Formula E - Gen.2

Charlie-Bravo · 16-02-2019 11:23pm

Currently under red flag. Clock is still ticking down which I think is a bit of a loss for the fans/viewers. No cars going around, and the time is running out.

flazio · 16-02-2019 11:26pm

astrofluff wrote: »

Currently under red flag. Clock is still ticking down which I think is a bit of a loss for the fans/viewers. No cars going around, and the time is running out.

Clock will be reset. It's not like a practice session.

Charlie-Bravo · 16-02-2019 11:34pm

Nice. Should be a good restart with attack mode and safety car.

donspeekinglesh · 16-02-2019 11:35pm

Clock has been reset. That was a nasty crash for Piquet.

ScrubsfanChris · 16-02-2019 11:39pm

So much confusion around what's going on. Safety car doing 2 laps for no reason I can see.

Jordan 199 · 17-02-2019 12:10am

I'm enjoying this.

Charlie-Bravo · 17-02-2019 12:18am

Oh my word. What a final lap.

ScrubsfanChris · 17-02-2019 12:20am

That ending was more tense and exciting than any F1 race last season.....!

Jordan 199 · 17-02-2019 12:21am

astrofluff wrote: »

Oh my word. What a final lap.

It sure was. Very bad day for the Knee-sahns.

flazio · 17-02-2019 12:23am

That was good. They might sound like milk floats but my word they can race.

Inviere · 17-02-2019 3:11pm

Harika wrote: »

For FE it makes no sense to go to Spa as their customers are in towns or urban areas.

I don't get that argument. Most everyone who goes to a motorsport event lives in a town or urban area

Is it not that they're targeting street tracks because as you say, the speed delta between FE and F1 would make racing on dedicated sprawling tracks less appealing? Do you feel that as FE evolves, along with the tech, that as the cars get faster and faster the sport will outgrow the confines of narrow street tracks, and naturally gravitate towards dedicated racing circuits?

flazio wrote: »

That was good. They might sound like milk floats but my word they can race.

Very true. The cars are damned racey.

Rossi IRL · 18-02-2019 12:32am

Thought Werleins penalty was harsh, thought he was pushed off and when he rejoined he slowed down completely to where Di Grassi was right on his rear again.

Fascinating ending and the crowd in the stands went wild for it

jv2000 · 18-02-2019 12:07pm

Rossi IRL wrote: »

Thought Werleins penalty was harsh, thought he was pushed off and when he rejoined he slowed down completely to where Di Grassi was right on his rear again.

Fascinating ending and the crowd in the stands went wild for it

Agree the penalty was a bit harsh. On the other side of things though when he ran out of battery on the final straight did he try to take out Di Grassi or was it a poor attempt at getting out of the way? I was actually wondering if Werhlein was trying to get Di Grassi to ram into the back of him hence pushing him over the line in first place.... bit of a stretch maybe but Werhlein has already made it clear that he is only interested in winning.

Also I know that they have been trying to be very smart by communication with the winning driver as he is in the car but who in the world thought it would be a good idea to speak to Di Grassi directly after that? He must have been on an adrenaline peak - they deserved the F-bomb in my opinion

antodeco · 18-02-2019 7:32pm

jv2000 wrote: »

Also I know that they have been trying to be very smart by communication with the winning driver as he is in the car but who in the world thought it would be a good idea to speak to Di Grassi directly after that? He must have been on an adrenaline peak - they deserved the F-bomb in my opinion

They do it every race, and someone always curses. It's what I like about it. It's actually real. True emotions and they act exactly as we would. Less "prim and proper" versus F1 which is a good thing!

youreadthat · 18-02-2019 11:29pm

Really enjoying Formula e this year. Hope they bring the UK race back.

Mitch Connor · 04-03-2019 11:13am

Merc joining Formula E. Cool.

https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/mercedes-benz/sports/mercedes-benz-gp-ltd-takes-an-option-to-enter-formula-e-in-season-5-2/

PopePalpatine · 04-03-2019 12:46pm

They're already there in a sense, they're using HWA to dip their toes in.

Mitch Connor · 04-03-2019 2:02pm

PopePalpatine wrote: »

They're already there in a sense, they're using HWA to dip their toes in.

So... I don't watch FE at all... and based on that I have no idea what Merc have actually announced.

The statement says Season 5, 18/19 - which from my quick google is already underway.

Are they bringing in a car mid-season? Are they just name changing another car (HWA?)

PopePalpatine · 04-03-2019 2:18pm

Well, speaking of Mercedes, they've unveiled the livery for their 2019/20 challenger. The article mentions that HWA will run the team, so yes, they're probably changing the name of another team.

