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Revolut Megathread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,920 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Synch was an ok name but Yippay was absolutely awful. How did they come up with that name.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    From the first time i heard it, it struck me as something “catchy” and “relevant” that a committee of elderly well-padded and very well-remunerated male bankers came up with in order to appeal to “young people”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,782 ✭✭✭beachhead


    Revolut have a selective interest in the Irish market.For instance I cannot link my credit union account when applying for a credit card or loan



  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭Barrett1234


    If you have an iPhone you can use Apple Pay. AIB to revolut is instant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,342 ✭✭✭markpb


    There’s a bizarre condition in the Open Banking part of PSD that lets each financial institution implement Open Banking APIs differently. There are standards but banks are free to ignore them and even if they do implement them, the only way to find out is by testing it. Revolut don’t do AISP themselves, they use TrueLayer to do it so they rely on them to add or validate support for each financial institution. Your local credit union is probably very low on that list.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Airgunster


    @the_amazing_raisin Do you know by any chance how one would pay / report taxes on Bunq deposit account? As far as I understand they are in Netherlands and so interest gained has to be reported / paid to the Revenue? I guess it can be done via Form 11 (but wanted to check details, if you know by any chance).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭optiplexgx270


    Form 12 tax return there is a section under other income called EU deposit interest. If you are paye and earn >5k in other income you have to do a form 11 but if under 5k you can fill in that part on the form 12.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Airgunster


    @optiplexgx270 Thanks! Form 11 actually also has that field (just checked it, as I'm interested on Form 11 details). Do you happen to know how / when EU deposit interest needs to be paid to the Revenue? (as I understand it could be tricky for some EU deposits if you earn interest yearly and not monthly / daily so you could miss detailed statement of interest earned at the time when you need to report it to the Revenue)

    Btw, in case of Bunq, as far as I understand they will withhold Netherlands tax by default unless you tell them you're Irish resident and so you'll be paying / reporting this to the Revenue by yourself?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,465 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Unreal.

    I was going on the 25 per day that I just checked in Dublin.

    I will certainly use this lots.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,782 ✭✭✭beachhead


    It must be.But I don't see any credit unions listed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,920 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Are credit unions included in the open banking requirements? I thought it was only banks

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭jj880


    Getting told every few days now I have to submit a tax id number by June 2nd to "keep access to all Revolut features"

    I dont have any payments to hide. I add between 1000 and 1500 on average per month and all from my EBS current account to Revolut. I just don't like doing anything involving the Revenue as it usually triggers some headache thats a pain in the hole to sort out.

    Has anyone not bothered to add this tax id? Do Revolut suspend your account if you dont give this information?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 32 TWIreland


    Is it worth upgrading to metal if you were to put 100K into the savings account. What interest would you get back on this and is it only guaranteed to 22k?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭feargantae


    If you don't give them your PPSN they'll limit your account. I gave it to them and I suppose it's for sharing with Revenue to see who's delacring their "foreign" bank accounts.

    I did get asked to explain every transaction/transfer I made all year though. They wanted me to say "1/Jan, sent €X. Reason Y. Source of funds Z". For every single transaction for the entire year. I told them no, that the money was being received/transferred and spent in a Revolut account, they can see all that info themselves and that I wasn't willing to waste my time regurgitating all that info. Suddenly my account was verified again so YMMV



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Just got the notification myself today, popped in my PPSN and my account was verified instantly.

    I think Revolut might be required by law to have that available for Revenue.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,782 ✭✭✭beachhead


    I ignored/postponed doing anything last year.When I logged in to look again at requests about a week or 2 later it was gone Still have my account



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭jj880


    Yeah Ive ignored it a few times previously but it was a request to add tax ID those times.

    This is a the first time Revolut have said they'll limit my account if I dont give it.

    I'll ignore it and see what they do in June...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,017 ✭✭✭bren2001




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,256 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    I gave Revolut my pps number and haven't heard a peep since.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭optiplexgx270


    It's standard and mandatory practice for all banking bodies to request it. People don't even question it opening a AIB/BOI etc. account when it's requested by them. It's absolutely nothing to care about unless you are scamming tax. When's the last time revenue contacted you about your banking activities regardless of bank?



  • Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭Kirm2


    Looking for some contact information please for Revolut. A payment was sent to me a month ago from a bank account, sender has provided all the proof that it was actually sent, but I haven't received it into my Revolut account. The website assistant bot is absolutely no help at all.

