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AC/DC New album and Tour.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    scudzilla wrote: »
    Axl rose from 29yrs ago and todays Axl are 2 totally different beasts

    Yeah that's true now that you mention it. I still think it'd be interesting though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    I got that Concert from TTD a while back, they played that in the encore, and it was definitely when Axl (and the rest of the band) were beginning to head into their peak. Amazing performance whether or not you like them. - Also worth downloading now, very good quality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,121 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    Allyall wrote: »
    If it does happen, i'll be very surprised if it lasts.

    and...



    :D:D:D

    Jaysus. I've heard more musical ability from people getting sick than those two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭GAAman


    Axl rose.......axl f*cking rose?!?!?!

    :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    I cant stand Axl just something about that prick. Time to call it a day Angus.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭McDave


    jonon9 wrote: »
    I cant stand Axl just something about that prick. Time to call it a day Angus.

    AC/DC simply won't be AC/DC anymore. It won't be a decision based on music.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,224 ✭✭✭✭briany


    McDave wrote: »
    AC/DC simply won't be AC/DC anymore. It won't be a decision based on music.

    Trouble is that there's been people who've said this since Bon died. You'll get real hardcore fans of the band in Australia who simply lost interest when that happened and will use much the same line. Whether an individual accepts the band, using a certain lineup, as being AC/DC is all very, very subjective. AC/DC will be AC/DC until they stop functioning under that name. Whether people will want to listen is another matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭McDave


    briany wrote: »
    Trouble is that there's been people who've said this since Bon died. You'll get real hardcore fans of the band in Australia who simply lost interest when that happened and will use much the same line. Whether an individual accepts the band, using a certain lineup, as being AC/DC is all very, very subjective. AC/DC will be AC/DC until they stop functioning under that name. Whether people will want to listen is another matter.

    They certainly changed after Bon died, although a fundamental change was already well under way when they retained Mutt Lange. They weren't going to stay the same even had Bon lived on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,224 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Seeing the Coachella Rosie clip, Axl does have the pipes to pull off an AC/DC show. Whether he has the temperament is another thing, because the band's legacy has already gained an unwelcome tarnish from this last month and a bit. It doesn't need the added much of late starts, Axl rants and mini meltdowns. It's possible that there could be a fairly vocal contingent of some AC/DC audiences bad-mouthing Axl at these gigs. If that comes to pass, it would be interesting to see how Axl handles it.

    I'm already seeing criticism about how AC/DC are money grubbing and so forth. TBH, if they were that, truly, then they wouldn't have hired Axl Rose to do these shows, because the man is not known for his low price tag. I'm sure he's a massive fan of AC/DC and excited to sing with them, but I don't think his ego would let him lowball his perceived worth just for that reason.

    But hiring Axl for these gigs comes across as a big old Rock love-in, which is saddening. They're reaching for the icon, rather than plucking someone out of obscurity. On the one hand, this is understandable because I think they're trying to give these remaining shows a bit of box office oomph, but it's also out of step with their unassuming working-class roots.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Red King


    You AC/DC fans crack me up. It is like as if you are stuck in a time bubble from 1993 or earlier the way you talk about Axl Rose.

    He's a pussycat these days in comparison to his younger days. You do realise that he has performed countless tours in the past decade with all but a handful of very minor incidents. Not all of them were his fault either.

    You think he is going to rant at an AC/DC gig where he is the guest? Oh no a rant, its the end of the world! :D He hasn't done a "rant" at a GNR show in years by the way, and if he does do one at an AC/DC gig it is more than likely due to dickhead "fans" giving him abuse. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world and judging by the ill-informed comments on here from certain posters lot I can't say I'd blame him one bit.

    As for late starts they are also increasingly rare. Anyway nothing screams rock n roll more than being in bed before midnight with your horlicks. And for 10 shows Axl can and will be on his best behaviour.

    He reached out to AC/DC and offered his help and they gladly accepted. But judging by the whining and moaning it is probably for the best that AC/DC is as good as dead after these shows.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    Axl to take Brian's place for the remaining gigs, confirmed by Rolling Stone Magazine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Red King wrote: »
    You AC/DC fans crack me up.

