UFC 189 - McGregor v Mendes READ MOD WARNING IN 1st POST

mailburner · 05-07-2015 8:06pm

well at least by fight time there'll be a whole lot less trolls here bar the drunken ones on the night no doubt
I'd like to be a mod from now till then :pac:

Zero-Cool · 05-07-2015 8:18pm

The embedded episodes have been very tame so far, i think they definitely work better for the week of the fight. I see the 189 Countdown show is on tonight 9pm ET so will check it out tomorrow and Inside the Octagon will be live 11am our time tomorrow.

EuskalHerria · 05-07-2015 8:27pm

sheehy83 wrote: »

The embedded episodes have been very tame so far, i think they definitely work better for the week of the fight. I see the 189 Countdown show is on tonight 9pm ET so will check it out tomorrow and Inside the Octagon will be live 11am our time tomorrow.

BT have a show tomorrow evening with Gareth Davies. Looking specifically at Conor's rise.

05-07-2015 8:35pm

Re - embedded 4.
Was that a glimpse of Lawler and MacDonald in there? Jeez, it's like trying to spot an endangered white rhino or something for all the air time they're getting. Unbelievable really. And they're probably much more interesting athletes and people too in many ways.
Have to say Mendes does come across as a really decent guy. Hard to dislike him…

CatFromHue · 05-07-2015 8:38pm

Interesting to see Mendes and his camp talking about the pace, or lack or, in the Siver fight.

Beersmith · 05-07-2015 8:50pm

Cali_girl wrote: »

Re - embedded 4.
Was that a glimpse of Lawler and MacDonald in there? Jeez, it's like trying to spot an endangered white rhino or something for all the air time they're getting. Unbelievable really. And they're probably much more interesting athletes and people too in many ways.
Have to say Mendes does come across as a really decent guy. Hard to dislike him…

Did you see the episode? They were the most boring parts of it. The are generally viewed as having no personalities, although rorys physco like behavior is a bit interesting

scudzilla · 05-07-2015 8:58pm

Beersmith wrote: »

Did you see the episode? They were the most boring parts of it. The are generally viewed as having no personalities, although rorys physco like behavior is a bit interesting

yeah, firin up that huge gas bbq for 1 chicken breast, psycho indeed

Eircom_Sucks · 05-07-2015 8:59pm

scudzilla wrote: »

yeah, firin up that huge gas bbq for 1 chicken breast, psycho indeed

should get his delph sorted out that rory fella

great card this one , watching from 1 am , 9 fights savage

Crann na Beatha · 05-07-2015 9:04pm

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DrPhilG · 05-07-2015 9:05pm

EuskalHerria wrote: »

BT have a show tomorrow evening with Gareth Davies. Looking specifically at Conor's rise.

You had me until you mentioned Davies...

Can't stand that clown.

Hurk · 05-07-2015 9:18pm

Hey lads. Made a McGregor promo in advance of UFC 189, if ye fancy giving it a gander. Did the edit and music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmxUNtm_Sw8

EuskalHerria · 05-07-2015 9:33pm

DrPhilG wrote: »

You had me until you mentioned Davies...

Can't stand that clown.

You're not even slightly curious as to what type of scarf he'll wear...?

JustTheOne · 05-07-2015 9:42pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

Interesting to see Mendes and his camp talking about the pace, or lack or, in the Siver fight.

Yeah and them saying there's a leg kick again when conor ended up on the floor from receiving one.

All_in_Flynn · 05-07-2015 10:38pm

Just watched the Siver fight again there on Setanta.

He's so good at keeping distance. My only worry is that over hand right from Chad. Siver was close to landing a few short hooks and the odd right when the exchanges were up close. Chad is exponentially quicker than Siver so Conor will have to be careful.

In saying that, the straight left from Conor is a thing of beauty. He hurt Siver each and everytime he landed it.

Going to be a long week in work. Safe travels to all those heading over this week. For those hitting Vegas for the first time, I can't tell you how jealous I am. What a place. Have fun!

ASOT · 05-07-2015 10:40pm

All_in_Flynn wrote: »

Just watched the Siver fight again there on Setanta.

He's so good at keeping distance. My only worry is that over hand right from Chad. Siver was close to landing a few short hooks and the odd right when the exchanges were up close. Chad is exponentially quicker than Siver so Conor will have to be careful.

In saying that, the straight left from Conor is a thing of beauty. He hurt Siver each and everytime he landed it.

Going to be a long week in work. Safe travels to all those heading over this week. For those hitting Vegas for the first time, I can't tell you how jealous I am. What a place. Have fun!

His face was ridiculously messed up after that first round, his accuracy is amazing.

05-07-2015 10:42pm

To people heading over for future reference if you headed over to Vegas for a UFC event, alone would you find Irish people over there to go on the beer with and stuff?

I always wanted to head over for a fight but none of my friends would have any interest in spending that kind of money to head to vegas.

ibrahimovic · 05-07-2015 10:48pm

Anyone think that Conor still looks very big in these embedded episodes? Hows he gonna get to 145 by next week?

Depp · 05-07-2015 11:02pm

ah i doubt he'll have problems making weight, very professional team behind him and hes not the type to skimp on training, anyone else notice how drained and skeletal he looks on the scales his last few fights? must be a horrible cut! wonder if a move up to 155 would see much of an improvement? Love to see him against Cowboy or someone where he wouldnt have his usual reach advantage see how he adapts to it.

05-07-2015 11:06pm

Depp wrote: »

ah i doubt he'll have problems making weight, very professional team behind him and hes not the type to skimp on training, anyone else notice how drained and skeletal he looks on the scales his last few fights? must be a horrible cut! wonder if a move up to 155 would see much of an improvement? Love to see him against Cowboy or someone where he wouldnt have his usual reach advantage see how he adapts to it.

How you reckon he would fare against Cerrone?

ibrahimovic · 05-07-2015 11:14pm

Depp wrote: »

ah i doubt he'll have problems making weight, very professional team behind him and hes not the type to skimp on training, anyone else notice how drained and skeletal he looks on the scales his last few fights? must be a horrible cut! wonder if a move up to 155 would see much of an improvement? Love to see him against Cowboy or someone where he wouldnt have his usual reach advantage see how he adapts to it.

Yeah he looked like a zombie here!:eek:

Depp · 05-07-2015 11:16pm

Deleted User wrote: »

How you reckon he would fare against Cerrone?

Very hard to know, Cerrone be a very tough fight for him, very similar and Cerrone's kickboxing is unreal, plus hes taller than conor too that'd be something we havent really seen before...be a cracker though!

Depp · 05-07-2015 11:18pm

close enough!

Old Perry · 05-07-2015 11:19pm

Depp wrote: »

ah i doubt he'll have problems making weight, very professional team behind him and hes not the type to skimp on training, anyone else notice how drained and skeletal he looks on the scales his last few fights? must be a horrible cut! wonder if a move up to 155 would see much of an improvement? Love to see him against Cowboy or someone where he wouldnt have his usual reach advantage see how he adapts to it.

that would be class. id love to see fight some of them lads. how does work if he wins the belt at 145? must he stay at that weight to defend?

Depp · 05-07-2015 11:21pm

I think you can fight at two divisions and hold a belt but youd have to cut to defend the belt at the weight it was won at...think he held 145 and 155 at cage warriors at the same time. I'd kill to see him fight Cowboy

JustTheOne · 05-07-2015 11:25pm

let's get by Mendes first.

05-07-2015 11:27pm

JustTheOne wrote: »

let's get by Mendes first.

If Conor loses to Mendes and Cerrone loses in December that would be a good fight to make though at 155.

Old Perry · 05-07-2015 11:35pm

Depp wrote: »

I think you can fight at two divisions and hold a belt but youd have to cut to defend the belt at the weight it was won at...think he held 145 and 155 at cage warriors at the same time. I'd kill to see him fight Cowboy

Ah right so. if he annihilates mendes the way he hss the others it would seem 155 would be a devision with a bit more of a challange then. cerrone and conor standing in front of eachother trading punches would be an epic battle altough if he did move up he'd probably have to fight a couple lower in the rankings before hand no?. iaquinta or henderson would just as interesting also. assuming cerrone or henderson would still be going at that stage, how long do yas reckon cerrone has left? or how much do ya reckon he wants before he calls it a day ?:-)

Depp · 05-07-2015 11:38pm

id imagine with the hype behind him they'd give him a high level guy soon enough...Id imagine cowboy has another bit left in the tank though cant wait till he eventually gets his title shot! Straight into a title shot at 155 could even be a possibility frankie got it going the other way!

johnpro · 05-07-2015 11:57pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

To people heading over for future reference if you headed over to Vegas for a UFC event, alone would you find Irish people over there to go on the beer with and stuff?

I always wanted to head over for a fight but none of my friends would have any interest in spending that kind of money to head to vegas.

100%...we'd a gang the last time and same again this time but even travelling alone the amount of people you meet and just get chatting to and have the craic with...it's a deadly atmosphere!

06-07-2015 12:11am

johnpro wrote: »

100%...we'd a gang the last time and same again this time but even travelling alone the amount of people you meet and just get chatting to and have the craic with...it's a deadly atmosphere!

Deadly how much would you be needed between tickets/hotel/flights and beer

2k or so Id think.

edit: Just purchased the Mcgregor fight on UFC tv, 17.99 isn't to bad really.

Mellor · 06-07-2015 3:13am

Old Perry wrote: »

that would be class. id love to see fight some of them lads. how does work if he wins the belt at 145? must he stay at that weight to defend?

The FW belt can only be contested at 145.
If he wins the interim belt, unifys it with Aldo's title, and defends it against Edgar. He could realistically take a competitive 155 fight while the FW divisions regroups. But not before then imo.

06-07-2015 3:29am

Mellor wrote: »

The FW belt can only be contested at 145.
If he wins the interim belt, unifys it with Aldo's title, and defends it against Edgar. He could realistically take a competitive 155 fight while the FW divisions regroups. But not before then imo.

I love watching UFC/mma but I am not that up on the preparation for going into a fight. I saw Mcgregor at recent weigh ins looking really bad after the cut and he says himself he struggles to make the weight. Do you think with the new ban on IV rehydration it makes him more likely to move up to lightweight and only reason I'm asking you specifically is from reading around here your opinions seem fairly solid.

scudzilla · 06-07-2015 3:31am

Deleted User wrote: »

I love watching UFC/mma but I am not that up on the preparation for going into a fight. I saw Mcgregor at recent weigh ins looking really bad after the cut and he says himself he struggles to make the weight. Do you think with the new ban on IV rehydration it makes him more likely to move up to lightweight and only reason I'm asking you specifically is from reading around here your opinions seem fairly solid.

I don't think we'll really know the answer to this until the ban comes to place in October, we 'should' see quite a few fighters going up a weight class by then

06-07-2015 3:32am

scudzilla wrote: »

I don't think we'll really know the answer to this until the ban comes to place in October, we 'should' see quite a few fighters going up a weight class by then

Lke I dont know myself for sure what it takes to cut like they do, because I never done it.... it looks pretty fecking intense though.

scudzilla · 06-07-2015 3:34am

Deleted User wrote: »

Lke I dont know myself for sure what it takes to cut like they do because I never done it but it looks pretty fecking intense.

Conor probably walks around at 165-170, he'll weigh in at 145 but by the time he enters the octagon 24hrs later he'll be close to 160, maybe even 165.

06-07-2015 3:41am

scudzilla wrote: »

Conor probably walks around at 165-170, he'll weigh in at 145 but by the time he enters the octagon 24hrs later he'll be close to 160, maybe even 165.

Yeah he seems massive for 145 which is one of his advantages I think, although he seems to be getting tired of making those cuts. I think he is also a really gifted striker but am I wrong in saying that lightweight division is much more stacked division and he will find it harder there.

Mellor · 06-07-2015 4:49am

Deleted User wrote: »

I love watching UFC/mma but I am not that up on the preparation for going into a fight. I saw Mcgregor at recent weigh ins looking really bad after the cut and he says himself he struggles to make the weight. Do you think with the new ban on IV rehydration it makes him more likely to move up to lightweight and only reason I'm asking you specifically is from reading around here your opinions seem fairly solid.

He makes a big cut, no doubt. I don't know for sure if he uses IVs, but maybe. Not being able to use an IV doesn't make it harder to make the weight, it just makes it slower to recover.
When the IV comes in, he might be better off cutting from 160 instead of say 165 in order to recover better (made up numbers, but that's the ball park) - but he could still make the cut if he needed to, the IV doesn't help you getting there, only back up.

Zero-Cool · 06-07-2015 9:04am

Conor v Chad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAhpQzWz07U

Rory v Robbie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb1NEmH4JU0

stephenl15 · 06-07-2015 9:24am

And here was me watching my followed threads waiting for the old one to reopen...

nc19 · 06-07-2015 9:39am

Old Perry wrote:

Depends on how the ufc see it, as a habit of pulling out or as misfortune to become injured.

If he's been medically cleared to fight then he's not injured imo

Strip him.....

TheNap · 06-07-2015 9:46am

nc19 wrote: »

If he's been medically cleared to fight then he's not injured imo

Strip him.....

How did they clear him to fight with a fractured rib ?

Madness on their part

Davei141 · 06-07-2015 9:48am

nc19 wrote: »

If he's been medically cleared to fight then he's not injured imo

Strip him.....

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/07/how-serious-is-a-rib-fracture-like-the-one-suffered-by-jose-aldo-ahead-of-ufc-189

At least try to pretend you have a bloody clue what is going on before adding your 2 cents.

SpaceCowb0y · 06-07-2015 9:49am

The countdown show done a good job of finally building a nit of hype for the Lawlor V McDonald fight! Really looking forward to that scrap, the two lads have been extremely impressive over the last while! heart says McDonald, head says Lawlor he is an absolute beast!

nc19 · 06-07-2015 9:56am

CatFromHue wrote:

Interesting to see Mendes and his camp talking about the pace, or lack or, in the Siver fight.

If you mean in terms of conors pace/tempo then I think mendes shouldn't pay much attention to it. I think conor goes as fast or as slow as he wants. If mendes tries to up the tempo to gas conor or put him under pressure I think conor will just match it

Tazzimus · 06-07-2015 9:58am

nc19 wrote: »

If you mean in terms of conors pace/tempo then I think mendes shouldn't pay much attention to it. I think conor goes as fast or as slow as he wants. If mendes tries to up the tempo to gas conor or put him under pressure I think conor will just match it

Yeh I think in that fight he was just dictating the pace cos he knew he wasn't in much trouble from Siver so just picked his shots and didn't really break a sweat.

stephenl15 · 06-07-2015 10:33am

johnpro wrote: »

100%...we'd a gang the last time and same again this time but even travelling alone the amount of people you meet and just get chatting to and have the craic with...it's a deadly atmosphere!

I wanted to go over but I didn't want to go alone. Good to hear it would be possible to meet people to hang around and beer with :P

SQLDBA · 06-07-2015 10:43am

Just saw Chad is now ranked #2 on ufc. com/rankings

Zero-Cool · 06-07-2015 10:49am

SQLDBA wrote: »

Just saw Chad is now ranked #2 on ufc. com/rankings

So, Frankie jumps to no.1 but didn't get the interim shot...

Beersmith · 06-07-2015 10:52am

sheehy83 wrote: »

So, Frankie jumps to no.1 but didn't get the interim shot...

Yeah, aparently that was switched after the fight announcment, but again rankings are the media not ufc so they are doing what they want not on the rankings

SpaceCowb0y · 06-07-2015 10:55am

I saw someone saying Inside The Octagon was streaming live today at 11am, anyone have a link to the stream?

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