Normal People, is it realistic?

MoonUnit75 · 12-05-2020 4:25pm

olestoepoke wrote: »

The ignorance in this thread is astonishing. Ya'll need to go read the book or go find something else to moan about.

I started the book two nights ago to see if was any better. First few pages seem like they were written by Alexa!

12-05-2020 4:25pm

I only watched the first two eps. Snooze fest.
The school chats and comments seemed realistic enough. Your man the best friend who was sitting in the back of the car while they all waited for a takeaway was a great actor. "i'd say she makes you her butler does she yeah yeah".

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 4:26pm

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

I started the book two nights ago to see if was any better. First few pages seem like they were written by Alexa!

I'm going to start it now. Actually no i have an assignment to do....so ..i better do that!

Last thing ...Barack Obama loved it.

StupidLikeAFox · 12-05-2020 4:44pm

Its one of the best shows Ive seen in years. For anybody who is saying Connell is wooden or soulless, its fairly clear you haven't watched until the end and seen the entire character development. The guy is an incredible actor.

bluewolf wrote: »

I only watched the first two eps. Snooze fest.
The school chats and comments seemed realistic enough. Your man the best friend who was sitting in the back of the car while they all waited for a takeaway was a great actor. "i'd say she makes you her butler does she yeah yeah".

You should really stick with it. The show really develops in a very subtle way and its well worth it. Some powerful acting all round and a lot more drama from about halfway through.

StupidLikeAFox · 12-05-2020 4:49pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Could a girl that beautiful really be unpopular in school?

Yes - she was aloof, snappy, intellectual. She had an opinion of herself an certainly wasn't a crowd pleaser or trying to fit in with anyone and didn't suffer fools. This would paint a target on her back regardless of her looks.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 4:50pm

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Yes - she was aloof, snappy, intellectual. She had an opinion of herself an certainly wasn't a crowd pleaser or trying to fit in with anyone and didn't suffer fools. This would paint a target on her back regardless of her looks.

Reminds me of me ....only without the intellectual bit! :pac:

Im nice in real life tho!

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 5:16pm

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Yes - she was aloof, snappy, intellectual. She had an opinion of herself an certainly wasn't a crowd pleaser or trying to fit in with anyone and didn't suffer fools. This would paint a target on her back regardless of her looks.

OMG yeah i get it now! THANKS.

LeYouth · 12-05-2020 5:55pm

I haven't seen it. Man, i am trying to get through Hyperion, then I am going to start on the rest of the Dune series. I don't have time for normal people. Who's got time.

Beechwoodspark · 12-05-2020 5:58pm

More and more ppl have realized how cynical this show is.

Mass market cliched tripe with “sex scenes” to get publicity.

RobertKK · 12-05-2020 6:46pm

It should be called, Needy People.

wurzlitzer · 12-05-2020 7:10pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

More and more ppl have realized how cynical this show is.

Mass market cliched tripe with “sex scenes” to get publicity.

Who are these people? It’s not cynical at all however I agree it plods along to slowly if you can’t relate to it. it deals with so many issues. I am not one for reading what’s hot or watching what’s hot. But this was so beautifully shot and the acting brought me back in time. I never noticed the sex scenes I never looked away or cringe or boil the kettle. The intimacy between the two protagonists was immense you never noticed the sex and it’s at 10.15 at night

I am just so glad the show touched so many aspects bullying depression anxiety consent suicide pretentiousness and how money corrupts

Believe the hype
And what’s the definition of cynical?

wurzlitzer · 12-05-2020 7:12pm

RobertKK wrote: »

It should be called, Needy People.

Did you watch it? Why do you think it should be called this. What’s wrong with being needy? Everyone has needs.

gmisk · 12-05-2020 7:12pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

More and more ppl have realized how cynical this show is.

Mass market cliched tripe with “sex scenes” to get publicity.

And your basing that on what?
The tv show follows the book.
Seems to me it's been a massive hit with the public as well as critics, it also seems to have taken off in the US which is pretty cool for something set in Ireland with so much Irish involvement.

Beechwoodspark · 12-05-2020 7:18pm

Yep it’s mass market bilge. Thanks for making my point.

ThunbergsAreGo · 12-05-2020 7:22pm

gmisk wrote: »

And your basing that on what?
The tv show follows the book.
Seems to me it's been a massive hit with the public as well as critics, it also seems to have taken off in the US which is pretty cool for something set in Ireland with so much Irish involvement.

