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Wellyd · 19-07-2017 6:31pm

Sorry guys had to share it when I spotted it!

https://instagram.com/p/BWvAB-TljuA/

RoisinClare6 · 20-07-2017 1:44am

I have followed Joanne since 2013 I think. Loved her make up posts and her style back then. She used to do those cool Halloween looks etc. They are all gone from YouTube now. So you can't even go back to certain tutorials you liked. I loved how she generally only showed snippets from her life, bits and bobs of family here and there but it was mostly good content..it changed somewhere along the way that now its just brand promo, holiday trips/packing tips the gym and Paul. She worked incredibly hard to get where she is and its nice to see her genuinely happy but at the same time it's a bit sad to see the guts of what you built and what you are about is now slipping away due to a relationship change.

I follow her for her, for make up beauty etc not to see himself and what holiday they are on this week.

I looked through her blog a few days ago and there's almost nothing new or exciting in the beauty section since christmas...instagram personal pic overload. If you see Paul's its kept professional as its his business page, she could take leap out of his book there.

You can't message and ask for more of the old and less of the personal as you will be seen as a hater or you shouldn't be tearing other women down. Defiantly miss the old make up fairy content.

Madam Oblong · 20-07-2017 1:20pm

RoisinClare6 wrote: »

I have followed Joanne since 2013 I think. Loved her make up posts and her style back then. She used to do those cool Halloween looks etc. They are all gone from YouTube now. So you can't even go back to certain tutorials you liked. I loved how she generally only showed snippets from her life, bits and bobs of family here and there but it was mostly good content..it changed somewhere along the way that now its just brand promo, holiday trips/packing tips the gym and Paul. She worked incredibly hard to get where she is and its nice to see her genuinely happy but at the same time it's a bit sad to see the guts of what you built and what you are about is now slipping away due to a relationship change.

I follow her for her, for make up beauty etc not to see himself and what holiday they are on this week.

I looked through her blog a few days ago and there's almost nothing new or exciting in the beauty section since christmas...instagram personal pic overload. If you see Paul's its kept professional as its his business page, she could take leap out of his book there.

You can't message and ask for more of the old and less of the personal as you will be seen as a hater or you shouldn't be tearing other women down. Defiantly miss the old make up fairy content.

This is why I love NikkieTutorials so much. She's totally changed her appearance, admitted to lip fillers etc and has left all her old dodgy videos up too, she has a great sense of humour about it!

silvervixen84 · 20-07-2017 4:14pm

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Mekekka · 20-07-2017 11:01pm

RoisinClare6 wrote: »

I have followed Joanne since 2013 I think. Loved her make up posts and her style back then. She used to do those cool Halloween looks etc. They are all gone from YouTube now. So you can't even go back to certain tutorials you liked. I loved how she generally only showed snippets from her life, bits and bobs of family here and there but it was mostly good content..it changed somewhere along the way that now its just brand promo, holiday trips/packing tips the gym and Paul. She worked incredibly hard to get where she is and its nice to see her genuinely happy but at the same time it's a bit sad to see the guts of what you built and what you are about is now slipping away due to a relationship change.

I follow her for her, for make up beauty etc not to see himself and what holiday they are on this week.

I looked through her blog a few days ago and there's almost nothing new or exciting in the beauty section since christmas...instagram personal pic overload. If you see Paul's its kept professional as its his business page, she could take leap out of his book there.

You can't message and ask for more of the old and less of the personal as you will be seen as a hater or you shouldn't be tearing other women down. Defiantly miss the old make up fairy content.

I couldn't have said it better.

Cria · 25-07-2017 12:44pm

Mekekka wrote: »

I couldn't have said it better.

