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FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTICE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

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  • #2
    legalease2172
    Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭legalease2172


    Activity really drops off here innit!


  • #3
    Gunslinger92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Gunslinger92


    legalease2172 wrote: »
    Activity really drops off here innit!

    Presumably because we all want to forget about the horrors of them :pac: I'm only fully recovered in the past few days like

    However, I do have a question for ye. This was my first sitting and I understand that when the results come out, you log onto the law society website with your ID number and a password? I have the ID number, but no password? Do they send you a letter with it or something?


  • #4
    Rebelgirl87
    Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭Rebelgirl87


    Gunslinger92 wrote: »
    Presumably because we all want to forget about the horrors of them :pac: I'm only fully recovered in the past few days like

    However, I do have a question for ye. This was my first sitting and I understand that when the results come out, you log onto the law society website with your ID number and a password? I have the ID number, but no password? Do they send you a letter with it or something?

    Yes they send you out a letter saying your password is the word <<Mod deletion>> and when you log in with it you can change it to whatever password you want.

    Mod
    Gotta be careful with passwords


  • #5
    kevin125
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭kevin125


    Mod
    Sorry trading of manuals not allowed in this forum
    See OP at top of forum


  • #6
    Dr Ice
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Dr Ice


    Hi,

    New to law and the FE1 Exams, I intend to give them a crack in April. Regarding exam technique, could someone recommend a text that provides instruction on how to answer exam questions, ILAC/IRAC for problem questions for example? An introductory first year law book might be the thing, any ideas?

    Thanks.


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  • #7
    Yoop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Yoop


    Dr Ice wrote: »
    Hi,

    New to law and the FE1 Exams, I intend to give them a crack in April. Regarding exam technique, could someone recommend a text that provides instruction on how to answer exam questions, ILAC/IRAC for problem questions for example? An introductory first year law book might be the thing, any ideas?

    Thanks.

    I think I remember seeing 'How To Write Law Essays & Exams' by S.I. Strong in my college library. I'm not entirely sure how good it is but it should be a useful introduction. I would also recommend doing a quick Google search; there are a lot of useful websites which provide examples of how you would approach a question using ILAC.

    Best of luck :)


  • #8
    nuac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    About 40 years ago a Prof Glanville Williams wrote a good book on Legal Study.

    As far as i remember it had a section on exam technique.

    Gave my copies aeons ago to apprentices - but it is worth reading if available


  • #9
    Hunchback
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭Hunchback


    nuac wrote: »
    About 40 years ago a Prof Glanville Williams wrote a good book on Legal Study.

    As far as i remember it had a section on exam technique.

    Gave my copies aeons ago to an apprentices - but it is worth reading if available

    It is as good a pocket book as you can get. Would recommend.


  • #10
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,676 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    nuac wrote: »
    About 40 years ago a Prof Glanville Williams wrote a good book on Legal Study.
    Learning the Law. Still in print after more than 70 years.


  • #11
    legalease2172
    Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭legalease2172


    Anyone have any idea when results come out? Annoying the way it takes so long :/


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  • #12
    jdbarry
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭jdbarry


    legalease2172 wrote: »
    Anyone have any idea when results come out? Annoying the way it takes so long :/

    It's usually 6 weeks after the last exam, so it should be Friday the 25th of November.

    Tis a long wait alright!


  • #13
    legalease2172
    Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭legalease2172


    jdbarry wrote: »
    It's usually 6 weeks after the last exam, so it should be Friday the 25th of November.

    Tis a long wait alright!

    Would just be nice to say that I've passed 8 exams in my interview!


  • #14
    Gunslinger92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Gunslinger92


    I know it's annoying waiting for results but I think 6 weeks is a quick enough turnaround given that over 1,000 people sit them? :pac:

    Also the thought of being in work and having people ask how I got on is horrific, but I am not going to be able to wait til I get home to check them :o


  • #15
    Aoife2012
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭Aoife2012


    Hi, could someone please tell me what dates the spring sittings are? (or usually are if they haven't been scheduled yet) Thanks.


  • #16
    Leraf
    Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭Leraf


    Aoife2012 wrote: »
    Hi, could someone please tell me what dates the spring sittings are? (or usually are if they haven't been scheduled yet) Thanks.

    I think the dates are released either with the results of this sitting or early afterwards so the timetable should be available on or after the 25th November hopefully. I think they are usually end of March beginning of April each year.


  • #17
    Leraf
    Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭Leraf


    When does everyone intend to start studying for the spring sitting? Is it scarily early to do so now or madness not to be started already?!?


  • #18
    Yoop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Yoop


    Leraf wrote: »
    When does everyone intend to start studying for the spring sitting? Is it scarily early to do so now or madness not to be started already?!?

