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Trick of the Tail · 07-11-2016 6:49pm

Largely I mean financial constraints. News/talk content. Levies.

The BAI largely dictate the business model, and that is not the most efficient one.

Infoanon · 07-11-2016 6:59pm

Trick of the Tail wrote: »

Largely I mean financial constraints. News/talk content. Levies.

The BAI largely dictate the business model, and that is not themes efficient one.

Additionally there are constraints re genres of music / talk content / advertising content / various levies etc etc

Ultimately - the station must be a commercial success and if the listeners (as the jnlrs seem to bear out) like the product and high rotation (its mild compared to other stations) then Nova is doing the right thing

FanadMan · 07-11-2016 7:01pm

Infoanon wrote: »

...... then Nova is doing the right thing

Not according to a lot of people on this thread lol.

Infoanon · 07-11-2016 7:08pm

FanadMan wrote: »

Not according to a lot of people on this thread lol.

JNLRS are what it is all about - a few dissenting voices on here wont change the commercial realities

cdeb · 07-11-2016 7:08pm

There's maybe 20 people on this thread?

And 150,000 listeners?

So this thread is small fry as it stands.

Ciaran_B · 07-11-2016 7:08pm

Disco 2000 on now - another song they never get tired of playing.

07-11-2016 7:37pm

Ciaran_B wrote: »

Disco 2000 on now - another song they never get tired of playing.

And I never tire of hearing it.

I don't think that they can please everyone of all the time. But at the same time, some of the playlist is dubious.

former total · 07-11-2016 8:37pm

FanadMan wrote: »

Not according to a lot of people on this thread lol.

But they still listen, and listen religiously by the looks of it.

And that's all Nova need.

FanadMan · 07-11-2016 9:27pm

former total wrote: »

But they still listen, and listen religiously by the looks of it.

And that's all Nova need.

I know - I bitch, moan and whinge at Nova but still listen cos there's feck all else

salmocab · 07-11-2016 9:36pm

former total wrote: »

But they still listen, and listen religiously by the looks of it.

And that's all Nova need.

I dont I might on occasion stop if I'm flicking through and a good song is on, which to be fair is at least more likely than lots of other stations.

Max Headroom · 08-11-2016 9:19am

former total wrote: »

But they still listen, and listen religiously by the looks of it.

And that's all Nova need.

Yes..but if you were to ask the 150k listeners "what would they change",....;)

Its all well and good playing snippets of "listeners" praising the station..
Its perfect for Nova that most of their listeners cant read or use a keyboard.........:eek:...:P

FanadMan · 08-11-2016 6:30pm

Did I hear right - 2 U2 songs within about 10 mins of each other? Not fully sure cos of noisy kitchen. Who makes these bloody playlists?

Avatar MIA · 08-11-2016 6:31pm

FanadMan wrote: »

Did I hear right - 2 U2 songs within about 10 mins of each other? Not fully sure cos of noisy kitchen. Who makes these bloody playlists?

What's wrong with playing two U2 songs close together. U2 have released a fair few songs over a few decades.

andekwarhola · 08-11-2016 6:32pm

There seems to be an inviolable law of the radio universe which states that whenever I turn on Radio Nova, Doobie Brothers - What A Fool Believes has to be playing.

FanadMan · 08-11-2016 6:41pm

Avatar MIA wrote: »

What's wrong with playing two U2 songs close together. U2 have released a fair few songs over a few decades.

How many other (and better) bands have released more songs than U2 and don't even get a single play on the primetime shows? There are more Irish bands than U2 if Nova need to fill their BAI quota.

Fuzzy Clam · 08-11-2016 6:42pm

Avatar MIA wrote:

What's wrong with playing two U2 songs close together. U2 have released a fair few songs over a few decades.

From a playlisting point of view, it would be unusual to have more than one song from an artiste in a short period unless they're played back to back.

Max Headroom · 08-11-2016 7:26pm

Avatar MIA wrote: »

What's wrong with playing two U2 songs close together. U2 have released a fair few songs over a few decades.

....and there we have a typical Nova listener....no offence....

