Formula E - Gen.2

Harika

In partial related news, Audi is leaving the DTM to fully focus on series like formula E.

jv2000

AMKC wrote: »

Exactly so I don't think it will be effected as badly as Formula 1 has been.

The fact that Formula E consists of street races will be a huge disadvantage. It eliminates the possibility of behind closed doors racing and for this reason I think the rest of this season is in serious doubt.

In formula 1 the magic number for a valid championship was 10 rounds. Formula E has only raced 5 rounds so unfortunately we probably will not be able to conclude a champion either. I hope I am wrong as this was shaping up to be an epic battle between the Tech Cheetahs, BMWs and Mitch Evans!

AMKC

jv2000 wrote: »

The fact that Formula E consists of street races will be a huge disadvantage. It eliminates the possibility of behind closed doors racing and for this reason I think the rest of this season is in serious doubt.

In formula 1 the magic number for a valid championship was 10 rounds. Formula E has only raced 5 rounds so unfortunately we probably will not be able to conclude a champion either. I hope I am wrong as this was shaping up to be an epic battle between the Tech Cheetahs, BMWs and Mitch Evans!

You have a good point there alright. Could this also effect it for its next season too until a vaccine is found?

jv2000

AMKC wrote: »

You have a good point there alright. Could this also effect it for its next season too until a vaccine is found?

That is interesting. In my mind next season is very far away but the reality is November assuming this season gets written off. Maybe this is the prompt to move the series onto proper race circuits, it is surely their best mitigation strategy right now? We are probably looking at summer 2021 for a vaccine to be not only approved but manufactured in appropriate quantities for widespread usage.

Harika

jv2000 wrote: »

That is interesting. In my mind next season is very far away but the reality is November assuming this season gets written off. Maybe this is the prompt to move the series onto proper race circuits, it is surely their best mitigation strategy right now? We are probably looking at summer 2021 for a vaccine to be not only approved but manufactured in appropriate quantities for widespread usage.

18 months is the minimum, when you are optimistic. Summer 2021 is earliest. No guarantee that it won't be available until 2023, that's why cancelling whole seasons makes no sense.

jv2000

Harika wrote: »

18 months is the minimum, when you are optimistic. Summer 2021 is earliest. No guarantee that it won't be available until 2023, that's why cancelling whole seasons makes no sense.

Thats why I think behind closed doors racing could be the answer. And I am only suggesting that this season will be cancelled because logistically I do not feel they are prepared to put in the work for a switch to race circuits this year (well this season).

And a vaccine could be along way off, agreed on that point. But when one is discovered the Regulatory agencies will do everything in their power to get it on the market ASAP. Remdesivir is already available in the US and Japan, whilst in Europe it is being reviewed as we speak - all without final clinical data!

Harika

https://www.racefans.net/2020/05/24/formula-e-driver-who-gave-car-to-simracer-disqualified-from-charity-virtual-race/

Well played Daniel ABT for getting disqualified in a charity event for cheating

pjohnson

Harika wrote: »

https://www.racefans.net/2020/05/24/formula-e-driver-who-gave-car-to-simracer-disqualified-from-charity-virtual-race/

Well played Daniel ABT for getting disqualified in a charity event for cheating

And he is now "suspended" by Audi but is actually expected to not race for the team again.

ScrubsfanChris

Getting the boot probably a bit of an over reaction.
However, whats more concerning is that the mans ego is so huge he resorts to cheating in a CHARITY virtual race. Incredibly sad.....

Charlie-Bravo

Audi would want to deal with it and then distance themselves from any saga like that. They wouldn't want to be seen as a company that cheats! Stuff like that always comes back to haunt them.

pyramuid man

astrofluff wrote: »

Audi would want to deal with it and then distance themselves from any saga like that. They wouldn't want to be seen as a company that cheats! Stuff like that always comes back to haunt them.

