Woman sues Dunnes Stores over glass jug which shattered after she poured hot water in

realitykeeper · 14-12-2019 10:44am

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

Even if dunnes sold a faulty jug.. 56k is just fecking silly. Where do they get these numbers from

I think the problem is that judges are so well paid that 56K seems small to them.

Taylor365 · 14-12-2019 10:53am

SACK THE JUDGES!

WE WANT DREDD!

jester77 · 14-12-2019 12:01pm

It pays to be stupid. Something seriously stinks in Ireland, where doing something stupid like pouring hot water in a jug, hanging onto a tram or slipping on a chip gets you the equivalent of a few years pay for the average hard working family. Time to get out people. I'm glad I no longer have to tolerate this sort of nonsense where I live, the idea of such claims would be laughed at.

fullstop · 14-12-2019 12:09pm

eagle eye wrote: »

This doesn't seem as off the wall as a lot of cases. I don't have a big problem, with this, people are stupid. There should be documentation stating not to put water over a certain temperature in the glass.

Are you really that stupid you don’t know how to use a glass jug?

And €56k for the pleasure? Jesus wept. What would be wrong with just covering her medical expenses and telling her not to be a ****ing idiot in future?

Balmed Out · 14-12-2019 12:14pm

eagle eye wrote: »

This doesn't seem as off the wall as a lot of cases. I don't have a big problem, with this, people are stupid. There should be documentation stating not to put water over a certain temperature in the glass.

No there shouldn't, we'd need a large book of all the stupid things not to do with every item we buy.

gmisk · 14-12-2019 12:17pm

eagle eye wrote: »

This doesn't seem as off the wall as a lot of cases. I don't have a big problem, with this, people are stupid. There should be documentation stating not to put water over a certain temperature in the glass.

I think dunnes said there was a sticker on it saying it was for cold drinks only...what more can they be expected to do?!

realitykeeper · 14-12-2019 12:23pm

eagle eye wrote: »

This doesn't seem as off the wall as a lot of cases. I don't have a big problem, with this, people are stupid. There should be documentation stating not to put water over a certain temperature in the glass.

If people are stupid, let their stupidity be their tutor. A shattered jug and a good old scalding teaches one not to pour hot water into a glass jug. Rewarding stupidity only encourages more stupidity.

DeanAustin · 14-12-2019 12:58pm

jester77 wrote: »

It pays to be stupid. Something seriously stinks in Ireland, where doing something stupid like pouring hot water in a jug, hanging onto a tram or slipping on a chip gets you the equivalent of a few years pay for the average hard working family. Time to get out people. I'm glad I no longer have to tolerate this sort of nonsense where I live, the idea of such claims would be laughed at.

And where is that?

joeysoap · 14-12-2019 1:32pm

easypazz wrote: »

People fly in to sign for dole fraud.

People fly in to collect childrens allowance when living somewhere else

People fly in to commit insurance fraud.

Its well known at this point that there is easy money here.

The children’s allowance part was widely known abused but fairly well managed now (school age anyway) but you can still get Irish CA and have a child in Poland.

Didn’t some tourist get compensation for missing a step in Brown Thomas last year, even though the stairway was there 70 years?

It’s not just Eastern Europe, you’d get nothing in Spain or Portugal either. Judge said she lived here a number of years, either she’s a slow learner or more likely a fast learner.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 14-12-2019 2:54pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

People can read news reports like this from Ireland, they're not fücking stupid or illiterate.

The compensation claim culture here is at comical levels.

It’s been well documented about people from Easten Europe flying into Dublin, renting a car and staging an accident and then lodging their claims. Ireland’s ridiculous compensation levels are well known far and wide and idiot judges like Cross are mostly to blame for it.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 14-12-2019 2:55pm

DeanAustin wrote: »

And where is that?

Pick any other country in the world.

BeerWolf · 14-12-2019 3:12pm

fullstop wrote: »

Are you really that stupid you don’t know how to use a glass jug?

And €56k for the pleasure? Jesus wept. What would be wrong with just covering her medical expenses and telling her not to be a ****ing idiot in future?

She'll sue the Judge for emotional trauma... :pac:

malinheader · 14-12-2019 4:59pm

If the same had happened in Slovakia. Would anyone have an idea what kind of case would you have and what kind of compensation could you expect if any.

tuxy · 14-12-2019 5:08pm

fullstop wrote: »

Are you really that stupid you don’t know how to use a glass jug?

And €56k for the pleasure? Jesus wept. What would be wrong with just covering her medical expenses and telling her not to be a ****ing idiot in future?

By awarding such a large amount well over medical expenses the judge is making a statement that Dunnes were seriously negligent and needs to be punished hard to ensure they do better next time.

In some cases this is necessary to make sure large companies do not ignore a problem, of course this case is ridiculous.

Ready4Boarding · 14-12-2019 5:36pm

There's something incredibly unsettling about seeing awards such as this. It undermines trust in our society and its institutions.

I think back on similar ordeals I've suffered and start to feel indignant that I didn't receive compensation.

