Handwriting decipher thread *must post link to full page*

Could it be Pius, after the Pope?

Sallins?

It is quite reasonable for a middle class couple to marry in the Jesuit church at Upper Gardiner Street and have a reception in the city, where guests can travel from different areas, and stay overnight.

It is only a tradition that people married in the bride's home church, it was not compulsory, although when my sister married in a neighbouring parish, the parish priest gave her some grief, probably because it was setting a trend, marrying in a traditional (Puginesque) church rather than a modern monstrosity.

A lot of couples got married in Dublin, because before they had cars, it was difficult to get from one provincial town to another unless it was on the same railway line, whereas all routes went to Dublin.

It was also popular, if the honeymoon was to be outside Ireland, for the marriage to be in Dublin city for access to the boats at North Wall, or in Kingstown for a quick walk to the malboat.

In the case of the Shortt marriage, although Mr Shortt was Clerk of the Celbridge Union, and would have got the GSWR train from Hazelhatch to Kingsbridge, same as the family from Sallins, Shortt himself was born at Rathcoffey, and his family would have got the MGWR train from Kilcock or Maynooth to Broadstone.

Great info, Tabbey.

Sorry to take this off-topic slightly, but an interesting find about this family:

While I've seen plenty of instances of a child being given the name of a previous sibling who'd died, I'd never before seen three children born in the same family given the same name. It appears that the Short family, as well as Francis B1865, had two boys called Patrick, B1864 & B1871 who died, and called a 3rd, B1875, Patrick as well. I've found the 3 births, but neither of the deaths. To be sure they're the same, each is born to Patrick Short and wife Mary, nee Ennis, all of either Castlebrown, or neighbouring Mainham, between Clane & Rathcoffey.

A tough pill to swallow.

spurious wrote: »

Shock and haemorrhage following laceration of the brain and multiple wounds caused by bullet(s?)
Oh dear.

Agree - I have seen many similar while researching a family member who also died in the Civil War which was raging at this particular time - and also the more clinical descriptions of the cause of death of those executed by the Free State at the same time. It makes difficult reading and it's easy to see why the emotional scars extended for generations afterwards.

I'm trying to make out the cause of death for the first entry here: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1895/05937/4686687.pdf

Also just a few quick questions. If a married 41 year old woman had her cause of death recorded as haemorrhage lasting 12 hours, could it be assumed that it may have been caused by a miscarriage? There was no birth or death of a child recorded. It was four years after the birth of her last recorded child. This lady had seven daughters. The first died from weakness at birth, the third died before she was 4 but I haven't found a death record, the 4th died when she 6 from debility, and the 5th died aged 19 from TB. I know that four of her own siblings died young with one aged 26 from TB, another aged 15 from decay, another aged 32 from TB and another at 3 months. It makes me wonder if they were a bit delicate. Her mother made it to 81 though. She had a brother that made it to 63 who had rheumatism for 6 years and I don't know what happened to her 3 other siblings.

In a 6 year old with a cause of death being debility with the illness lasting 2 days, what could this be? In a 14 year old what would decay lasting 2 years be due to? It seems like they might have had an illness that they didn't have a name for back then like cancer or a virus or something.

pinkypinky wrote: »

Dropsy

Thank you so much! No wonder it didn't jump out at me as a recognisable word.

Great detective work, Hermy and Spurious