Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

partyguinness · 21-05-2019 12:14pm

Remember Brian Crowley MEP paralysed himself when he feel through the roof of a building while trespassing as a 16yr old. He got a big pay out.

Force Carrier · 21-05-2019 12:23pm

boombang wrote: »

I honestly think FG need her to drop her action. It will be a climb down, but it's necessary to show moral leadership here. How quickly can Leo act?

Using a safety harness and ropes.

partyguinness · 21-05-2019 12:23pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Doubt it. They will show how many people have sat on it pissed with issues.

I would show a picture of a five yr old on a swing with no issues.

The fact that she was not holding on at all will surely have to be an issue.

If there is a log/accident book with similar incidents then yes they will show a pattern of similar incidents and the hotel did nothing about it. If there are no other incidents then it will make it a little more difficult.

As I said earlier getting injured etc it does not follow that negligence was present but we do not have all the info.

Why you would have a swing there in the first place I have no idea.

SirGerryAdams · 21-05-2019 12:25pm

Would be great if they had to remove the swing. I'm sick of seeing every girl with their picture on the swing on tinder or facebook.

Edgware · 21-05-2019 12:27pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No fan of FG, but would it not be correct to wait until the case concludes?

No. This is After Hours. No injury reported to her neck. Too ****ing hard I suppose

SirGerryAdams · 21-05-2019 12:28pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I hope the hotel has warnings on their cups that the contents may be hot if this is the level of idiocy that is being defended.

I have seen this actually in the workplace funnily enough...I have seen in numerous places warnings that the hot water boiler is a hot hazard and a toaster will make the contents hot...

Another place for the water boiler they added a hot hazard sign and reduced the temperature....so the tea was disgusting...

ChikiChiki · 21-05-2019 12:30pm

PaulieC wrote: »

only reasonable course of action is to let your local FG election and European election candidates that you will not vote FG because of this, no matter who the candidate is.

and because of the housing crisis, their support for co-living, the failure to tackle the health system, their voting record on climate change....... the list is endless really. I never thought any party could be worse than FF. They have outdone thmselves.

partyguinness · 21-05-2019 12:30pm

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

I have seen this actually in the workplace funnily enough...I have seen in numerous places warnings that the hot water boiler is a hot hazard and a toaster will make the contents hot...

Another place for the water boiler they added a hot hazard sign and reduced the temperature....so the tea was disgusting...

I love the warning on peanut butter jars- 'Contains Nuts'

ILoveYourVibes · 21-05-2019 12:31pm

partyguinness wrote: »

The fact that she was not holding on at all will surely have to be an issue.

If there is a log/accident book with similar incidents then yes they will show a pattern of similar incidents and the hotel did nothing about it. If there are no other incidents then it will make it a little more difficult.

As I said earlier getting injured etc it does not follow that negligence was present but we do not have all the info.

Why you would have a swing there in the first place I have no idea.

She hasn't a chance of winning. Obviously a ridic amount too. If she had gone simply for any medical bills etc but this is genuine grifting.

Its not stupidity on her part.

Plus she is still running 20k no. So she is not in that much pain.

And she used to run 70 k a week. One MIGHT wonder at that mileage if its possible her injury might have nothing to do with the fall.

Runners who run at that level get injured all the time.

Were her friends touching her etc? (contributory neg)

She is going to have to prove something concrete not just say it hurts ..something you can show on an X- ray or something.

Going to a judge when you sat on a swing at 43 with so many people around you both hands full and now you run 20k a week is going to seem like a bit much.

partyguinness · 21-05-2019 12:35pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

She hasn't a chance of winning. Obviously a ridic amount too. If she had gone simply for any medical bills etc but this is genuine grifting.

Its not stupidity on her part.

Plus she is still running 20k no. So she is not in that much pain.

And she used to run 70 k a week. One MIGHT wonder at that mileage if its possible her injury might have nothing to do with the fall.

Runners who run at that level get injured all the time.

Were her friends touching her etc? (contributory neg)

She is going to have to prove something concrete not just say it hurts ..something you can show on an X- ray or something.

Going to a judge when you sat on a swing at 43 with so many people around you both hands full and now you run 20k a week is going to seem like a bit much.

It is very much a case of stick in a claim and sure the insurance company won't want the hassle and they will pay out.

Through my line of work I personally know people in business and their insurer will automatically pay out on a claim under £10k as it is just not worth the hassle.

If I was so minded I could take myself along to that premises 'slip' and file a claim for £5k- they will pay it. But I am not like that.

