Supplements

john_cappa · 12-02-2012 3:01pm

do you seriously believe you have lost 4 lb of fat in 5 days? Has your diet changed in that period?

marathonic · 12-02-2012 3:07pm

john_cappa wrote: »

do you seriously believe you have lost 4 lb of fat in 5 days? Has your diet changed in that period?

4lb of fat is 14,000 calories so that's only a 2,800 daily calorie deficit...

Gummy Panda · 13-02-2012 12:00pm

Got a bag of bulk powders complete blend. Very good product so far. Tastes good, no stomach issues and mixes well.

I was going to buy MP Total Protein but the addition of milled flax seed puts me off. I believe that stuff becomes rancid very easily

nbrady20009 · 15-02-2012 1:49am

Beta-Ecdysterone, give me the low down on it.

Dermighty · 15-02-2012 11:14am

I just stopped taking NOexplode, having taken it twice I don't really feel that it's for me, 2000% of your RDA of vitamin B just makes no sense.

boomtown84 · 24-02-2012 5:09pm

loneranger1981 wrote: »

Hi all,

Newbie here so excuse me if this topic has been addressed previously.

I am aware of and have used the following supplements: Whey Protein, Recovery, Lean Gain, BCAAs, Vitargo, Energy Gels and bars.

My question to the forum is could someone give me some guidance on when to take the above mentioned supplements in relation to the different times of a season.

Phase 1 - Pre-Season - Heavy weights and endurance
Phase 2 - In Season - Speed, explosive power, skills
Phase 3 - Off Season - As season ends - i am unsure as to type of training required so would welcome any advice.

I look forward to hearing your comments.

Thanks

Have you already bought these supps?

Pre season - recovery is so important especially after coming from a few weeks not training. If you must use supplements i'd recommend taking them around training ie. protein shake / recovery drink taken after session. or you can sip on it before/throughout (whichever suits...i generally stick to water while training).
Take the BCAA's if endurance training on an empty stomach eg before a long run first thing in the morning.

In season - again around training especially after matches.

Off season - not needed just enjoy your food.

Obviously the above won't make a blind bit of difference if you don't eat right.
Under eat - under perform and 40gram Protein + recovery shake won't help you.

Praetorian Saighdiuir · 03-03-2012 2:46pm

Hi all

I am seriously confused to what supplements I should be taking. Here's what I am doing at the moment.

Mon/Wed/Fri:

Cycle 11 miles to work.
1 hour in gym doing weights (recently did some 1rm work)
Cycle 11 miles home
4 Mile run as soon as I get home

Tue/Thurs:

2-3 mile jog at lunch time
Core exercises in the gym

Sat:

Will be starting to do 4-5 hour hillwalks with a weighted backpack.

Any help would be appreciated.

marathonic · 03-03-2012 3:21pm

benwavner wrote: »

I am seriously confused to what supplements I should be taking.

It really depends on your diet and goals. The four most popular supplements are usually:

Whey Protein - If you're not getting 1g-1.5g of protein per lb bodyweight in your current diet, look first at improving your diet and, if you're still finding it tough getting the required amount, then get some Whey Protein Concentrate. This is no better or worse than the protein you'd get from, for example, tuna or chicken. However, it can be more convenient after a gym session.
Multi-Vitamin - If your diet is deficient of some vitamin, or you're worried that it is, then this is a good option
Fish Oils - There is lots of research that suggest various advantages to taking fish oil (Omega 3). Again, you may be getting it from your diet if you eat plenty of oily fish
Creatine - This supposedly gives you an extra form of energy (can't remember the name) that can let you push out that last rep sometimes where you would have otherwise failed. If your goals are to build muscle and you're not stalling on the weights, this may be a good option - as all those extra reps add up to increased muscle. Again, it's not the magical supplement that some people make it out to be that causes you to gain massive amounts of muscle. It just allows you, at times, to do an extra rep on some of your excercises. This, over time, helps build more muscle.

There's a multitude of other supplements but I'd just read up more on the above and decide whether they are for you first.

