FF/FG/Green Next Government

FrancieBrady · 15-06-2020 10:12pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Varadkar has done a decent job imo. And it's no surprise he is preferred over Martin.

People still have dark memories of Brian Cowen I reckon.

The fall for FG when it comes will be all the more spectacular.

15-06-2020 10:12pm

https://twitter.com/fiachkelly/status/1272633522617044992

Abstentions already.

Some of these green TDs may long for a cosy back bench seat without responsibility for a few years.

Somebody better tell them "Yiz are in too deep to stop now lads"

For Forks Sake · 15-06-2020 10:12pm

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Only problem with another election is that it could backfire if SF run more candidates and win more seats. Their support seems higher then I would have thought in latest poles. So likely they have a lot of people who will vote for them again.

Their vote management history when they've run mutliple candidates is not good. They managed to lose a seat in Donegal of all places in 2016 splitting the vote all wrong. They should consult with the Healy-Raes on how to carve up a constituency efficiently

Loafing Oaf · 15-06-2020 10:13pm

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Only problem with another election is that it could backfire for FG if SF run more candidates and win more seats. Their support seems higher then I would have thought in latest poles. So likely they have a lot of people who will vote for them again.

And if polling during the campaign indicated SF would be leading the next government, FG would be absolutely crucified by middle class voters for handing over the country to SF when there was a centrist coalition deal on the table...

jam_mac_jam · 15-06-2020 10:22pm

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

And if polling during the campaign indicated SF would be leading the next government, FG would be absolutely crucified by middle class voters for handing over the country to SF when there was a centrist coalition deal on the table...

Yeah and then its FF and SF. A complete nightmare.

antimatterx · 15-06-2020 10:26pm

For Forks Sake wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1272624471992664068

If you're FG, you start praying to your deity of choice that the FF or Greens grassroots reject the PFG, thus achieving a new election without having seen to have been the cause of it. They can just so "we tried, not our fault them over there caused it to fail"

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1272623592166100993

The #notmytaoiseach brigade will be spitting feathers this evening

Trust me, we are!

Shefwedfan · 15-06-2020 10:27pm

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Their vote management history when they've run mutliple candidates is not good. They managed to lose a seat in Donegal of all places in 2016 splitting the vote all wrong. They should consult with the Healy-Raes on how to carve up a constituency efficiently

Mary Lou has failed in both election. IN the locals she got hammered. In the General she didnt figure out prior to election how many to run. Who really thinks she will do any better?

Also the manifesto they had was awful, if another election it would be put under the microscope and it would quickly fall to pieces.

Eric Cartman · 15-06-2020 10:29pm

FG should just hope the greens or FF don't let this get over the line, go back to the polls and get in on their own or with the backing of indys or SD. This charade has gone on long enough now.

FrancieBrady · 15-06-2020 10:29pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Mary Lou has failed in both election. IN the locals she got hammered. In the General she didnt figure out prior to election how many to run. Who really thinks she will do any better?

Also the manifesto they had was awful, if another election it would be put under the microscope and it would quickly fall to pieces.

Holding steady at 25% of the vote, yet FF on 14% even going into coaltion.

Shefwedfan · 15-06-2020 10:31pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Holding steady at 25% of the vote, yet FF on 14% even going into coaltion.

Polls count for nothing

nc6000 · 15-06-2020 10:32pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

FG should chance going back to the people according to those poll results

Yes but even with these poll results wouldn't they still need a coalition partner like FF anyway?

FrancieBrady · 15-06-2020 10:34pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Polls count for nothing

Don't be silly...they'll factor into FF membership thinking, make no mistake. They'll also make FG membership cocky...loads to play out here yet.

Shefwedfan · 15-06-2020 10:35pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

FG should just hope the greens or FF don't let this get over the line, go back to the polls and get in on their own or with the backing of indys or SD. This charade has gone on long enough now.

FG go to the polls.....bring up Childrens hospital, broadband, HSE mess, housing etc and see how long the bump in poll last

Another election and it will be back to exactly the same as now.

Shefwedfan · 15-06-2020 10:36pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Don't be silly...they'll factor into FF membership thinking, make no mistake. They'll also make FG membership cocky...loads to play out here yet.

Your like a broken record....

Watch this to cheer yourself up

https://www.facebook.com/odran.obrien/videos/3452753968164836/

ricero · 15-06-2020 10:37pm

Dont know where the money will come for this programme.

Sinn fein are always ridiculed for the magic money tree. I see worse spoofery here just as we are about to enter a recession.

ninebeanrows · 15-06-2020 10:37pm

As alluded to above even if FG won 60-65 seats in an election, they’d need a partner and its hard to see who would go, Greens maybe again but that isn’t a stable government

ninebeanrows · 15-06-2020 10:40pm

If greens flake out it’ll still be a FG FF minority and some indos support

ricero · 15-06-2020 10:41pm

Pearse Doherty ripping Thomas Byrne to shreds on The Tonight Show now.