    I did five in March this year and I started studying in the first week of December - it would have been later but I was working full time and going on holidays after Christmas. I would imagine it depends on how many you have to do and whether or not there are any repeats but personally, unless you're going to be sitting 6-8 in the spring, I'd say you could wait until the results and timetable are out and structure your studying from there. Of course, it's also no harm getting some reading/note-making out of the way early - I wouldn't start any serious studying at this point though :)


  • #19
    fearmhor18
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭fearmhor18


    Leraf wrote: »
    When does everyone intend to start studying for the spring sitting? Is it scarily early to do so now or madness not to be started already?!?

    I have no background in law so I've started now in preparation to sit four in April. I say the sooner the better, no excuses in April :)


  • #20
    AM1990
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭AM1990


    Hi Everyone

    I've been offered a training contract in Dublin and so obviously will need to pass these FE1s...they're an entirely new concept to me as I graduated from Queens so (a) my degree was mainly English and Northern Irish law and (b) we don't have FE1s.

    It's really frustrating in a way as the firm is one of the so called Big 6 but I have these annoying and potentially disastrous exams to navigate through now which stand between me and my career ambitions. But anyway, that's how it is, no point crying about it.

    I guess my question is, is there anyone out there from a UK law background who has sat these? If so, is it mainly a lot of crossover from the UK or are there a lot of differences ?


  • #21
    collao
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭collao


    Can anyone who has done the exam/knows the FE1s guide me as to what topics should be covered?

    Even a broad range would be helpful because as we all know, it is a huge course!

    Thanks


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  • #22
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    collao wrote: »
    Can anyone who has done the exam/knows the FE1s guide me as to what topics should be covered?

    Even a broad range would be helpful because as we all know, it is a huge course!

    Thanks


    Full curriculum on law society website in fe1 section (as far as I know! Used to be)


  • #23
    Leraf
    Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭Leraf


    fearmhor18 wrote: »
    I have no background in law so I've started now in preparation to sit four in April. I say the sooner the better, no excuses in April :)

    I agree, I am starting now also. The prep courses all start this week also so I take that as sign that I should start now


  • #24
    Gunslinger92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Gunslinger92


    Feck the two of ye :pac: making me feel bad!!

    I'm waiting to see if I need to sit contract again before starting :p


  • #25
    Yoop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Yoop


    collao wrote: »
    Can anyone who has done the exam/knows the FE1s guide me as to what topics should be covered?

    Even a broad range would be helpful because as we all know, it is a huge course!

    Thanks

    For EU I would definitely recommend covering as much as you can and make sure you have enough detail for both essay and problem questions. Also make sure you cover your topics thoroughly as a question may draw on more than one aspect of a particular chapter. There really is no way around it; if you're leaving out a chapter or two you have to know all the rest - because it's so massive there's plenty to choose from and it doesn't necessarily have to be the most common or relevant topics.


  • #26
    collao
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭collao


    Thanks a lot. I have a LL.M in European law so I am hoping that will help but as this is the first time I am doing FE1s I am a little wary. Thanks again, have a nice weekend.


  • #27
    collao
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭collao


    Thank you! The syllabus is quite large too, I was hoping someone could tell me a shortcut ;)


  • #28
    fearmhor18
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭fearmhor18


    Gunslinger92 wrote: »
    Feck the two of ye :pac: making me feel bad!!

    I'm waiting to see if I need to sit contract again before starting :p

    Ah sure you'll probably be grand so. This will be my first attempt and studying with a full time job so I don't know how I'll fair. The manuals I got from Griffith look quite intimidating.


  • #29
    Leraf
    Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭Leraf


    fearmhor18 wrote: »
    Ah sure you'll probably be grand so. This will be my first attempt and studying with a full time job so I don't know how I'll fair. The manuals I got from Griffith look quite intimidating.

    The manuals should look a lot clearer once you go through the lectures. If you need any help or have any questions feel free to pm me, i know how daunting it all is and would be happy to help if i can. Depending on the results next week (or whenever) I may be doing all 8 in March and I also work full time so I get the stress and heartbreak of these exams!


  • #30
    Gunslinger92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Gunslinger92


    fearmhor18 wrote: »
    Ah sure you'll probably be grand so. This will be my first attempt and studying with a full time job so I don't know how I'll fair. The manuals I got from Griffith look quite intimidating.

    Ah yeah I was only messing anyway :) in your situation you're certainly wise to be having a look now!

    Stick around this thread anyway, we are a great bunch of lads (and ladies) and I found it great last time anyway as a first timer :)


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  • #31
    Leraf
    Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭Leraf


    Does anyone have an equity grid to swap? I have one but just want to do a comparison to make sure it covers as much as possible. TIA


  • #32
    ElmK2016
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭ElmK2016


    I have a grid but only up until Spring 15?

    I am also looking for a kind soul to give me an up to date grid on any of the following - Tort, Consti, Criminal, Eu.


  • #33
    Leraf
    Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭Leraf


    ElmK2016 wrote: »
    I have a grid but only up until Spring 15?

    I am also looking for a kind soul to give me an up to date grid on any of the following - Tort, Consti, Criminal, Eu.
    .