Scuba Ste · 03-03-2012 5:54pm

benwavner wrote: »

Hi all

I am seriously confused to what supplements I should be taking. Here's what I am doing at the moment.

Mon/Wed/Fri:
Cycle 11 miles to work.

1 hour in gym doing weights (recently did some 1rm work)

Cycle 11 miles home

4 Mile run as soon as I get home

Tue/Thurs:
2-3 mile jog at lunch time

Core exercises in the gym

Sat:
Will be starting to do 4-5 hour hillwalks with a weighted backpack.

Any help would be appreciated.

Depends on your goals

Weight loss - You don't really need anything just eat less.

Weight gain - Protein can help if your not getting enough but eating lots can mask many macro deficiencies imo.

Generally I think if you don't know what you should be taking or why you probably don't need anything. I don't think most people need more than those marathonic mentioned if even those.

Praetorian Saighdiuir · 03-03-2012 6:16pm

Thanks lads,

A lot of lads in work recommend crazy looking stuff like Jack3D and some shotgun stuff etc etc.

The problem is, with so many people telling you that you should use this or that, then the next person tells you that the previous guy was full of crap......mind boggling.

Im trying to slim down but pack on muscle......sure isnt everyone

Il start with the diet....I was looking at some guy called Kris Gethins 12 week diet the other day,was a bit nuts though.

Spunge · 03-03-2012 6:21pm

Well jack3d is definitely powerful stuff but its way too powerful for me, makes me feel extremely depressed and basically cant move for hours afterwards. But its like cocaine when you're hitting the weights.

Dermighty · 03-03-2012 6:22pm

marathonic wrote: »

[*]Creatine - This supposedly gives you an extra form of energy (can't remember the name).

Glycogen I'd say.

Gummy Panda · 03-03-2012 6:49pm

Dermighty wrote: »

marathonic wrote: »

[*]Creatine - This supposedly gives you an extra form of energy (can't remember the name).

Glycogen I'd say.

No, it's ATP

connundrum · 03-03-2012 9:40pm

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boomtown84 · 04-03-2012 11:54am

connundrum wrote: »

From todaysdeals.ie

Highly recommend this company(FSV). Nice to deal with and fast delivery.

Gummy Panda · 04-03-2012 12:01pm

boomtown84 wrote: »

connundrum wrote: »

From todaysdeals.ie

Highly recommend this company(FSV). Nice to deal with and fast delivery.

Did you ever use one of the done deals offers?

connundrum · 04-03-2012 12:30pm

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Did you ever use one of the done deals offers?

Not yet, bought on Fri, the instruction says not to use for 2 working days (processing time). Will try Mon/Tues and will post back with result.

boomtown84 · 04-03-2012 12:32pm

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Did you ever use one of the done deals offers?

If you mean the 'today's deals' then yes. I got the last one for FSV. 60 quid for 5kg Kinetica Whey and 500g creatine mono. Great deal.

Gummy Panda · 04-03-2012 12:43pm

connundrum wrote: »

Not yet, bought on Fri, the instruction says not to use for 2 working days (processing time). Will try Mon/Tues and will post back with result.

boomtown84 wrote: »

If you mean the 'today's deals' then yes. I got the last one for FSV. 60 quid for 5kg Kinetica Whey and 500g creatine mono. Great deal.

So I just buy today and wait till wednesday to order?

connundrum · 04-03-2012 1:53pm

Gummy Panda wrote: »

connundrum wrote: »

Not yet, bought on Fri, the instruction says not to use for 2 working days (processing time). Will try Mon/Tues and will post back with result.

boomtown84 wrote: »

If you mean the 'today's deals' then yes. I got the last one for FSV. 60 quid for 5kg Kinetica Whey and 500g creatine mono. Great deal.

So I just buy today and wait till wednesday to order?