    Does anyone have a phone number or email for an actual person please?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭Yggr of Asgard


    Phone Support is only available for ULTRA customers (as callback).

    If you don't get a satisfactory answer via the bot or CS you can log a complaint via a form or e-mail as outlined here:

    Complaints Policy | Revolut Ireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭amber2


    Can the senders bank, if bricks and mortar bank put a tracer on the payment.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Proof that it was sent does not mean it arrived at the receiving bank and a receiving bank can only run a trace on what has been received by them. A sending bank can run a trace on what the sent up to the point it reached the receiving bank. So while trying to chase down Revolut, I also push bank on the sender to get their bank to do a trace. You'll probably need this in any case to push bank on Revolut in any case.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,920 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    For anyone transferring dollars into the US account, what's the correspondent BIC/SWIFT for? It's for Chase bank I think

    The US based account I was transferring from kept complaining about the Revolut Ireland BIC saying it couldn't accept dollars (even though that worked before)

    Should I have used the correspondent one instead?

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users Posts: 32 TWIreland


    Is there a maximum amount that interest can be earned on in the flexi savings account?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,920 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I couldn't find a cut off amount for the interest rate, but it's worth remembering the deposit is only insured up to €22k. So you might want to consider the risks if putting more in

    If you're looking for protection under the EU wide deposit scheme, and a better interest rate than the middle finger that Irish banks are offering, then N26 might be a good option since they have a traditional savings account

    I think Bunq and Trade Republic also have conventional savings accounts with decent rates

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Qrt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,920 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    NOTE: Apologies if this is a double post. My previous post got flagged for approval because of a site issue and seems to have disappeared now


    Has anyone used Wise and can compare it to Revolut? Was it relatively seamless to use?

    I have some use for a local US bank account which Wise provides, so I'm considering signing up

    I've also been looking for a backup option for Revolut since it does have downtime every so often. I was thinking of N26 but Wise might be enough for my needs

    I'd just be looking for basic card and bank services from the backup, which Wise seems to provide

    From looking at the fees, they seem comparable for my needs. Wise does seem to charge for usage whereas Revolut tries to get you to sign up for a paid plan. I'm okay with that given Wise would only be used occasionally and it doesn't seem more expensive than Revolut for what I'll be doing

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭pureza


    I know several people who use wise and would recommend

    I've not used them myself



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,920 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Cheers, I'll probably sign up and see how it goes

    I assume they can't be too bad since they'd have probably shut down by now otherwise

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    I've used WISE on a number of occasions for EUR to USD transactions and found it very good. The exchange rates are great (comparable to xe.com) and the money was in the payee account in minutes. And the charges are very reasonable and declared up-front with no ongoing subscription.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,621 ✭✭✭wassie


    I have all three (N26, Revolut & Wise) and they all have the benefits and drawbacks. I initially signed up to a Wise when they were called Transferwise around 2014 originally for their mid-market exchange rates and low fees.

    What I like is that you can get local account numbers for the likes of US, UK & AUS (and others apparently). This was particularly useful in the UK to buy cars for import before Brexit. As well as good currency exchange, I could take advantage of the UK Faster Payments systems to pay the car dealer on my phone from a UK account whilst in their showroom.

    Ended up getting an N26 account around 2017 as they had a partnership with Wise as it provided more functionality to use as our main transaction account - I also liked that they had a web app, which is the main reason why I preferred this over Revolut at the time.

    But, like most I also eventually got a Revolut a few years back given its widespread acceptance in Ireland. This makes it very handy for cashless payments to other people and they have definitely improved their product (including introducing a web app). However I find the Revolut app still pretty spammy compared to the N26 app, which is by far the cleanest.

    I have noticed over the last few years as all three of these services mature, they have been incrementally increasing the restrictions on their free accounts. This is not unusual for any startup that starts to gains a solid marketshare - the need to be profitable is fairly important.

    For example, N26 is our holiday card abroad now as Revolut have a €1,000 limit on currency exchanges, after which they add a 1% margin. Also costs more on weekends. The Wise card can be used, but its app is more clunky if you are using it for mult-currency transactions. You also need to get familiar as to how it does the currency conversion when using the card.

    May need to check up on N26 in the US, as they pulled out of the states a couple of years back. The card can still be used as normal for purchases on the Mastercard network however so I assume no real impact.

    Revolut can be handy for instantly transferring amounts to other Revolut users alike in other countries. N26 can do this to, but you are limited to Euros.