Avatar MIA · 08-11-2016 7:31pm

Max Headroom wrote: »

....and there we have a typical Nova listener....no offence....

No offence taken from a radio snob... no offence.

Max Headroom · 09-11-2016 9:49am

Avatar MIA wrote: »

No offence taken from a radio snob... no offence.

None taken...btw congratulations on your double digit contribution to the radio forum....yayyyyyyy...:)

Avatar MIA · 09-11-2016 10:00am

Max Headroom wrote: »

None taken...btw congratulations on your double digit contribution to the radio forum....yayyyyyyy...:)

So, that's how it works. Quantity over quality :pac: :P

Max Headroom · 09-11-2016 5:09pm

Nova noise PC..."is this your first time...i knew that"...every fcuking time ,then theres the listttttttttt......i'm thinkin dymentia at this stage....even down to the same Janes addiction track...all the time...god i miss Joe Donnelly..........:(

guile4582 · 09-11-2016 5:31pm

they are sh!tting themselves with that noise....what is it now 3/4 clues in a week!

*p.s. i am not listening to the station anymore but I would really like if when that noise is solved someone here could post the answer for me!

JimmyTClarke · 10-11-2016 3:32am

guile4582 wrote: »

they are sh!tting themselves with that noise....what is it now 3/4 clues in a week!

*p.s. i am not listening to the station anymore but I would really like if when that noise is solved someone here could post the answer for me!

That Nova Noise needs to be obliterated once and for all. It's a stupid game, utterly nonsensical. If they must run a cash prize based game to entice listeners, they should bring back Stripped Back.

But yes, I will commit to informing you of the origins of that infernal din once it is solved.

Broadcastonfm · 10-11-2016 9:06am

Max Headroom wrote: »

Thats clearly Carol Dooley....Irish Carol Dooley.......I think PC sounds like he sounds (juvenile) but i hear no yank twang..then theres Mike (Terry Partridge)Moloney..painful...but half decent sounds....'spose you cant have everything ..:rolleyes:

I'm pretty certain it's not Carol Dooley

Broadcastonfm · 10-11-2016 9:13am

guile4582 wrote: »

the baby was on the radio this morning...i'm done...goodbye Nova

Seriously , glad I missed . That breakfast show is headrecking as it is. Did you ever hear people as obsessed with the sound of their own voices as Marty , Dee and Conor.

Here a thought Nova , let the music do the talking . The new liner should be less gob and more music. As for the 80s obsession - suggests management in earlier to mid 40's .

I've made the switch and turned it off

terrydel · 10-11-2016 12:46pm

Nova is rubbish except for Sunday evening/night, the classics with Steve Downes (best dj voice around) which I'm sure is a syndicated show, and Pat James, the best music dj on Irish radio. The rest of it is utter garbage.

10-11-2016 12:54pm

Was listening to the breakfast show this morning,
how the hell are those lads getting paid to pump out that muck?

The station is a joke,
Dont get me started on Pat "the cock" Courtney !

10-11-2016 12:54pm

Double post

Max Headroom · 10-11-2016 8:54pm

BrownFinger wrote: »

Was listening to the breakfast show this morning,
how the hell are those lads getting paid to pump out that muck?

The station is a joke,
Dont get me started on Pat "the cock" Courtney !

But thats what Nova listeners want...repeating myself (again:p) Nova listeners dont have any interest in music.....they just like songs....

JimmyTClarke · 11-11-2016 1:37am

For those of you who have switched off Nova, have you switched to another station or are you listening to your own playlists? If you have switched station, which one have you switched to?

As regards Morning Glory, I don't dislike Miller or Irwin, but they need to reign in the silliness in the mornings. There's no need for antics such as burning Irwin's old boxer shorts for no apparent reason. I understand that radio shows need dialogue (otherwise you might as well just stick to your mp3), but keep it relevant. Breakfast shows don't need to be 'whacky'.

FanadMan · 11-11-2016 3:08am

JimmyTClarke wrote: »

For those of you who have switched off Nova, have you switched to another station or are you listening to your own playlists? If you have switched station, which one have you switched to?