It is great its doing well in the states.

4 episodes in, and I'm not getting it

Daisy78 · 12-05-2020 7:23pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

there is more to conal than meets the eye , he is however quite cowardly , apart from being afraid to show any sort of difference from his friends , he is afraid to be seen with mariane as she is viewed as odd amongst said friends

being different in anyway is frowned upon in secondary schools , especially in rural parts of the country

And some people say it’s better to raise children in the country, grand if your kid is “normal”, but forget about being different in any way. Marianne isn’t even someone that stands out as being odd and she is still targeted.

The one crib I have about this book/tv show is the fact that she keeps letting him back in, even after he has acted like a total arsehole. I don’t understand why she entertains him at Trinity after the stunt he pulls in school.

gmisk · 12-05-2020 7:24pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Yep it’s mass market bilge. Thanks for making my point.

So if something becomes a hit it is suddenly mass market bilge....
Clearly it has connected on a deep level with a lot of people.
Don't watch it (I doubt you have watched it all anyway) simple as, maybe stick to sci-fi or whatever non "mass market bilge" stuff you are into.

gmisk · 12-05-2020 7:25pm

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

It is great its doing well in the states.

4 episodes in, and I'm not getting it

Maybe it isnt for you.
I think it improves as it goes like the book as you get a better understanding of the characters.
Bar tbh episode 9 which I thought was poor.

LiquidZeb · 12-05-2020 7:30pm

olestoepoke wrote: »

The ignorance in this thread is astonishing. Ya'll need to go read the book or go find something else to moan about.

Right so mein fuhrer, what subjects are we allowed to discuss?

Beechwoodspark · 12-05-2020 7:37pm

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

It is great its doing well in the states.

4 episodes in, and I'm not getting it

There’s nothing to get. Abramson decided to go shallow as f... on this one and get mass market viewing numbers boosted by the “sex scenes”

NSAman · 12-05-2020 7:39pm

Jesus did someone just go all "Dr. Phil" on us in this thread???

ThunbergsAreGo · 12-05-2020 7:41pm

gmisk wrote: »

Maybe it isnt for you.
I think it improves as it goes like the book as you get a better understanding of the characters.
Bar tbh episode 9 which I thought was poor.

Yeah I guess having read the books also helps as you can flesh out the characters, which seem pretty standard so far in the show - posh rich quirky girl, the pretty popular girl, nice jock, the mean jock etc.

Maybe it was the hype, or its cos I was expecting something else but just not grabbing me.

Very good to see an Irish show do well though.

wurzlitzer · 12-05-2020 7:41pm

its a love story and coming of age that is much closer to real live than what we see on TV

yes class, rural vs urban, bullying, narrow mindednesss but a lot of people experienced that transitioning from the country to Dublin that is why it is so relatable and no it’s not the same as going to Cork Waterford or Galway there is not as many prententious people in those cities compared to Dublin. Dublin you scrape by the other cities you manage to survive and have a comfortable life as a student. Dublin is a cold place if have no money.

Why is this so relatable it’s going out on your own for the first time without having the normal structures there you had to support you and trying to find your tribe and deal with the anxiety that comes with that maybe students from Dublin studying Dublin missed out on this and see this as pretence but working class people from rural areas have been doing this for a long time now scraping by in the big smoke.

I loved it and think I will read the book eventually.

Polarised discussion of what is good and bad are missing the point this is layered and there is no divide you can be working class and I have an interest in reading and art and not be intellectualised and you just use it as a form of escape especially in a world that is obsessed with the privatisation of the public space by looking down at their phone

Beechwoodspark · 12-05-2020 7:42pm

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Yeah I guess having read the books also helps as you can flesh out the characters, which seem pretty standard so far in the show - posh rich quirky girl, the pretty popular girl, nice jock, the mean jock etc.

Maybe it was the hype, or its cos I was expecting something else but just not grabbing me.

Very good to see an Irish show do well though.

It’s very cookie cutter cliched stuff

MoonUnit75 · 12-05-2020 7:45pm

Brother Marcus wrote: »

So it's basically another normie show to remind me how I missed out on teen love?

Yeah, into the trash it goes.

It’s basically what you would get if you smashed Home and Away, Grey’s Anatomy and 50 Shades of Grey together, shot it in Sligo and Trinity like a music video with a hipster soundtrack.