Abt confirmed he has been dropped in a YouTube video he posted today. It's in German but has English subtitles.

https://youtu.be/9ktOUffssTA

AMKC

Harika wrote: »

https://www.racefans.net/2020/05/24/formula-e-driver-who-gave-car-to-simracer-disqualified-from-charity-virtual-race/

Well played Daniel ABT for getting disqualified in a charity event for cheating

What did he do in it to cheat?

pyramuid man

AMKC wrote: »

What did he do in it to cheat?

He got a professional sim racer to do the race from home challenge last weekend and got caught.

AMKC

pyramuid man wrote: »

He got a professional sim racer to do the race from home challenge last weekend and got caught.

Awe ok.

Inquitus

pyramuid man wrote: »

He got a professional sim racer to do the race from home challenge last weekend and got caught.

I think he's the 3rd real world driver to lose his job due to bad conduct in Sim Racing during the lockdown.

TheChrisD

Inquitus wrote: »

I think he's the 3rd real world driver to lose his job due to bad conduct in Sim Racing during the lockdown.

Second. Kyle Larson was the first, Daniel has been the second.

In between, Bubba Wallace lost a sponsor after rage quitting an eNASCAR race rather than attempting to finish; but he still has his ride.

pyramuid man

Pascal Wehrlein has left Mahindra racing with immediate effect as he has just posted on Instagram. Wonder what's happening there?

PopePalpatine

They've brought in the GOAT.

pjohnson

pyramuid man wrote: »

Pascal Wehrlein has left Mahindra racing with immediate effect as he has just posted on Instagram. Wonder what's happening there?

Hes been linked with Porsche for next year to partner Lotterer. Theres no indication they are gunna drop Jani THIS year so no idea why Wehrlein has jumped.

Unless hes been told Ferrari that they actually want him present in their F1 paddock this year as a reserve?

Harika

Maybe he needs to substitute for F1, was wondering if wrong information but he is only 25 , people like Berger only started to F1 back in the days, now he is seen as old

jv2000

Formula E is back in August, I did not expect this! 6 races in 8 days and this will close out the season. All races will be held in Berlin at Tempelhof Airport. Whilst they say there will be different track layouts I cannot get excited about this. I always found this circuit to be aesthetically boring although some of the races in the past were good. I completely understand why they are using this location but this feels like a gimmick to kill off the season....

https://www.fiaformulae.com/en/news/2020/june/berlin-announcement?utm_campaign=1441686_SEASON%206%20-%20RESTART%20-%20ENGLISH&utm_medium=email&utm_source=FORMULA%20E%20OPERATIONS%20LIMITED&dm_i=4H56,UWEU,1VAEXL,3S0RH,1

Harika

To spice it up put different airplanes in the background

AMKC

Ye that sounds a bit boring. Its not even a real racetrack. Why could they not have found a real race course where they could have done this like Silverstone or Bahrain where they have multiple track combinations already?
Will these all be aired live I wonder? I also wonder what all the drivers thing of this?

pyramuid man

Looks like Audi DTM driver Rene Rast is taking Daniel Abts seat for the rest of the season.

8 races in Berlin may not be the most exciting prospect but hallelujah, we have real cars on track again.

flazio

It's the easiest way out for them. They already have the use of the grounds, it's easy to close off to the public, they can just finish the season.
I'd love if they could set it up so that each track is raced clock wise on one day and anti clock wise on the next day.

AMKC

flazio wrote: »

It's the easiest way out for them. They already have the use of the grounds, it's easy to close off to the public, they can just finish the season.
I'd love if they could set it up so that each track is raced clock wise on one day and anti clock wise on the next day.

I don't see why they can not. I would like to see F1 do that too. The track there is modular so all they have to do is change it around a bit for each race.

flazio

The reason F1 can't is because barriers, run offs and more importantly grandstands would have been built with the intention that the cars are travelling in one particular direction.

AMKC

flazio wrote: »

The reason F1 can't is because barriers, run offs and more importantly grandstands would have been built with the intention that the cars are travelling in one particular direction.

All very good points.

Harika

flazio wrote: »

The reason F1 can't is because barriers, run offs and more importantly grandstands would have been built with the intention that the cars are travelling in one particular direction.

https://www.f1-fansite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Red-Bull-Ring-layout-2018.jpg

If you look at the red bull ring there it becomes obvious why it's not working. Turn 1,2,3 would not work without extensive rework.

pjohnson

Alex Lynn replaces Wehrlein.