When I was a child, my father irresponsibly let me fill his car's petrol tank and some malfunction caused it to back-spray petrol into my face and eyes. I was rushed to hospital and had numerous subsequent check-ups, etc. Shouldn't there have been a sign? And even if there was, isn't the garage nonetheless culpable because there was a malfunction and they had no eye-cleaning products to to offer?

I was staying in a hostel in Dublin and a local scumbag who was hanging out in the common room took issue with me and punched me in the face. Are the hostel not culpable for permitting him inside? Surely they ought to ensure a safe environment?

Now, I don't believe in either of the above cases that I was entitled to compensation. But if this one deserves almost twice the average wage, why not me too? These unwarranted payouts genuinely undermine the fabric of society.

monkeysnapper · 14-12-2019 5:53pm

I was in a night club and bouncers were chucking out a young lady and she reached for a glass and threw it at bouncers, it missed them and hit me in face ...

I have a scar just above my right eye .....anyone have any idea how much I left behind me ....

I might not have the loot but I certainly have my pride and dignity. .

I agree with previous posters about doing good causes for charity and local events and not getting insurance ..... we had an open day for kids at our local creche and local companies donated prizes and we raffeled them off for charity ....

One child fell and mother put in a claim months later , child wasnt even in creche , mother just brought child along. Mother is a teacher in school and her husband has a claim in local complex sports club for something else I'm not sure of. Fecking scum ......

The whole lot should be burned and fed to pigs

mdwexford · 14-12-2019 6:04pm

The power and arse licking of these Judges is ridiculous. They are untouchable and so many are making insane rulings and orders.

The whole system of legal aid etc is costing the country an absolute fortune and nobody seems to put much pass on it.

Montage of Feck · 14-12-2019 6:12pm

It's no wonder people are turning to the likes of Boris Johnson, the genuine working class are being ridden raw by the dregs of society and their enablers.

John Doe1 · 14-12-2019 9:14pm

Bloody hell, that is shocking.

Some people say Communism instilled a complete distrust of Authority in eastern europeans and therefore corruption is endemic. Her disrepect of of Irish legal system in this case is perhaps influenced by this. She is basically chancing her arm and getting the Irish tax payer to foot the bill for her own stupidity.

Motivator · 14-12-2019 9:28pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

My daughter has never drank tea or coffee in her life. She's had very little reason to boil water in her life. During the boil water notice I found her pouring boiling water into a glass to cool. She's in her 20s and she's not stupid. She just was never told.

The suing part is stupid alright

She actually sounds quite stupid.

LuasSimon · 14-12-2019 10:07pm

Do judges get a % of the claim amount as well as the solicitor and the claimant ?.. seems the only logic to some of Irish courts payouts !

Everyone should have a couple of claims on the go in this country , even if you only dreamt you had an accident there are solicitors out there could get you a payout from some of these judges .

whisky_galore · 14-12-2019 10:59pm

John Doe1 wrote: »

Bloody hell, that is shocking.

Some people say Communism instilled a complete distrust of Authority in eastern europeans and therefore corruption is endemic. Her disrepect of of Irish legal system in this case is perhaps influenced by this. She is basically chancing her arm and getting the Irish tax payer to foot the bill for her own stupidity.

"Some say"... who says? You?

It's nothing our own Paddies and Patricias haven't tried before.

angel eyes 2012 · 14-12-2019 11:21pm

LuasSimon wrote: »

Do judges get a % of the claim amount as well as the solicitor and the claimant ?.. seems the only logic to some of Irish courts payouts !

Everyone should have a couple of claims on the go in this country , even if you only dreamt you had an accident there are solicitors out there could get you a payout from some of these judges .

Judges get a set salary and no commission on awards determined in Court. However, all of the judiciary were Barristers or Solicitors prior to being appointed to the Bench, so it would be natural instinct to keep the awards going in order to keep personal injury litigation lucrative for the practitioners - their former colleagues.

mikeym · 14-12-2019 11:47pm

:eek:

joeysoap · 15-12-2019 3:21am

Wasn’t Maria Bailey fierce unlucky?

BuboBubo · 15-12-2019 3:26am

Motivator wrote: »

She actually sounds quite stupid.

She's a slow-vakian.

Fiery mutant · 15-12-2019 7:33am

My wife is Slovak, and makes tea every day in one of these glass jugs.

But she was clever enough to check it could handle the temperature before she bought it. When are judges going to start to ask themselves whether there is any personal responsibility in any of these actions.

Jurgen The German · 15-12-2019 10:06am

Fiery mutant wrote: »

My wife is Slovak, and makes tea every day in one of these glass jugs.

But she was clever enough to check it could handle the temperature before she bought it. When are judges going to start to ask themselves whether there is any personal responsibility in any of these actions.

The judge did mention contributory negligence and reduced the award by 25%. Its still a preposterous but completely unsurprising award. Accountability is rarely a consideration. I'd expect Dunnes to appeal it.

GreeBo · 17-12-2019 3:16pm

Motivator wrote: »

She actually sounds quite stupid.

To be fair, ignorance is not the same thing as stupidity.

Cordell · 17-12-2019 3:47pm

The cultural certainties, he said of an Ireland of “sturdy youths and maidens dancing at the crossroads” is no longer applicable to this country.