NSAman · 12-05-2020 7:49pm

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

It’s basically what you would get if you smashed Home and Away, Grey’s Anatomy and 50 Shades of Grey together, shot it in Sligo and Trinity like a music video with a hipster soundtrack.

I saw no avocado toast though!!

SusieBlue · 12-05-2020 7:51pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

If he was really popular he would have a stalker girl ..or an ex stalker GF. Every popular guy at my school had one of those.

Not being smart but if you had finished the series or read the book you would know that there was a girl who loosely fits that description who was extremely interested in him at school.

I don’t mind people not liking it but calling it crap, unrealistic & clichéd after 2 episodes isn’t really fair when the character development throughout the series explains exactly why they both behaved the way they did in the early episodes.
When you learn more about them it actually makes sense that they were like that. These are anything but one dimensional characters.

wurzlitzer · 12-05-2020 7:54pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

It’s very cookie cutter cliched stuff

Yeah it’s cookie cutter cliched stuff just like people who hang out in AH waiting to troll and agree with the 50% that agree with them that their views are also a mouse clicking cliche

I agree it’s a cliche but what is the definition of cliche what is definition of cynical

Have you watched it? Please watch it first before forming an opinion.

What does Cookie cutter cliche even mean ?
People have been living independent lives that have a domestic element for an age now it’s just Norma of what alternative is meant to be and look like and which now is no longer the alternative.

The Alternative is not a reality, the alternative is the cliche

wurzlitzer · 12-05-2020 7:57pm

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Right so mein fuhrer, what subjects are we allowed to discuss?

Who is Dr,Phil?

NSAman · 12-05-2020 7:59pm

wurzlitzer wrote: »

Who is Dr,Phil?

Remember Dr. Ruth? Well add 250lbs and 12 to 15 inches and a lot more body hair and a stupid southern accent.

jill_valentine · 12-05-2020 7:59pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

There’s nothing to get. Abramson decided to go shallow as f... on this one and get mass market viewing numbers boosted by the “sex scenes”

Pagecatching, and you've just been repeating this for a couple of pages about a show I've seen more people treat as event television than anything made in Ireland for years.

Your name's not Tommy by any chance?

gmisk · 12-05-2020 8:00pm

Brother Marcus wrote: »

Love how the girl is supposed to be some akward nerd and yet she stills gets the Chad bf.

An insight into female psychology there.

She is the awkward nerd at school and they are having a relationship of sorts but he is too ashamed to tell his friends and shuns her at school....the romance of it all...

You haven't watched it all or read it at least be honest.

The Chad thing and the normies comment is a tad incel....that's pretty sad.

Tork · 12-05-2020 8:02pm

Yeah, all we need is cuck and we're done

Nermal · 12-05-2020 8:02pm

The promotional guff reminds me of the theme from the Family Guy parody of One Tree Hill... "high school is such a serious thing, these problems matter"

wurzlitzer · 12-05-2020 8:04pm

NSAman wrote: »

I saw no avocado toast though!!

Is this funny anymore? The avocado dig.
People recycling tropes about hipsters and millennials is so old hat. And that’s a joke btw.

Did you watch it? I am neither a hipster or a millennial but I related to it.

The series It was like an onion it had many layers to it

LiquidZeb · 12-05-2020 8:05pm

wurzlitzer wrote: »

Who is Dr,Phil?

I don't know, unlike you I don't frame my entire self esteem around my favourite tv show. But that's just me.

RobertKK · 12-05-2020 8:05pm

wurzlitzer wrote: »

Did you watch it? Why do you think it should be called this. What’s wrong with being needy? Everyone has needs.

Yes, both are too much work.

Tork · 12-05-2020 8:07pm

Chad
Origin: Unknown, possibly 4chan

Meaning: Chad Thundercock—or just “chad”—is a derogatory name given to attractive men who are sexually successful with women.

Etymology: The origin of the meaning of “chad” is murky, but it was probably popularized on 4chan, the imageboard also home to the Anonymous hacker collective. It rose out of the depths of the internet around 2013 but only reached alt-right consciousness in the last year or so. (You might have seen the “virgin walk” memes floating around, for example.)

Today the place you’ll see “chad” most often is on the subreddit r/Incels, which is a depressing mix of self-loathing, self-pity, and misogyny. Chads are the ubiquitous successful object of envy for this community: attractive, smart, successful, and always lucky with women. The idea is used to reinforce the notion that celibacy is involuntary; incels think the only reason why women won’t sleep with them is because they don’t look like chads, as women are shallow and will always go for chads.

