!! English HL 2015 - ALL things HL English, predictions, discussion etc.

LeeLee97 · 27-05-2015 6:41pm

DesuDesuChan wrote: »

And we didn't even do Dickinson/Hardy.
lololololololol /dies

What would you do if Yeats and Frosty came up?

9de5q7tsr8u2im · 27-05-2015 6:48pm

Cant express how ****ed and **** i am at poetry, can someone help i got 20 out of 50 in pres with no work i need a damn B , literally just going to use key notes

DesuDesuChan · 27-05-2015 6:52pm

LeeLee97 wrote: »

What would you do if Yeats and Frosty came up?

I'd be happy! Well, not happy. Just relieved. Who feels happy during exams?
I'd probably end up with Frost.

DarraghF197 · 27-05-2015 7:12pm

DesuDesuChan wrote: »

I'd be happy! Well, not happy. Just relieved. Who feels happy during exams?
I'd probably end up with Frost.

Only people who balance their accounts in Accounting knows how it feels to be happy in an exam!

I'll be happy if I get a choice of Hardy or Plath; jealousy or gender in Othello; and both a theme and general vision question to come up

DesuDesuChan · 27-05-2015 7:19pm

DarraghF197 wrote: »

Only people who balance their accounts in Accounting knows how it feels to be happy in an exam!

I'll be happy if I get a choice of Hardy or Plath; jealousy or gender in Othello; and both a theme and general vision question to come up

Hahah. Yeah, I'd like a jealousy question on Othello. Dreading the comparative tbh.

Patsy6546 · 27-05-2015 7:25pm

Anyone have a link to a good sample essay for literary genre? For I'm not scared, Juno and the paycock and how many miles

The_N4sir · 27-05-2015 7:34pm

Patsy6546 wrote: »

Anyone have a link to a good sample essay for literary genre? For I'm not scared, Juno and the paycock and how many miles

There is a sample essay for these texts in Key Notes if you have it

ClaireF__ · 27-05-2015 7:35pm

what are ye planning to study for Othello?

LeeLee97 · 27-05-2015 7:36pm

DarraghF197 wrote: »

Only people who balance their accounts in Accounting knows how it feels to be happy in an exam!

I'll be happy if I get a choice of Hardy or Plath; jealousy or gender in Othello; and both a theme and general vision question to come up

Good luck getting a Plath question!

ShaunDaSheep · 27-05-2015 7:45pm

is there a strong bet on the women to come up for othello ? would love a question on them to be honest

Lcstudent2015. · 27-05-2015 7:48pm

Is anyone else using "Pride & Prejudice" as their main text? If so what are you expecting to come up this year?

stevefennelly · 27-05-2015 8:38pm

So, I've only half prepared 3 poets, ENC, Montague and Hardy by learning themes and style but zero quotes. I also have about 3 quotes between my comparative and Othello and no essays prepared for either or the main 100mark essay. I got a B3 in the pre with no quotes and nothing prepared. Should I avoid learning quotes at this stage and focus on the possible topics coming up in the questions like relationships, themes, general vision, jealousy, love, hatred and characters etc. or just wing those and focus on quotes? All I want is a high C to get me into the 400s fairly handy.

DarraghF197 · 27-05-2015 8:54pm

stevefennelly wrote: »

So, I've only half prepared 3 poets, ENC, Montague and Hardy by learning themes and style but zero quotes. I also have about 3 quotes between my comparative and Othello and no essays prepared for either or the main 100mark essay. I got a B3 in the pre with no quotes and nothing prepared. Should I avoid learning quotes at this stage and focus on the possible topics coming up in the questions like relationships, themes, general vision, jealousy, love, hatred and characters etc. or just wing those and focus on quotes? All I want is a high C to get me into the 400s fairly handy.

Just when you're focusing on writing on say jealousy in Othello, apply quotes in the notes you make. Example:

Iago- sexual jealousy, thinks Othello sleeping with wife. Reason why he hates him,
"and it is thought abroad that twixt my sheets..."
Unrealistic motive, no evidence, "I know not if it be true".

stevefennelly · 27-05-2015 9:53pm

DarraghF197 wrote: »

Just when you're focusing on writing on say jealousy in Othello, apply quotes in the notes you make. Example:

Iago- sexual jealousy, thinks Othello sleeping with wife. Reason why he hates him,
"and it is thought abroad that twixt my sheets..."
Unrealistic motive, no evidence, "I know not if it be true".