She used to be one of my favourites until all that threatening legal action and sending cease and desist letters to forums and platforms.. (this isn't speculation one group cannot mention her name it's in the rules due to this behaviour this information is up for public consumption)
aside from that there has been a huge shift in her content especially Snapchat with the boyfriend i followed her on Snapchat not him if I want to watch him constantly or listen to him talk about fitness I
Would follow him.
I have to agree I feel he loves being on her Snapchat and knows full well she benefits his business ,,
As for other bloggers like Rosie and grace the endless kid and boyfriend snaps make me unfollow
I still follow Rosie but skip past the Paul stuff

njs030 · 25-07-2017 12:50pm

Cria wrote: »

She used to be one of my favourites until all that threatening legal action and sending cease and desist letters to forums and platforms.. (this isn't speculation one group cannot mention her name it's in the rules due to this behaviour this information is up for public consumption)
aside from that there has been a huge shift in her content especially Snapchat with the boyfriend i followed her on Snapchat not him if I want to watch him constantly or listen to him talk about fitness I
Would follow him.
I have to agree I feel he loves being on her Snapchat and knows full well she benefits his business ,,
As for other bloggers like Rosie and grace the endless kid and boyfriend snaps make me unfollow
I still follow Rosie but skip past the Paul stuff

I think Muf is reading this thread as there's a distinct lack of Paul on snapchat and this morning she did a MAKE UP WALK THROUGH!!!!!!
She actually said what we've been saying that she is the make up fairy and will be doing more of it in future.
So if she has been reading and is taking it on board I think that's a fantastic way to listen to her followers and personally am delighted!!

Mekekka · 25-07-2017 2:39pm

notjustsweet wrote: »

I think Muf is reading this thread as there's a distinct lack of Paul on snapchat and this morning she did a MAKE UP WALK THROUGH!!!!!!
She actually said what we've been saying that she is the make up fairy and will be doing more of it in future.

I might refollow so if that's the case! I really enjoy watching her talk about makeup and beauty and she's extremely good at it so if she's showing it again then super. I don't expect her to be doing makeup all of the time either, but a nice balance was what kept me following before.

purplecow1977 · 25-07-2017 3:05pm

Yeah, seems a bit mad to be called 'themakeupfairy' and then not show much makeup.........and no, I don't want to just see products you've been sent, I want to see them in use, hear about how they work/wear. I'm not a fan of his, so if there are less snaps with him, I'd be more interested. That goes for anyone that continually shows their OH - I'm just not that interested! Let him/her set up their own account and allow people to follow if they want!

Cria · 25-07-2017 3:27pm

purplecow1977 wrote: »

Yeah, seems a bit mad to be called 'themakeupfairy' and then not show much makeup.........and no, I don't want to just see products you've been sent, I want to see them in use, hear about how they work/wear. I'm not a fan of his, so if there are less snaps with him, I'd be more interested. That goes for anyone that continually shows their OH - I'm just not that interested! Let him/her set up their own account and allow people to follow if they want!

Completely agree she's the make up fairy first and foremost. Fitness is what she added in later .. her partner and them joking together and sharing their life together is of no interest to me I'll follow him if I want to see him .. if she sticks to reviews and tutorials and follow ups of the products she received ..
I'd find her more relatable if she stop the major filtering and was a bit more honest with her followers.

Ray37 · 25-07-2017 6:41pm

Regarding MUF and the BF, I watched her Croatia vlog, and it's all him pretty much. If she keeps it up she is going to lose a lot of followers, I really feel he is loving the spotlight, and for her own sake I hope she stops snapping him as much, and stops promoting his business every 5 seconds.

Siobhnk · 25-07-2017 7:37pm

To be fair to get, she hasn't snapped him at all today. I really liked her make up haul and look today, hopefully she'll keep that up.

Cria · 25-07-2017 7:46pm

Ray37 wrote: »

Regarding MUF and the BF, I watched her Croatia vlog, and it's all him pretty much. If she keeps it up she is going to lose a lot of followers, I really feel he is loving the spotlight, and for her own sake I hope she stops snapping him as much, and stops promoting his business every 5 seconds.