    We all have things that we find amusing. For example I find your fanboy idolisation of Axl in vehemently defending every accusation against your hero very funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭ush


    Red King wrote: »
    You AC/DC fans crack me up. It is like as if you are stuck in a time bubble from 1993 or earlier the way you talk about Axl Rose.

    1993? Have some respect. I'm stuck in '77. Ain't a bad place to be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Red King


    We all have things that we find amusing. For example I find your fanboy idolisation of Axl in vehemently defending every accusation against your hero very funny.

    What are you, 12 or 13? Fanboy idolisation? Is that what you call pointing out blatant ignorance from people whose view of the situation is 25 years out of date?

    As for my hero? Not even remotely. I AM a huge GNR fan and love their music. But if you even knew half the stuff I've posted online about Axl Rose you'd know how far off that remark that comment is :D


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    I've a ticket for Manchester so I've mixed feelings about this, I'm disappointed that Brian is officially out but also I'm intrigued as to what this will be like, if Rose is on his best behaviour it could be brilliant, a memorable once off, but knowing what he's like it could be a car crash too.

    I've a non-refundable flight booked and it would be hard to get rid of the ticket so I might as well just go anyway and see what happens, if I knew this would happen I wouldn't have bothered getting one, I'd love to see how this whole saga would have played out if Malcolm was in full health.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    I'm sure you could get a refund on the ticket, but I'd probably go too.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    Don't think that's possible, I'd be down a 100 Euro on the flight, might as well just go anyway and have an interesting experience, if only I could get in a time machine :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭ush




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭PeterTheEighth


    Allyall wrote: »
    I'm sure you could get a refund on the ticket, but I'd probably go too.

    Better to get your refund now, rather than have to fight with the promoter after a) Axl doesnt show up or b) Axl throws a strop and walks off stage after ten minutes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,889 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Better to get your refund now, rather than have to fight with the promoter after a) Axl doesnt show up or b) Axl throws a strop and walks off stage after ten minutes.

    Angus know's what's he's like and will not let it happen. Axl has prob signed contracts and is getting paid ****loads to do these gigs (Axl's tech a hired hand and is not the boss at these acdc shows)

    I think Axl has changed and seems to be enjoying being on stage with slash and duff and may of copped himself on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Red King


    You guys needs to educate yourselves as to the last time Axl didn't show for a gig or walked off and didn't finish the show. Jesus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭ush


    Red King wrote: »
    You guys needs to educate yourselves as to the last time Axl didn't show for a gig or walked off and didn't finish the show. Jesus.

    Exactly. Its not every decade he wastes millions recording a ****e album.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,889 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    happy i got to see AC/DC in the aviva last year but would love to see them with Axl rose dis year.

    Angus is not a young man anymore either are the rest of the band and whats best for business is too end ACDC after the tour. Id invite Brian Johnson to some of the shows (1 or 2 songs wont do his hearing any harm).

    Dvd boxset should be brought out after the tour.
    Disc 1- Doc on the bands whole career
    Disc 2- Live concert with Bon Scott
    Disc 3- Live concert with Brian Johnson (From the rock or bust tour)
    Disc 4- Live concert with Brian, Mal and Phil
    Disc 5- Live concert with Axl Rose

    Axl is prob getting paid Millions of dollars to do this tour


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    I'd like to see Axl Rose perform with them, but it would be more out of curiosity than anything else.
    I can't picture him singing many of the songs, I'm half picturing a car crash tour. If one gig goes bad, it's going to get worse..
    ******************************************

    AC/DC Reportedly Auditioned Tribute Band Singer to Replace Brian Johnson


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,224 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Statement from Brian via Ultimate Classic Rock
    As many AC/DC fans know, the remaining shows for the 2016 AC/DC Rock or Bust World Tour, including 10 postponed U.S. shows, are being rescheduled with a guest singer. I want personally to explain the reason because I don’t believe the earlier press releases sufficiently set out what I wanted to say to our fans or the way in which I thought it should be presented.