Eric Cartman · 15-06-2020 10:42pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

FG go to the polls.....bring up Childrens hospital, broadband, HSE mess, housing etc and see how long the bump in poll last

Another election and it will be back to exactly the same as now.

after covid the national broadband plan will sail through unopposed. Anyone voting green should really support it as its probably our best tool for cutting Road transport emissions.

FrancieBrady · 15-06-2020 10:42pm

ricero wrote: »

Pearse Doherty ripping Thomas Byrne to shreds on The Tonight Show now.

I think it's commonly called 'a new one'.

antimatterx · 15-06-2020 10:43pm

ricero wrote: »

Pearse Doherty ripping Thomas Byrne to shreds on The Tonight Show now.

He really isn't.

ednwireland · 15-06-2020 10:43pm

ricero wrote: »

Pearse Doherty ripping Thomas Byrne to shreds on The Tonight Show now.

pearse couldn't rip his way out of a wet paper bag.

Shefwedfan · 15-06-2020 10:46pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

after covid the national broadband plan will sail through unopposed. Anyone voting green should really support it as its probably our best tool for cutting Road transport emissions.

It was still a disaster, the fact Eir came out after the deal to say they could do for 1 billion instead of 3...also the reason all the supplier dropped out was because FG handed all the good sites to Eir, all that will come back up.....

Shefwedfan · 15-06-2020 10:47pm

ricero wrote: »

Pearse Doherty ripping Thomas Byrne to shreds on The Tonight Show now.

Doubt it....I would switch over but couldnt be bothered. Will be usual SF throwing mud and nothing to back it up.......boring

ednwireland · 15-06-2020 10:48pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

It was still a disaster, the fact Eir came out after the deal to say they could do for 1 billion instead of 3...also the reason all the supplier dropped out was because FG handed all the good sites to Eir, all that will come back up.....

except they couldn't do the national broadband plan as described for 1 billion. just their version of it.

StackSteevens · 15-06-2020 10:48pm

ricero wrote: »

Pearse Doherty ripping Thomas Byrne to shreds on The Tonight Show now.

Good old Pearse - practicing what he'll be doing for the next five years in the Dáil.

To (slightly) misquote Shakespeare: " ...an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing!"

smurgen · 15-06-2020 10:49pm

StackSteevens wrote: »

Good old Pearse - practicing what he'll be doing for the next five years in the Dáil.

To (slightly) misquote Shakespeare: " ...an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing!"

Wouldn't call him and idiot by any measure.

FrancieBrady · 15-06-2020 10:50pm

StackSteevens wrote: »

Good old Pearse - practicing what he'll be doing for the next five years in the Dáil.

To (slightly) misquote Shakespeare: " ...an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing!"

Yes, Thomas had to lie through his teeth at the end to try and land a punch. Gas.

bennyl10 · 15-06-2020 10:50pm

ricero wrote: »

Pearse Doherty ripping Thomas Byrne to shreds on The Tonight Show now.

You’ve never seen someone ripped to shreds before hve you?

This was just more example of why SF aren’t in government. Lots of bluster and attacks, no actual substance.

Shefwedfan · 15-06-2020 10:52pm

ednwireland wrote: »

except they couldn't do the national broadband plan as described for 1 billion. just their version of it.

Ahh but your average Joe soap doesn't give a sh*t about the detail.

Look at the SF supporters on here, pages and pages about how great they are. Then you ask them about the election manifesto and they never even read it. That's the Irish voter :P

JohnnyFlash · 15-06-2020 10:52pm

antimatterx wrote: »

He really isn't.

Shouting and fake outrage seems to impress SF supporters.

FrancieBrady · 15-06-2020 10:53pm

bennyl10 wrote: »

You’ve never seen someone ripped to shreds before hve you?

This was just more example of why SF aren’t in government. Lots of bluster and attacks, no actual substance.

By anyone's standards that was cringe for Thomas...even Matt was enjoying his discomfort.

Shefwedfan · 15-06-2020 10:53pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes, Thomas had to lie through his teeth at the end to try and land a punch. Gas.

smurgen wrote: »

Wouldn't call him and idiot by any measure.

After this I would be tempted to watch, but I couldn't be bothered. Standard SF....hot air and nothing else :P:P

smurgen · 15-06-2020 10:55pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

After this I would be tempted to watch, but I couldn't be bothered. Standard SF....hot air and nothing else :P:P

Made good points. But you wouldn't know.you didn't watch.

StackSteevens · 15-06-2020 10:55pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes, Thomas had to lie true his teeth at the end to try and land a punch. Gas.

And, in much the same way as Pearse - albeit for a lot less money - poor auld Francie will be ranting and blathering pointlessly away on Boards.ie for the next five years too! An appalling vista!

I'm strongly considering putting him on 'ignore' for the next 5 years, as he's highly unlikely to write anything intelligent, instructive or interesting.