Seems to be it. I will call em tomorrow and see if I can call over to the shop. Always did prefer B&M purchasing

Dermighty · 04-03-2012 2:16pm

Gummy Panda wrote: »

No, it's ATP

Yeah you're right, I was going to say ATP but strictly speaking creatine only facilitates ATP production rather than containing ATP and Creatine promotes extra Glycogen storage. so it's a bit of a grey area I think :P

Gummy Panda · 06-03-2012 11:20am

connundrum wrote: »

Gummy Panda wrote: »

connundrum wrote: »

Not yet, bought on Fri, the instruction says not to use for 2 working days (processing time). Will try Mon/Tues and will post back with result.

boomtown84 wrote: »

If you mean the 'today's deals' then yes. I got the last one for FSV. 60 quid for 5kg Kinetica Whey and 500g creatine mono. Great deal.

So I just buy today and wait till wednesday to order?

Seems to be it. I will call em tomorrow and see if I can call over to the shop. Always did prefer B&M purchasing

Where you able to use your voucher?

Tried ringing them this morning but no answer

connundrum · 06-03-2012 9:06pm

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Where you able to use your voucher?

Tried ringing them this morning but no answer

Tried calling this morning too with no joy. Emailed todaysdeals.ie to query this and Brian from the site said that someone would be on to me asap.

An hour later Richard from fsv.ie called, confirmed the voucher and took the order. Am expecting delivery on Thurs. Will report back when complete.

Gummy Panda - I've pm'd you that chap's mobile number if you want to call him.

Gummy Panda · 08-03-2012 8:06pm

connundrum wrote: »

Tried calling this morning too with no joy. Emailed todaysdeals.ie to query this and Brian from the site said that someone would be on to me asap.

An hour later Richard from fsv.ie called, confirmed the voucher and took the order. Am expecting delivery on Thurs. Will report back when complete.

Gummy Panda - I've pm'd you that chap's mobile number if you want to call him.

Sorry I forgot to reply. I got my Kinetica whey and a free shaker this morning from fsv.ie

Vanilla Kinetica whey is not bad

Ice87 · 08-03-2012 8:14pm

Looking to buy a 5kg bag of whey. Can anyone recommend a flavour with myprotein as i've yet to use them. Is vanilla alright?

Orla K · 08-03-2012 8:21pm

Ice87 wrote: »

Looking to buy a 5kg bag of whey. Can anyone recommend a flavour with myprotein as i've yet to use them. Is vanilla alright?

Meh, I tried samples of alot of them, I would go for strawberry or choc, toffee wasn't bad as far as I remember(but has gluten in it) mocha tasted like the buttercream icing on a coffee cake. Raspberry one tasted like raspberries. The rest I don't really remember.

Gummy Panda · 08-03-2012 9:02pm

Ice87 wrote: »

Looking to buy a 5kg bag of whey. Can anyone recommend a flavour with myprotein as i've yet to use them. Is vanilla alright?

Probably Strawberry or banana.

Choc smooth is too sweet, Mocha was horrible and choc coconut tastes like toffee with a coconut after taste. Though their flavouring can be a mixed bag as sometimes its either too weak or too strong.

Try bulkpowders.co.uk they're not bad either but their complete blend choc cookie is lovely and a great blend

connundrum · 08-03-2012 9:02pm

Ice87 wrote: »

Looking to buy a 5kg bag of whey. Can anyone recommend a flavour with myprotein as i've yet to use them. Is vanilla alright?

I love cookies & cream.

Spunge · 08-03-2012 9:24pm

Ive tried myprotein banan and strawberry cream, they are both nice but banana is the nicer.

On that note does anyone know how many ml are in a 25g scoop from myprotein ?

Owen_S · 08-03-2012 10:01pm

It's not a good idea to buy 5KG of an unfamiliar flavour, try get some samples if you can. Chocolate is a safe bet, the vanilla is OK, and the chocolate mint, mocha and banoffee flavours are delicious in shakes, but not so great in other recipes(in oatmeal, bars etc.).

Spunge wrote: »

Ive tried myprotein banan and strawberry cream, they are both nice but banana is the nicer.

On that note does anyone know how many ml are in a 25g scoop from myprotein ?