As regards Morning Glory, I don't dislike Miller or Irwin, but they need to reign in the silliness in the mornings. There's no need for antics such as burning Irwin's old boxer shorts for no apparent reason. I understand that radio shows need dialogue (otherwise you might as well just stick to your mp3), but keep it relevant. Breakfast shows don't need to be 'whacky'.

Think the idea is that it's nice and lively with plenty of "happy banter" for the morning shows (to get people awake and motivated) and on the home drive there is lots of traffic news and and very little rock in case the traffic jammed drivers get a bit riled up while sitting stuck on the M50. Do they thing that if a driver hears something loud and raucous they'll instantly turn into a GTA driver and try to kill anything on the road?

11-11-2016 8:54am

I'd much rather Miller and Irwin over FM104 or Today FM's antics. But they just played that poxy Ex's and Oh's again! :mad: Miller comes across as a bit of a music snob, he must be shuddering when playing that.

guile4582 · 11-11-2016 9:55am

JimmyTClarke wrote: »

For those of you who have switched off Nova, have you switched to another station or are you listening to your own playlists? If you have switched station, which one have you switched to?

.

FUV Music - New york station, like a mix of Nova and TXfm and fcuk all zany BS - mostly music, not a lot of natter

salmocab · 11-11-2016 7:20pm

JimmyTClarke wrote: »

For those of you who have switched off Nova, have you switched to another station or are you listening to your own playlists? If you have switched station, which one have you switched to?

As regards Morning Glory, I don't dislike Miller or Irwin, but they need to reign in the silliness in the mornings. There's no need for antics such as burning Irwin's old boxer shorts for no apparent reason. I understand that radio shows need dialogue (otherwise you might as well just stick to your mp3), but keep it relevant. Breakfast shows don't need to be 'whacky'.

the whacky is exactly why I turned off, the music isn't as good as it used to be but still better than most. I absolutely detest the whacky DJ morning nonsense where one does something and the other laughs and calls them crazy. They only do this so you know how funny they are. I basically mooch around now looking for something to listen to although Ive been bussing it for the last while so it hasn't been a big deal.

Declan A Walsh · 11-11-2016 7:33pm

salmocab wrote: »

the whacky is exactly why I turned off, the music isn't as good as it used to be but still better than most. I absolutely detest the whacky DJ morning nonsense where one does something and the other laughs and calls them crazy. They only do this so you know how funny they are. I basically mooch around now looking for something to listen to although Ive been bussing it for the last while so it hasn't been a big deal.

I have to agree with you. I am not a fan of the "zany" duo setup (for "zany" read: inane, torturous, pretend funny, false laughing, chat), which is now a feature of so many stations now. If they played more music, I might be slightly less inclined to change. At the moment, I listen to quite a bit of Newstalk in the morning, and I am beginning to listen to Livedrive again on Dublin City FM, since the closure of TXFM (sniff!).
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JimmyTClarke · 12-11-2016 6:02am

FanadMan wrote: »

Think the idea is that it's nice and lively with plenty of "happy banter" for the morning shows (to get people awake and motivated) and on the home drive there is lots of traffic news and and very little rock in case the traffic jammed drivers get a bit riled up while sitting stuck on the M50. Do they thing that if a driver hears something loud and raucous they'll instantly turn into a GTA driver and try to kill anything on the road?

I have to admit, I do get a sudden urge to start mowing down innocent pedestrians when 'I Ran' by A Flock of Seagulls comes on. For those four minutes, Dublin becomes Vice City (at least in my mind, anyway).

JimmyTClarke · 12-11-2016 6:31am

salmocab wrote: »

the whacky is exactly why I turned off, the music isn't as good as it used to be but still better than most. I absolutely detest the whacky DJ morning nonsense where one does something and the other laughs and calls them crazy. They only do this so you know how funny they are. I basically mooch around now looking for something to listen to although Ive been bussing it for the last while so it hasn't been a big deal.

I know exactly where you're coming from. Music wise, it's the best of a bad lot. Although they can be quite repetitive, you're not going to hear the likes of Metallica or Sabbath on any other station (even if it doesn't venture beyond Enter Sandman and Paranoid). Mind you, I'd sooner listen to those two songs forevermore than endure one second of chart rubbish that's frequently doled out elsewhere. On the other hand, as Karsini pointed out, the likes of 'Ex's & Oh's' shouldn't be anywhere near their playlist.

