GRO Records

Hermy · 13-10-2016 11:22am

tabbey wrote: »

Mercer's Hospital.

The flourishing capital M is confusing you.

Well spotted tabbey - I'd go with that.

pedroeibar1 · 13-10-2016 11:25am

I was alluding to the Sandycove area.... but I agree that it's Mercers, the downstroke of the Y should not have been ignored.

Leeside · 16-10-2016 12:27pm

Is there any way just to view an individual record (not the full page of entries). I want to print off the actual record I'm interested in - like the research record you would get from the GRO.

I can print off the full page,scan it, crop it and then print the record but is there a faster way?

pinkypinky · 16-10-2016 12:40pm

No, there's no way other than what you're doing - unless you want to pay them.

Hermy · 16-10-2016 1:37pm

You could do a screen grab and crop that.
Then you'd only be printing the part you need.

pinkypinky · 16-10-2016 3:32pm

Actually, what Hermy does is what I do - I don't print things at all.

Hermy · 16-10-2016 4:01pm

I've often wondered should I print my records in case some technological disaster should erase my digital records.

pinkypinky · 16-10-2016 7:35pm

Make regular back-ups. I have a certain amount printed but it's never the most up to date version.

Leeside · 16-10-2016 8:10pm

Hermy wrote: »

You could do a screen grab and crop that.
Then you'd only be printing the part you need.

Yes, I've tried that but it's a little complicated to include the District Office details from the top of the page and the actual record itself which may be half way down the page. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think there's a straightforward way to cut or delete selective portions from a Paint screen.

I like to have hard copy of each record so I print off the full page and fold it in such a way that the District details are just above the actual record. I then scan, save and print it to fit the full page. It works very well but it's time consuming. I was hoping there would be an easier way.

I back up all my records every few months but will the computers in 50 to 100 years time be able to read them? Maybe I'm old fashioned but I also find paper records easier to browse though.

KildareFan · 16-10-2016 11:41pm

The easiest way to save the record you want is to use the "snipping tool" - in Microsoft windows. You may have this already on your computer if not go to https://support.microsoft.com/en-ie/help/13776/windows-use-snipping-tool-to-capture-screenshots which tells you how to download & use.

I use this for snipping newspaper extracts, bits from the BMD records and various other bits and pieces.

leck · 18-10-2016 12:26am

Leeside wrote: »

Yes, I've tried that but it's a little complicated to include the District Office details from the top of the page and the actual record itself which may be half way down the page. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think there's a straightforward way to cut or delete selective portions from a Paint screen.

I like to have hard copy of each record so I print off the full page and fold it in such a way that the District details are just above the actual record. I then scan, save and print it to fit the full page. It works very well but it's time consuming. I was hoping there would be an easier way.

I back up all my records every few months but will the computers in 50 to 100 years time be able to read them? Maybe I'm old fashioned but I also find paper records easier to browse though.

I do what KildareFan does and just snip the individual record, but you have a good point about including the district office details from the top of the page. I suppose you could do both, using the print function for the whole page and the MS Snipping Tool to snip the individual record.

I like to store all the snips using a similar name format. For example bir_ for births, dea_ for deaths and marr_ for marriages. I don't include the full date as it's a bit tedious, instead I might have bir_Keane Joe_1878. I'm a bit inconsistent with first names as I will sometimes already have a name like Joe Keane from the census, then find he was registered as Joseph Keane.

KildareFan · 18-10-2016 10:19am

I save the complete record page as a PDF with a file name like John Smith birth 1885.pdf - that way you have the details on top of the page.

I also maintain a word file for each family group. I copy & paste the record snips into the file under the person's name, with the index details. I add information as I find it under each person's name, so I have a chronological account, starting with birth/baptism, marriage/death/ & anything that happens in between. I use headings & sub headings and the navigation tool in Word to find people in the document.

Leeside · 19-10-2016 10:30pm

KildareFan wrote: »

The easiest way to save the record you want is to use the "snipping tool" - in Microsoft windows. You may have this already on your computer if not go to https://support.microsoft.com/en-ie/help/13776/windows-use-snipping-tool-to-capture-screenshots which tells you how to download & use.

I use this for snipping newspaper extracts, bits from the BMD records and various other bits and pieces.