    On March 7th, after a series of examinations by leading physicians in the field of hearing loss, I was advised that if I continue to perform at large venues, I risked total deafness. While I was horrified at the reality of the news that day, I had for a time become aware that my partial hearing loss was beginning to interfere with my performance on stage. I was having difficulty hearing the guitars on stage and because I was not able to hear the other musicians clearly, I feared the quality of my performance could be compromised. In all honesty this was something I could not in good conscience allow. Our fans deserve my performance to be at the highest level, and if for any reason I can’t deliver that level of performance I will not disappoint our fans or embarrass the other members of AC/DC. I am not a quitter and I like to finish what I start, nevertheless, the doctors made it clear to me and my bandmates that I had no choice but to stop performing on stage for the remaining shows and possibly beyond. That was the darkest day of my professional life.

    Since that day, I have had several consultations with my doctors and it appears that, for the near future, I will be unable to perform on stage at arena and stadium size venues where the sound levels are beyond my current tolerance, without the risk of substantial hearing loss and possibly total deafness. Until that time, I tried as best as I could to continue despite the pain and hearing loss but it all became too much to bear and too much to risk.

    I am personally crushed by this development more than anyone could ever imagine. The emotional experience I feel now is worse than anything I have ever in my life felt before. Being part of AC/DC, making records and performing for the millions of devoted fans this past 36 years has been my life’s work. I cannot imagine going forward without being part of that, but for now I have no choice. The one thing for certain is that I will always be with AC/DC at every show in spirit, if not in person.

    Most importantly, I feel terrible having to disappoint the fans who bought tickets for the canceled shows and who have steadfastly supported me and AC/DC these many years. Words cannot express my deep gratitude and heartfelt thanks not just for the recent outpouring to me personally of kind words and good wishes, but also for the years of loyal support of AC/DC. My thanks also go to Angus and Cliff for their support.

    Finally, I wish to assure our fans that I am not retiring. My doctors have told me that I can continue to record in studios and I intend to do that. For the moment, my entire focus is to continue medical treatment to improve my hearing. I am hoping that in time my hearing will improve and allow me to return to live concert performances. While the outcome is uncertain, my attitude is optimistic. Only time will tell.

    Once again, my sincere best wishes and thanks to everyone for their support and understanding.

    Love,
    Brian


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭ush


    Is that him saying "I'm still available for studio work with AC DC"? Trying to force their hand to keep him on for that, letting Angus continue on the road with a guest singer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,224 ✭✭✭✭briany


    ush wrote: »
    Is that him saying "I'm still available for studio work with AC DC"? Trying to force their hand to keep him on for that, letting Angus continue on the road with a guest singer.

    AC/DC wished Brian well in his 'future ventures', a term kind of synonymous with a parting of ways. However, it is possible to wish someone well in their future ventures without parting ways as well. It's not the kind of language you'd usually pick, but it's possible. It's a statement just vague enough to be malleable after the fact, anyway. I'd say AC/DC would be well-advised to hang back after this tour and wait for some dust to settle. Do AC/DC really want to go on with a gutted lineup? Would people buy into it without Brian Johnson singing?

    Brian makes it clear that the situation is a fluid one. He hopes his hearing will return to a healthy level but that's a work in progress, not a guarantee. It's only my opinion, but I think Brian would reluctantly understand if AC/DC turned down the offer that he only sang on the records, and I can't imagine that forcing their hand had been any part of his intent when penning this statement.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    I remember last year in the Aviva he was messing with his ear piece a lot, you'd hope he'll be able to comeback and they get to go out with Brian fronting the band.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    I remember last year in the Aviva he was messing with his ear piece a lot, you'd hope he'll be able to comeback and they get to go out with Brian fronting the band.

    It would be great. I remember seeing something on BBC news roughly a year or more ago about scientists using silk for repairing burst eardrums, or they were working on it.
    You'd have to imagine also, before he gets too old, if he would be up for one last tour, and risk it. Doubt it, but it would be something I'd imagine is running through his mind a lot, or will.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭Infernum


    It will be a mystery as to why they decided on Axl Rose of all people to take Brian's place. It's not like he's even vocally similar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Infernum wrote: »
    It will be a mystery as to why they decided on Axl Rose of all people to take Brian's place. It's not like he's even vocally similar.