Max Headroom · 12-11-2016 10:40am

JimmyTClarke wrote: »

I know exactly where you're coming from. Music wise, it's the best of a bad lot. Although they can be quite repetitive, you're not going to hear the likes of Metallica or Sabbath on any other station (even if it doesn't venture beyond Enter Sandman and Paranoid). Mind you, I'd sooner listen to those two songs forevermore than endure one second of chart rubbish that's frequently doled out elsewhere. On the other hand, as Karsini pointed out, the likes of 'Ex's & Oh's' shouldn't be anywhere near their playlist.

I'm hearing a lot more of the "new" indie (read: sh1te) bands being played on Nova lately..All Tvvins, Bastille, Blossoms...utter sh1te imo....its all just Bridget Jones soundtrack rubbish....where have all the rock bands gone....:(

cdeb · 12-11-2016 11:01am

I did a bit of analysis of Nova's tracklist there recently actually. 98 songs all told; you could do more, but the trend wasn't changing.

The average year of a song was 1991. (The median was 1990) So half of all songs are from the 90s or newer. Only one song in 6 was from before 1977.

By decade, there was 20 songs from the 70s, 80s and 10s, 19 from the 90s, 10 from the 00s and 9 from the 60s. So the 00s were more represented than the 60s, and the current decade is top of the lot. There was ten songs from 2016 alone, including the only songs repeated in the period - Bang Bang by Greenday and Hole In My Soul by Kaiser Chiefs. The Kaiser Chiefs song was actually played three times; the only other bands to be played three times were Blur and Nirvana (three different songs played once each)

Bands played twice were - Bastille, Bon Jovi, Green Day, Kings of Leon, Pearl Jam (Alive twice), Peter Gabriel, Pink Floyd, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Tom Petty, and ZZ Top.

But there's an awful lot of stuff like Max Headroom notes - Heathens, Two Door Cinema Club, Richard Hawley, Vance Joy, Kongos, The Kooks, The Fratellis, Doves, etc, etc, etc.

No AC/DC in the 98 songs, interestingly.

I guess take of that what ye will!

JimmyTClarke · 12-11-2016 3:39pm

cdeb wrote: »

I did a bit of analysis of Nova's tracklist there recently actually. 98 songs all told; you could do more, but the trend wasn't changing.

The average year of a song was 1991. (The median was 1990) So half of all songs are from the 90s or newer. Only one song in 6 was from before 1977.

By decade, there was 20 songs from the 70s, 80s and 10s, 19 from the 90s, 10 from the 00s and 9 from the 60s. So the 00s were more represented than the 60s, and the current decade is top of the lot. There was ten songs from 2016 alone, including the only songs repeated in the period - Bang Bang by Greenday and Hole In My Soul by Kaiser Chiefs. The Kaiser Chiefs song was actually played three times; the only other bands to be played three times were Blur and Nirvana (three different songs played once each)

Bands played twice were - Bastille, Bon Jovi, Green Day, Kings of Leon, Pearl Jam (Alive twice), Peter Gabriel, Pink Floyd, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Tom Petty, and ZZ Top.

But there's an awful lot of stuff like Max Headroom notes - Heathens, Two Door Cinema Club, Richard Hawley, Vance Joy, Kongos, The Kooks, The Fratellis, Doves, etc, etc, etc.

No AC/DC in the 98 songs, interestingly.

I guess take of that what ye will!

That's some interesting input, cdeb. How did you manage to collate all those stats?

cdeb · 12-11-2016 8:54pm

I just listened to the radio for a few hours

Max Headroom · 13-11-2016 10:45am

cdeb wrote: »

I just listened to the radio for a few hours

I feel your pain mate...:D.....That classic rock band The Kaiser Chiefs new track is getting an awful lot of plays.....so too 21 Pilots...but i've never heard Pilot being played, maybe i missed them back in January....:o

guile4582 · 13-11-2016 5:04pm

Sound of Silence by Disturbed makes me feel queezy at this stage. sick to the pit of my stomach. where the hell is music going?

