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Star Trek: Lower Decks (animated series)
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Only accusation is that it's odd to keep hanging around a thread for a show you vocally declare to hate; just so you can remind everyone you really hate the show. Cool, I guess? A show now approx 4 episodes past the point you gave up at that. It's a unique dedication of ones times & energy, I'll give you that
Why are you even still here? I'm only hanging around so I can keep tabs on the prevailing mood towards it, how/if it gets better - whereas you seemed more steadfast. 0 -
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Only accusation is that it's odd to keep hanging around a thread for a show you vocally declare to hate; just so you can remind everyone you really hate the show. Cool, I guess? A show now approx 4 episodes past the point you gave up at that. It's a unique dedication of ones times & energy, I'll give you that Why are you even still here? I'm only hanging around so I can keep tabs on the prevailing mood towards it, how/if it gets better - whereas you seemed more steadfast.
And of a show you are not watching; when you can not know the content/quality/direction it is taking, and hate animation (no anime? ouch).
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Only accusation is that it's odd to keep hanging around a thread for a show you vocally declare to hate; just so you can remind everyone you really hate the show. Cool, I guess? A show now approx 4 episodes past the point you gave up at that. It's a unique dedication of ones times & energy, I'll give you that Why are you even still here? I'm only hanging around so I can keep tabs on the prevailing mood towards it, how/if it gets better - whereas you seemed more steadfast.
I haven;t posted in this thread for weeks I believe, but because I posted in the past I still get notifications, and will read the thread because I am curious to see the comments by others who thought the show was rubbish or found faults.
Regardless whether i like the show or not I am entitled to post on the thread, and respond to a person curious why a cartoon character would have purple hair.
If you like the show then thats good, then my dislike for it should not affect your opinion, if you dont like my comments ignore them.
But as i said I knew it would not be long before someone found a reason to complain .
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Justin Credible Darts wrote: »I haven;t posted in this thread for weeks I believe, but because I posted in the past I still get notifications, and will read the thread because I am curious to see the comments by others who thought the show was rubbish or found faults.
Regardless whether i like the show or not I am entitled to post on the thread, and respond to a person curious why a cartoon character would have purple hair.
If you like the show then thats good, then my dislike for it should not affect your opinion, if you dont like my comments ignore them.
But as i said I knew it would not be long before someone found a reason to complain .
I'm not complaining, I'm just curious what you hope to gain in following a thread for a show you obviously, vocally hate. Ain't no skin off my nose, but if all you're here for is to share in some dogpiling, then it seems like a curious choice of energy for a 20 minute comedy show. Plenty of media I hate, but can't say I'd be inclined to follow a thread on Mrs. Browns Boys just to kick it around once in a while. The fine lines between discussion through constructive criticism or hate-watching I guess; but then you're not even doing the latter cos you ain't even watching the show 0 -
I'm not complaining, I'm just curious what you hope to gain in following a thread for a show you obviously, vocally hate. Ain't no skin off my nose, but if all you're here for is to share in some dogpiling, then it seems like a curious choice of energy for a 20 minute comedy show. Plenty of media I hate, but can't say I'd be inclined to follow a thread on Mrs. Browns Boys just to kick it around once in a while. The fine lines between discussion through constructive criticism or hate-watching I guess; but then you're not even doing the latter cos you ain't even watching the show
I am not sure what part of my post you had difficulty with.
I like trek, run a trek website, but because I dont like that show dont mean I cannot read the thread and comments from others and reply to posts.
And your analogy to Mrs Browns boys is ridiculous, as lower decks unlike Browns boys is not part of a franchise that I love as a whole.
Here is another thing, when lower decks finishes, I will watch the lot on fast forward, to check what logos etc appear on screen so that I can recreate for my site, plus people already have made requests of me to do lower decks wallpapers, already have one made, so I am keeping up to date on the show, will reads the threads, the news etc, but can still dislike the show and still comment.
Do you question people who dont like the notion of god, from commenting in a religion thread.
Do you question why people who hate politicians would post on a political thread.
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Justin Credible Darts wrote: »I am not sure what part of my post you had difficulty with.
I like trek, run a trek website, but because I dont like that show dont mean I cannot read the thread and comments from others and reply to posts.
And your analogy to Mrs Browns boys is ridiculous, as lower decks unlike Browns boys is not part of a franchise that I love as a whole.
Here is another thing, when lower decks finishes, I will watch the lot on fast forward, to check what logos etc appear on screen so that I can recreate for my site, plus people already have made requests of me to do lower decks wallpapers, already have one made, so I am keeping up to date on the show, will reads the threads, the news etc, but can still dislike the show and still comment.
Ooooookay so. Am I supposed to know you run a Trek site? Don't see any link in your bio or signature - am I being blind / stupid? - so not sure why you're waving it in my face like I should know better what Justin Credible Darts does with his / her spare time
Not a question of entitlement Justin, just idle curiosity why you put yourself in a position to indulge in something you don't like. If it's some kind of fan-site martyrdom, that's at least a reason.Justin Credible Darts wrote: »Do you question people who dont like the notion of god, from commenting in a religion thread.
Do you question why people who hate politicians would post on a political thread.
This is a discussion forum, where people are entitled to comment on whatever they want.