AMKC

pjohnson wrote: »

Alex Lynn replaces Wehrlein.

Awe but after looking at that I think the biggest problem would be the pits.

pjohnson

Turns out Daniel Abts Formula E career isn't over. He replaces Ma at NIO for the end of the season.

pjohnson

Sam Bird will replace Calado at Jaguar next year.

Nick Cassidy expected to take over the Virgin seat.

flazio

https://twitter.com/FIAFormulaE/status/1285613041246040065?s=19

So, a reverse track is happening first weekend, then the traditional layout before finishing on a revised infield.

pjohnson

And Sette Camara replacing Hartley at Dragon.

AMKC

flazio wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FIAFormulaE/status/1285613041246040065?s=19

So, a reverse track is happening first weekend, then the traditional layout before finishing on a revised infield.

Very interesting that. At least there will be a bit of variety. It had originally said 6 races over 8 days but this is 6 races over 9 days. I wonder do will these all be televised, who will get them and how many of them will be live?

pjohnson

And another late change. Its confirmed James Calado WONT take part in all 6 Berlin races and miss at least the last two due to a clash with WEC.

Other FE drivers affected by the clash (Buemi, da Costa, Lynn) are expected currently to complete the FE season as a priority.

Rumours now that Calado may actually opt to miss more or even all FE races to focus entirely on WEC as he already knows his Formula E career is over as he already has no seat for next year.

AMKC

I see that the race round 6 is live on Virgin Three from 17.30.

flazio

Great to see a bit of live motorsports on Saorview. And a bit of decent Motorsport as well.

AMKC

Next race is today Thursday at 17. 30. Round 7.

jv2000

Yesterday's race had a very exciting finish, just about every driver had to coast over the line with 0% usable energy. I would expect that today the leaders will attempt to slow the pace a little so that there is at least one less lap at the end.

Just saw that Da Costa is on pole again, if he wins today then I don't know who will catch him, he has a good lead in the championship after yesterday and his closest championship rival Mitch Evans starts today in 17th!!

jv2000

jv2000 wrote: »

Just saw that Da Costa is on pole again, if he wins today then I don't know who will catch him

Ouch... 68 point lead with 4 races left. Great drive by Da Costa but his rivals are tripping over each other. A third consecutive drivers title for Techeetah on the cards and looks like it could be a second constructors title for them, very impressive.

Charlie-Bravo

Don't forget there's another race on at 18:00 this evening! JEV on pole with DaCosta behind in second.

ScrubsfanChris

Having to watch on Virgin Media Three for reasons. Picture quality is so bad I can barely make out the drivers name/times on the left of the screen.

antodeco

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

Having to watch on Virgin Media Three for reasons. Picture quality is so bad I can barely make out the drivers name/times on the left of the screen.

Not have HD I assume?

Gooey Looey

antodeco wrote: »

Not have HD I assume?

Not in hd on saorview

ScrubsfanChris

antodeco wrote: »

Not have HD I assume?

Would normally watch it on BBC but this ones on the iplayer.
Still charging a premium for HD in 2020 is just a scam.

Gooey Looey

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

Would normally watch it on BBC but this ones on the iplayer.
Still charging a premium for HD in 2020 is just a scam.

I'm Virgin medias case they're penny pinching refusing to pay for hd carriage on saorview, this has been the way since TV3 days. It's poor quality, not only is it SD but it's a low bitrate, blocky

AMKC

The first few of these races were ok but today's was just a borefest. Yes they are all close together but what's the point if no one is passing and yes there was some but nothing great. I actually think yesterdays Saturdays race was the best one so far. The next two races are going to be interesting on the extended track. Will that mean less laps I wonder.

PopePalpatine

Quali was a glorious shitshow, only Guenther and Evans were able to set laptimes in the first quali group as all 4 previous champions squabbled for position Monza 2019-style and crossed the line too late to set a laptime. :pac: