IE's 071 Class.

corktina · 06-02-2012 8:18pm

I saw one of them blue ones in Ballina myself a few years back. Nearly fell out my truck:D

06-02-2012 8:21pm

corktina wrote: »

I saw one of them blue ones in Ballina myself a few years back. Nearly fell out my truck:D

First time I saw one was on a Cork-Tralee train around 2005 or so. I was in Mallow, having gotten off the Dublin train. Was sitting in the Cravens and didn't see the loco up front but then caught 112 running round the train. At the time I wasn't particularly knowledgeable about the railways and had no idea what was going on!

Niles · 06-02-2012 8:43pm

Karsini wrote: »

First time I saw one was on a Cork-Tralee train around 2005 or so. I was in Mallow, having gotten off the Dublin train. Was sitting in the Cravens and didn't see the loco up front but then caught 112 running round the train. At the time I wasn't particularly knowledgeable about the railways and had no idea what was going on!

I seem to remember her being on loan for a few years in the mid-2000s. I have a photo somewhere of her on a Galway train at Kildare taken in June 2006. There was a time when she was regularly on the Tara Mines trains, I was on a trip to Dublin so decided to head out on a rambler and see if I could get pics. Waited at Howth Junction for ages and no sign of the train, a northbound DART was due and the southbound signal red so I decided to chance heading on to Malahide and try get it there. About a minute after the DART left Howth Junction what flies by only a blue streak... :mad:

L1011 · 06-02-2012 9:20pm

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Nope, sorry. I know the company undertook some consultancy work and they almost landed a big contract for the Chunnel, that's all I know of.

Did they not also provide a rather massive amount of consultancy for the Manchester tram system, despite not actually having any tram systems in Ireland at the time?

Oscar Bravo · 06-02-2012 11:21pm

112 was indeed on loan a few years back,i recall it on the Ballina branch cravens set several times before being swichted onto timbers/liners in the yard.The 071 loco on the branch was often changed with one on the liner so it could head back to Inchicore(swapped in Kildare).When they wanted to swap a Craven,they use to send one down on the 1615 F.O(attached to end of a a MK2 rake) and send the other one back on the 1530 on a Sunday.(locked off from pax of course).

06-02-2012 11:28pm

IE did some pretty heavy refurbishment on her while on loan - on the outside you may have noticed that 112 has the newer style marker lights like the 071s while 111 and 113 still have the original marker lights.

Also, the engines on the 111s are still original spec 645E3 while the 071s were upgraded to 645E3C spec. 076 is also on an E3 or E3B (can't remember for sure). Its original engine failed badly and it's now using an engine taken from a scrapped Swedish loco. You can hear the difference, I can only describe it as if the 111s and 076 seem to whistle more while the other 071s sound more raspy.

Oscar Bravo · 06-02-2012 11:40pm

I remember that with 076,piston flew out through the side panal.The 111s do whistle more,definately!

dowlingm · 07-02-2012 12:36am

Well if the E3s get clapped out could always ask MotivePower/GE for some 12-645F3Bs with another 550hp

07-02-2012 1:02am

A couple of clips to show off sounds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAel6M1HX3U

lord lucan · 07-02-2012 1:16am

082's horn sounds more like a parp than the throaty horn we're more used too!

Nice sound out of 113 and great clag to boot.:)

07-02-2012 1:20am

lord lucan wrote: »

082's horn sounds more like a parp than the throaty horn we're more used too!

Yep, she didn't have her unique turbo at this time either, that was after the overhaul and repaint. I work near Clontarf Road DART station and can hear the trains from where I work. I always know when 082 is on a Tara.

eejoynt · 07-02-2012 6:02pm

"Probably mentioned here before but heres the current status of the Class.
087-Withdrawn,Parts used for remainder of class,ready for scrap."
Boards.ie

087 pictured in Inchicore showing the loco undergoing as a full body-shell overhaul
current Today's Railways

as they would say in private Eye
shurley shome mishtake

Mayo checker · 07-02-2012 7:51pm

Jehuty42 wrote: »

Let me guess, you support the WRC, right?

not interested in WRC WORLD RALLY CHAMPIONSHIPS atall

i dont think 087 will be back she is spare parts only i reckon

any sightings of 084 ?

by the way drivers of the 071s are complainin about leaky cabs ,id say an umbrella would be required for each trip.:):)

Itssoeasy · 07-02-2012 9:41pm

Listen to the music.

lord lucan · 07-02-2012 10:07pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Listen to the music.

Sweet,sweet music.:)

cml387 · 07-02-2012 10:27pm

The lovely sound of the 081.

I remember I used to go into Limerick station on Sunday evenings when a student 100000 years ago just to hear it.

Being not well up,what causes that big engine note rise as it comes to a halt?

Oscar Bravo · 07-02-2012 10:34pm

080's horn is almost two tone at one end at the moment.081 is a great goer!! Edit-Mayo Checker,yes some of the cabs are leaky around the window seals but no need for umbrella's just yet!!