    If you send your email in pm, I can send up to date grid for Tort and EU and a pretty up to date grid for Constitutional and Criminal and if you wouldn't mind sending your Equity Grid in return, I would appreciate it :)


  • #34
    dinemo6
    Registered Users Posts: 118 ✭✭dinemo6


    Haven't been around the FE1 scene for a while..... have 1 left to do - Company!

    Which prep courses are people finding the best? I see there's a new school now, LawSchool.ie
    Tied between signing up with them and City as they both offer free repeats. Does Independent offer free repeats?

    Also, does anyone know the dates for the Spring sitting yet?? I can't see them online.

    Mod
    Prefer not to have discussions on this forum of the merits or otherwise of the various law schools, tutors etc.

    Good luck to all awaiting results


  • #35
    Gunslinger92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Gunslinger92


    Dates for next sitting won't be out until the results are - speaking of, has anyone who did their first sitting last time heard anything? Would've thought there'd be word by now?


  • #36
    smeal
    Registered Users Posts: 623 ✭✭✭smeal


    Gunslinger92 wrote: »
    Dates for next sitting won't be out until the results are - speaking of, has anyone who did their first sitting last time heard anything? Would've thought there'd be word by now?

    They usually don't email you until the Monday/Tuesday of results week so should hear something Monday/Tuesday.. I think there was one sitting where they emailed the Friday before :)


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  • #37
    Dancing-Ferret
    Registered Users Posts: 12 ✭Dancing-Ferret


    Gunslinger92 wrote: »
    Dates for next sitting won't be out until the results are - speaking of, has anyone who did their first sitting last time heard anything? Would've thought there'd be word by now?

    I emailed the Law School yesterday to see, they said results would be out 25th November (ie next Friday).


  • #38
    legalease2172
    Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭legalease2172


    Dancing-Ferret wrote: »
    I emailed the Law School yesterday to see, they said results would be out 25th November (ie next Friday).

    ** Gulp!!!


  • #39
    XxMCRxBabyxX
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    Emails in confirming that results are out on Fri. I feel sick just reading it.


  • #40
    Leraf
    Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭Leraf


    Got my email too, says the results letter has been posted


  • #41
    Redo91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭Redo91


    Leraf wrote: »
    Got my email too, says the results letter has been posted

    Could we not potentially get them before Friday then?


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  • #42
    XxMCRxBabyxX
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    Redo91 wrote: »
    Could we not potentially get them before Friday then?

    My email says: "Results will be posted to candidates on the same date."


  • #43
    Redo91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭Redo91


    XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »
    My email says: "Results will be posted to candidates on the same date."

    Ya just read mine and its says the same. I thought the post I was responding to suggested that they've been posted already.


  • #44
    claiomh solais
    Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭claiomh solais


    Is the username just the numbers of your ID? Mine isn't working. I'll have to email them tomorrow


  • #45
    Leraf
    Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭Leraf


    Redo91 wrote: »
    Ya just read mine and its says the same. I thought the post I was responding to suggested that they've been posted already.


    Sorry !! I kinda panicked when I read the email and signed in! :) my mistake, letters go out Friday also.


  • #46
    Leraf
    Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭Leraf


    claiomh solais wrote: »
    Is the username just the numbers of your ID? Mine isn't working. I'll have to email them tomorrow

    Yes the numbers from your ID, sign in as existing user.


  • #47
    Leraf
    Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭Leraf


    Can I ask a possibly silly question?!

    When I sign into the LS site results page it says ;

    Your results for the March 2016 FE-1 re-checks are as follows:









    There appears to be no results for you
    • Your results letter has been posted to you.
    I didnt do exams in March 2016, I only did the recent ones. Is everyone else seeing the same message or is it an error? I am just wondering if everyone gets the message but then it updates on Friday when the actual results come out or should I email them now about it?


  • #48
    XxMCRxBabyxX
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    Same comes up for me and I didn't do the March sitting either


  • #49
    legallywrecked
    Registered Users Posts: 43 ✭legallywrecked


    claiomh solais wrote: »
    Is the username just the numbers of your ID? Mine isn't working. I'll have to email them tomorrow

    I'm having the same issue! Did my first sitting in October and it's not recognising my ID Number, have emailed them too. Did you get anything back from them?


  • #50
    louser1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37 ✭louser1


    Hello. It's been a while since I was here, i sat my last ones in March 2015 and passed :) few personal things going on (having a baby) so only getting back to them now. I'm only going to register for 2 this time EU and Tort. I'm doing EU in city and wondered if anyone had advice re Tort? Would I be able to do it alone? Lecturers kind of keep you on track? Thanks


  • #51
    claiomh solais
    Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭claiomh solais


    legallywrecked wrote: »
    I'm having the same issue! Did my first sitting in October and it's not recognising my ID Number, have emailed them too. Did you get anything back from them?

    I will let you know once I hear back from them


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