    That's probably why he was picked. Do you really want to hear a Brian Johnson impersonator? Someone with a different style is a much better idea I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭Infernum


    That's probably why he was picked. So you really want to hear a Brian Johnson impersonator? Someone with a different style is a much better idea I think.

    I guess so. It's just going to sound a bit odd though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Infernum wrote: »
    I guess so. It's just going to sound a bit odd though.

    And that's what will make these gigs interesting.

    As for Brian wanting to continue recording, they only release an album every 5 years or so, so in reality how many albums do they have left in them? I'd have said we'll be lucky to get another one, even before this issue arose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,224 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Brian's statement is now being hosted as news on AC/DC's official site.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,224 ✭✭✭✭briany


    A number of people on the ACDCfans.net forum posting about successfully claiming refunds. I wonder will this phenomenon of looking for one by restricted mainly to the hardcores, or will we see AC/DC playing to diminished audiences?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,944 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    briany wrote: »
    A number of people on the ACDCfans.net forum posting about successfully claiming refunds. I wonder will this phenomenon of looking for one by restricted mainly to the hardcores, or will we see AC/DC playing to diminished audiences?

    A few of my mates in Wales are heading to the Manchester gig, told them to get a refund then head up and pick up a cheap ticket (which there will be plenty of) outside the stadium


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    briany wrote: »
    A number of people on the ACDCfans.net forum posting about successfully claiming refunds. I wonder will this phenomenon of looking for one by restricted mainly to the hardcores, or will we see AC/DC playing to diminished audiences?

    I'd say there will be a lot of people asking for a refund (and rebuying cheaper). Many just don't like Axl Rose, he doesn't have a great reputation for playing gigs, whether they are true or not. Also there will be many that will want to see it as it's unusual in itself. A growing trend seems to be, go to the gig, complain afterwards and then ask for a refund :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,224 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Allyall wrote: »
    A growing trend seems to be, go to the gig, complain afterwards and then ask for a refund :(

    Sounds a bit cheeky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    briany wrote: »
    Sounds a bit cheeky.

    I hate it.
    It could be just a coincidence, but I saw it happening for the first time about 4 or 5 years ago. Then about two years ago, and the end of last year I know two people that said the gig was terrible and asked for their cash back (They're a couple), and I think the Olympia gave it to them.
    I'd ask them a heap of questions and use CCTV to ask why they didn't leave way early etc.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭topmanamillion


    Allyall wrote: »
    I hate it.
    It could be just a coincidence, but I saw it happening for the first time about 4 or 5 years ago. Then about two years ago, and the end of last year I know two people that said the gig was terrible and asked for their cash back (They're a couple), and I think the Olympia gave it to them.
    I'd ask them a heap of questions and use CCTV to ask why they didn't leave way early etc.

    Nonsense there's a lot of reasons someone wouldn't leave a gig early like lift organised at certain time or one of the few nights a couple manages to get out.
    If the Olympia gave them their money back they probably won't the only ones that looked for it and the Olympia probably agreed it was a substandard gig.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    Nonsense there's a lot of reasons someone wouldn't leave a gig early like lift organised at certain time or one of the few nights a couple manages to get out.
    If the Olympia gave them their money back they probably won't the only ones that looked for it and the Olympia probably agreed it was a substandard gig.

    I can't remember how many others I've heard of, but they were only instances that I personally could comment on/saw. I have heard of it happening quite a lot. In any case it's not something I would agree with. The gig would have to be pretty bad, none of those (for me) were bad.
    ***************************************

    Anyway, - Three more songs updated to alleged rehearsal -
    http://ultimateclassicrock.com/axl-rose-acdc-rehearsal/
    Audio of what appears to be Guns N’ Roses frontman Axl Rose rehearsing with AC/DC has surfaced. Listen to the embedded videos above and below for a sneak peek at what sounds like “Thunderstruck,” “Shoot to Thrill,” “Hells Bells,” “Hell Ain’t a Bad Place to Be” and “Back in Black.”

