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Disabled woman mocked by comedian - responds with video

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Macavity.


    His execution of the jokes was pretty lacklustre. The actual concept was also poor as the vast majority of people will have no idea who she is, taking away from the shock value.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Got to do with what? Her? It's her sister. If horrible things happen to someone you really love, it affects you and it can be really upsetting for you. She's talking about horrible things have happened in her life and I'd say the kidnapping and rape of a sibling would be fairly high up on anyone's list. Strange that even needs explaining tbh.

    WTF has that got to do with this ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    WTF has that got to do with this ?



    Watch and LISTEN to the video.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Watch and LISTEN to the video.

    No, Did the first comedian comment on the sister ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks


    I don't think Ari Shaffir is funny or that his skit in the OP is anything comical either. But I had to re-quote this
    "Did fatty eat her own arm? You'd think with all that thick skin she could take a joke."
    :D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    No, Did the first comedian comment on the sister ?


    I think you already know the answer to that question, chum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Got to do with what? Her? It's her sister. If horrible things happen to someone you really love, it affects you and it can be really upsetting for you. She's talking about horrible things have happened in her life and I'd say the kidnapping and rape of a sibling would be fairly high up on anyone's list. Strange that even needs explaining tbh.

    It seemed to me, from watching and listening to the video, that she was trying to garner a lil extra sympathy by mentioning her sister (which has zero relevance to her current grievance) which I personally found distasteful and maybe even disgusting ......... to use what happened to her sister in this video in this way is quite shocking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    I think you already know the answer to that question, chum.

    So No, It has absolutely nothing to do with the other comedian. What a load of tripe introduction, All done to establish a level of sympathy. And don't get me started on the over the top crying.

    I want those 3:40 odd seconds of my life back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    I don't know who either of these so called comedians are, as far as I can see this Ari Shaffir fella is after ruining his career by randomly picking on a complete stranger who had a ****ed up life, for no reason I can see and the girl completely missed an opportunity to become an internet made famous comedian by doing a whingebag routine online.

    If she had any cop on she would have released a video with a carefully thought out roast routine that would endear people to her and say "fair play, she had a ****ed up life, that dude attacked her and she ****ing blew him out of the water - here's my money, I'll go see her now!"

    Instead we have an asshole noone likes and a whingebag that noone likes and noone is going to go see either of them and Jimmy Carr is going to make a quip about them and reap the benefits!

    Or I could be wrong........who knows. People have short memories.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    It seemed to me, from watching and listening to the video, that she was trying to garner a lil extra sympathy by mentioning her sister (which has zero relevance to her current grievance) which I personally found distasteful and maybe even disgusting ......... to use what happened to her sister in this video in this way is quite shocking.


    Well that's your perspective and perhaps that might be the case but I don't know this woman from adam, so I don't know if she's the kind of person to do this. You could also see it as a woman who's had a very rough time in her life explaining this to people and to this gob****e as a way of saying, "I've had a really rough time in my life and I don't need this bullying ****" - she sounds very vulnerable and very human. Perhaps it was a little ill-advised but disgusting is a bit extreme and we don't know her or her motivation for mentioning it.

    In fairness to her, she didn't accuse the guy of making fun of sister, just her disability.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Well that's your perspective and perhaps that might be the case but I don't know this woman from adam, so I don't know if she's the kind of person to do this. You could also see it as a woman who's had a very rough time in her life explaining this to people and to this gob****e as a way of saying, "I've had a really rough time in my life and I don't need this bullying ****" - she sounds very vulnerable and very human. Perhaps it was a little ill-advised but disgusting is a bit extreme and we don't know her or her motivation for mentioning it.

    In fairness to her, she didn't accuse the guy of making fun of sister, just her disability.

    No this is typical YT Sympathy click bait.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    So No, It has absolutely nothing to do with the other comedian. What a load of tripe introduction, All done to establish a level of sympathy. And don't get me started on the over the top crying.

    I want those 3:40 odd seconds of my life back.

    Jaysus you seem angrier at her than him - the real dickhead in this scene. That's gas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    No this is typical YT Sympathy click bait.


    She's got my sympathy anyway. Horrible prick. His standup was humiliating.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Jaysus you seem angrier at her than him - the real dickhead in this scene. That's gas.

    Valid opinion, That still does not change the fact it's YT click bait.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Well that's your perspective and perhaps that might be the case but I don't know this woman from adam, so I don't know if she's the kind of person to do this. You could also see it as a woman who's had a very rough time in her life explaining this to people and to this gob****e as a way of saying, "I've had a really rough time in my life and I don't need this bullying ****" - she sounds very vulnerable and very human. Perhaps it was a little ill-advised but disgusting is a bit extreme and we don't know her or her motivation for mentioning it.

    In fairness to her, she didn't accuse the guy of making fun of sister, just her disability.

