Options for enforcing no parking on a private road

Sittingpretty wrote: »

I think that’s entirely unfair.

Personally was trying to ascertain if parents had any other choice but to park in your estate or not.

They are effectively parking in someone else’s drive; they have no right or entitlement. I despair when I read stuff like your post. It’s a short step from this to parking on pavements, in disabled bays and on corners just because you can’t be arsed to deal with the rules.

Sittingpretty wrote: »

I don’t live in an estate and couldn’t be paid enough to do so. I live in the countryside, there is no path outside my house though, occasionally people park their cars outside my house to walk their dogs in nearby woods. Again I’ve no issue with this.

My children attend a country school 20 minutes drive from my house at which I park at the church car park and walk them to the gates.

I’m not your problem here.

I think you’ve received good advice here. Best of luck.

You are comparing apples with potatoes. You don’t own the toad outside your house. If you have set back your front wall to ensure sight lines, you are perfectly entitled to set it up in a manner to preclude parking. Otherwise they are parking on a public road.

This is an entirely different situation. Cyrus and his neighbours paid for the roads to be built (as part of their new build price) and they will pay to insure and maintain them via their service charges. They will need to ensure themselves against people walking and slipping/falling on the roads and paths to claim money. There is no god given or otherwise available right to park on probate property. Driving into your drive contravenes the law in precisely the same manner as parking in thet estate.

spyderski wrote: »

It’s different because your driveway is unambiguously your property. The road through your estate is, by definition open to the public. Do you also want to stop bin lorries, tradesmen etc using the road to access properties in your estate?

I think this problem is symptomatic of people being forced to live in communal type developments due to the land value. This is why I bought a detached house on its own plot. I couldn’t afford to buy a detached house in the same area now - I’d be also forced to buy in one of these communal developments. Council policy to increase housing density is also to blame.

An ungated driveway is similarly “open to the public”, your assertions carry no water.

salamiii wrote: »

put up a barrier you all might have to pay 100 euro each

They’ve paid 900k+ for the houses and likely 2k or more in management fees annually. I don’t think you see that the cost is not the issue.

Kowerski wrote: »

No it isn't

It’s the same mé féin attitude. The worst parking in all Dublin is around schools. I hve seen parents drive up onto pavements only a few feet from toddlers to avoid slowing down traffic but with no thought as to how the tiny child might perceive a large metal object coming towards them at speed.

I am hugely fat with bad knees and a hatred of exercise. I never, repeat never, park where I can establish i am not permitted to park. If a passenger wants to get out, I’ll make them walk from a lawful safe space. I don’t see my personal desires as being more important than those of others.

Cyrus wrote: »

If the sign on your way into a private estate says it’s private

It’s probably private

Ok, I've never seen that, so you live in an estate and when you drive in there is a sign that says private estate residents only and people are ignoring it ?

C3PO wrote: »

Who actually owns the road? I would look into the legals around clamping people's cars - there are various requirements around signage etc.

Cyrus wrote: »

the residents, and yes im aware that there are requirements around signage

What kind of estate is this that the residents own the roads yet you're looking for the council to take charge of it? The roads and common areas are usually the property of the developer prior to the council taking charge.

Sounds like you're assuming the residents own it.

spyderski wrote: »

Probably. Or the other possibility is the residents have put them up in a mistaken belief that the property is actually private.

I once parked on a side street in Rathmines and was told by a aggressive man that it was private parking and residents only. I just left but there were no signs, now this was in 1995 iirc a d I hadn't thoughg about it till today.

iwillhtfu wrote: »

What kind of estate is this that the residents own the roads yet you're looking for the council to take charge of it? The roads and common areas are usually the property of the developer prior to the council taking charge.

Sounds like you're assuming the residents own it.

My brother lives in an estate and it was taken in charge by the council this year and he's very happy about it. Did he own it and the council donnow ?

Has this always happened but ue never noticed because you were at work and when work from home started the schools were shut?

Cyrus wrote: »

It’s not limited to the school we have had issues with people parking as long as I have been here , mostly visiting people in houses down the road and then also using our estate as a place to walk their dogs as the view is nice and it’s a place for them to defecate freely it would seem.

I'd have serious issues with the dog dirt but is that not something you could use to your advantage ? Get some of the dirt analysed and there will likely be something in it that will be a danger to the local kids or dogs and use this as leverage . Next as a group of high net worth individuals you should employ someone to lobby on your behalf in order to get automatic gates approved. Nothing is set in stone and any spend will more than be made up for in the resulting gain in house prices.