As far as I know, 70ml, since that's the size of the large scoop sold on their website.

marathonic · 08-03-2012 10:14pm

Ice87 wrote: »

Looking to buy a 5kg bag of whey. Can anyone recommend a flavour with myprotein as i've yet to use them. Is vanilla alright?

my favorite is chocolate mint....

The Guvnor · 08-03-2012 11:21pm

How many mls are required to weigh 25g?

IME the closest scoop to work for you will be 53ml which yields 24.75g or so.

This is when level.

Not in relation to MP but some co's have scoops in their products which gives a lot more powder than suggested.

SpaceCowb0y · 09-03-2012 9:17am

boomtown84 wrote: »

Highly recommend this company(FSV). Nice to deal with and fast delivery.

The lads at Fitness supplements ireland are very good, and helpful but there stock is limited.

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Sorry I forgot to reply. I got my Kinetica whey and a free shaker this morning from fsv.ie

Vanilla Kinetica whey is not bad

I got the choc Kinetica and a free shaker but the protein content in it is very low(21g in 30g scoop). Its a good Irish Brand if your that way inclined but in my opinion you just cant beat buying a good isolate form any of the big wholesalers!

ironscience.com
myprotein.com
bulkpowders.com

highest protein content for value of money

Ice87 wrote: »

Looking to buy a 5kg bag of whey. Can anyone recommend a flavour with myprotein as i've yet to use them. Is vanilla alright?

You cant usually go wrong with choc wherever you order from but personally i find all myprotein flavours very sweet, i like bulkpowders unflavoured for the high protein content, or vanilla or choc from ironscience both very pure and clean tasting:)

Gummy Panda · 09-03-2012 9:50am

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Sorry I forgot to reply. I got my Kinetica whey and a free shaker this morning from fsv.ie

Vanilla Kinetica whey is not bad

I got the choc Kinetica and a free shaker but the protein content in it is very low(21g in 30g scoop). Its a good Irish Brand if your that way inclined but in my opinion you just cant beat buying a good isolate form any of the big wholesalers!

ironscience.com
myprotein.com
bulkpowders.com

highest protein content for value of money

It's the right amount of protein for a choc flavoured WPC/WPI blend.

Though isolate is better. Pity MyProtein charge Irish VAT on whey

emergingstar · 09-03-2012 11:01am

Hey, im not getting enough greens into my diet. Im just wondering is there any good supplments i can take to help

Dermighty · 09-03-2012 11:33am

emergingstar wrote: »

Hey, im not getting enough greens into my diet. Im just wondering is there any good supplments i can take to help

When I make protein shakes in the morning or at night I blend them with half a head of broccoli and they still taste great.

Gummy Panda · 09-03-2012 11:40am

emergingstar wrote: »

Hey, im not getting enough greens into my diet. Im just wondering is there any good supplments i can take to help

You can buy green powders to help. MyProtein do SuperVeg XS and SuperFood XS.

Though why do you think you're not getting enough?

Dermighty · 09-03-2012 12:38pm

Optimum Nutrition banana creme is the worst Optimum flavour I've tried yet.

Should have gotten Choc mint again (unreal!)

drdeadlift · 09-03-2012 12:42pm

Dermighty wrote: »

When I make protein shakes in the morning or at night I blend them with half a head of broccoli and they still taste great.

Jeasus thats a fairly good idea!
Best flavor ON produce is prob French vanilla cream.They admitted they never bother to push it in comparison to the vanilla ice cream its miles ahead.
Might try get a few 2lb tubs is stock and do an offer on it.

meijin · 09-03-2012 12:47pm

Ice87 wrote: »

Looking to buy a 5kg bag of whey. Can anyone recommend a flavour with myprotein as i've yet to use them. Is vanilla alright?

unflavoured only!

connundrum · 09-03-2012 3:06pm

http://www.myprotein.com/ie/

Up to 50% off sale.

Grabbed a couple of boxes of protein bars and a few packs of jerky to test.