Charlie-Bravo · 04-03-2019 3:04pm

Hong Kong ePrix is on this weekend and it's an early race on Sunday morning from 7.30am (race at 8.03am) with lots of viewing options:

Ireland: Virgin Media
UK: BBC Two, BT Sport 3, BBC Red Button, Eurosport 1

https://www.fiaformulae.com/en/watch/ways-to-watch?country=eca2a2b0fe4543edb1fa0e8c0fb7ac79

Charlie-Bravo · 05-03-2019 1:05am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhyAo3TSi98

Inviere · 08-03-2019 5:50pm

Watching the highlights of the Mexico race here, wow, some difference when they’re racing on a proper race track. Looks be be a LOT of spectators too which is great. The cars are visibly slower than F1 cars on the straight, but it doesn’t hurt the racing at all...some great battles.

AMKC · 09-03-2019 10:23pm

Anyone see the race this morning? Was it any good?

If not I see the highlights of it are on BBC Two at 07.30 am on Sunday morning.

Edit: Its actually a live race not highlights like I said above but corrected by a poster below.

No wonder there was no posts in hear yet lol.

flazio · 09-03-2019 11:50pm

AMKC wrote: »

Anyone see the race this morning? Was it any good?

If not I see the highlights of it are on BBC Two at 07.30 am on Sunday morning.

Those aren't highlights it's a live race. It's on tomorrow morning.

AMKC · 09-03-2019 11:59pm

flazio wrote: »

Those aren't highlights it's a live race. It's on tomorrow morning.

Awe lovely. Why on a Sunday do instead of Saturday when its normally on?

A really good start to the race by Sam Bird and a very exciting start to the race to oh and its wet.

AMKC · 10-03-2019 9:23am

A really good start to the race by Sam Bird and a very exciting start to the race to oh and its wet.

Race red flagged at the moment because of a crash and both Mahindra's are out of the race but not there fault do.

antodeco · 10-03-2019 10:03am

Such a great race. I love how close these cars can drive to each other!

Charlie-Bravo · 10-03-2019 10:11am

Will bird be given a penalty? Montara could end up race winner!

Good enough race. Attack mode didn't make much of a difference in my opinion. Good to see how close the racing is.

antodeco · 10-03-2019 11:01am

astrofluff wrote: »

Will bird be given a penalty? Montara could end up race winner!

Good enough race. Attack mode didn't make much of a difference in my opinion. Good to see how close the racing is.

I don't see how they could penalise him. Wasn't intentional. Lotterer drove across his nose ultimately. I said he'd get a puncture before he got it. It was too much of a wallop not to have had any consequences.

Red flags, safety cars and high enough attrition.

Harika · 10-03-2019 11:05am

Great race, leaders within two seconds the whole race and several lead changes, race decided in the last laps
Feel sorry for lotterer with loosing the second race on the last meters and vandoorne who is let down by the car again.

AMKC · 10-03-2019 2:40pm

So Sam Bird has been giving a penalty which means the Venturi get there first win of the season. A bit harsh I think. Really thought Sam Bird deserved the win.

skipper_G · 10-03-2019 3:59pm

I must be in the minority, I think Bird deserved the penalty. He didn't set out to take out Lotterer on purpose, he just did it accidentally. It was a mistake but I couldn't mark that down as a racing incident.

But the race was good, driver's championship fight is super close. And 5 different race winners already this season.

Charlie-Bravo · 10-03-2019 4:41pm

I wanted Bird to have the win, but the penalty is fair IMO.

AMKC · 10-03-2019 6:35pm

skipper_G wrote: »

I must be in the minority, I think Bird deserved the penalty. He didn't set out to take out Lotterer on purpose, he just did it accidentally. It was a mistake but I couldn't mark that down as a racing incident.

But the race was good, driver's championship fight is super close. And 5 different race winners already this season.

After looking at the incident I think you are right. I had not seen all of the race when I said that. But after seeing it he did damage Lotterors car and puncture his tyre to so it seemed only right. I think Sam Bird knew it as well and that's why it did not celebrate after or on the podium.

TheChrisD · 11-03-2019 5:12am

Bird's penalty was absurd. Stewards continuing to prove how useless they are at the job. Lotterer moves over slightly during braking, as well a braking earlier than expected; should've been 100% called a racing incident.

Vegeta · 11-03-2019 6:48pm

Saw the last 15 minutes of the race and was a bit disappointed. Seemed impossible to overtake at the circuit, Bird was clearly in a faster car but couldn't get past. After the last safety car there was a train of cars from 4th down with what appeared to be minimal overtaking.

H3llR4iser · 12-03-2019 7:17pm

AMKC wrote: »

So Sam Bird has been giving a penalty which means the Venturi get there first win of the season. A bit harsh I think. Really thought Sam Bird deserved the win.

Watched the highlights last night - Bird deserves the penalty (in fact, it was bland) as he essentially just seems to always go for the contact, bump, moving the other car out of the way etc.

Frankly, the racing standards are becoming appaling - the race looked like a destruction derby, the start with all the contact and ramming reminded me of a bunch of kids playing Forza Motorsport online...ffs, the guy in the LEAD was a few meters away and got a bump from behind from a driver who was pushed by another one and so on. These "non Formula as they have wheel arches" cars are kinda inviting drivers to use the opposition as brakes. I've hardly ever seen so much contact in touring cars racing...