I agree It comes across like he is loving the spotlight and that he uses her Snapchat for his own gain

dizzyn · 25-07-2017 7:51pm

I really liked her snaps today, more of how it used to be! I do think she's been reading this, or had others reading this and saying it to her. If this is the case, I'm glad to see even a slight change. It makes me remember why I followed her in the first place. Hope she keeps this up!

Ray37 · 25-07-2017 7:52pm

If she is reading this, I am shocked that none of us have been threatened with 'legal action' yet for discussing her tbh...

retro:electro · 25-07-2017 9:33pm

Today was the first day in a while where I've watched her (Fairy) and thought she was acting like a normal person, if that makes sense. No posey nonsense or OTT gym references. I thought she came across very sweet on her walk back from the gym. I'd happily watch her if she continued on this line.

SusieBlue · 25-07-2017 10:25pm

anna080 wrote: »

Today was the first day in a while where I've watched her (Fairy) and thought she was acting like a normal person, if that makes sense. No posey nonsense or OTT gym references. I thought she came across very sweet on her walk back from the gym. I'd happily watch her if she continued on this line.

I followed her just for a look and wow, it was like the old Joanne. So impressed. Much prefer how she was today to her usual content. It was a relief not to see her boyfriend and have the silly screechy voices.
Would 100% follow her and support her if she was like that all the time.

Ray37 · 25-07-2017 10:53pm

I've seen a few comments on her Insta in the same tone, aka less BF more MUF, so maybe she is taking notice. It'd be nice if so.

RoisinClare6 · 25-07-2017 11:19pm

anna080 wrote: »

Today was the first day in a while where I've watched her (Fairy) and thought she was acting like a normal person, if that makes sense. No posey nonsense or OTT gym references. I thought she came across very sweet on her walk back from the gym. I'd happily watch her if she continued on this line.

I was the same. Didn't do my usual tap tap through until I seen make up etc! Hopefully she's making a come back! Felt like it was just her..no frills or fuss just normal. Fingers crossed she keeps it up

SusieBlue · 25-07-2017 11:25pm

I can see why she actually does include him a lot to be fair, her younger demographic seem to eat it up with all the '#couplegoals' type posts I've seen in awe of both him and of them as a couple.

However, it seems to annoy the older section of her target market aka the people who actually have the disposable income to spend on her products. Teenyboppers will like and comment on all her posts but for the most part won't be able to buy her products.
It's interesting that she's been scaling back on his exposure recently, maybe pixie pout isn't doing as well as fairy wands did?

Cria · 26-07-2017 12:36am

anna080 wrote: »

Today was the first day in a while where I've watched her (Fairy) and thought she was acting like a normal person, if that makes sense. No posey nonsense or OTT gym references. I thought she came across very sweet on her walk back from the gym. I'd happily watch her if she continued on this line.

I had a look today and found her a bit like her old self too , no endless silly filters constant posing and no boyfriend more talking and make up very refreshing

Mekekka · 26-07-2017 6:22pm

WhiteRoses wrote: »

her younger demographic seem to eat it up with all the '#couplegoals' type posts I've seen in awe of both him and of them as a couple.

However, it seems to annoy the older section of her target market aka the people who actually have the disposable income to spend on her products. Teenyboppers will like and comment on all her posts but for the most part won't be able to buy her products.

So true! And therein lies a big problem for her - to a huge chunk of her followers the "Makeup fairy" is someone who likes unicorns, sparkly stuff, Tiffany blue, has this cool boyfriend and gets to do cool stuff like travelling, promoting products, driving a free car, etc without it seeming like work - you can see exactly why younger followers adore her. She had to play to that image to keep them happy (she must be damn sick of being sent unicorn stuff at this stage!!), even her marketing for the brushes was exactly for that purpose and on the way playing up to that image of her has lost (or at the least annoyed/alienated) her the original (and probably older, yes) following.

Wellyd · 29-07-2017 7:42pm

He's back.........

Practically 3 hours of snaps! I was really loving that she had got back to her usual self and was snapping about make up and other bits this week, only to have such a switch round today.

IrishinOz · 29-07-2017 7:49pm

Wellyd wrote: »

He's back.........

Practically 3 hours of snaps! I was really loving that she had got back to her usual self and was snapping about make up and other bits this week, only to have such a switch round today.

Isn't it interesting how she rarely appears on his platforms..his seems much more focused/professional.

Siobhnk · 29-07-2017 7:52pm

Wellyd wrote: »

He's back.........

Practically 3 hours of snaps! I was really loving that she had got back to her usual self and was snapping about make up and other bits this week, only to have such a switch round today.

I was thinking the same! There was more him than her on it today. And she had the cheek to say he's a guest speaker. Someone asked her why she has him on so much, he doesn't have snap chat and she wants him on it apparently. Seriously doesn't take much effort to set up his own account.
She had a make up bit today for her followers who follow her for beauty, I thought it might be good. More bloody swatches of pixie pout ðŸ˜ I know she wants to push them but Jesus you don't see Suzanne Jackson swatching her palettes every other day. I like variety and lately Joanne has none. It's all Paul and pixie pout.

njs030 · 29-07-2017 8:31pm

Wellyd wrote: »

He's back.........

Practically 3 hours of snaps! I was really loving that she had got back to her usual self and was snapping about make up and other bits this week, only to have such a switch round today.

Yes hours and hours of her gym routine and him talking us through it!
If people want to see that they can look on his business page!!

Cria · 29-07-2017 8:34pm

Siobhnk wrote: »

I was thinking the same! There was more him than her on it today. And she had the cheek to say he's a guest speaker. Someone asked her why she has him on so much, he doesn't have snap chat and she wants him on it apparently. Seriously doesn't take much effort to set up his own account.
She had a make up bit today for her followers who follow her for beauty, I thought it might be good. More bloody swatches of pixie pout ðŸ˜ I know she wants to push them but Jesus you don't see Suzanne Jackson swatching her palettes every other day. I like variety and lately Joanne has none. It's all Paul and pixie pout.

Just as I was starting to enjoy her content he pops back up when is she going to realise people follow her not him .. instead of doing endless snaps of him and her working out she could have done a YouTube video surely that makes more sense he's giving advice in 10 second snaps that disappear in 24 hours

RoisinClare6 · 29-07-2017 8:36pm

Just tapped straight through that...YouTube would have been much better! Who is going to remember all of that info?

fussyonion · 29-07-2017 8:50pm

I don't mind the odd Snap of someone's friend or family member now and again but when they heavily feature them it's annoying.

Like FacesbyGrace; she features her child an AWFUL lot and it makes me wonder if she thinks people actually want to/enjoy watching her?
She's a baby. One or two Snaps would be alright but I see so much of that child that it irritates me.

Or when a Snapper features their Mum or someone and it's like twenty Snaps long. I didn't follow you for your Mum. Realise this, will you!

ALSO, when Snappers post endless videos of their nights out. It's just groups of people screaming and dancing to loud music.
How the hell is that entertaining for your followers?

XxMCRxBabyxX · 29-07-2017 9:09pm

Well judging by makeupfairy's latest snaps she's definitely reading this and isn't too thrilled with us "saddos."

njs030 · 29-07-2017 9:13pm

Muf went for lunch with a friend recently and said on snapchat that she didn't snap it because she didn't like to feature her friends. Either later that day or the following day her instagram story was a good 10-15 photos of her with various people she "can't wait to see" and "miss you".
Not sure who they are as she doesn't involve friends in social media

njs030 · 29-07-2017 9:32pm

XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »

Well judging by makeupfairy's latest snaps she's definitely reading this and isn't too thrilled with us "saddos."