Dermighty · 09-03-2012 11:59pm

drdeadlift wrote: »

Jeasus thats a fairly good idea!
Best flavor ON produce is prob French vanilla cream.They admitted they never bother to push it in comparison to the vanilla ice cream its miles ahead.
Might try get a few 2lb tubs is stock and do an offer on it.

The chocolate mint is the best I've tried.

tried double rich chocolate (nice), chocolate mint (the best), banana cream (synthetic!), cookies and cream and strawberry (not nice).

I take BSN Syntha 6 also, which tastes amazing! I'll stop taking Syntha 6 though, 50% of the serving cals are from fat which isn't really necessary for me as I eat plenty of Olive oil anyway.

sharkey 25 · 11-03-2012 10:25pm

I am just about to finish a tub of jack3d , I don't think ill be buying another one because I don't think its a great product. I was thinking of buying some of the ingredients found in pre workout blends and making my own . Have any of Ye done this? Is it worth it?

Gummy Panda · 12-03-2012 9:54am

Kinetica whey doesn't mix well compared to bulk whey from MyProtein and Bulkpowders

marathonic · 12-03-2012 10:40am

My new post workout shake (all sourced from myProtein):

50g Whey Concentrate (Vanilla)
50g Waxy Maize Starch
5g Creatine Monohydrate
3g L-Glutamine
2g L-Lieucine

Regarding taste, it's not as bad as I was expecting. One of the ingredients doesn't seem to mix well as it leaves a slightly chalky taste and one of the others has an aftertaste that I find quite nice (but others mightn't). I can't put my fingers on which ingredient causes each of these as I've never tried them separate.

I can't comment on effectiveness yet as I only started it yesterday.

Gummy Panda · 12-03-2012 11:41am

marathonic wrote: »

My new post workout shake (all sourced from myProtein):
50g Whey Concentrate (Vanilla)

50g Waxy Maize Starch

5g Creatine Monohydrate

3g L-Glutamine

2g L-Lieucine

Regarding taste, it's not as bad as I was expecting. One of the ingredients doesn't seem to mix well as it leaves a slightly chalky taste and one of the others has an aftertaste that I find quite nice (but others mightn't). I can't put my fingers on which ingredient causes each of these as I've never tried them separate.

I can't comment on effectiveness yet as I only started it yesterday.

Waxy maize is probably making it chalky. Glutamine is more then likely the aftertaste.

marathonic · 12-03-2012 12:16pm

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Waxy maize is probably making it chalky. Glutamine is more then likely the aftertaste.

Yeah, I'd thought the Waxy Maize was the chalkiness (as you taste it a little through the whole shake). I wasn't sure whether the aftertaste was Lieucine, Glutamine or Creatine.

connundrum · 12-03-2012 1:56pm

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Kinetica whey doesn't mix well compared to bulk whey from MyProtein and Bulkpowders

Just received my order from FSV.ie with Kinetica whey and can confirm this

Oh well, lesson learned.

SuprSi · 12-03-2012 2:41pm

I'm looking for something to replace my daily mid-morning tin of tuna (and a couple of rice cakes) and was looking at the MyProtein True MRP. I've been eating tuna every weekday for the past year and I'm sick of it no so I need something to take its place that has enough protein in it. True MRP has 40g of protein, 20g of carbs and is a shake so is easy to prepare and consume.

Has anyone used it? If so, does it stop you being hungry for an hour or so and how does it taste?

sharkey 25 · 12-03-2012 6:01pm

marathonic wrote: »

My new post workout shake (all sourced from myProtein):
50g Whey Concentrate (Vanilla)

50g Waxy Maize Starch

5g Creatine Monohydrate

3g L-Glutamine

2g L-Lieucine

Regarding taste, it's not as bad as I was expecting. One of the ingredients doesn't seem to mix well as it leaves a slightly chalky taste and one of the others has an aftertaste that I find quite nice (but others mightn't). I can't put my fingers on which ingredient causes each of these as I've never tried them separate.

I can't comment on effectiveness yet as I only started it yesterday.

Do you take anything pre workout? How long does delivery from my protein take?

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