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Bob Dylan & Neil Young, Kilkenny July 14th

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭RamonD3


    That text with the stage times really got me excited for this. The Neil Young and the Promise of the Real gig a few years back was one of the best I've been to, so was delighted to see that they will probably have a 2 hour time slot.

    Should probably give Bob Dylan a chance seeing as he has been the major influence on many of the musicians who I love, I just never got around to him!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭fafy


    RamonD3 wrote: »
    Should probably give Bob Dylan a chance seeing as he has been the major influence on many of the musicians who I love, I just never got around to him!

    Don’t get me wrong, Dylan is, or was at least, a total genius, and one of, if not, the, most influential songwriter of all time.

    The first time i saw him was a long time ago, (RDS indoor)and one my first handul of bigger gigs, (the ones you never forget) but it stuck with me, for all the wrong reasons, he kept on forgetting the words, and the band jammed on, as he went back to his guitarist to help remind him of the next words, this happened multiple times at that gig, and i have never seen repeated performance screwups like this before, or since, and i go to a good few gigs, this wasn’t a one off mistake, he was out of it - totally i assume, and it just isn’t on, to be incapable of performing, which was the case with that gig, he came onstage with a hoodie on, hood up fully, so you could barely see him, looked to me he didn’t want to be there at all, i’ve seen may acts drunk, but they were still capable of performing and delivering, so with Dylan, it went downhill from that first gig. I saw him twice later on, at festivals, and he wasn’t great. So while i still listen to him, i just have not the interest in seeing him live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭Comerman


    Impossible to get accommodation for this it seems. Me and my friends were thinking of camping somewhere near Kilkenny for the night as we want to go out in the town after the gig. Anyone know of anywhere that would be suitable? As close to the town as possible obviously. Cheers.
    http://kilkennycamping.com/ just off the ring road and I think Cillin Hill did camping for Springsteen too http://www.cillinhill.com/


  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭mrk75


    fafy wrote: »
    I don’t but you might get somewhere closer to the time, cancellations happen, alternatively, and there should be a good choice of transport options come up closer to the gig, i was lucky, as soon as i heard the rumoured dates i booked immediately.

    Yeah, that's the downside of gigs outside of Dublin - accommodation is limited in comparison and gets snapped up quickly.

    I booked a place in Abbeyleix yesterday that seems ok and about a 30 minute spin, so not so bad. Even better if there's any buses being run from the town so I can have a drink!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭Wooderson


    This thread is going to be spicy the morning after the show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,015 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    The inevitable disappointment when 78 year old Bob Dylan doesn't look or sound like this guy.

    giphy.gif

    Sounds great at the moment though. Band are so good.



  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭mrk75


    Wooderson wrote: »
    This thread is going to be spicy the morning after the show.

    It's a perfect storm really...

    "Neil played these endless guitar solos and the outros to his tunes went on longer than the actual songs."

    "He didn't play After the Goldrush."

    "He didn't address the crowd once."

    "Bob didn't come out from behind his keyboard."

    "Bob didn't address the audience either"

    We need a bingo card... :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭Wooderson


    mrk75 wrote: »
    It's a perfect storm really...

    "Neil played these endless guitar solos and the outros to his tunes went on longer than the actual songs."

    "He didn't play After the Goldrush."

    "He didn't address the crowd once."

    "Bob didn't come out from behind his keyboard."

    "Bob didn't address the audience either"

    We need a bingo card... :)


    Joe Duffy:


    "Cancel all staff holiday requests for that Monday."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    meh dont think ill bother going to this

    i like seeing legends in person but not really a fan of the stuff ive heard from Young and Bob in recent times

    id be only generally going for name only and the fact is near home


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,015 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    mrk75 wrote: »
    It's a perfect storm really...

    "Neil played these endless guitar solos and the outros to his tunes went on longer than the actual songs."

    "He didn't play After the Goldrush."

    "He didn't address the crowd once."

    "Bob didn't come out from behind his keyboard."

    "Bob didn't address the audience either"

    We need a bingo card... :)

    "Neil didn't play Old Man"

    "Neil is weird".

    "Bob is weird"

    "Bob didn't play the acoustic guitar"

    "At least Glen Hansard played the Once song".
    PTH2009 wrote: »
    meh dont think ill bother going to this

    i like seeing legends in person but not really a fan of the stuff ive heard from Young and Bob in recent times

    id be only generally going for name only and the fact is near home

    Recent setlist from Neil. Neil porn.

    Whats the most recent stuff from Bob you actually did like?

    78 year old Bob rocking into his 31st year of the Never Ending Tour.

    giphy.webp

    People will moan but this sounds lovely to my ears. From last month.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭Wooderson


    As long as youre in the pit for this its worth it. Being outside the pit standing or seated will be a khents picnic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,015 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Will there be a pit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭fafy


    The Nal wrote: »
    Will there be a pit?