Trebor176 · 13-11-2016 5:39pm

guile4582 wrote: »

Sound of Silence by Disturbed makes me feel queezy at this stage. sick to the pit of my stomach. where the hell is music going?

Words cannot describe how much I hate that song. Well, that version anyway! It's not as painful to listen to as All Of Me by John Legend, but it is extremely dire. It doesn't help that it is way overplayed. We've tried Nova in work, but it hasn't lasted long, even giving it more chances. Q102 is worse! Certain shows on Nova are fine, but their playlist needs a major revamp overall. The likes of Coldplay and Travis should not be on a station Like Nova.

JimmyTClarke · 13-11-2016 8:43pm

guile4582 wrote: »

Sound of Silence by Disturbed makes me feel queezy at this stage. sick to the pit of my stomach. where the hell is music going?

I didn't mind it at first, it was an adequate reimagining of a classic. But now it drives me mad. And every DJ who plays it and listener who requests it makes it out to be the best cover since Joe Cocker's version of 'With a Little Help from my Friends'.

former total · 13-11-2016 10:05pm

cdeb wrote: »

I did a bit of analysis of Nova's tracklist there recently actually. 98 songs all told; you could do more, but the trend wasn't changing.

The average year of a song was 1991. (The median was 1990) So half of all songs are from the 90s or newer. Only one song in 6 was from before 1977.

By decade, there was 20 songs from the 70s, 80s and 10s, 19 from the 90s, 10 from the 00s and 9 from the 60s. So the 00s were more represented than the 60s, and the current decade is top of the lot. There was ten songs from 2016 alone, including the only songs repeated in the period - Bang Bang by Greenday and Hole In My Soul by Kaiser Chiefs. The Kaiser Chiefs song was actually played three times; the only other bands to be played three times were Blur and Nirvana (three different songs played once each)

Bands played twice were - Bastille, Bon Jovi, Green Day, Kings of Leon, Pearl Jam (Alive twice), Peter Gabriel, Pink Floyd, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Tom Petty, and ZZ Top.

But there's an awful lot of stuff like Max Headroom notes - Heathens, Two Door Cinema Club, Richard Hawley, Vance Joy, Kongos, The Kooks, The Fratellis, Doves, etc, etc, etc.

No AC/DC in the 98 songs, interestingly.

I guess take of that what ye will!

Fair play, some serious leg work.

And what it tells us is that Nova is sticking pretty closely to the remit of its licence.

I don't understand the objections to the music. Some of the DJs are pillocks, but that's par for the course these days.

13-11-2016 10:06pm

former total wrote: »

I don't understand the objections to the music. Some of the DJs are pillocks, but that's par for the course these days.

Personally I think that new music, particularly those that are more like hip-hop or pop, has no place on a classic rock station.

Trebor176 · 13-11-2016 10:23pm

I can't remember the last time I heard Freebird in its full 9 odd minutes glory or Hold The Line By Toto, for example. Think K-DST in GTA San Andreas (for those that played it). It's a classic rock station, obviously.

Dad Rock when on TOday FM was what Classic Rock is. They had specials on at Christmas that would have filled a number of audio tapes, and provided for great listening. I know Marty MIller did a similar show on Nova for a time on Friday nights. The weekday format lacks in this sort of thing. Certainly, the direction has changed since it started, I feel.

former total · 13-11-2016 10:41pm

Karsini wrote: »

Personally I think that new music, particularly those that are more like hip-hop or pop, has no place on a classic rock station.

Yeah this is the issue. From day one, Nova has always played present-day hits. There is a misconception here that they should only play oldies, but that is not and has never been the case.

guile4582 · 14-11-2016 10:14am

Trebor176 wrote: »

I can't remember the last time I heard Freebird in its full 9 odd minutes glory or Hold The Line By Toto, for example. Think K-DST in GTA San Andreas (for those that played it). It's a classic rock station, obviously.

Pat will always throw on Hurricane to eat up 10mins in the afternoon, I'd say they are hangover days

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