That's a very handy tool and just what I was looking for. Two separate snips copied and pasted into a Word document works a treat. Way faster than my old method.

L1011 · 20-10-2016 10:55am

Word is a very, very unreliable way to storage image data. It will - without doubt - be mangled going between Word versions.

pinkypinky · 20-10-2016 11:06am

I agree: pdf or jpeg is my preferred format.

KildareFan · 20-10-2016 11:31am

pinkypinky wrote: »

I agree: pdf or jpeg is my preferred format.

I still haven't found the perfect solution to storing/archiving/retrieving all the information I have.

I save the original image from Irishgenealogy/Ancestry/Findmypast as a PDF or jpeg or whatever the original format is & try to give it a useful name so I can find it again.

I also keep a separate record in word with the narrative details and snippets from the record. It's useful to check on transcriptions which can be wrong. I wish some of those clerks had been more careful with their writing.

I've had the problem of big word documents getting mangled, so I keep saving new versions with the date saved - if the document gets totally mangled, I can always go back to the earlier version. The word document helps to keep track of different pieces of information in one space - I use headings to navigate the document which makes it easier.

I also have excel files for each family.... as well as storing some information on family trees on Ancestry....

Leeside · 20-10-2016 12:08pm

L1011 wrote: »

Word is a very, very unreliable way to storage image data. It will - without doubt - be mangled going between Word versions.

I totally agree. I should have added to my earlier email that I always convert the finished Word document to a PDF file.

Some of the GRO research copies I received in the past have not been great to say the least so I scanned those as jpg (high resolution), and edited them in Picasa. I find this to be a good programme for cropping and especially for straightening the page. Also handy for adding text. I then convert the edited jpg to PDF.

I have over two hundred copy GRO certs and I made a mistake in naming the files say Birth_Forename_Surname instead of Surname_Forename_Birth. I need to change the order on all my records to make searching easier. It's just another job on the "to do" list.

pinkypinky · 23-10-2016 8:29pm

Irishgenealogy.ie seems to be down - anyone else getting that?

montgo · 23-10-2016 8:35pm

Working fine for me.

rhapsody · 23-10-2016 8:39pm

Down for me too

mickmackey1 · 23-10-2016 9:00pm

no problems here

Waitsian · 23-10-2016 9:04pm

pinkypinky wrote: »

Irishgenealogy.ie seems to be down - anyone else getting that?

I'm getting this message:

'Error displaying the error page: Application Instantiation Error: Could not connect to MySQL.'

leck · 23-10-2016 9:07pm

pinkypinky wrote: »

Irishgenealogy.ie seems to be down - anyone else getting that?

Working fine for me.

pinkypinky · 23-10-2016 9:12pm

Obviously something is up. I cleared my browser history and rebooted and it worked from a saved bookmark, but not from the main url.

Waitsian · 23-10-2016 9:26pm

pinkypinky wrote: »

Obviously something is up. I cleared my browser history and rebooted and it worked from a saved bookmark, but not from the main url.

Use this link pinky. It and civil records are accessible. Home, News, Feedback, Useful Links and Research however are not.

https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/

whosedaddy? · 26-10-2016 10:24am

Has anyone recently ordered photocopies from Roscommon? How long can I expect it to take?
I presume they do not confirm receipt of an order?

Thanks,
/WD

pinkypinky · 26-10-2016 10:59am

I got some in about 4 working days this week.

whosedaddy? · 26-10-2016 12:01pm

thanks. I guess then they may not have gotten my order.. need to call them

mickmackey1 · 27-10-2016 10:32pm

Is it generally believed that the church records are more accurate than the state ones, in the sense that there was a fine for late registration with the state, meaning that dates were invented to avoid the fine? I've seen a couple of instances where the official dates of relatives diverge from 'traditional' dates, and those being nearly always later.

pinkypinky · 27-10-2016 10:36pm

Well, only in the case of baptism vs birth registration. Almost all marriages would have taken place in a church.

mickmackey1 · 27-10-2016 10:44pm

Indeed so. Difficult to know what % may be inaccurate from this distance anyhow.

tabbey · 28-10-2016 10:30pm

Civil registration of a marriage was the responsibility of the priest or celebrant. If the priest made errors in the parish register, they were usually repeated in the civil register.