    Read More: Updated With Three More Songs: Hear Audio of Axl Rose Apparently Rehearsing with AC/DC | http://ultimateclassicrock.com/axl-rose-acdc-rehearsal/?trackback=tsmclip


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,224 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I have to admit that Axl sounds pretty good on these recordings. It'll never be like it was, of course, but I think the shows will go down well, overall, if Axl puts in a performance at least as good as what's indicated he can here. That'll get the band through the 22 dates, and we'll see what happens from there. Of course I'm pulling for Brian to get better, and hopefully rumours of a fallout are overblown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,224 ✭✭✭✭briany


    AC/DC breaks their silence on refunds.
    A spokesman for AC/DC told TeamRock: "The band made a decision to offer this. As they care about their fans and wanted to do right by them, they instructed local promoters to offer refunds."

    A spokeswoman for the Chartered Trading Standards Institute (CTSI) also confirmed via TeamRock that the band were not under any legal obligation to offer refunds: "Our CTSI lead officer for fair trading can confirm that there is no legal obligation for the ticket sellers to refund in this case. It is a goodwill gesture."


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    I've a ticket for Manchester, Ticketmaster are offering me the chance of a refund till tomorrow evening, it's a tough choice but I'll probably not accept it, I've considered getting a refund and getting a cheaper ticket off a tout outside on the day, but dealing with them is probably like Russian Roulette.

    If I was offered a refund before I had booked two non-refundable flights for 120 euro, I would have taken the refund and not bothered going at all, but I'm making a loss anyway so I might as well have an interesting experience.

    Looking forward to seeing footage of them playing, this potentially could be brilliant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,944 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    I've a ticket for Manchester, Ticketmaster are offering me the chance of a refund till tomorrow evening, it's a tough choice but I'll probably not accept it, I've considered getting a refund and getting a cheaper ticket off a tout outside on the day, but dealing with them is probably like Russian Roulette.

    If I was offered a refund before I had booked two non-refundable flights for 120 euro, I would have taken the refund and not bothered going at all, but I'm making a loss anyway so I might as well have an interesting experience.

    Looking forward to seeing footage of them playing, this potentially could be brilliant.


    GET THE REFUND!!! I'm from North Wales and used to go to Manchester at least twice a month for gigs, the touts are as decent as touts can be.

    There will be LOADS of cheap tickets outside, just know how to deal with the touts

    I'll give you an example, when Rammstein played Dublin i went, the next day i went back home for 4 days, they were playing the MEN Arena in Manchester so i asked my daughter if she'd like to go, we went along, ticketless.

    Approached the first tout, asked him how much, and mentioned we'd only pay as little as possible as not really arsed about the gig, just wanted to see what all the fuss was about :pac::pac:

    Payed 35stg for a pair of really great lower tier seats by the stage, face value was 40 each. If you wait until the supposrt bands are nearly over you'll get them cheaper


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    You're probably right Scud, I've never had any experience dealing with touts, I've heard they can be dodgy hoors, that's why I'd be apprehensive about getting tickets off one, could genuinely be a great deal or the f*cker could be laughing at you as you walk away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,944 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    You're probably right Scud, I've never had any experience dealing with touts, I've heard they can be dodgy hoors, that's why I'd be apprehensive about getting tickets off one, could genuinely be a great deal or the f*cker could be laughing at you as you walk away.

    I use touts a LOT, you really have to know how to deal with them, they're generally decent guys, if you're not happy just say "Nah, i'll just sit in pub till gigs over and meet me mates then", they'd rather any sort of cash in their hand than a useless ticket.

    Picked up a pair standing for Slash for 30quid for 2, i walked away and he called me back.

    Also, whatever you want to pay, say, 80stg a pair for DC, have the cash seperate in your pocket and say it's all you can spare, if you pulled a wallet out with a lot more in you're bargaining power goes down


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    scudzilla wrote: »
    I use touts a LOT,

    Ever have any dodgy experiences with them? (i.e got dodgy tickets or something)


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