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General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

  • 20-08-2020 9:30am
    #1
    DM_7
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,405 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Mod Note 17/12/2020

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115636387&postcount=7396
    DM_7 wrote: »
    Mod: I have observed too much sniping included in some of the posts made in recent pages.

    Please note posters should take care to ensure they are engaging with others in an actual discussion and not just posting to 'snipe' at the views other have presented. Posters should be making an effort to have a discussion if commenting on other posts.

    Our charter notes that posters: should be prepared to argue cogently and coherently in support of your argument. Repeating the same point over and over again without addressing counter arguments is not advisable. It is your responsibility to ensure that you contribute in a positive manner, that does not mean you have to agree with everyone else but you must avoid deliberate disruption of the forum.

    This post does not mean posts already made that appear as a breach of charter will get a 'free pass'. Posters are reminded that it is recommended to report any posts they feel are an attempt to disrupt.

    Thank you also to the many posters who have engaged in positive discussion.


    Mod Note: 19/11/2020
    Please do not make negative comments about supporters who have a preference for club football
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115348944&postcount=4796



    Mod Note: 12 November 2020 Note: Cards are and will be given to posters who are only commenting on the validity of others posts.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115266785&postcount=4601


    Mod Note: we have had enough of the extra letters in players names now in general threads. Anymore posts like that are not welcome as they are drawing a negative reaction instead of adding to the thread. It is easier to simply type a players name.

    Example of not okay: JAAAAMESSSS RODRIGGUEEEZZZZ

    Example of okay: Great stuff from James.



    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114820658&postcount=2287

    Mod note re Harry Maguire Case:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114376187&postcount=76
    Update [27 August 2020] A thread about the case was set up and should be used for discussion rather than the general premier league thread: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058107642



    https://www.premierleague.com/news/1754980
    Premier League 2020/21 fixtures released



    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53846138
    Champions Liverpool will face Championship winners Leeds United in the standout opening weekend game of the 2020-21 Premier League season.

    Championship play-off winners Fulham will host Arsenal, while West Bromwich Albion, the third promoted side, are at home to Leicester City.

    The opening round of fixtures will take place on the weekend of 12 September.

    However, Manchester City v Aston Villa and Burnley v Manchester United will be rearranged.

    Those two games will not be played on the opening weekend to give City and United 30 days since their defeats in the quarter-finals of the Champions League and the semi-finals of the Europa League respectively.


    Chelsea and Wolverhampton Wanderers' opening matches are both scheduled for Monday, 14 September after their slightly earlier European exits.

    The Blues are at Brighton, while Wolves go to Sheffield United.

    The other opening weekend fixtures are Crystal Palace v Southampton, Tottenham Hotspur v Everton and West Ham United v Newcastle United.

    Exact dates and kick-off times will be confirmed when the television selections are made. Matches will be played behind closed doors amid the coronavirus pandemic.

    Fixture congestion incoming
    With the season starting a month later than usual because of the Covid-19 pandemic, the games will come thick and fast.

    The upcoming campaign will be five weeks shorter than a standard season because of the late end to 2019-20 - and the winter break has been scrapped.

    Arsenal and Liverpool meet in the Community Shield on 29 August, with players then going on an international break for the Nations League before the Premier League starts.

    Manchester City v Aston Villa could be played on 15 September, with Burnley v Manchester United the following day - although that is yet to be confirmed.

    Those are the dates Premier League clubs not in Europe enter the Carabao Cup at the second round.

    Rounds two to four of that competition, which will involve top-flight sides, will be played midweek on 15-16, 22-23 and 29-30 September.

    Spurs start Europa League qualifying on 17 September and could end up with two first-team matches in the same midweek.

    There are rounds of Premier League games due on 26 December, 28 December and 2 January over the festive period.

    The final league fixtures will be on 23 May 2021 - eight days after the FA Cup final.

    The Champions League final is on 29 May, with the delayed Euro 2020 starting on 11 June.