One of my great grandparents marriages had errors in the state register, chiefly the christian name of the groom's father, which was wrongly recorded as the same as that of the bride's father. When I tracked down the parish register, I saw they were identical.

In this case the priest was the bride's uncle, perhaps he had something stronger than altar wine, at the reception.

Jellybaby1 · 30-10-2016 11:54pm

I'm almost worn out with my own trees, I've had so much joy filling empty branches. Now I'm filling up my in-law's trees but am hampered by quite a good number of the records not linking to the correct page. Anyone know if feedback is making any difference or will corrections be made at all?

Hermy · 31-10-2016 12:30am

I don't know about the feed back Jelly but I share your joy in being able to fill in so many gaps in my tree.
Mistakes of my own and in the transcribed indexes have been rectified and lots of minor issues have been resolved - issues that would have been almost impossible to resolve prior to the certs being made freely available.
Now I just hope we won't be left waiting too long for the remaining certs to be made available on line.

BowWow · 27-12-2016 4:10pm

When will the 100 year old births, 75 year old marriages and 50 year old deaths update in 2017?

pinkypinky · 27-12-2016 4:16pm

It was totally random this year so I don't think we can rely on a particular date.

BowWow · 27-12-2016 4:30pm

pinkypinky wrote: »

It was totally random this year so I don't think we can rely on a particular date.

Thank you. I'm assuming the records are already digitalised? and if so there's no reason why they couldn't be "switched on" say Jan 01 or 02?

pinkypinky · 27-12-2016 5:52pm

Oh they are all digitised for sure.

Boscod · 28-12-2016 9:33am

Any update on when the older marriage and death records will be made available?

spurious · 28-12-2016 11:06am

I'm wondering when the upload of the currently available certs will be finished. Very frustrating to find a record and then no image, especially if you are trawling forty or so to check the name of the informant on a death, or woitnesses on a marriage.

That said, it's remarkable how easy most of them are to access, considering the trouble you have to go to to find a death cert. in the US for example. A nice job by the NLI.

pinkypinky · 28-12-2016 11:51am

There's no magic hotline to the GRO to find these things out. The last time I asked someone I was basically told it would happen when it happened. I would hope that there is a reduction of orders to the GRO, which should free up more people to work on the transcriptions, etc.

tabbey · 28-12-2016 4:54pm

spurious wrote: »

I'm wondering when the upload of the currently available certs will be finished. Very frustrating to find a record and then no image, especially if you are trawling forty or so to check the name of the informant on a death, or woitnesses on a marriage.

That said, it's remarkable how easy most of them are to access, considering the trouble you have to go to to find a death cert. in the US for example. A nice job by the NLI.

Nothing to do with NLI, it is the GRO.

spurious · 28-12-2016 9:35pm

tabbey wrote:

Nothing to do with NLI, it is the GRO.

My mistake. Great job anyway.

BowWow · 05-05-2017 8:06pm

pinkypinky wrote: »

There's no magic hotline to the GRO to find these things out. The last time I asked someone I was basically told it would happen when it happened. I would hope that there is a reduction of orders to the GRO, which should free up more people to work on the transcriptions, etc.

Any news on this?

pinkypinky · 07-05-2017 7:20pm

None I've heard of. A few months ago I was told it would be a couple of months...but you never know!

eqwjewoiujqorj · 07-05-2017 11:38pm

I inquired about some images been missing from 1940 marriages and the reply I got was:

The next year of data will be added soon and that should cover that issue.

So, soon!

pinkypinky · 08-05-2017 9:18am

Not holding my breath!

josip · 24-05-2017 8:55am

They probably won't add all of the remaining deaths and marriages when they do the next update.

Waitsian · 24-05-2017 9:48am

I say this half in earnest and half in jest but any chance Admin could lock this until we get an official announcement. Every time anyone posts in this thread my heart starts to race only to have my spirit crushed when it's another query. :rolleyes:

Edit: I intend no disrespect to anyone, especially josip, who just happened to be the latest poster!

Hermy · 24-05-2017 10:06am

mod9maple wrote: »

I say this half in earnest and half in jest but any chance Admin could lock this until we get an official announcement. Every time anyone posts in this thread my heart starts to race only to have my spirit crushed when it's another query. :rolleyes:

I was thinking the same thing.:)

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