Shefwedfan · 15-06-2020 10:56pm

smurgen wrote: »

Made good points. But you wouldn't know.you didn't watch.

Well if you think they are good points, I know it is a complete waste of time to watch

Snow Garden · 15-06-2020 10:58pm

The real program for government wont be decided until the government know the true extent of the economic crisis early next year.
It's only then that the tough funding decisions will be made. I expect the next budget to be a soft one but after 30bn of borrowing in 2020, all bets will be off in 2021.

I am just delighted that FF and FG are in coalition and we can put an end to the civil war politics nonsense.

antimatterx · 15-06-2020 10:58pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Shouting and fake outrage seems to impress SF supporters.

Honestly. They hear shouting, but they don't actually listen to what is being said.

StackSteevens · 15-06-2020 10:58pm

smurgen wrote: »

Wouldn't call him and idiot by any measure.

A complete and utter spoofer - as well as being so congenitally stupid that he thought he was a civil engineer until it was gently pointed out to him that he hadn't finished the course!

https://www.thejournal.ie/sinn-feins-doherty-forced-to-clarify-job-qualifications-78067-Feb2011/

FrancieBrady · 15-06-2020 11:00pm

StackSteevens wrote: »

And, in much the same way as Pearse - albeit for a lot less money - poor auld Francie will be ranting and blathering pointlessly away on Boards.ie for the next five years too! An appalling vista!

I'm strongly considering putting him on 'ignore' for the next 5 years, as he's highly unlikely to write anything intelligent, instructive or interesting.

We know this country is too full of those who think they should be let run the country unhindered and that opposition is a waste of time (unless it is them gamboling off into it like spring lambs to 'enjoy' it

)

Ignore away, you clearly aren't able for debate.

Loafing Oaf · 15-06-2020 11:00pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

By anyone's standards that was cringe for Thomas...

It's never 'by anyone's standards' though. Online commentary on these debates is always along tribal lines...

smurgen · 15-06-2020 11:02pm

bennyl10 wrote: »

You’ve never seen someone ripped to shreds before hve you?

This was just more example of why SF aren’t in government. Lots of bluster and attacks, no actual substance.

There's nothing in what's being proposed by the coalition government that looks like a firm commitment to tackle the issues that gave rise to SF swell in support. There's a few vague rebrandings of preexisting commitments e.g commitment to tackle insurance fraud. Leaving out SF unless these parties make a commitment to tackle the real big issues housing and health they'll be wiped out in a comprehensive fashion next time.

JohnnyFlash · 15-06-2020 11:02pm

StackSteevens wrote: »

A complete and utter spoofer - as well as being so congenitally stupid that he thought he was a civil engineer until it was gently pointed out to him that he hadn't finished the course!

https://www.thejournal.ie/sinn-feins-doherty-forced-to-clarify-job-qualifications-78067-Feb2011/

Pearse isn’t the worst of the Shinnera by the admittedly low standards you’d expect from SF.

He’s not a clever man though.

flazio · 15-06-2020 11:03pm

Sinn Fein, well done for leveling the playing field, but you forgot to tog out and play on the field.

Shefwedfan · 15-06-2020 11:03pm

StackSteevens wrote: »

A complete and utter spoofer - as well as being so congenitally stupid that he thought he was a civil engineer until it was gently pointed out to him that he hadn't finished the course!

https://www.thejournal.ie/sinn-feins-doherty-forced-to-clarify-job-qualifications-78067-Feb2011/

Useless f**ker even got fined last time for not attending. Absolute waste of space

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/eight-politicians-denied-full-allowance-over-poor-attendance-1.3949510

Not going to bring around much "change" sitting on his ass at home

StackSteevens · 15-06-2020 11:04pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

We know this country is too full of those who think they should be let run the country unhindered and that opposition is a waste of time (unless it is them gamboling off into it like spring lambs to 'enjoy' it )

Ignore away, you clearly are able for debate.

Quoted you before you rectified your blooper!

Francie, you are the weakest link; goodbye.

smurgen · 15-06-2020 11:05pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Well if you think they are good points, I know it is a complete waste of time to watch

Cringe.

FrancieBrady · 15-06-2020 11:06pm

StackSteevens wrote: »

Quoted you before you rectified your blooper!

Francie, you are the weakest link; goodbye.

Ah. My typo facilitated you ignoring the post. Bravo.

dundalkfc10 · 15-06-2020 11:09pm

The Greens are a bigger shambles already.

No chance will they get 2/3 majority.

smurgen · 15-06-2020 11:11pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Useless f**ker even got fined last time for not attending. Absolute waste of space

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/eight-politicians-denied-full-allowance-over-poor-attendance-1.3949510

Not going to bring around much "change" sitting on his ass at home

Imagine what you must think of Eoghan Murphy (8th count) or Simon Harris (15th count lol) two of the worst most incompetent lumps in memory. Their only ability is being too thick to quit.

FF/FG/Green Next Government

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