    I was speaking about it earlier in the thread, i would assume so, (a la Bruce’s 2 gigs there in 2013)it makes perfect sense for safety alsoand has the advantage of keeping the event junkies back, and they can talk all they want back there. Sadly, these types of legacy events, attract huge volumes of these people.


  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Still on the fence about this gig

    From Waterford so it's not a long journey up the road but ticket price is too high (hoping too pick up a cheap on if I do go) and as cool as it would be too see these legends the songs I've heard are not the most exciting and could be a disaster live with people talking and shouting all the way through it

    I'm on the fence too. I would have somewhere to stay for the night though. I'm more interested in seeing Neil Young than Bob Dylan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,015 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    fafy wrote: »
    I was speaking about it earlier in the thread, i would assume so, (a la Bruce’s 2 gigs there in 2013)it makes perfect sense for safety alsoand has the advantage of keeping the event junkies back, and they can talk all they want back there. Sadly, these types of legacy events, attract huge volumes of these people.

    Yeah I've never really not been in a pit for one of those types of gigs for a long time for that reason. Paying all that money and not watching the bands and chatting about work and the like. Madness.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,498 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    The Nal wrote: »
    The inevitable disappointment when 78 year old Bob Dylan doesn't look or sound like this guy.
    Bring back Young Bob. :)

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭Vunderground


    I'm looking forward to the bit when people realise that the big screen that will be there for Neil's performance has disappeared and won't be coming back for Bob - who is also hiding behind his piano :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    From the sounds of it here, Bob could be playing in front of a half empty venue. Won't be a need for a big screen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭Zwillinge


    I asked Irish Rail about an after gig service to Dublin and they said there are currently no plans to put on services after the concert.


    That's me out me thinks


  • Registered Users Posts: 456 ✭✭Ben Done


    It'd be cool if Neil asked Glen out to do a tune, same as Bruce did in Kilkenny..

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IWHuWlYEuxM

    I'd love to hear them doing Cowgirl In The Sand, or acoustically, The Old Laughing Lady.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭s8n


    Ben Done wrote: »
    It'd be cool if Neil asked Glen out to do a tune, same as Bruce did in Kilkenny..

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IWHuWlYEuxM

    I'd love to hear them doing Cowgirl In The Sand, or acoustically, The Old Laughing Lady.

    I couldnt think of anything worse


  • Registered Users Posts: 456 ✭✭Ben Done


    s8n wrote: »
    I couldnt think of anything worse

    Ah I know he's Marmite, but I think he's got an amazing voice.
    Saw him collaborating with Eddie Vedder too, which was a brilliant show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    had a night out in Kilkenny the other night and loved it so going too this is back on for me now lol but dont want too pay full price for a ticket

    Anyone wanting too shift a ticket for €50-€80 please send me a PM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,207 ✭✭✭maximoose


    Zwillinge wrote: »
    I asked Irish Rail about an after gig service to Dublin and they said there are currently no plans to put on services after the concert.


    That's me out me thinks

    Anyone seen bus services on back to Dublin?


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    maximoose wrote: »
    Anyone seen bus services on back to Dublin?

    Nothing man and I have searched high up and low down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,386 ✭✭✭Wrongway1985


    The Nal wrote: »

    Recent setlist from Neil. Neil porn

    That actually is not the version going to Kilkenny though. Here ya go ;)

    https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/neil-young-promise-of-the-real/2019/matthew-knight-arena-eugene-or-390050f.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Got a standing ticket for €70 off toutless

    Should be a good day out anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,331 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    maximoose wrote: »
    Anyone seen bus services on back to Dublin?

    What times it over, there's an airport one leaves at 9.45 back to Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭morebarn2


    maximoose wrote: »
    Anyone seen bus services on back to Dublin?

    What times it over, there's an airport one leaves at 9.45 back to Dublin.


    Try Rapid Express bus service.
    Also Dublin Coach.

    They run regular services to Dublin from Waterford, calling at Kilkenny.

    Although I think there might not be a service at the time the gig ends. There is a gap at night until the early morning hours, if I recall rightly there is a bus sometime around 2am. Might be worth checking anyway.


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    morebarn2 wrote: »
    Try Rapid Express bus service.
    Also Dublin Coach.

    They run regular services to Dublin from Waterford, calling at Kilkenny.

    Although I think there might not be a service at the time the gig ends. There is a gap at night until the early morning hours, if I recall rightly there is a bus sometime around 2am. Might be worth checking anyway.

