Sittingpretty wrote: » I think that’s entirely unfair. Personally was trying to ascertain if parents had any other choice but to park in your estate or not.
Sittingpretty wrote: » I don’t live in an estate and couldn’t be paid enough to do so. I live in the countryside, there is no path outside my house though, occasionally people park their cars outside my house to walk their dogs in nearby woods. Again I’ve no issue with this. My children attend a country school 20 minutes drive from my house at which I park at the church car park and walk them to the gates. I’m not your problem here. I think you’ve received good advice here. Best of luck.
salamiii wrote: » put up a barrier you all might have to pay 100 euro each
spyderski wrote: » It’s different because your driveway is unambiguously your property. The road through your estate is, by definition open to the public. Do you also want to stop bin lorries, tradesmen etc using the road to access properties in your estate? I think this problem is symptomatic of people being forced to live in communal type developments due to the land value. This is why I bought a detached house on its own plot. I couldn’t afford to buy a detached house in the same area now - I’d be also forced to buy in one of these communal developments. Council policy to increase housing density is also to blame.
Niner leprauchan wrote: » Ridiculous parking but not relevant to this thread
Marcusm wrote: » They are effectively parking in someone else’s drive; they have no right or entitlement. I despair when I read stuff like your post. It’s a short step from this to parking on pavements, in disabled bays and on corners just because you can’t be arsed to deal with the rules.
Kowerski wrote: » No it isn't
Marcusm wrote: » They’ve paid 900k+ for the houses and likely 2k or more in management fees annually. I don’t think you see that the cost is not the issue.
spyderski wrote: » If cost is not the issue, given their concerns for privacy, they should probably have spent another €200k and bought a house on its own site. As I said, buyers remorse.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » The frequency has no impact on the legality. Parking on private property is illegal - trespass. That's the bottom line. If you're not sure that you're on a public road, then don't park there - simple.
Cyrus wrote: » If the sign on your way into a private estate says it’s private It’s probably private
C3PO wrote: » Who actually owns the road? I would look into the legals around clamping people's cars - there are various requirements around signage etc.
Cyrus wrote: » the residents, and yes im aware that there are requirements around signage
spyderski wrote: » Probably. Or the other possibility is the residents have put them up in a mistaken belief that the property is actually private.
iwillhtfu wrote: » What kind of estate is this that the residents own the roads yet you're looking for the council to take charge of it? The roads and common areas are usually the property of the developer prior to the council taking charge. Sounds like you're assuming the residents own it.
Cyrus wrote: » We do the council aren’t taking charge of it , I have pointed that out several times .
Marcusm wrote: » You are comparing apples with potatoes. You don’t own the toad outside your house. If you have set back your front wall to ensure sight lines, you are perfectly entitled to set it up in a manner to preclude parking. Otherwise they are parking on a public road. This is an entirely different situation. Cyrus and his neighbours paid for the roads to be built (as part of their new build price) and they will pay to insure and maintain them via their service charges. They will need to ensure themselves against people walking and slipping/falling on the roads and paths to claim money. There is no god given or otherwise available right to park on probate property. Driving into your drive contravenes the law in precisely the same manner as parking in thet estate.
iwillhtfu wrote: » You can't just say you own it because the council haven't taken charge of it. Did ye all buy the land and develop it or something.
Cyrus wrote: » They aren’t taking charge of it it’s not that they haven’t , they never will. Developer bought the land and developed it, once all the houses were sold the omc which owns and manages the common areas on behalf of the residents was transferred to us . Who do you think owns the land ?
Vestiapx wrote: » Has this always happened but ue never noticed because you were at work and when work from home started the schools were shut?
iwillhtfu wrote: » I'd have said the developer or possibly nama but not the residents.
iwillhtfu wrote: » I'd have said the developer or possibly nama but not the residents. I'm not sure why the council would take charge of an estate they believe to be owned or accessed privately it sounds like a nightmare scenario for them to try maintain roads, lighting etc. I'd say there main reason is it's incomplete development. Were there more houses planned?
Graham wrote: » You'd be wrong in the case of many recent developments. It is quite usual for the shared spaces to transfer to the Owners Management Company (OMC) upon completion. Each resident is a shareholder in the OMC so they do collectively own the estate.
Cyrus wrote: » It’s not limited to the school we have had issues with people parking as long as I have been here , mostly visiting people in houses down the road and then also using our estate as a place to walk their dogs as the view is nice and it’s a place for them to defecate freely it would seem.
iwillhtfu wrote: » Perhaps it's a Dublin thing as I know of plenty of completed developments yet none with management companies. If that's the case I fail to see why OP can't just do as previously mentioned and put in gates or clamping and forget about the council taking charge as it obviously wont happen.