Edgware · 21-05-2019 12:36pm

partyguinness wrote: »

I love the warning on peanut butter jars- 'Contains Nuts'

Like Dunnes underwear " may contain nuts"

Scoundrel · 21-05-2019 12:41pm

A total chancer and she's using Madigans solicitors a firm very closely connected to another FG TD pure corruption in public office. No wonder small business are folding and car insurance is so expensive when you've got scum like her and Alan Farrell as TDs gaming the system.

ChikiChiki · 21-05-2019 12:46pm

How could you trust these cowboys in public office?

https://www.thesun.ie/news/2827484/alan-farrell-fine-gael-td-photo-ladder-court/

ILoveYourVibes · 21-05-2019 12:47pm

partyguinness wrote: »

It is very much a case of stick in a claim and sure the insurance company won't want the hassle and they will pay out.

Through my line of work I personally know people in business and their insurer will automatically pay out on a claim under £10k as it is just not worth the hassle.

If I was so minded I could take myself along to that premises 'slip' and file a claim for £5k- they will pay it. But I am not like that.

Legal fees alone could be 2.5 k for a normal case not including the settlement and quite OFTEN A LOT more. .

And for the claimant some lawyers with offer no win no fee in Ireland now. Free consultation free they will even visit you at home.

No one is going to offer a defendant no win no fee for obvious reasons.

All the claiment has to worry about is the loss of insurance.

Obviously for genuine hard up cases its a good thing. But it can become a bottom feeding environment.

ILoveYourVibes · 21-05-2019 12:49pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

How could you trust these cowboys in public office?

https://www.thesun.ie/news/2827484/alan-farrell-fine-gael-td-photo-ladder-court/

hmm yeah thats a scumbag alright

Suckit · 21-05-2019 1:07pm

Scoundrel wrote: »

A total chancer and she's using Madigans solicitors a firm very closely connected to another FG TD pure corruption in public office. No wonder small business are folding and car insurance is so expensive when you've got scum like her and Alan Farrell as TDs gaming the system.

Josephina Madigan only left her brothers firm when she became TD. This little stunt might have unearthed a whole PR disaster for Fine Gael close to the elections, luckily for them it's not a General Election.

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

hmm yeah thats a scumbag alright

What I don't understand about the Alan Farrell moronic claim, is they had been given a pay rise a few months earlier, he made a statement about the compo culture 2 weeks prior to his claim, and it was for €15,000!!!!!!

That's probably 2 months wages sitting at home as a TD, ensuring he may never get voted in again.

By the way, Alan Farrell also hired his heavily pregnant wife as his Parliamentary assistant. So she got maternity leave after only working for roughly 2-3 months. That was also one of the first (if not the first) thing he did as a TD.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fg-td-hires-wife-as-aide-after-council-bid-fails-26716863.html
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/new-td-hires-wife-despite-promise-to-end-cronyism-26718431.html
He won't care if he never gets elected again though, as he will have a handsome pension.

An Claidheamh · 21-05-2019 1:17pm

Just so you know, Alan Farrell was also the TD who thought that the PIRA carried out the Dublin and Monaghan Bombings.

He also was only found out on that ignorance, as he brought something up about Sinn Féin because an Indo hack actually just rang him and ordered him to. (This was after Mattie McGrath refused to).

Btw, I don't understand why companies don't just refuse to pay these ridiculous claims.

If a business wins against a false claim and the scammer doesn't pay costs, nothing happens.

If we want our insurance to be normalised, businesses have to stand up and also boycott these solicitors that bring dodgy claims.

If this pub actually fought this, they could chart their progress on facebook, etc.
Could be a disaster for Fine Gael if handled right.

Refuse to pay is the answer, or just turn up at Farrell and Madigan's constituency office and fall over.

ILoveYourVibes · 21-05-2019 1:19pm

Suckit wrote: »

Josephina Madigan only left her brothers firm when she became TD. This little stunt might have unearthed a whole PR disaster for Fine Gael close to the elections, luckily for them it's not a General Election.

What I don't understand about the Alan Farrell moronic claim, is they had been given a pay rise a few months earlier, he made a statement about the compo culture 2 weeks prior to his claim, and it was for €15,000!!!!!!

That's probably 2 months wages sitting at home as a TD, ensuring he may never get voted in again.

By the way, Alan Farrell also hired his heavily pregnant wife as his Parliamentary assistant. So she got maternity leave after only working for roughly 2-3 months. That was also one of the first (if not the first) thing he did as a TD.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fg-td-hires-wife-as-aide-after-council-bid-fails-26716863.html
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/new-td-hires-wife-despite-promise-to-end-cronyism-26718431.html
He won't care if he never gets elected again though, as he will have a handsome pension.

