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READ SUMMARY IN POST 986 - Amazon.uk Post-Brexit

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  • #152
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    RasTa wrote: »
    Ordered 5 items from Amazon.co.uk yesterday. 2 just delivered now, 1 tomorrow and the final 2 it says Tuesday. Seems strange way of doing things

    They don't all necessarily come out of one warehouse.


  • #153
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Ordered something last week on amazon.co.uk, got email to say it's been shipped, so checked the tracking and it's being shipped from Germany.

    Ordered the same thing about a month ago and it shipped from the UK.

    I wonder can we still order on the UK Amazon and get shipping from Germany?


  • #154
    Calahonda52
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,561 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Government buildings wrote: »
    Even paying all the extra taxes it will still be cheaper to buy items from Amazon.uk than buy off Irish sites.

    Whatever about paying more taxes, as long as they are going into Irish Government coffers fair enough, but not if they are lining the coffers of Oliver Cromwell's descendants.
    As for Irish sites, why not shop local, bricks and mortar.?

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • #155
    Agent Avenger
    Registered Users Posts: 189 ✭✭Agent Avenger


    Several of the items dispatched today and due in the new year are being sent from Poland. I wonder is that a way to get around the customs fee or will they still be charged as they were bought off the UK site?


  • #156
    SMC92Ian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭SMC92Ian


    How is AnPost so quick for Amazon? Shipped Saturday and arrived this morning at 9... ordered from Dundrum and took a week.


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  • #157
    SMC92Ian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭SMC92Ian


    Calahonda52 wrote: »
    As for Irish sites, why not shop local, bricks and mortar.?

    Over priced.


  • #158
    harmless
    Registered Users Posts: 980 ✭✭✭harmless


    SMC92Ian wrote: »
    How is AnPost so quick for Amazon? Shipped Saturday and arrived this morning at 9... ordered from Dundrum and took a week.


    Some popular items are held in the new small warehouse in Dublin.


  • #159
    SMC92Ian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭SMC92Ian


    harmless wrote: »
    Some popular items are held in the new small warehouse in Dublin.

    There were 2 hard to get toys. Not popular.


  • #160
    VG31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭VG31


    SMC92Ian wrote: »
    How is AnPost so quick for Amazon? Shipped Saturday and arrived this morning at 9... ordered from Dundrum and took a week.

    You sure it was An Post? All deliveries in Dublin are by Amazon Logistics now who are very fast.


  • #161
    Calahonda52
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,561 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    SMC92Ian wrote: »
    Over priced.

    What about supporting local businesses and their employees?

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



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  • #162
    SMC92Ian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭SMC92Ian


    VG31 wrote: »
    You sure it was An Post? All deliveries in Dublin are by Amazon Logistics now who are very fast.

    Yes I'm not in Dublin.


  • #163
    SMC92Ian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭SMC92Ian


    Calahonda52 wrote: »
    What about supporting local businesses and their employees?

    Up my salary a good bit and I will. Sorry but I'm saving money shopping elsewhere.


  • #164
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Calahonda52 wrote: »
    Whatever about paying more taxes, as long as they are going into Irish Government coffers fair enough, but not if they are lining the coffers of Oliver Cromwell's descendants.
    As for Irish sites, why not shop local, bricks and mortar.?


    Good lord above.


  • #165
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Can anyone tell me if i order something from a uk online store before the 1st of January and it isn't shipped until after the 1st of January, will i get hit with customs and import? I would assume that as i bought before the deadline id be exempt but who the hell knows at this stage.


  • #166
    harmless
    Registered Users Posts: 980 ✭✭✭harmless


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    Can anyone tell me if i order something from a uk online store before the 1st of January and it isn't shipped until after the 1st of January, will i get hit with customs and import? I would assume that as i bought before the deadline id be exempt but who the hell knows at this stage.


    Who does the store collect VAT for?

    If the VAT you payed goes to the UK then you will still owe VAT when it enters the EU.


  • #167
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,008 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    Can anyone tell me if i order something from a uk online store before the 1st of January and it isn't shipped until after the 1st of January, will i get hit with customs and import? I would assume that as i bought before the deadline id be exempt but who the hell knows at this stage.


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115660066&postcount=141


  • #168
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    whiterebel wrote: »
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115660066&postcount=141

    Thank you, what a disaster, herself got me vouchers for a store in the uk as a Christmas gift.


  • #169
    gally74
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭gally74


    Gooey Looey wrote: »
    Just cancelled my Amazon prime membership, it was due to renew on 26th. I don't see the point now and don't see the point in signing up for prime on the EU stores as it doesn't give free shipping

    I'm going to cancel too. But I'm ok a yearly rate only 6 months in


  • #170
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    Thank you, what a disaster, herself got me vouchers for a store in the uk as a Christmas gift.


    Did she buy them back in 2019? No real excuse for not knowing Brexit is happening at this stage.


  • #171
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,104 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    Thank you, what a disaster, herself got me vouchers for a store in the uk as a Christmas gift.

    She'd be getting a good telling off...!


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  • #172
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    GarIT wrote: »
    Did she buy them back in 2019? No real excuse for not knowing Brexit is happening at this stage.

    To be fair Brexit and its intricacies have hardly been clear cut, can anyone tell me how to calculate the additional charge on an item from the uk?


  • #173
    Wheety
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,512 ✭✭✭Wheety


    Depends on the price and the item. And if the seller will deduct UK VAT and charge Irish VAT and pay this to the Irish Government.

    I don't think much changes with Amazon on lower priced items so I'll keep Prime for now.


  • #174
    SMC92Ian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭SMC92Ian


    I just ordered something for €255 off Amazon (support local it's €380!) and it'll be here on the 28th haha, just before the customs ****e starts.


  • #175
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,537 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Wheety wrote: »
    Depends on the price and the item. And if the seller will deduct UK VAT and charge Irish VAT and pay this to the Irish Government.

    Amazon UK have been paying Irish VAT since the start; once you sell over a certain amount (70k comes to mind and I'm not bothering checking...) cross-border within the EU you have to pay the local authorities

    So that bit won't change pricing, customs duties are the bit that will.


  • #176
    davetherave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,438 ✭✭✭davetherave


    L1011 wrote: »
    Amazon UK have been paying Irish VAT since the start; once you sell over a certain amount (70k comes to mind and I'm not bothering checking...) cross-border within the EU you have to pay the local authorities

    So that bit won't change pricing, customs duties are the bit that will.

    Threshold for cross border VAT is €35,000 for Ireland


  • #177
    GhostyMcGhost
    Registered Users Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭GhostyMcGhost


    SMC92Ian wrote: »
    I just ordered something for €255 off Amazon (support local it's €380!) and it'll be here on the 28th haha, just before the customs ****e starts.

    Have you not seen the state of the ports? You’d be doing very well to get it on 28th unless it comes from the rathcoole distribution centre


  • #178
    SMC92Ian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭SMC92Ian


    GhostyMcGhost wrote: »
    Have you not seen the state of the ports? You’d be doing very well to get it on 28th unless it comes from the rathcoole distribution centre

    Got a package yesterday I ordered on Friday, shipped Saturday. :) My Dad got two packages also yesterday he ordered Friday.


  • #179
    SMC92Ian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭SMC92Ian


    GhostyMcGhost wrote: »
    Have you not seen the state of the ports? You’d be doing very well to get it on 28th unless it comes from the rathcoole distribution centre

    Just to let you know that shipped yesterday from Madrid, just got delivered today, what a Christmas miracle. :D

    2p6llfHhttps://imgur.com/2p6llfH


  • #180
    emy
    Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭emy


    Just purchased a few items from Amazon UK, no import charging at the checkout, on the other hand, eBay has already introduced the import charges. Why the eBay is doing this before 1st of January?


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  • #181
    crossmolinalad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭crossmolinalad


    gally74 wrote: »
    I'm going to cancel too. But I'm ok a yearly rate only 6 months in

    i keep it for the music and the movies


  • #182
    scamalert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭scamalert


    emy wrote: »
    Just purchased a few items from Amazon UK, no import charging at the checkout, on the other hand, eBay has already introduced the import charges. Why the eBay is doing this before 1st of January?
    as most likely by the time youll get it it will be after 1st of Jan, the postal service must be defcon5 lvl at the moment will all the crap going on, so wouldnt blame ebay for implementing this in advance, as think come Jan1 whatever comes in gonna have vat+customs applied, and doubt they will care when it was shipped :cool:



    that said open for correction.


  • #183
    Quackster
    Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,842 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    crossmolinalad wrote: »
    i keep it for the music and the movies
    There's no reason to believe that free delivery will be scrapped so I don't understand why anyone who currently has Prime would be in any rush to get rid of it at this point in time.

    Assuming the deal is agreed, there won't be any customs duty so things should continue largely as-is, at least for goods sold by Amazon themselves.


  • #184
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Quackster wrote: »
    There's no reason to believe that free delivery will be scrapped so I don't understand why anyone who currently has Prime would be in any rush to get rid of it at this point in time.

    Assuming the deal is agreed, there won't be any customs duty so things should continue largely as-is, at least for goods sold by Amazon themselves.


    It isn't that simple. There will be no duty on British goods, but most things in Amazon are not British, but arrive from the Far East into an Amazon Warehouse. Whatever happens, Amazon are best placed to figure it out, compared to other sellers.


  • #185
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Quackster wrote: »
    There's no reason to believe that free delivery will be scrapped so I don't understand why anyone who currently has Prime would be in any rush to get rid of it at this point in time.

    Assuming the deal is agreed, there won't be any customs duty so things should continue largely as-is, at least for goods sold by Amazon themselves.

    If there's no deal the prices could go up so there might be no point in ordering from them delivery charge or not.


  • #186
    Quackster
    Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,842 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    GarIT wrote: »
    If there's no deal the prices could go up so there might be no point in ordering from them delivery charge or not.
    So cancel if & when prices do go up, no need to jump the gun.