So your notes are that short? Basically bullet points on the various themes and the respective quotes to compliment them? Seems like a decent system, gonna try that!

DarraghF197 · 27-05-2015 11:05pm

stevefennelly wrote: »

So your notes are that short? Basically bullet points on the various themes and the respective quotes to compliment them? Seems like a decent system, gonna try that!

Thanks, yeah sometimes I do it like that, others not! My language is usually my worst part out of the PCLM'S so sometimes I'd copy sentences online or wherever to make my points a lot stronger. It's nice to do bullet points, though. It gets rid of all that time wasted writing and reading "Iago tells us this:";"his shows that he is a manipulative character" etc.

FoxScientist · 28-05-2015 12:09pm

English: I pray that Ni Chuilleanain comes up! Only poetry I like in english, Donne Hardy and Frost may come up.

GOOD LUCK AND HAPPY 'Studying'

Kremin · 28-05-2015 12:42pm

Gambling on Frost, if he doesn't come up I'm going to have to write some BS for another poet, in the mocks I just explained the titles of Emily Dickinsons poems!

OMGeary · 28-05-2015 1:06pm

If a question about the women came up for Othello, what would the general gist of the question be

Laurenom · 28-05-2015 1:41pm

OMGeary wrote: »

If a question about the women came up for Othello, what would the general gist of the question be

Possibly how the women are shown , like does shakepeare show them in positive or negative light?
Or the role of women in the play ,

Laurentf · 28-05-2015 1:44pm

Does anyone know if I'd have enough information to get an A in my comparative if I spoke about 4-5 topics/headings (like symbolism, tension etc) I got a B in the comparative in the mocks by doing this but might've lost marks for not engaging with the question. Any advice? Is it enough points to cover?

OMGeary · 28-05-2015 1:52pm

Laurenom wrote: »

Possibly how the women are shown , like does shakepeare show them in positive or negative light?
Or the role of women in the play ,

By role of women do you mean how they are treated or what impact their actions have on the play?

ShaunDaSheep · 28-05-2015 2:07pm

OMGeary wrote: »

By role of women do you mean how they are treated or what impact their actions have on the play?

basically the question could be about the role of the 3 women in Venetian society e.g how they all come from different social backrounds but live in a male dominated society and are subject to the same prejudices .

AlfaJack · 28-05-2015 2:09pm

Just wondering how everyone here studies for English? Like I have bullet point notes all done up on my poets, othello and comparative but when I got to study I don't really know what to do other than read of the notes and learn quotes?

ShaunDaSheep · 28-05-2015 2:12pm

AlfaJack wrote: »

Just wondering how everyone here studies for English? Like I have bullet point notes all done up on my poets, othello and comparative but when I got to study I don't really know what to do other than read of the notes and learn quotes?

Something I do which really helps is recording myself saying the notes or essays and repeating it through headphones when i go to bed. I also write out the notes over and over again until I learn them

Dr.. · 28-05-2015 2:26pm

For paper 2:

Single Text: Othello
-Character of Othello
-Character of Iago
(I could do theme of jealousy from info learnt from both)

Comp:
-Literary Genre

Poets:
-Donne
-Frost
-Montague

7 days until paper 2

This enough? if not what else, thanks.

jbsbfass · 28-05-2015 2:29pm

what is the prediction to come up in the comparative? Is there any trends from the previous years? GV+V , Theme or Issue or Litery Genre?
Personally I would love of Theme or Issue came up !!!!!!

SB22 · 28-05-2015 2:33pm

I've only learned Ní Chuilleanáin , Yeats and Montague. After reading though some of the posts I'm not as confident as I was. Considering doing Frost as well now seeing as we didn't do Hardy or Donne

SB22 · 28-05-2015 2:36pm

jbsbfass wrote: »

what is the prediction to come up in the comparative? Is there any trends from the previous years? GV+V , Theme or Issue or Litery Genre?
Personally I would love of Theme or Issue came up !!!!!!

