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Corona virus and social protection

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,056 ✭✭✭sticker


    From Blanch Social Welfare Office

    Good morning,

    All appointments are cancelled. Please apply online using form COVID-UP

    Kind regards,

    Susan


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice


    Are they having people download application forms and post them or is that scrapped

    Seems unnecessary bureaucracy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    “ If you’re given a temporary lay off then subject to your PRSI record”

    If you’ve just received your PPS number because you are new to working in Ireland. How does this affect you?

    Asking for someone, who’s just moved here a couple of months ago, from Italy......

    That person is going to apply for SWA not Benefit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Syncpolice wrote: »
    Are they having people download application forms and post them or is that scrapped

    Seems unnecessary bureaucracy

    How else would you get benefits other then applying for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice


    splinter65 wrote: »
    How else would you get benefits other then applying for them.

    Online


  • Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭redunited


    splinter65 wrote: »
    How else would you get benefits other then applying for them.

    I think a better way would have been for effected businesses to make a claim to the state directly for their employees. This way some companies could top up the wages of their staff if possible, alternative the person remains employed with the emplyer paying them the social payment.

    A lot less hassle and fuss.

    It also keeps a lot of business going, nobody knows how long this will last and a lot of people may never return to their employer as they will be forced to find work elsewhere.


  • Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭redunited


    Does anyone know what happens if you are claiming Working Family Payment and now need to claim the COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment?

    Will they automatically stop the working fmaily payment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    https://www.gov.ie/en/service/be74d3-covid-19-pandemic-unemployment-payment/

    There's a PDF form to download and post. Doing it NOW.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭Curlysue76


    redunited wrote: »
    Does anyone know what happens if you are claiming Working Family Payment and now need to claim the COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment?

    Will they automatically stop the working fmaily payment?

    Yes they do, they’ll ‘suspend’ it. So I guess we don’t have to start a new claim after all this passes. And this too will pass.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭drake70


    sticker wrote: »
    Thanks - What website is best to check for updates?

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/99104a-covid-19-coronavirus/


  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭eildar


    Can someone tell me where to send the form online. It's just telling me to download and post it.


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    eildar wrote: »
    Can someone tell me where to send the form online. It's just telling me to download and post it.

    My welfare is where you usually apply online for out of work payments. They don't mention Corona on the site yet though which is typical.

    Google it. I cant post link, as I'm new user


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Lashes28


    I get one parent and wfp. I've been let go today,do I need to fill out this covid form too??


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Yes but and I think this is relevant, post offices have large crowds of people, would that not be a place where people would catch the Corona Virus from someone and pass it onto a half dozen people in the same room?

    In large groups together yes absolutely so.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    I get one parent and wfp. I've been let go today,do I need to fill out this covid form too??

    Yes you do and ASAP.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    redunited wrote: »
    I think a better way would have been for effected businesses to make a claim to the state directly for their employees. This way some companies could top up the wages of their staff if possible, alternative the person remains employed with the emplyer paying them the social payment.

    A lot less hassle and fuss.

    It also keeps a lot of business going, nobody knows how long this will last and a lot of people may never return to their employer as they will be forced to find work elsewhere.

    This was announced yesterday

    https://twitter.com/welfare_ie/status/1239469619901075456?s=21

    https://twitter.com/welfare_ie/status/1239469621335465985?s=21

    My only advice is for people to have a little understanding while all of this is being worked out. AFAIK DEASP have drafted in help from other departments but with so many moving parts, it’s inevitable that some mistakes will be made. Everybody will be doing their best to keep this thing on the road.

    Keep an eye on www.gov.ie and the welfare twitter account as procedures could change at any time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    I'm on x and o's and finished work today till this all blows over

    What way am I fixed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    I get one parent and wfp. I've been let go today,do I need to fill out this covid form too??

    No. Your OPF will go up to max for you. Unfortunately you won’t get JSB too. Ring your local office or better still go up and put a note in the door.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Yes you do and ASAP.

    This person can’t get JSB too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    I'm on x and o's and finished work today till this all blows over

    What way am I fixed

    Fill up the emergency form and the UP1 if you have dependents.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Fill up the emergency form and the UP1 if you have dependents.

    any links to where i can fill out form ??


  • Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭pelluci


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    I'm on x and o's and finished work today till this all blows over

    What way am I fixed

    If you're on X and o's and can get your employer to still sign your dockets, just send them in with 6 X's on them. You're already on jobseekers, so there's no need to apply for the emergency payment. If you can't get your employer to sign them, ring Intreo and ask about self certifying, or switching back to fully unemployed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 118 ✭✭marguerite2000


    Hi can someone advise me ,i got laid of today as well im on dissibility allowance and worked part time and my payment was reduced ,how do i go about getting my full payment reinstated iv tried ring DA but phone not even ringing it just cuts out ,im waiting on a letter from my employer can i just email them when i recieve it .thanks ,
    The covid
    -19 Jobseekers one, i dont think aplies to me .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Hi can someone advise me ,i got laid of today as well im on dissibility allowance and worked part time and my payment was reduced ,how do i go about getting my full payment reinstated iv tried ring DA but phone not even ringing it just cuts out ,im waiting on a letter from my employer can i just email them when i recieve it .thanks ,
    The covid
    -19 Jobseekers one, i dont think aplies to me .

    Write a letter to your local office telling them what’s happened. Don’t forget to put your PPSN in it. Go up to the office and put it in the letterbox. Don’t go in. They’ll sort it out for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    any links to where i can fill out form ??