Their retirement packages are like huge.

That is just for one term.

Charles Babbage · 21-05-2019 1:22pm

Edgware wrote: »

Like Dunnes underwear " may contain nuts"

Dunnes underwear often contains bollix.

Squatter · 21-05-2019 1:23pm

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Btw, I don't understand why companies don't just refuse to pay these ridiculous claims.

If a business wins against a false claim and the scammer doesn't pay costs, nothing happens.

If we want our insurance to be normalised, businesses have to stand up and also boycott these solicitors that bring dodgy claims.

Writing from memory, the insurance company involved did fight Sponger Farrell's claim - that's how the media found out about it!

But the "Honourable" Judge :rolleyes: decided that Farrell may well have had a sore (as well as a thick) neck for a few days so threw some money at him.

LillySV · 21-05-2019 1:25pm

Plain and simple, Fine Gael are scum of the earth

Eggs For Dinner · 21-05-2019 1:28pm

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Btw, I don't understand why companies don't just refuse to pay these ridiculous claims.

.

Because refusing to pay a claim does not magically make it go away. The claimant lodges proceedings to have the matter heard in court and if the defendant (and their insurer) do not turn up, the claimant wins by default.

Anyone can make a claim against anybody for anything. It is at your own peril you don't defend your position.

ILoveYourVibes · 21-05-2019 1:30pm

Whatever doctor is telling her its ok for her to run 20k a week if she can't sit or stand for long periods must be a muppet.

Or maybe she just barely goes to her doctor because she is really perfectly fine.

uck51js9zml2yt · 21-05-2019 1:31pm

razorblunt wrote: »

She sat on a swing with items in both her hands.
Rule no12 of the playground, always grab on when getting on a swing.
Eejit.

Hotel is fighting it

lemd · 21-05-2019 1:36pm

Technically a peanut is a bean so...... Yes, I am that pedantic!

skimpydoo · 21-05-2019 1:37pm

Fox Shrilling Chihuahua wrote: »

Hotel is fighting it

As they should and I hope they win big time.

Hope life is good with you, your wife, kids, and job.

Suckit · 21-05-2019 1:38pm

LillySV wrote: »

Plain and simple, Fine Gael are scum of the earth

And the rest.

Grid. · 21-05-2019 1:38pm

Ms Bailey claimed she can no longer sit or stand for long periods without experiencing pain or discomfort. She also said she used to run 70km a week before the fall, but has had to reduce this to less than 20km.

I'm sure you did:rolleyes:

Squatter · 21-05-2019 1:39pm

LillySV wrote: »

Plain and simple, Fine Gael are scum of the earth

Have you anything else in common with them?

Mod: Banned

partyguinness · 21-05-2019 1:41pm

lemd wrote: »

Technically a peanut is a bean so...... Yes, I am that pedantic!

So...peanut butter does not contain nuts then?

branie2 · 21-05-2019 1:42pm

Compo culture getting out of hand

kowloon · 21-05-2019 1:49pm

BPKS wrote: »

The hotel which has an indoor swing where it knows drunk people will be using it should have known better also. Its all grand to be giving out about dodgy claims and rip-off insurance and so on but business owners need to use a bit of cop on too.

Unfortunately that's the way things are, but it shouldn't be. There shouldn't be an expectation that the world needs to be childproofed to protect drunks and gob****es.
If I ran a hotel I would think seriously about whether this particular guest can be trusted with regular cutlery as issued to the grown ups.

ILoveYourVibes · 21-05-2019 1:50pm

Grid. wrote: »

I'm sure you did:rolleyes:

Olympic level fitness.

Dial Hard · 21-05-2019 1:50pm

branie2 wrote: »

Compo culture getting out of hand

Getting???

TuringBot47 · 21-05-2019 1:51pm

Looks like she only has a leaving cert, no third level qualification.

https://ie.linkedin.com/in/mariabaileytd

Explains a lot.

Patrick2010 · 21-05-2019 1:52pm

branie2 wrote: »

Compo culture getting out of hand

Certainly is, these 2 chancers aren't giving up easily and you can bet if/when they lose their claim in the high court it won't cost them a cent.