Beechwoodspark · 12-05-2020 8:10pm

jill_valentine wrote: »

Pagecatching, and you've just been repeating this for a couple of pages about a show I've seen more people treat as event television than anything made in Ireland for years.

Your name's not Tommy by any chance?

Who is tommy? Genuinely asking

wurzlitzer · 12-05-2020 8:10pm

Brother Marcus wrote: »

'You're saying things I don't like so I'm going to call you an incel'.

Such a low-IQ female response.

Can you just apologise for that misogynistic remark read it back

I agree no one should call anyone an incel

so this is the fate of AH it has gone from bants to Chernobyl.
Banter is banter but remarks above are insults.

I

Beechwoodspark · 12-05-2020 8:11pm

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

It’s basically what you would get if you smashed Home and Away, Grey’s Anatomy and 50 Shades of Grey together, shot it in Sligo and Trinity like a music video with a hipster soundtrack.

This really does sum it up

NSAman · 12-05-2020 8:13pm

wurzlitzer wrote: »

Is this funny anymore? The avocado dig.
People recycling tropes about hipsters and millennials is so old hat. And that’s a joke btw.

Did you watch it? I am neither a hipster or a millennial but I related to it.

The series It was like an onion it had many layers to it

I have seen the whole series and yes I enjoyed it immensely. As a piece of television it was slow to get going, but once the characters revealed themselves I enjoyed the whole thing.

By the way, anyone who eats avocado toast is open game..;)

Beechwoodspark · 12-05-2020 8:14pm

The avocado toast signifies the mass market tripe this series is - intentionally so by the director

gmisk · 12-05-2020 8:15pm

Brother Marcus wrote: »

'You're saying things I don't like so I'm going to call you an incel'.

Such a low-IQ female response.

What a charmer I would say you get all the girls...
I am a male for a start.... lol

wurzlitzer · 12-05-2020 8:23pm

NSAman wrote: »

I have seen the whole series and yes I enjoyed it immensely. As a piece of television it was slow to get going, but once the characters revealed themselves I enjoyed the whole thing.

By the way, anyone who eats avocado toast is open game..;)

Well I love avocado toast at Lidl prices if that’s alright

Yeah but I liked the way the series lacks humour as humour and being salty and sarky is seen as the new currency nowadays and there was not a meme on sight.

All our lives now are one big meme

SusieBlue · 12-05-2020 8:30pm

It’s worth noting that the book goes into detail of describing how Marianne is quite unattractive & plain looking.
At one point during Connell’s inner monologue he describes her as repulsive and questions himself as to why he feels such an attraction & strong feelings for someone like her. Someone who has read it more recently than me might have a clearer recollection of that part of the book, but that’s the gist of it.

Obviously this wasn’t going to be an easy part to cast, Daisy Edgar-Jones is stunning, even when they purposely try to make her look plain in the school episodes.
But it might give some further insight as to why Connell was so desperate to hide the relationship, and why Marianne was so snarky & defensive to other people in the early episodes.
He was insecure and she was hurting.

wurzlitzer · 12-05-2020 8:35pm

LiquidZeb wrote: »

I don't know, unlike you I don't frame my entire self esteem around my favourite tv show. But that's just me.

I am not like you.
Are you attacking me?
Is that not trolling right there?

I don’t have a favourite TV show....
If you did n’t like the show that much and you don’t think it’s relatable go to another thread and moan

Personally attacking individuals and their esteem is not a good look on anyone

NSAman · 12-05-2020 8:46pm

wurzlitzer wrote: »

Well I love avocado toast at Lidl prices if that’s alright

Yeah but I liked the way the series lacks humour as humour and being salty and sarky is seen as the new currency nowadays and there was not a meme on sight.

All our lives now are one big meme

Hey cut me some slack Jack.... there are literally 600 channels here and there is F^^^ all to look at 200 bucks a month and the only stuff I can watch is streaming services....

Sarky and salty? But I am not an old dog.... sarky absolutely.;)

freddie1970 · 12-05-2020 8:54pm

vandriver wrote: »

Still at school and driving his own car on a full license.That strained credibility just too far.

I went to secondary school in the 80's and about 4 or 5 lads in my class had a car ..driving in from the country

NSAman · 12-05-2020 8:55pm

freddie1970 wrote: »

I went to secondary school in the 80's and about 4 or 5 lads in my class had a car ..driving in from the country

Were you held back too?

Normal People, is it realistic?

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