    2019/20 thread: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058082314


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Comments

  • #2
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Thank goodness the football is back! :D

    There are just 14 games before Christmas, the FA Cup is now a one match per round format


  • #3
    Father Hernandez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭Father Hernandez


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Thank goodness the football is back! :D

    There are just 14 games before Christmas, the FA Cup is now a one match per round format

    What was it last season and previously?

    Doesn't feel like a lot but prob cause we've had wall to wall football recently.


  • #4
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Hmm, maybe your implied point is correct.

    edit 18 (17 for Liverpool and West Ham due to CWC) last season so 50/50 pre/post Christmas


  • #5
    citytillidie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Father Hernandez wrote: »
    What was it last season and previously?

    Doesn't feel like a lot but prob cause we've had wall to wall football recently.

    It’s usually 18 / 19 games in the Stephens Day fixtures

    ******



  • #6
    gimli2112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    Our year was last year, I wonder what this year will bring?


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  • #7
    Baggly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Things im looking forward to this year in this thread;
    • The table that does showing which team is on which points level (thats a bad description but you know the one)
    • Non-tribal bantz
    • PLENTY of Fulham chat (its mostly gonna be commiserating / slagging but sure what can you do)
    • Someone posts a pic of something we all agree with and we still find a way to debate it

    Things im not looking forward to this year in this thread;
    • Net spend chat
    • My da' could beat up your da'; Manager edition
    • Someone saying the league isnt competitive for whatever convoluted reason (most lkely by matchday 2)


  • #8
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Are you dissing the most visually accurate way of representing the points?


  • #9
    Baggly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Harry Palmr wrote:
    Are you dissing the most visually accurate way of representing the points?


    No, the opposite!


  • #10
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Doh it's early in my head. Its certainly good for an argument! :D


  • #11
    DM_7
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,405 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/1296366390790762496?s=20


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  • #12
    gimli2112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    from a quick review of the fixture list I can see the PL regrets giving Liverpool all those dodgy VAR decisions last year putting us away to Chelsea, Everton and Man city in the first few games. Unlikely to be over by Christmas this year.


  • #13
    Baggly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Ill take those opening 3 matches (Arsenal H, Leeds A, Villa H).


  • #14
    Talisman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,198 ✭✭✭Talisman


    West Ham really got shat upon with the opening fixtures.

    Newcastle (H)
    Arsenal (A)
    Wolves (H)
    Leicester (A)
    Tottenham (A)
    Man City (H)
    Liverpool (A)


  • #15
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,128 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    How the hell is the new season only 3 weeks away :pac:


  • #16
    brinty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Thank goodness the football is back! :D

    There are just 14 games before Christmas, the FA Cup is now a one match per round format

    Fa cup has always been one match per round


  • #17
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,351 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Talisman wrote: »
    West Ham really got shat upon with the opening fixtures.

    Newcastle (H)
    Arsenal (A)
    Wolves (H)
    Leicester (A)
    Tottenham (A)
    Man City (H)
    Liverpool (A)

    Ouch. All the big boys and Newcastle as well.

    Edit: United not there.


  • #18
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,178 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    brinty wrote: »
    Fa cup has always been one match per round

    I assume he means no replays. Every drawn match goes straight to extra time and pens rather than a replay.


  • #19
    jacool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭jacool


    Right, that's my Last Man Standing schedule done up to Christmas and didn't have to pick West Ham or WBA :)


  • #20
    dubmick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭dubmick


    bit silly going back to normal tv schedule for the new season with empty stadiums


  • #21
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,808 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    I think City will win it this season with Liverpool second,

    The big difference for me is no fans ,
    Anfield crowd will be a huge miss in big games for Liverpool ,
    City play with less emotion in there play and thus won't be effected as much,


    That's my two cents


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  • #22
    adaminho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Any idea when the tv schedule is out? I know Chelsea and Wolves games have to be on the Monday at the earliest.