TWO brothers who had their €38,000 personal injury claims thrown out in 2015 after a judge found they were likely involved in a staged accident have appealed the decision to the High Court.
Martin and John Gerard Corcoran, originally from Galway but now believed to be living at a halting site in London, had their claims dismissed in the Circuit Civil Court after the judge found Aviva Insurance’s evidence about links between a Romanian group and Travellers to be “compelling”.
Costs were awarded against the Corcoran brothers but they later appealed the decision to the High Court, with the case this week being adjourned until July 1.
The appeal process has taken close to four years and Aviva says substantial costs are being racked up defending the case.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/significant-costs-racked-up-as-brothers-who-had-injury-claims-thrown-out-appeal-to-high-court-38133059.html

Wheeliebin30 · 21-05-2019 2:01pm

TuringBot47 wrote: »

Looks like she only has a leaving cert, no third level qualification.

https://ie.linkedin.com/in/mariabaileytd

Explains a lot.

What does that explain?????

So people who only have a leaving cert are what?

Stupid is it?

lemd · 21-05-2019 2:02pm

partyguinness wrote:

So...peanut butter does not contain nuts then?

It may contain nuts, hence the label. Although since it is the peanut that causes the allergy it is a moot point really.

Plumbthedepths · 21-05-2019 2:03pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote:

Stupid is it?

Sitting on a swing without holding on is stupid.

McMurphy · 21-05-2019 2:04pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

What does that explain?????

So people who only have a leaving cert are what?

Stupid is it?

My 4 year old son hasn't got leaving cert either.

He's mastered the art of using a swing though.

BarryD2 · 21-05-2019 2:05pm

grahambo wrote: »

You actually couldn't make this sh*t up!

Fine Gael TD Maria Bailey has sued the Dean after falling off Sophies swing.

She's looking for €60,000.

When the Politicians are making dodgey insurance claims, you know for sure that the country is absolutely fooked!

You're right, you couldn't make it up. The optics of this are just awful. What on earth was she thinking of as a publicly elected representative when she pursued this claim? Ok, it's four years ago but issues about insurance costs have been around longer than that.

partyguinness · 21-05-2019 2:06pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

What does that explain?????

So people who only have a leaving cert are what?

Stupid is it?

Well, it does reinforce the statistic that Irish politicians are poorly educated compared to their European counterparts.

There is actually a study from a few years ago (I will try to find it) that compared the educational levels/attainment of politicians across all national European parliaments and Ireland was at the bottom.

Having said that looking at the fiasco in the UK it looks like higher education is over rated.

Wheeliebin30 · 21-05-2019 2:10pm

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

My 4 year old son hasn't got leaving cert either.

He's mastered the art of using a swing though.

So he’s not stupid.

Glad we all agree that the level of education doesn’t make one stupid or not.

Plumbthedepths · 21-05-2019 2:12pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote:

Glad we all agree that the level of education doesnâ€™t make one stupid or not.

You're happy for someone to be involved in legislation that affects all our lives, yet hasn't the cop on to hold onto to a swing and worse again expects to be compensated for her own stupidity. Fair play for defending her idiocy. Call went out?

ToddyDoody · 21-05-2019 2:13pm

I'm presume all indoor swings will now be dismantled?

McMurphy · 21-05-2019 2:13pm

BarryD2 wrote: »

You're right, you couldn't make it up. The optics of this are just awful. What on earth was she thinking of as a publicly elected representative when she pursued this claim? Ok, it's four years ago but issues about insurance costs have been around longer than that.

Money.

Wheeliebin30 · 21-05-2019 2:14pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You're happy for someone to be involved in legislation that affects all our lives, yet hasn't the cop on to hold onto to a swing and worse again expects to be compensated for her own stupidity. Fair play for defending her idiocy. Call went out?

Where have I defended her?

I already called her an idiot and a disgrace.

Auguste Comte · 21-05-2019 2:15pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

PaulieC wrote: »

only reasonable course of action is to let your local FG election and European election candidates that you will not vote FG because of this, no matter who the candidate is.

Yeah that sounds fair and right.

There will be no one or no parties left to vote for if people won’t vote over one members behavior.

Well put Leo's nimbyism into the mix and that could be reason enough for anyone suffering from the housing crisis or the insurance crisis to express themselves by voting for anyone but fg.

Now there is a slogan. ABFG

Deebles McBeebles · 21-05-2019 2:18pm

Best story ever. Can't wait for this to be featured on all the UK/US chat shows in their 'ah sure look show stupid the Paddies are' section.

Edgware · 21-05-2019 2:20pm

partyguinness wrote: »

Well, it does reinforce the statistic that Irish politicians are poorly educated compared to their European counterparts.

There is actually a study from a few years ago (I will try to find it) that compared the educational levels/attainment of politicians across all national European parliaments and Ireland was at the bottom.

Having said that looking at the fiasco in the UK it looks like higher education is over rated.

Its important to be able to differentiate between education and intelligence.
I will take the intelligent person anytime

Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

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