I just saw this snap.
Wow. Im shocked at how rude and nasty she is. Why on earth does she call people saddos because they find it boring to watch a make up bloggers boyfriend talk about her work out for 3+ hours!!

I quite liked her before and felt a little bit sorry for her, now I'm just shocked and yes I did unfollow her and I certainly won't be wasting money on any of her products if that's what she thinks of people.

RoisinClare6 · 29-07-2017 9:51pm

Look at the end of the day I know I wasn't nasty about her in relation to what I said about her snapchat today. So that comment went over my head. I know I'm not a saddo.

The way I see it and think bloggers need to step back and see, their snapchat is essentially like reality tv. Your showing a chunk of your day to people and they are going to have an opinion about the comings and goings. Their content is of interest to the people who follow them so obviously we're gonna chat about like people chat about feckin love island or whatever. Obviously I don't condone nastiness. Snap chatters wouldn't be where they are without their follows so they should take on board what people like and dislike.

About himself, if some many people want to know details about the work outs and what Paul's about then why doesn't he set up a snapchat for that reason as it would be quite beneficial for him and his business ? Joanne then could do her thing and just have general fitness posts I suppose that's their choice!

i guess you have to choose weather watching the fitness stuff and paul is worth the rest of Joanne's content? Like if you like the beauty etc so you put up with the relationship side of things or you unfollow and just miss out on the content you like.

Guess that just what it's got to be.

dizzyn · 29-07-2017 10:39pm

I think those snaps really showed immaturity on MUF part. This is exactly what I've been saying, it's IMPOSSIBLE to give any form of constructive critism without being called names. A businesswoman should be well able to accept feedback and actually listen to what her audience/customers are saying. I really admire her and love her snaps when it's actually her chit chatting about fun, interesting things. There has to be a point when she realises she needs to take on board what we're saying.

There's very little nastiness on this forum, but tonnes of constructive feedback. Most posters on this forum are on the same page too, so it's clearly not just one singular "saddo" saying these things out of spite.

Now obviously MUF is not the only blogger/influencer that refuses to accept any form of constructive criticism. But it seems that she is aware of what is being said here. Hopefully she also chooses to see the good things we are all saying too.

Sufitzy · 30-07-2017 7:16am

I'm lost as to what "cheetos" on your fingers is all about !?

30-07-2017 9:50am

Sufitzy wrote: »

I'm lost as to what "cheetos" on your fingers is all about !?

She always says the saddos sitting behind a screen typing horrible things about her are probably eating cheetos - it's a little joke she has.

fima · 30-07-2017 10:01am

XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »

Well judging by makeupfairy's latest snaps she's definitely reading this and isn't too thrilled with us "saddos."

She's talking about the Facebook group 'galz who snap' and similar. She was sent screenshots and called out one person by name who hadn't said anything nasty about her at all.

idunno78 · 30-07-2017 10:48am

I liked the snaps showing the workout but it would have been much better as a YouTube video where it could be watched again! (So if you are reading this Joanne please save and upload on youtube!!!)

BUT
The rant and talking about all the food was to much and went on for wayyyy to long! He could have done that on his own page I know he does instastories and just told people who were interested in that to go to his page!

RoisinClare6 · 30-07-2017 11:13am

fima wrote: »

She's talking about the Facebook group 'galz who snap' and similar. She was sent screenshots and called out one person by name who hadn't said anything nasty about her at all.

She's a banned topic an Galz who Snap

fima · 30-07-2017 11:19am

RoisinClare6 wrote: »

She's a banned topic an Galz who Snap

Maybe a different one so, the new ma's who drink possibly? They're all the same

RoisinClare6 · 30-07-2017 11:21am

fima wrote: »

Maybe a different one so, the new ma's who drink possibly? They're all the same

I think that was archived after the it galz podcast drama. So there must be a few others or it's just here...

Sufitzy · 30-07-2017 11:26am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

She always says the saddos sitting behind a screen typing horrible things about her are probably eating cheetos - it's a little joke she has.