Everybody I've spoken to is expecting Theme and Lit Genre. Tbh I find lit gen to be a pain in the backside. gv and v is a lovely mode but I'm forcing myself to ignore it as it came up last year

ChloeMarrinan · 28-05-2015 2:37pm

Would it be too risky only covering Montague, Ní Chuilleanáin and Frost? Bearing in mind that my class didn't cover Dickinson or Hardy!

Dr.. · 28-05-2015 2:41pm

ChloeMarrinan wrote: »

Would it be too risky only covering Montague, Ní Chuilleanáin and Frost? Bearing in mind that my class didn't cover Dickonson or Hardy!

Throw in Donne or Yeats and you'll be sorted

OMGeary · 28-05-2015 3:20pm

Would love if Lit Gen came up

LeeLee97 · 28-05-2015 3:34pm

OMGeary wrote: »

Would love if Lit Gen came up

Agreed. So easy. 68/70 on the mocks.

robertwalsh97 · 28-05-2015 3:34pm

Seeing as a woman always comes up, would it be safe to just study ni chuilleanain, dickinson and Plath? Although I may swap Plath for frost.

Kremin · 28-05-2015 3:54pm

robertwalsh97 wrote: »

Seeing as a woman always comes up, would it be safe to just study ni chuilleanain, dickinson and Plath? Although I may swap Plath for frost.

A woman doesnt HAVE to come up. You're always risking it by studying less than 5 poets.

jbsbfass · 28-05-2015 4:01pm

I know I might be pushing my luck but has anyone a sample essay on the comparative? doesnt matter what mode it is.. its just I haven't anything done for the comparative and i'm starting to panic, so i just hope to learn of an essay or two.. Please help I would be over the moon

btw the three texts ive done are TKS, HMMTB and TGG, if you have an essay on anyone of those please let me know.. Thank you !!

davidk11811 · 28-05-2015 4:03pm

Does anyone have an example answer for a literary genre and theme question for this years comparative? (The King's Speech, Mister Pip, Translations if possible but any would do.)It'd be a great help.

leahdalton111 · 28-05-2015 4:50pm

any predictions for single text pride and prejudice?

sushua · 28-05-2015 5:22pm

Hi, I'm in the exact same position as you so know that you're not alone! I haven't done a thing all year and I'm really disappointed with myself as I know I could have done so much better than I'm going to do. But all we can do now is our best! I don't do geography so I can't help you there, but I'm just going to focus mainly on English Paper 2 for the next few days as it's my worst area.. I'm going to try and learn 4-5 poets.. montague, frost, donne, hardy and Ni chuilleanain .. I haven't a clue what to study for othello or comparative, to be honest if I pass I'll be happy!

Clodagh124 · 28-05-2015 5:29pm

We've done Donne, Ní Chuilleanáin, Hardy and Frost

I've gone through the papers and they go as far as 2003 and Ní Chuilleanáin hasnt come up at all. Frost came up in 2011, Donne in 2008 and Hardy in 2006.

Plath has come up the last two years and Yeats last year and in 2011

randylonghorn · 28-05-2015 5:36pm

AlfaJack wrote: »

Just wondering how everyone here studies for English? Like I have bullet point notes all done up on my poets, othello and comparative but when I got to study I don't really know what to do other than read of the notes and learn quotes?

Look at past questions, and plan roughly on a piece of paper how you would use what you know to answer them.

Clodagh124 wrote: »

We've done Donne, Ní Chuilleanáin, Hardy and Frost

I've gone through the papers and they go as far as 2003 and Ní Chuilleanáin hasnt come up at all. Frost came up in 2011, Donne in 2008 and Hardy in 2006.

Plath has come up the last two years and Yeats last year and in 2011

Um, isn't it Ní C.'s first year on the syllabus?