  • #23
    bennyineire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭bennyineire


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    I think City will win it this season with Liverpool second,

    The big difference for me is no fans ,
    Anfield crowd will be a huge miss in big games for Liverpool ,
    City play with less emotion in there play and thus won't be effected as much,


    That's my two cents

    Liverpool with the best away record for the last 2 seasons :)


  • #24
    brinty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    yourdeadwright wrote:
    The big difference for me is no fans , Anfield crowd will be a huge miss in big games for Liverpool , City play with less emotion in there play and thus won't be effected as much,

    I'm not disagreeing with you here but if a team needs fans to perform that's a pretty damning statement. Not levelling this at Liverpool it applies to all but I'm truly baffled if players can't do a job they're highly paid for because there's no one there singing or applauding them.

    Claiming one team will perform better than another in the same circumstances is a bit of a stretch. Get a grip of yourselves. And the conditions are the same for everyone so there's no advantage.

    As for this Anfield crowd means more. Don't make me sick. Every teams crowd is great when they're winning and poor when they're losing. You don't need to respond on this cos saying anything more, I've my views and you won't change them.


  • #25
    Fitz*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,030 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    adaminho wrote: »
    Any idea when the tv schedule is out? I know Chelsea and Wolves games have to be on the Monday at the earliest.

    I'm gonna take a guess that Liverpool v Leeds will be on the Friday night. Sky will be eager for that game, and to have it as the season opener.

    It's PL Champions v Championship Champions, who are coming back after a long break from the PL, which will be a big selling point for them.


  • #26
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    dubmick wrote: »
    bit silly going back to normal tv schedule for the new season with empty stadiums

    Should reduce fixture congestion though.


  • #27
    adaminho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Fitz* wrote: »
    I'm gonna take a guess that Liverpool v Leeds will be on the Friday night. Sky will be eager for that game, and to have it as the season opener.

    It's PL Champions v Championship Champions, who are coming back after a long break from the PL, which will be a big selling point for them.

    Is there a Friday game? I thought the season can't start till the 12th. Open to correction, I'm just glad I'm in the premier league thread after 16 years!


  • #28
    Fitz*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,030 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    adaminho wrote: »
    Is there a Friday game? I thought the season can't start till the 12th. Open to correction, I'm just glad I'm in the premier league thread after 16 years!

    Oh possibly? Not sure if there is restrictions this year, but last season the opener was Liverpool v Norwich on Friday night.


  • #29
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,808 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    brinty wrote: »
    I'm not disagreeing with you here but if a team needs fans to perform that's a pretty damning statement. Not levelling this at Liverpool it applies to all but I'm truly baffled if players can't do a job they're highly paid for because there's no one there singing or applauding them.

    Claiming one team will perform better than another in the same circumstances is a bit of a stretch. Get a grip of yourselves. And the conditions are the same for everyone so there's no advantage.

    As for this Anfield crowd means more. Don't make me sick. Every teams crowd is great when they're winning and poor when they're losing. You don't need to respond on this cos saying anything more, I've my views and you won't change them.

    Your allowed your views ,

    So if we take your view playing home or away is the same ?It gives no advantage ? as you said players are played to do the same job against the same opposition so conditions that match are played around should have no effect ?

    You said "Claiming one team will perform better than another in the same circumstances is a bit of a stretch " what kind of nonsense is that of course you can claim that ? Isn't that why there are favourites and underdogs ?

    Teams play a different kind of football and some are better at home than away, Its just a FACT ,

    Countless world class players have mentioned because of the fans its one of the toughest places in world football , Even Pep said it countless times but there all wrong BRINTY knows best ,


  • #30
    Mushy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Fitz* wrote: »
    Oh possibly? Not sure if there is restrictions this year, but last season the opener was Liverpool v Norwich on Friday night.

    I do recall seeing something bout no friday game at start of this season. Even the whole thing about the press releases saying pl will return on the 12th would have me thinking it's the Saturday. A 7.45 Saturday kickoff would be perfect, imagine itll be 12.30 though


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  • #31
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    An English football crowd is laughable describing it as a tough place due to the fans. I'd say Palace have the loudest fans in the PL but if you want a mad atmosphere look at the Turks or South Americans etc.

    Pretty much all European football grounds would be more lively than English.


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