    Plenty of comparison sites about (eg N26 vs Revolut, Revolut vs Wise, Wise vs N26), however try to view ones published in the last year or so, otherwise they may be out of date.

    TLDR: At the end of the day, all three offer close to mid-market rates for exchanges and their fees are some of the lowest about, but they have their differences. N26 & Revolut are best for transacting. Wise I like for large international currency exchanges as you are effectively transferring the money to yourself and can them place in a 'local account' to send or receive local currency.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,920 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Thanks for the great summary

    I decided to setup an account today, registration was pretty seamless. One slight annoyance was their selfie based proof of ID system was extremely finnicky. It took a half dozen goes before I got a decent photo

    I might do a separate thread for Wise if it's worth doing, but one thing worth noting for anyone signing up is they require you to top up by €20 before they'll setup your bank accounts or let you order a card

    To top up at first, the free way is to do a bank transfer. You'll need to send it to Wise's IBAN with a reference they give you

    They seem to be very well tied in with Revolut, bank transfer from Revolut arrived in a couple of mins. When I sent money back to Revolut it arrived instantly and was free

    The fees seem a bit weird, when I tried a manual transfer to Revolut it had a 44c fee. But I did an instant transfer which was free and arrived instantly

    Anyway, local accounts are setup now and for the few times I'll be using it it's pretty good

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,621 ✭✭✭wassie


    All the neobanks seem to facilitate instant payments between each other.

    In fact the EU has only just adopted new rules around instant transfers, so hopefully this will be coming to Irish banks soon enough. It's definitely one of the features of Revolut & N26 that I like.




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,551 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    If you have a credit card, you can lodge a cheque payable to your name there. That's the only reason I kept my BOI credit card when I moved my main bank to Revolut.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,319 ✭✭✭NATLOR


    Trying to set up a savings account but keep getting ' something went wrong ' message been going on for days now. Support are worse than useless anyone else come across this or have a fix TIA



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    They have up to 18 months to implement it so I reckon the Irish banks will implement this is in about 18 months



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭gunnerfitzy


    Hi all,

    Trying to find out with certainty if Revolut facilitates cashback (e.g. €50 cash) with an in-store purchase in Ireland?



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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    I am pretty sure I have used it before. I think it is one of those things that Revolut need to even allow. The shop just charges the amount to the card. Cashback or no cashback doesn't come into it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Yup points of sale have to class the entire transaction as a single purchase type so they just use the most common one for them usually. If you used a credit card at an atm for instance it would be classed as a cash advance. I found out the hard way when I tried to buy a coffee on a flight with my company credit card but the transaction was classed as cigarettes/duty free!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Qrt


    I worked in a shop for two years and cashback was not possible on Revolut cards, I think it's something to do with their BIN not being Irish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭gunnerfitzy


    Interesting. I asked about Revolut and cashback on a FB group and the responses seem 50/50 on successfully or unsuccessfully receiving cashback on Revolut. Some are adamant they use their Revolut card regularly for cashback. I don't know if it is just random or if there is an underlying reason for the inconsistency.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,270 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    Used it for cashback about a month ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭gunnerfitzy


    I don't use my WeWork vouchers so happy to accept beer voucher as trade if you need one :) Feel free to PM.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,920 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    The one time I tried it in a shop I was told that it doesn't work. I was in a hurry at the time so I didn't push the issue

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    If you're sending from ETrade I think you're stuck for the $25 fee regardless of it being a local account, I'll be interested to know how it works for you. I sent in dollars to Revolut but plan to transfer to Wise to do the conversion to € since it looks like they will be cheaper overall including fees. Waiting to pull the trigger, kicking myself I didn't do it when we had that excellent $ to € rate a year or so back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,920 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I was playing around with this and it's a bit tricky to find the right combo

    If you're sending to Revolut from Wise in USD, you seem to have two options, a wire transfer in USD or convert to EUR and do a SEPA transfer

    The wire transfer has a fee of $12.38, which is pretty steep. I suspect that's because transferring via Swift

    Converting to EUR and then transferring seems to be a lot cheaper for smaller transactions since it's percentage based

    However you miss out on the fee free conversion allowance with Revolut

    So I think it depends a lot on how much you're moving which option makes sense

    On the plus side, you can see all the fees up front so you can figure out the best option for you

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,946 ✭✭✭long_b


    Anyone getting what look like random support notification emails from Revolut Community ?

    The mails have an automated email address that mentions discourse ?



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