    She went for the sympathy vote and she may well have achieved it with some people but surely she lost the "poor vulnerable me" card in the last 20 seconds of the video .......... she should have stuck with either the "poor me" persona or the "f*** you Ari" persona in order to at least appear genuinely upset.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    Valid opinion, That still does not change the fact it's YT click bait.


    Well what do you think his motivation for getting on stage and saying that "controversial" stuff about a random woman was? People do all kinds of stuff to garner attention on the internet nowadays from posting selfies on Facebook to posting certain kinds of posts on Boards etc. People are more public about their lives and feelings than they ever were and we're all guilty of it. I'd say his motivation and his way of going about getting that attention was more deserving of your ire than hers - it was beyond pathetic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    She went for the sympathy vote and she may well have achieved it with some people but surely she lost the "poor vulnerable me" card in the last 20 seconds of the video .......... she should have stuck with either the "poor me" persona or the "f*** you Ari" persona in order to at least appear genuinely upset.


    Meh!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭MakeEmLaugh


    That still does not change the fact it's YT click bait.

    Erm... if by 'YT click bait' you mean something presented in such a way as to attract viewers, then almost every video on YouTube is 'click bait'.

    No one puts a video on YouTube and wants as few people as possible to watch it.

    Calling something on YouTube 'click bait' seems a tad redundant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Frito


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    She went for the sympathy vote and she may well have achieved it with some people but surely she lost the "poor vulnerable me" card in the last 20 seconds of the video .......... she should have stuck with either the "poor me" persona or the "f*** you Ari" persona in order to at least appear genuinely upset.

    I don't think the two are mutually exclusive, you can be both vulnerable and defiant!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭enfant terrible



    If I were in her shoes, I'd have gone a lot further than merely raising my middle finger.

    What would you do make another youtube video response?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    She possibly should not have mentioned her past and her sister, but the tears seem genuine - he said some really hurtful stuff, which no doubt upset her to think about.
    There seems to be a trend of lacking empathy on the internet. I know there are times when people are just being whinge-bags and could do with a bit of "Pull yourself together" but I dislike when that gets applied to absolutely anything, including genuine, justified upset. That Ari guy is the person in the wrong here - if it weren't for him, she wouldn't have made that video.

    She is fat, she is one-armed, maybe she is annoying, but it's beyond me how that's fodder for a stand-up set.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    She went for the sympathy vote and she may well have achieved it with some people but surely she lost the "poor vulnerable me" card in the last 20 seconds of the video .......... she should have stuck with either the "poor me" persona or the "f*** you Ari" persona in order to at least appear genuinely upset.

    How many people when genuinely upset aren't both though? Its by no means uncommon for people who are feeling vulnerable and humiliated to come back with a stand that attempts to make themselves look strong and aggressive rather than weak?
    We are just all to used to listening to spin and people who have pr consultants write their apologies and explanations. Sometimes what's honest is not one bit pretty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    None of what he says seems to have a punchline - he's just attacking a woman for shock value, and to appear 'edgy', though mocking a woman with a disability who isn't around to defend herself is about as 'edgy' as shooting fish in a barrel. It's cruel, witless and unfunny.

    Hang on, this is Ari "The Amazing Racist" Shaffir we're talking about, his whole thing is to be as offensive as possible, he's not just scraping the bottom of the barrel, he's scraped clean through and dug 2 miles below the barrel into the earth's crust. Just for anyone who doesn't know him, this is his kinda humour:



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    I presume someone called Ari Shaffir is Jewish though and it's a dig at anti-semitism?
    Sacha Baron Cohen is Jewish and Borat is anti-semitic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    Links234 wrote: »
    Hang on, this is Ari "The Amazing Racist" Shaffir we're talking about, his whole thing is to be as offensive as possible, he's not just scraping the bottom of the barrel, he's scraped clean through and dug 2 miles below the barrel into the earth's crust. Just for anyone who doesn't know him, this is his kinda humour:

    That was funny, one below hilarious.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    IMO, if the passers-by are acting too, then yeah it'd be funny, but if not, it's ****ed up. You'd want to have some neck to do that to people who aren't in on it - risk of assault/getting into trouble with the law: high.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    IMO, if the passers-by are acting too, then yeah it'd be funny, but if not, it's ****ed up. You'd want to have some neck to do that to people who aren't in on it - risk of assault/getting into trouble with the law: high.

    Def acting, would be way funnier if he did it for real.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    I presume someone called Ari Shaffir is Jewish though and it's a dig at anti-semitism?
    Sacha Baron Cohen is Jewish and Borat is anti-semitic.

    Cohen's actually funny though ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭JerCotter7


    A video of hers linked in the comments is mocking some guy about having a small penis. That is pretty much 90% of comedians. Just saying the most antagonistic things you can get away with. She also mentions her arm about 5 times in it so it seems like she likes to make a joke about it. Fair enough she might not like others to joke about it but when you do it yourself you give off the impression you don't mind if others do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 793 ✭✭✭LadyAthame


    Free speech is something comedians get paid a lot for these days.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    I don't know who either of these so called comedians are, as far as I can see this Ari Shaffir fella is after ruining his career by randomly picking on a complete stranger who had a ****ed up life, for no reason I can see and the girl completely missed an opportunity to become an internet made famous comedian by doing a whingebag routine online.