    Checked there on those two services so the departure times from Kilkenny are 10 pm or stupid o clock in the AM so not worth it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15 Willoflood


    Anybody have any information on buses/trains to Dublin after the concert ?

    Or even portlaoise or new Ross if it comes to it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭fafy


    There seems to be a lot of people who are having transport issues- to and from Dublin. Maybe car pooling might be an option for some, or, just don’t drink, and drive down and back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 Willoflood


    I emailed Irish rail a few weeks ago and they said they would put on special trains if there was sufficient demand.

    So maybe people with issues getting back to Dublin should send them a mail


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 kat86d


    This is literally driving me mental, I've contacted every bloody bus service that travels to Kilkenny from Dublin and all of them have said it depends on availability, it's like a bloody conspiracy, do they want every one from Dublin to walk home including all those who will fly into Dublin airport. I think if people request a service from jjkavanagh that could be the best bet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    kat86d wrote: »
    This is literally driving me mental, I've contacted every bloody bus service that travels to Kilkenny from Dublin and all of them have said it depends on availability, it's like a bloody conspiracy, do they want every one from Dublin to walk home including all those who will fly into Dublin airport. I think if people request a service from jjkavanagh that could be the best bet.

    Dublin coach- Last bus from Kilkenny ormonde road- Dublin city is 21.40 on the 14th July

    Handy for me is the last Kilkenny- Waterford Dublin coach bus is 23.45 (possibly later with concert traffic) Not paying €30 for travelmaster


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 kat86d


    Well Dublin Coach have said they won't be running later bises ��bob Dylan starts at 9 so you would miss half his set if you left early. The whole thing is a joke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,674 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Hmmm...
    Tempted now...

    Especially with Dylan on last.

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What's the story with tickets- is it sold out or do you think there will be cheap standing tickets going a begging? As it get's closer might consider going if the price is right.

    Also there are rows mentioned like row m l k and r that aren't on the map- is this a flat seating area close to the stage on the pitch level?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    What's the story with tickets- is it sold out or do you think there will be cheap standing tickets going a begging? As it get's closer might consider going if the price is right.

    Also there are rows mentioned like row m l k and r that aren't on the map- is this a flat seating area close to the stage on the pitch level?

    Still a few left on Ticketmaster but Keep on eye on Toutless and join Facebook event pages for the gig. I picked up a standing ticket off toutless for €70. Should be a few tickets showing up for sale there.

    No flat seating on the pitch, all standing


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  • Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭mac_daddy


    What do you reckon the odds are of being allowed to bring in a folder out chair. Wifey needs a hip op in August and unable to stand for long periods.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭fafy


    mac_daddy wrote: »
    What do you reckon the odds are of being allowed to bring in a folder out chair. Wifey needs a hip op in August and unable to stand for long periods.

    I’d day Zero,in the GA area, what you need is a seated ticket. But, you could enquire with TM, as there is a disability section


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭fafy


    RIP Elliot Roberts, Neil Youngs manager for more than 40 years, one of those music industry giants, and a very clever guy.

    Very insighful interview on how the recorded music industry works, including the digital music f**kup

    https://youtu.be/UKgaIYd-fk4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    So off the Essential Bob Dylan album i have he plays 6 songs from it out of a 20 song set :(:(

    Going to be an odd evening for all us event junkies and then we have Neil Young doing 10 min guitar jams

    look ill make the most of it and be nice to see these legends in person


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Cazale


    PTH2009 wrote:
    So off the Essential Bob Dylan album i have he plays 6 songs from it out of a 20 song set

    Dylan has never pandered to the audience. You might not even recognise those six songs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Cazale wrote: »
    Dylan has never pandered to the audience. You might not even recognise those six songs.

    Yeah after watching some clips from this year on YouTube I wont lol

    Long days are Mr Tambourine man and Hurricane


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,155 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Cazale wrote:
    Dylan has never pandered to the audience. You might not even recognise those six songs.


    I've seen him many times since Slane 1984. There are times he'd be half way through a song when I realise what it is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Peter File


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    So off the Essential Bob Dylan album i have he plays 6 songs from it out of a 20 song set :(:(

    Going to be an odd evening for all us event junkies and then we have Neil Young doing 10 min guitar jams

    look ill make the most of it and be nice to see these legends in person
    Neil Young will "play the hits". Dylan will keep the venue bars busy during his set!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,155 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Anyone any idea on the best place to park for this gig?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 acer4220


    having worked all other previous nowlan park concerts i would say provided you say it to one of the lads on entry you will be ok


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 971 ✭✭✭phunkadelic


    Peter File wrote: »
    Neil Young will "play the hits". Dylan will keep the venue bars busy during his set!!
    Yeah Neil does greatest hits with that band (promise of Real). It's only with Crazy Hoss that he does the extended jams


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