See "constructive criticism" in the post you quoted. I don't question anyone who brings "constructive" criticism, just those who Hate (not)Watch and if it's absolutely the best use of their free time
Backing out of this 'cos feels like you're waving your fandom like a shield. Not a fan of that type of Trek fandom. And I imagine everyone else in the thread is just bored by the bickering. I'll pray for you while your make your wallpapers 0 -
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But Mariner's action during the briefing were beyond insubordinate.The difference in this episode is that she suffered some actual consequences for her actions by getting transferred to command branch.
I kind of like the way her mother realized that promotion was the worst possible punishment for her.
The fact that she got promoted to Full Lieutenant for her senior staff role, kind of make me retroactively sorry for Harry Kim...yet again.
Janeway had him as a bridge officer for at least 7 years. He was essentially 6th or 7th In Command for the entire ship, and yet Janeway would never even throw him a Junior Lieutenant pip. Ops must be a thankless job on some starships
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Quarters is an obvious one. Many starship classes (including the Cerrito) make Ensigns share quarters while Lieutenant and higher get private quarters with more senior ranks get the more spacious plush ones with the nice window views. Harry already had nice quarters so no advantage for him there.
That's one element I kind of enjoyed about Lower Decks is that they managed to one-up a concept of the original TNG episode Lower Decks by tossing the junior officers into corridor bunks. They don't even get a door!
You need to work your way up from being slightly less mediocre to earn some shared quarters
Just seemed wierd that Harry never got past the Ensign stage, despite having all of the trappings of a Lieutenant aboard Voyager. Although...I guess that ship was choc full of NCOs....which means an Ensign would outrank most people there anyway....0 -
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[Deleted User] wrote: »I want to see a Gallamite
A Tholian Hive. Or the Breen without the helmet and its something completely mental that cgi would be unable to copy successfully All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.
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Would bunks be against the spirit of the Federation? Seems like giving people something fundamentally less than what they'd probably be entitled too on Earth / a Federation world isn't particularly Utopian.
Maybe Federation ships should be 99% automated, and only have a dozen sapients to act as hands-on staff. If nothing else it'd be cheaper to cast for 0 -
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Guys this is a Very Serious Scifi show, any comedy should be purely accidental:
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Starfleet is still a hierarchical meritocracy so "rank has it's privileges" is probably still a common saying in the 24th century. That or it's a little Heinleinien, "something given has no value."
I kind of like the idea that most of crew bunk this way. Makes Starfleet feel more like a space navy, which is what I always imagined it was.
I guess we got spoiled with Enterprise D. She was essentially a space cruise liner with warp nacelles 0 -
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At least they don't have to hot bunk under normal circumstances like they do on submarines. The realism issue with the shared quarters on ships in Star Trek is the number of crew compared to the size of the ship. Voyager is a bit bigger than a Nimitz class carrier but only has a crew of ~150 compared to up to 6,000.I kind of like the idea that most of crew bunk this way. Makes Starfleet feel more like a space navy, which is what I always imagined it was.
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Episode 5 : really enjoyed it! Maybe the best one yet.
Good to see other characters getting a bit more time – felt less like The Mariner and Boimler Show. Seeing the new ship was fun. Had a chuckle when it totally dwarfed the Cerritos in the opening shot.
I love that everyone's potentially suspicious of everything, like Mariner vs Boimler's girlfriend. Because of course you would be!
And a decent little swicheroo at the end. Poor Boimler.0 -
I liked that episode. Its a strong show for what it is. Liked the flashback to DS9 and the Olympic-class medical ship.
Couple of very funny moments, especially in the Turbolift and life on an exciting ship
I love my Trek ships and really liked that new style of vessel the USS Vancouver, a Parliament class ship.All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.
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I'm curious how old she is. That flashback seemed to be set not long after the events of First Contact. And it has been hinted a few times throughout the series that aside from rank, she's quite senior and was probably full Lieutenant* at some point but has been demoted for misconduct on at least one occasion.
* I'm basing that guess on her being given a promotion directly to full Lieutenant instead of Lieutenant JG in the last episode. Presuming it was an Ensign/Lt. Paris style restoration of rank as opposed to a traditional promotion.
My guess is that the Late-TNG era Grey uniform lasted well beyond the Dominion War. It was a probably a few years before they started using the colourful Generations re-tool uniform you see in Lower Decks. The Dominion War ended in 2375, which is only 5 years before the events of this show.
I imagine that the current uniform in Lower Decks is pretty new and if you flashback only a year or so earlier you'd have them in the Grey uniform.
I like your theory about her rank. It did seem odd that they jumped a rank with her, but it would be interesting if that was a *restored* rank. I wonder if they'll reveal a story of her being senior staff but then something serious happened that resulted in her demotion, her indifference to command, and possibly also the reason she's been posted on her own mother's starship. (Possibly to keep an eye on her / take care of her)
I kind of base this on the flashback at DS9. She seemed far more mellow in that flashback compared to the current time. I sense a bit of character development at play....and I like it
I feared I'd end up hating Mariner, but she was pretty good in this episode. To parrot one Youtuber (who's name I've now forgotten) Mariner feels like what Micheal Burnham *should* have been. If you had her written like Mariner, I might have actually grown to like that character.0 -
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How have we gone from Darmok and Jalad, to this level??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M53aE9jLdU
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