So what now, it's an Ireland filled with thick frail foreigners that need protecting from their own ignorance?

The judge said he accepted that in Slovakia, which is Ms Cekanova’s home country and in parts of Eastern Europe it is the custom to make tea in a glass jug.

No, it's not. They (or we as I'm from those parts myself) use metal kettles, boiled over gas hobs.

I'm a bit offended now, should I be calling my solicitor? The Judge comments were condescending to say the least, even borderline racist.

gifted · 20-01-2021 8:58pm

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/court-overturns-e65000-award-over-e10-dunnes-jug-that-shattered-1067747.html

Fann Linn · 20-01-2021 9:00pm

gifted wrote: »

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/court-overturns-e65000-award-over-e10-dunnes-jug-that-shattered-1067747.html

Common sense prevails.

JJayoo · 20-01-2021 9:03pm

All this **** is because judges delighted to throw out money

punisher5112 · 20-01-2021 11:29pm

Brilliant that it was stopped.

I'd love to see her paying costs, she won't though.

ahnowbrowncow · 20-01-2021 11:36pm

Is there any consequence for Justice Cross for coming to such an obviously ridiculous decision in the original case?

Wishful thinking I know but it's stupidity from judges like this that are putting huge numbers of businesses out of business because they don't have the deep pockets to challenge them like Dunnes Stores do or pay the massive insurance premiums.

Kermit.de.frog · 20-01-2021 11:52pm

Delighted to see this overturned. Common sense for once.

Shakey_jake · 21-01-2021 12:08am

She might have enough left for a kettle now

Potential-Monke · 21-01-2021 12:10am

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

Is there any consequence for Justice Cross for coming to such an obviously ridiculous decision in the original case?

I was thinking the same, especially for his comment that Dunnes should have known foreigners shop in there and Dunnes should know the customs of every single country in the world (he specifically said Slovakia, but the message would apply to all countries if that is his line of thinking).

At present, I don't think there's any judicial overview committee. I think it's up to the BAR and LAW councils to do anything about a judge, or indeed the person who was affected by the decision, in this case, Dunnes could possibly lodge a complaint.

Atlantic Dawn · 21-01-2021 12:12am

Sooner a few of them with dodgy claims have to pay the costs which in some cases will mean them losing their car or at the higher end their house the better. Hopefully Dunnes costs bankrupt her.

21-01-2021 12:14am

I'd love to see the total bill for all the legal professionals involved. The compensation paid in these nonsense cases is pretty much an irrelevance, as long as everyone gets paid the cases will keep on coming.

Be right back · 21-01-2021 12:15am

Shakey_jake wrote: »

She might have enough left for a kettle now

Or a teapot! Delighted that it was overturned.

SouthWesterly · 21-01-2021 12:16am

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

Is there any consequence for Justice Cross for coming to such an obviously ridiculous decision in the original case?

Wishful thinking I know but it's stupidity from judges like this that are putting huge numbers of businesses out of business because they don't have the deep pockets to challenge them like Dunnes Stores do or pay the massive insurance premiums.

He'll probably be promoted

LillySV · 21-01-2021 12:20am

hope she has afew hundred thousand to pay in legal expenses

suicide_circus · 21-01-2021 4:25pm

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

Is there any consequence for Justice Cross for coming to such an obviously ridiculous decision in the original case?

Wishful thinking I know but it's stupidity from judges like this that are putting huge numbers of businesses out of business because they don't have the deep pockets to challenge them like Dunnes Stores do or pay the massive insurance premiums.

I wish it were just stupidity of judges that resulted in awards like this. The more cynical side of me wonders whether it's about keeping the legal gravy train going. Fair play to Dunnes for challenging this and the appeals court for pointing out in plain language just how absurd it was.

suicide_circus · 21-01-2021 4:29pm

LillySV wrote: »

hope she has afew hundred thousand to pay in legal expenses

Where upon her ambulance chasing legal team will vanish

pgj2015 · 21-01-2021 4:30pm

She probably had the money spent in her head. delighted for her. she wouldnt get it in Slovakia.

thebronze14 · 21-01-2021 4:42pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

She probably had the money spent in her head. delighted for her. she wouldnt get it in Slovakia.

Get shatter-proof jugs there though

Trigger Happy · 21-01-2021 4:44pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd love to see the total bill for all the legal professionals involved. The compensation paid in these nonsense cases is pretty much an irrelevance, as long as everyone gets paid the cases will keep on coming.

There should criminal proceedings too for people who take reckless compo cases in the hope they might get a few quid.

punisher5112 · 21-01-2021 5:09pm

Should be a warning on the oven or microwave to not insert any body parts including head
.....

Similar to coffee cups, content may be hot for example....

What's the best warning or funniest others have seen....

kildare lad · 21-01-2021 5:15pm

A woman I know sued the local rugby club after her kid fell off a bouncy castle , he sprained/broke his wrist . She sued and got 20,000 and still goes up to the club like nothing happened, no one can stand her . It's about time a judge seen sense threw out a claim .

Woman sues Dunnes Stores over glass jug which shattered after she poured hot water in

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