    Fill in the form at the bottom of this page:
    https://www.gov.ie/en/...payments-for-employ/

    Also fill in this longer form:
    https://www.gov.ie/en/...nefit-self-employed/

    Best of luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Fill in the form at the bottom of this page:
    https://www.gov.ie/en/...payments-for-employ/

    Also fill in this longer form:
    https://www.gov.ie/en/...nefit-self-employed/

    Best of luck!

    Pages down

    Getting error message


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭jrosen


    How does this all work with part time workers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,951 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    just a quick query. working away as normal in our line of work, but could change quickly, as it would not be considered necessary work if it came to it. I can pay any lads not working the €200 odd euro , rather than them having to apply. If it does happen, is there a form I will have to fill out in advance, or try claim back afterwards (sounds messier).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭angela1711


    Hi, was just wondering can you claim this new temporary jobseekers benefit even if your place of employment is still open ? I had a quick look at t form and you don’t even need an employers stamp or signature. I hate the thought of going into work and having to deal with a dozen of people, co-workers and customers. Plus I had recently returned from abroad and ifs to early to say whether I did get the disease myself or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,510 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    You mean can you lie and fraudulently claim a state payment during an epidemic when staff are already up the walls?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,617 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Is this a means tested payment ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    From what I've seen is they want employers to pay staff if at all possible and the guberment will pay this back.....
    €203 payment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Pages down

    Getting error message

    Ring your citizens info centre in the morning. They’re closed to the public but they’ll post them out to you. Our centre has left piles of them on a table in the lobby.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭angela1711


    You mean can you lie and fraudulently claim a state payment during an epidemic when staff are already up the walls?

    I don’t work in a shop or anything. I don’t even know why the place is still open. We did close today but as far as I am aware they are going to reopen on Wednesday. Plus they kind of brake the social distancing rules as you have to deal with customers face to face and there is often more then 50 people in the building. Plus how do I know if am not sick myself, the symptoms don’t show up straight away. What if i am and can pass it on to a large number of people. It’s just pure stupidity that they haven’t closed the place down already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,155 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    angela1711 wrote:
    Hi, was just wondering can you claim this new temporary jobseekers benefit even if your place of employment is still open ? I had a quick look at t form and you don’t even need an employers stamp or signature. I hate the thought of going into work and having to deal with a dozen of people, co-workers and customers. Plus I had recently returned from abroad and ifs to early to say whether I did get the disease myself or not.


    Things are going to get a lot worse. I'd suggest putting up with work for now and holding off getting this limited benefit. Keep it for when you really need it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭angela1711


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Things are going to get a lot worse. I'd suggest putting up with work for now and holding off getting this limited benefit. Keep it for when you really need it

    From what I understand you initially get if for 6 weeks with the simple form and then you have to fill in the proper form. So if your work was to be closed for longer then 6 weeks you just have to fill in the proper jobseekers application and will continue to receive the payment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    form attached because the website is crashing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭plhealy2000


    Can someone who is receiving a contributory pension and is now out of work claim the emergency payment.
    Obviously, they can't apply for Jobseekers afterwards but not clear from the guidance whether they can get the emergency payment for up to 6 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Can someone who is receiving a contributory pension and is now out of work claim the emergency payment.
    Obviously, they can't apply for Jobseekers afterwards but not clear from the guidance whether they can get the emergency payment for up to 6 weeks.

    There’s a general SW law that only allows one payment (except for certain carers payments) but honestly, no one here can definitely tell you about this new payment


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 LiamKK


    Does anyone know if turas nua appointments have been affected. I tried to call the office today and no answer. I'm asking because i have to travel by bus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Can someone who is receiving a contributory pension and is now out of work claim the emergency payment.
    Obviously, they can't apply for Jobseekers afterwards but not clear from the guidance whether they can get the emergency payment for up to 6 weeks.

    No


  • Registered Users Posts: 638 ✭✭✭gary550


    Just wondering if anyone could advise what the situation would be for a proprietary director and the covid-up payment?

    In the last month I have stopped self employment and started trading through a limited company, I haven't even took a wage yet and its looking like the next few months will be tough & unlikely I will be able to pay myself.

    Do you have to have a certain amount of PRSI contributions etc? Will I be treated as an employee rather than self employed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭Curlysue76


    Hi. Just got an email from Social Welfare, my payment has been approved and first payment due in bank on Thursday. So they are working very fast and hopefully no one will have to wait too long. This is a weight of my mind to say the least. Stay safe everyone and remember this too shall pass xx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Is there a way of applying online for the emergency thing ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Laserb


    Hi for those of you that have childminders who mind in their home, will you be paying any fees during the lock down? Presumably childminder's can avail of the emergency social welfare payment..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Curlysue76 wrote: »
    Hi. Just got an email from Social Welfare, my payment has been approved and first payment due in bank on Thursday. So they are working very fast and hopefully no one will have to wait too long. This is a weight of my mind to say the least. Stay safe everyone and remember this too shall pass xx

    Sounds like they’re working on Paddy’s too. Fair play


  • Registered Users Posts: 349 ✭✭yogibear77


    Yes they are all working today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Curious can you apply if working abroad?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice


    Are people downloading and posting.off forms

    Or is there a way to get it all done online?

    Would be great.if all employers.just paid the 200 if they can


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Syncpolice wrote: »
    Are people downloading and posting.off forms

    Or is there a way to get it all done online?

    Would be great.if all employers.just paid the 200 if they can


    You can apply online at MyWelfare.ie if you have a MyGovID login.


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