07-02-2012 10:50pm

cml387 wrote: »

The lovely sound of the 081.

I remember I used to go into Limerick station on Sunday evenings when a student 100000 years ago just to hear it.

Being not well up,what causes that big engine note rise as it comes to a halt?

I might be wrong but I think the engine will automatically rev up to drive the air compressors, otherwise the brakes would run out of air and fail.

Rud · 08-02-2012 1:35am

082 is easily my favourite of the 071s and i might assume it is the favourite for others too.Just that sound............gorgeous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRlugZFceyA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqYGAzlb23M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOWv-1XzNJo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qV96Sxm3mg

Mayo checker · 08-02-2012 8:19pm

082 sounds no different than the rest of the 071s its all imagination. .all the same ..

Umbrellas on stand by if them CAB leaks get worse oscar:)

lord lucan · 08-02-2012 8:33pm

Mayo checker wrote: »

082 sounds no different than the rest of the 071s its all imagination. .all the same ..

She definitely has a different tone,my vocabulary will struggle to describe it but it's very noticeable in the videos above.

Hungerford · 08-02-2012 8:35pm

eejoynt wrote: »

087 pictured in Inchicore showing the loco undergoing as a full body-shell overhaul

I am wondering whether it is actually their test bed for trying to resolve the leaky cab problems? It certainly doesn't looked dumped from the picture - it's in a shed.

Mayo checker · 08-02-2012 9:50pm

Hungerford wrote: »

I am wondering whether it is actually their test bed for trying to resolve the leaky cab problems? It certainly doesn't looked dumped from the picture - it's in a shed.

POOR 216 must not be that important anymore so in that case

Rud · 08-02-2012 10:19pm

Mayo checker wrote: »

082 sounds no different than the rest of the 071s its all imagination. .all the same ..

082 sounds different without a doubt.There is no imagination or illusion about it

Oscar Bravo · 08-02-2012 10:45pm

082 certainly does sound different-www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU7wb546OSs. I noted 073 hauling the Ballina-Waterford timber this evening,nice to see "071 Class Hellfire" wrote on the dirt on it!

Hungerford · 08-02-2012 11:00pm

Mayo checker wrote: »

POOR 216 must not be that important anymore so in that case

In fairness, CIE have a long and distinguished history of leaving stuff to rot outside. Generally, if something is in a shed, it means that they may want to use it again.

Mayo checker · 09-02-2012 6:55pm

Oscar Bravo wrote: »

082 certainly does sound different-www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU7wb546OSs.
an 071 sounds the exact same as the next 1 when you hear them from distance you know for sure that its not a 201 before you see it that roarin sound can be heard for miles 082 is no different

09-02-2012 6:58pm

Mayo checker wrote: »

an 071 sounds the exact same as the next 1 when you hear them from distance you know for sure that its not a 201 before you see it that roarin sound can be heard for miles 082 is no different

Have you heard 082 in notch 8?

101sean · 09-02-2012 8:07pm

088 passed Milltown Bridge near Thurles with one wagon in tow on the up line this afternoon, must remember to take the camera when I walk the dog :rolleyes:

Captain Chaos · 09-02-2012 8:41pm

Mayo checker wrote: »

Oscar Bravo wrote: »

082 certainly does sound different-www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU7wb546OSs.
an 071 sounds the exact same as the next 1 when you hear them from distance you know for sure that its not a 201 before you see it that roarin sound can be heard for miles 082 is no different

082 is a beast ever since it's overhaul. You can hear the thing for miles off before it gets near you more so than another 071. 082 has a very different to any other 071 or 201. The 071s have a distant rumble while 082 has a roaring throaty sound from way off. It sounds like it's about to tear it's self apart when I hear late at night on the taras.

Cookie_Monster · 09-02-2012 11:07pm

I must be the only person here who doesn't actually like this class :P

To me they just like a bulked out 141 on steroids :pac:

Rud · 09-02-2012 11:31pm

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Mayo checker wrote: »

082 is a beast ever since it's overhaul. You can hear the thing for miles off before it gets near you more so than another 071. 082 has a very different to any other 071 or 201. The 071s have a distant rumble while 082 has a roaring throaty sound from way off. It sounds like it's about to tear it's self apart when I hear late at night on the taras.

Lovely description of the sound of 082,a throaty roar.There is a unique sound to it compared to the other 071s which is clear as day especially in notch 8

corktina · 10-02-2012 10:13am

QUOTE=Cookie_Monster;77006880]I must be the only person here who doesn't actually like this class :P

To me they just like a bulked out 141 on steroids :pac:[/QUOT

banned!

lord lucan · 10-02-2012 10:38am

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

I must be the only person here who doesn't actually like this class :P

To me they just like a bulked out 141 on steroids :pac:

Mayo checker · 10-02-2012 4:35pm

Karsini wrote: »

Have you heard 082 in notch 8?

yes and it sounds the same as the rest of the others i have heard .

take note
082 is just an ordinary member of the 071 class

10-02-2012 7:33pm

Mayo checker wrote: »

yes and it sounds the same as the rest of the others i have heard .

take note
082 is just an ordinary member of the 071 class

087:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEdwbSp9ANg

082:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2fgD4WwVFE

Honestly, you can't say that these sound the same.