AMKC · 22-03-2019 11:27am

So the next race is on tomorrow and its in Sanya, China. I don't think to many of us will be watching it live do its on at 2:30 am in the morning.

Charlie-Bravo · 22-03-2019 12:35pm

It's on live at 7am for us. It'll be broadcast on BT Sport, Eurosport, Virgin Media and BBC red button amoung other outlets.

Coverage of the race begins at 6.30am.

Sanya is 8 hours ahead of GMT.

TheChrisD · 23-03-2019 8:01am

Man, this is far too early in the weekend to be having a race, let alone some quali...

pjohnson · 23-03-2019 10:56am

Jaysus the amount of steward investigations.

Charlie-Bravo · 23-03-2019 11:38pm

pjohnson wrote: »

Jaysus the amount of steward investigations.

Formula 1 levels of investigations. You can see this race series is going to exceed F1. 6 race winners from 6 races. And we're not done either.

pyramuid man · 24-03-2019 12:20am

astrofluff wrote: »

Formula 1 levels of investigations. You can see this race series is going to exceed F1. 6 race winners from 6 races. And we're not done either.

I have to say that while it is an exciting series, is not going to exceed F1 in the foreseeable future. The circuits are too short and the races are not long enough. It's very entertaining though.

pjohnson · 24-03-2019 9:31am

astrofluff wrote: »

Formula 1 levels of investigations. You can see this race series is going to exceed F1. 6 race winners from 6 races. And we're not done either.

Thats hard to see. It still has a tendency to be somewhat like bumper cars. As drivers literally push and shove around to get a position.

Inviere · 24-03-2019 11:57am

The biggest test for FE will be if/when it can transition to proper, historical, and actual race circuits. The current tracks are almost certainly to accommodate the limits of the cars, as opposed to the PR nonsense about allowing people not to travel - provide the show, and people will have no problem traveling. It’s a necessary evil to have a full season of Monaco tracks at the mo, but it will need to grow beyond those limits eventually.

That said, it handled itself when racing in Mexico recently, so I’d be confident in time we could see it transition to proper tracks, once the speeds begin to align more closely with F1 speeds. Granted, higher speeds doesn’t mean better racing, but as long as F1 is around, it will be used as a yard stick to compare FE to.

skipper_G · 24-03-2019 1:29pm

astrofluff wrote: »

Formula 1 levels of investigations. You can see this race series is going to exceed F1. 6 race winners from 6 races. And we're not done either.

I think it's a long way from that even being possible, they have fundamental issues with the product. The disaster that is the TV scheduling for one. Sometimes it seems to be on 10 different channels, then the next race it's on none. I know the BBC Red Button channel works but you can't record it. Missed it live and it's tough luck. At least with F1 I know which channel it's on (not getting drawn into a debate on Sky's exclusive deal here). For what it's worth formula e races that I've seen have been mostly good. There have been a few stinkers in there.

pyramuid man · 24-03-2019 4:27pm

skipper_G wrote: »

I think it's a long way from that even being possible, they have fundamental issues with the product. The disaster that is the TV scheduling for one. Sometimes it seems to be on 10 different channels, then the next race it's on none. I know the BBC Red Button channel works but you can't record it. Missed it live and it's tough luck. At least with F1 I know which channel it's on (not getting drawn into a debate on Sky's exclusive deal here). For what it's worth formula e races that I've seen have been mostly good. There have been a few stinkers in there.

I have been able to get them all on Eurosport. Record and watch them later. It's all the same feed and commentary.

flazio · 24-03-2019 5:56pm

Depending on your TV provider,
Eurosport, BT Sport and I presume Virgin Media Sport (it's not like they have much else to show) will show all the sessions live.

Charlie-Bravo · 24-03-2019 7:57pm

My point about surpassing F1, and I agree it's a long way off at the moment, is that the cars are so powerful although the battery is only getting 45mins with. It's only a matter of time before development is at F1 levels. They do need to consider the track suitability as I'm not happy with the short tracks, or lack of space for proper overtakes.

With more speed, the higher the mess/risk so maybe as the series matures, the drivers will seek to protect themselves.

I have to say, interesting how far the series has come with only 4 seasons competed.

pjohnson · 24-03-2019 9:49pm

astrofluff wrote: »

My point about surpassing F1, and I agree it's a long way off at the moment, is that the cars are so powerful although the battery is only getting 45mins with. It's only a matter of time before development is at F1 levels. They do need to consider the track suitability as I'm not happy with the short tracks, or lack of space for proper overtakes.

With more speed, the higher the mess/risk so maybe as the series matures, the drivers will seek to protect themselves.

I have to say, interesting how far the series has come with only 4 seasons competed.

I think its far more likely F1 adds more electric power (if electric power gets powerful enough) than FE catches/overtakes F1.

Formula E - Gen.2

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