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  • #187
    Quackster
    Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,842 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    It isn't that simple. There will be no duty on British goods, but most things in Amazon are not British, but arrive from the Far East into an Amazon Warehouse. Whatever happens, Amazon are best placed to figure it out, compared to other sellers.
    Such goods may have duty applied now on import into the EU, which is factored into the prices Amazon sell them for. There shouldn't be any significant cost effect there. In any case, Amazon will likely route such goods shipped to Irish addresses via EU warehouses as much as is possible/practicable.


  • #188
    emy
    Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭emy


    Brexit is such a political mess, even the British people will be affected.


  • #189
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Quackster wrote: »
    Such goods may have duty applied now on import into the EU, which is factored into the prices Amazon sell them for. There shouldn't be any significant cost effect there. In any case, Amazon will likely route such goods shipped to Irish addresses via EU warehouses as much as is possible/practicable.


    Routing them via European warehouses is a solution, which is something Amazon can do more easily than most other sellers. It would require a sort of virtual .ie Amazon though.


  • #190
    fredotf2
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭fredotf2


    So I think part of the deal that was just just reached is that there will be no tariffs between the UK and the EU. Which means we can continue to use amazon UK tariff free.


  • #191
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,008 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    fredotf2 wrote: »
    So I think part of the deal that was just just reached is that there will be no tariffs between the UK and the EU. Which means we can continue to use amazon UK tariff free.

    It has to be ratified by the EU. They don’t know if this will happen before the end of the year.


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  • #192
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,412 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    fredotf2 wrote: »
    So I think part of the deal that was just just reached is that there will be no tariffs between the UK and the EU. Which means we can continue to use amazon UK tariff free.


    No tariffs but would be VAT on items over €22.


  • #193
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    fredotf2 wrote: »
    So I think part of the deal that was just just reached is that there will be no tariffs between the UK and the EU. Which means we can continue to use amazon UK tariff free.

    No tariffs, but VAT and Duty may still apply.


  • #194
    elgicko
    Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭elgicko


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    No tariffs, but VAT and Duty may still apply.

    We already pay VAT @ Irish rate on goods from Amazon UK.

    Customs charges not applicable on orders < €150.


  • #195
    TheDriver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,575 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    elgicko wrote: »
    We already pay VAT @ Irish rate on goods from Amazon UK.

    Customs charges not applicable on orders < €150.

    So to be clear:
    VAT vs Tariffs vs Customs charges
    There must be Irish VAT applied onto UK goods as you can no longer use the "VAT was paid in a member state" line. Amazon have the mechanism to swap this out.
    There are no tarriffs to be paid.
    Customs charges: Now what is this? Is it different to paying VAT?


  • #196
    SMC92Ian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭SMC92Ian


    scamalert wrote: »
    as most likely by the time youll get it it will be after 1st of Jan, the postal service must be defcon5 lvl at the moment will all the crap going on, so wouldnt blame ebay for implementing this in advance, as think come Jan1 whatever comes in gonna have vat+customs applied, and doubt they will care when it was shipped :cool:



    that said open for correction.

    All my packages came 1-2 days. People going insane but AnPost has delivered all my packages before Christmas after having dates 28th and 3rd of Jan.


  • #197
    Quackster
    Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,842 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    TheDriver wrote: »
    So to be clear:
    VAT vs Tariffs vs Customs charges
    There must be Irish VAT applied onto UK goods as you can no longer use the "VAT was paid in a member state" line. Amazon have the mechanism to swap this out.
    There are no tarriffs to be paid.
    Customs charges: Now what is this? Is it different to paying VAT?
    Customs duties are charged according to the relevant tarrif list. The Brexit deal means there will be no tarrifs on the import of UK goods into the EU (so no customs duties) but tarrifs will apply on some third-country goods imported via the UK (just as they do now).

    'Customs charges' is just a catch-all term for all charges that may be levied on imported goods - customs duty (including anti-dumping and countervailing duties), excise duty and VAT.


  • #198
    AdrianII
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭AdrianII


    Quackster wrote: »
    Customs duties are charged according to the relevant tarrif list. The Brexit deal means there will be no tarrifs on the import of UK goods into the EU (so no customs duties) but tarrifs will apply on some third-country goods imported via the UK (just as they do now).

    'Customs charges' is just a catch-all term for all charges that may be levied on imported goods - customs duty (including anti-dumping and countervailing duties), excise duty and VAT.


    So is there no import tax or customs duty with this deal?


  • #199
    Quackster
    Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,842 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    AdrianII wrote: »
    So is there no import tax or customs duty with this deal?
    The real hassle will be buying from small businesses and private sellers as they won't be in a position to collect Irish VAT (although marketplaces like Amazon and eBay will have to do so for all their sellers from 1st July).

    In those situations, An Post or another courier will pay the VAT on your behalf and then bill you, adding on their admin fee for the privilege.


  • #200
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    So you have to be ready to scan a card into a machine when they call?


  • #201
    harmless
    Registered Users Posts: 980 ✭✭✭harmless


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    So you have to be ready to scan a card into a machine when they call?
    I would think you have to ether your card details on an email they will send you before it even goes out for delivery.


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