Mayo checker · 14-02-2012 10:14pm

anybody on IRN see the brill recent overhead view of inch

it is sad to see so many locos just left there to rot

With the mk3 coaches that can also be seen ......

IRN would want to get their act together and get more freight contracts on board and get them locos moving again..

Jehuty42 · 14-02-2012 10:26pm

Mayo checker wrote: »

IRN would want to get their act together and get more freight contracts on board and get them locos moving again..

Freight from where to where for whom? We're not exactly Germany or the UK, we have very little heavy industry or long distances to cover.

BTW here's the link to those photos http://irnirishrailwaynews.yuku.com/topic/2514/Re-Inchicore-Works-from-above?page=-1#.TzrRprFmJbk. Anyone know what's the story with the 5-car 22000 in Inchicore?

dowlingm · 14-02-2012 10:48pm

there was murmurings of reopening Sligo to timber I think? With the increase in passenger services on both that line and Kildare-Waterford it would be challenging to find timetable slots for said service though...

Judgement Day · 14-02-2012 11:16pm

East Wall looks a prime candidate for an arson attack that will take care of the MkIIIs - why on earth have they still got them lying around the place?

Mayo checker · 14-02-2012 11:28pm

Jehuty42 wrote: »

Freight from where to where for whom? We're not exactly Germany or the UK, we have very little heavy industry or long distances to cover.

WELL do u ever wonder where these lorries that you see clogging up our roads every day are going ?????? While the rails around the country have nothing on them atall through the night and most of the day there be plenty of free slots for freight to operate on and take some lorries off the road.

Jehuty42 · 14-02-2012 11:51pm

Mayo checker wrote: »

WELL do u ever wonder where these lorries that you see clogging up our roads every day are going ??????

To places that don't have railway lines to them.

Jehuty42 · 14-02-2012 11:56pm

Judgement Day wrote: »

East Wall looks a prime candidate for an arson attack that will take care of the MkIIIs - why on earth have they still got them lying around the place?

True, I guess that could happen anywhere really where you keep them all together. At least here they're close enough to Alexendra Road you can push them out of the country quickly before they fall apart

I'm kind of surprised no UK company like Angel Trains hasn't picked them up- I guess regauging them and bringing them up to UK MK3 standards was too expensive. I think at this stage they are well and truly done for after so long in the elements.

Cookie_Monster · 15-02-2012 12:07am

Jehuty42 wrote: »

Freight from where to where for whom? We're not exactly Germany or the UK, we have very little heavy industry or long distances to cover.

BTW here's the link to those photos http://irnirishrailwaynews.yuku.com/topic/2514/Re-Inchicore-Works-from-above?page=-1#.TzrRprFmJbk. Anyone know what's the story with the 5-car 22000 in Inchicore?

the first pic there is great. at least 4 141s in there in 142 in black and tan.

The 5 car 22k, maybe one car is in a shop with issues, being normally a 6 piece set?

15-02-2012 12:14am

The 5-piece ICR is 22033, the missing coach caught fire in Athenry last year. Not sure what state it's in.

dowlingm · 15-02-2012 12:18am

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

the first pic there is great. at least 4 141s in there in 142 in black and tan.

The 5 car 22k, maybe one car is in a shop with issues, being normally a 6 piece set?

Probably set 22033
http://irnirishrailwaynews.yuku.com/reply/52857/22000-Class-watch#reply-52857

One month in Inchicore and no sign of its sixth carriage being re-added? Just one more bungle in the saga of the 22Ks it seems.

15-02-2012 12:25am

I'd assume that the 201 behind the running shed near the traverser is 216? Doesn't look the best even from that height.

Mayo checker · 15-02-2012 12:30am

Jehuty42 wrote: »

To places that don't have railway lines to them.

ALL THE LORRIES MUST END UP IN TO DONEGAL SO:):)

Cookie_Monster · 15-02-2012 2:12am

Mayo checker wrote: »

ALL THE LORRIES MUST END UP IN TO DONEGAL SO:):)

Name a factory that has a direct rail connection these days, because that's the only way it's going to be viable to move stuff by rail for them. Other wise it's load truck, drive truck to railhead, wait to offload container, container sits in yard, loaded to train, more waiting, railhead A to railhead B, more waiting to offload, re load to truck, drive truck to actual destination.

The cost and time cost of all the moving and waiting far outweighs the cheaper cost of rail freight due to the short distance involved in Ireland.

foggy_lad · 15-02-2012 4:35am

Saw a locomotive passing manulla junction last night going to Ballina with its load of containers, the number on it was 071 but it was not an 071. It looked like a 201? It was gone before I could get any pictures. Does that make any sense from someone who knows very little about locomotive classes or sizes?

IE's 071 Class.

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