It's a really funny joke !!!

Mekekka · 30-07-2017 11:45am

Missed all this as i don't follow her, she obviously made reference to someone/people being negative online about her? As far as I recall from when I did follow her the cheeto thing came from Paul, that when she gets negativity to imagine the person writing the comments as a sad individual sitting at a screen stuffing themselves with cheetos (paraphrasing but something close to that)

Ray37 · 30-07-2017 5:01pm

The cheeto fingers comments I find SO rude. Clearly they assume that people who dare to have an opinion (rather than blindly worship her) are fat slobs who sit at a computer all day. How rude is that? Coming from somebody who is working on changing her body.... Extremely distasteful IMO. And Cheetos are yum so shut up.

The whole Paul takeover I think is to drive more business to him. Which is fair enough like of course you wanna help your partner. But maybe limit it to a shoutout now and then? I really dont like his manner and agree that he does seem very smug. It's clearly an attempt to push business his way, and it's far too much. The way the pair of them acted when someone rightly pointed out that they had gone overboard (see, now Im even saying THEY) was outrageous. She is extremely immature for her age, and he is actually doing a lot of damage to her image. It comes off as being obsessed with him, and it looks v unhealthy.

IrishinOz · 30-07-2017 5:28pm

It doesn't seem like all this "coverage" is doing him any favours although he does seem to be much younger than her so maybe he has some maturing to do

Ray37104231748 wrote:

The cheeto fingers comments I find SO rude. Clearly they assume that people who dare to have an opinion (rather than blindly worship her) are fat slobs who sit at a computer all day. How rude is that? Coming from somebody who is working on changing her body.... Extremely distasteful IMO. And Cheetos are yum so shut up.

The whole Paul takeover I think is to drive more business to him. Which is fair enough like of course you wanna help your partner. But maybe limit it to a shoutout now and then? I really dont like his manner and agree that he does seem very smug. It's clearly an attempt to push business his way, and it's far too much. The way the pair of them acted when someone rightly pointed out that they had gone overboard (see, now Im even saying THEY) was outrageous. She is extremely immature for her age, and he is actually doing a lot of damage to her image. It comes off as being obsessed with him, and it looks v unhealthy.

30-07-2017 5:30pm

Sufitzy wrote: »

It's a really funny joke !!!

If you say so.

njs030 · 30-07-2017 6:09pm

Ray37 wrote: »

The cheeto fingers comments I find SO rude. Clearly they assume that people who dare to have an opinion (rather than blindly worship her) are fat slobs who sit at a computer all day. How rude is that? Coming from somebody who is working on changing her body.... Extremely distasteful IMO. And Cheetos are yum so shut up.

The whole Paul takeover I think is to drive more business to him. Which is fair enough like of course you wanna help your partner. But maybe limit it to a shoutout now and then? I really dont like his manner and agree that he does seem very smug. It's clearly an attempt to push business his way, and it's far too much. The way the pair of them acted when someone rightly pointed out that they had gone overboard (see, now Im even saying THEY) was outrageous. She is extremely immature for her age, and he is actually doing a lot of damage to her image. It comes off as being obsessed with him, and it looks v unhealthy.

Well I'm told she said they are planning on doing it again so she doesn't give a damn what other people say.
Her followers are just idiots to get money from it seems.

Does anyone know what Paul's credentials are btw? Does he have any educational background in fitness and nutrition or is this all just his opinion and stuff he thinks is right? There's nothing on his website that I could see.
If he isn't a dietician he really shouldn't be telling people what to eat... And a dietician wouldn't be ranting on the Internet about food in the first place imo.
People have different nutritional needs but he seems to think it's one size fits all.
Worrying.

LizT · 30-07-2017 6:30pm

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IrishinOz · 30-07-2017 6:57pm

Hi mod, what board can I post in if I don't have the 50+ Requirement? Why do I need an amount to post on one board over another? Thanks

LizT wrote: »

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