They change round the poets every couple of years.

tiernand4 · 28-05-2015 7:16pm

Anyone think Dickinson has a realistic chance of coming up ???
I study Yeats Frost Hardy Plath and Dickinson ...
I know Plath was up last year but I'm not sure about Dickinson coming up seeing as how Eil Ni C is 99% to come up

LeeLee97 · 28-05-2015 7:32pm

tiernand4 wrote: »

Anyone think Dickinson has a realistic chance of coming up ???
I study Yeats Frost Hardy Plath and Dickinson ...
I know Plath was up last year but I'm not sure about Dickinson coming up seeing as how Eil Ni C is 99% to come up

Remember in 2012 when Plath and Heaney were 99% sure to come up
Remember in 2014 when Heaney was 99% sure to come up
Remember in 2015...... Everyone has as much a chance as the next person (except Plath probably)

DarraghF197 · 28-05-2015 7:36pm

tiernand4 wrote: »

Anyone think Dickinson has a realistic chance of coming up ???
I study Yeats Frost Hardy Plath and Dickinson ...
I know Plath was up last year but I'm not sure about Dickinson coming up seeing as how Eil Ni C is 99% to come up

I'm pretty confident Dickinson will come up. Rarely do they put up the most predicable ones. I think one should be counter intuitive when predicting. Just look at the 'Pleaney' year as an example.

Dickinson has got a great chance. Ni Chuilleanáin is on next year and in a few years time. She'll come up in her own time.

Three poets that are on our course we're on last year's paper. I'm not sure when the last time this happened was, but chances are that one of those will be repeated (Yeats and Plath are unlikely this year as well, despite Yeat's anniversary).

It's quite annoying, because I find her so hard to study! Don't understand what half of her stuff means! I hope they put on Plath again. One can dream! (I'll be crying with laughter if they do, especially since I'll be the one in a hundred who would be doing her!)

jbsbfass · 28-05-2015 7:39pm

I know I might be pushing my luck but has anyone a sample essay on the comparative? doesnt matter what mode it is.. its just I haven't anything done for the comparative and i'm starting to panic, so i just hope to learn of an essay or two.. Please help I would be over the moon btw the three texts ive done are TKS, HMMTB and TGG, if you have an essay on anyone of those please let me know.. Thank you !!

LeeLee97 · 28-05-2015 7:40pm

DarraghF197 wrote: »

I'm pretty confident Dickinson will come up. Rarely do they put up the most predicable ones. I think one should be counter intuitive when predicting. Just look at the 'Pleaney' year as an example.

Dickinson has got a great chance. Ni Chuilleanáin is on next year and in a few years time. She'll come up in her own time.

Three poets that are on our course we're on last year's paper. I'm not sure when the last time this happened was, but chances are that one of those will be repeated (Yeats and Plath are unlikely this year as well, despite Yeat's anniversary).

It's quite annoying, because I find her so hard to study! Don't understand what half of her stuff means! I hope they put on Plath again. One can dream! (I'll be crying with laughter if they do, especially since I'll be the one in a hundred who would be doing her!)

Make than 2 in a hundred bud, you're not alone

DarraghF197 · 28-05-2015 7:43pm

LeeLee97 wrote: »

Make than 2 in a hundred bud, you're not alone

Haha, Plath to come every year for five years in a row!

LeeLee97 · 28-05-2015 7:46pm

DarraghF197 wrote: »

Haha, Plath to come every year for five years in a row!

Well if she comes up this year, they certainly won't be expecting her next year.

DarraghF197 · 28-05-2015 7:53pm

LeeLee97 wrote: »

Well if she comes up this year, they certainly won't be expecting her next year.

Yeah that's the horrible thing about it. I would have expected her to come up if she wasn't on it the year after. They'd probably run out of ideas for what question to ask!

Anonymagician · 28-05-2015 7:56pm

LeeLee97 wrote: »

Well if she comes up this year, they certainly won't be expecting her next year.

This is the issue with her coming up (if she does) three years in a row. Where do they stop?! Plath to become a staple? WHO KNOWS

IrishLoriii · 28-05-2015 9:01pm

For the comparative I have to ask- How do you guys study this??
Ive chosen a theme that works with all of them and chosen key scenes that highlight
this theme and chosen key quotes that highlight the complexity of this issue but to be honest
I have no clue how to study the comparative?? I can compare really well when I know what im
comparing

My comparatives are Juno and the paycock, how many miles to Babylon and the kings
speech and Im really hoping for an A. The theme chosen is relationships.

!! English HL 2015 - ALL things HL English, predictions, discussion etc.

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