    If she had any cop on she would have released a video with a carefully thought out roast routine that would endear people to her and say "fair play, she had a ****ed up life, that dude attacked her and she ****ing blew him out of the water - here's my money, I'll go see her now!"

    Instead we have an asshole noone likes and a whingebag that noone likes and noone is going to go see either of them and Jimmy Carr is going to make a quip about them and reap the benefits!

    Or I could be wrong........who knows. People have short memories.

    They could do a routine together and call it Karl Spain.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,387 ✭✭✭eisenberg1


    Hold up there. Jimmy Carr's one liners are alright, and Frankie Boyle is one funny f*cker

    Half of what you said about Frankie Boyle is correct ( not the funny bit).

    Just my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    All I know is that Dr. Richard Kimble would have no problem chasing and catching her.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,633 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    It was Lt Gerard doing the chasing.
    Richard Kimble was falsely accused.
    And the one armed man was Fred Johnson in the tv show and Fred Sykes in the movie.
    So now you know!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    It was Lt Gerard doing the chasing.
    Richard Kimble was falsely accused.

    I suggest you watch the original TV show again, especially season 3.
    Kimble was chasing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭nc19


    Got to do with what? Her? It's her sister. If horrible things happen to someone you really love, it affects you and it can be really upsetting for you. She's talking about horrible things have happened in her life and I'd say the kidnapping and rape of a sibling would be fairly high up on anyone's list. Strange that even needs explaining tbh.

    if the fella brought it up in his act then its relevant. as it stands its just her feeling sorry for herself.

    for all you know the fella was assaulted when he was younger causing him to act like a dick


    it is totally and absolutely irrelevant in this issue


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭nc19


    she'd be fcuked if she ever had to take part in one of them comedy roasts...............dont think fake tears and irrelevant facts about family members go down too well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,210 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    nc19 wrote: »
    she'd be fcuked if she ever had to take part in one of them comedy roasts...............dont think fake tears and irrelevant facts about family members go down too well


    I genuinely don't get how these "roasts" are classed as mainstream comedy? Insulting people in front of an audience was never going to be on the cutting edge of humour or intelligent comedy.

    I understand it obviously appeals to a certain mindset (hey, people don't understand how I think Mrs. Brown is hilarious), but these "comedy roast" efforts seem like nothing more than a pathetic publicity stunt, like you're a nobody until you've been insulted by the cream of American comedians.

    Something definitely lost in translation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Meh!

    Good comeback!! :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Frito wrote: »
    I don't think the two are mutually exclusive, you can be both vulnerable and defiant!

    She didn't appear to be either in my opinion, that's the point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    She didn't appear to either in my opinion, that's the point.

    Nah she comes off more as an idiot, Trying to make it out to be bullying. Maybe Comedy is not the best place for a person with such thin skin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    However edgy it might make people feel to say the crying is fake and she wasn't being bullied, it clearly isn't and she clearly was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    However edgy it might make people feel to say the crying is fake and she wasn't being bullied, it clearly isn't and she clearly was.

    It obviously isn't that clear seeing as there are varying views about it on this thread ...........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    Well there'll always be a handful who see nothing wrong with what Ari did - presumably those who would do similar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Well there'll always be a handful who see nothing wrong with what Ari did - presumably those who would do similar.

    I don't think anybody has tried to justify what Ari did? I certainly didn't .........


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    He's most famous for being bros with Joe Rogan, which will tell you an awful lot about his comedy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭darkdubh


    Yer mans nothing to write home about in the looks department.

    http://s1.ticketm.net/tm/en-us/dbimages/108877a.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    "My first thought was to challenge him to a roast battle"?

    And for all her yak about being a nice person, she two fingers the guy at the end of her video.


    One as bad as the other here really. Neither of 'em can claim the right to any moral high ground.

    Um she has a right to defend herself, he attacked her in front of a public audience for seemingly no reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,210 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Um she has a right to defend herself, he attacked her in front of a public audience for seemingly no reason.


    Defend herself from what exactly? I mean, some nobody who makes his living off insulting people indiscriminately?

    Why would she even give him any further publicity? That's why I don't get this "roast battle" crap - What? Who could get more laughs by insulting the other person? That just doesn't make any sense. It's so... juvenile!

    By all means she was like I said doing a great job of painting herself as some holier than holy paragon of virtue as opposed to the behaviour of that other idiot, but then she went and let her true colours show in the last few seconds of the video. It's not as if she couldn't help herself. It wasn't a live broadcast and she could have edited the last bit out, but nope. Had to get in a dig and abandon her dignity.

    I wouldn't be applauding either of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭PandaPoo


    I wouldn't be applauding either of them.

    She won't be applauding you either...


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