Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

tayto lover · 20-10-2018 12:19pm

Anyone know where Ms Cash lived before becoming homeless or the reason she is now homeless?

Just wondering if she had a home before and if so why she has none now.

Uncharted · 20-10-2018 12:21pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Anyone know where Ms Cash lived before becoming homeless or the reason she is now homeless?

Just wondering if she had a home before and if so why she has none now.

Southern cross roundabout in Bray.

KevinCavan · 20-10-2018 12:25pm

Effects wrote: »

Except it's not €50,000 a year.

You mean it’s more? I just gave the rough figure.

Gatling · 20-10-2018 12:31pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Anyone know where Ms Cash lived before becoming homeless or the reason she is now homeless?

Just wondering if she had a home before and if so why she has none now.

She's had several addresss In tallaght I think the last one was sundale estate between Rossfield and Jobstown.
I believe she claimed the landlord was selling up
Would love to hear from previous neighbors and landlords

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 20-10-2018 12:46pm

Effects wrote: »

Except it's not €50,000 a year.

Sorry 51,000

Odyssey 2005 · 20-10-2018 12:48pm

KevinCavan wrote: »

You mean it’s more? I just gave the rough figure.

Ahem.

Odyssey 2005 · 20-10-2018 12:51pm

Tadeo Mysterious SailboatMGS wrote: »

from where I’m sitting Leo has done a far better job than any of the prior leaders. He inherited a **** setup, same as with Obama.

Except Obama did someting about the problems he gaced. Veruka was helped create some of the problems he faced,he was in gubberment with kenny

KevinCavan · 20-10-2018 12:51pm

Isn’t it great that we are funding Travellers, refugees, rapists, murderers and pedophiles?

tayto lover · 20-10-2018 12:58pm

Gatling wrote: »

She's had several addresss In tallaght I think the last one was sundale estate between Rossfield and Jobstown.
I believe she claimed the landlord was selling up
Would love to hear from previous neighbors and landlords

Did she ever have a Council house before?

Mondo from Dublin · 20-10-2018 1:01pm

Tbh the government are to blame really, Ms cash was taken out of school at aged 12, 2002.wasn't that long ago, where were the hse/ tusla ? (Whatever they were called then) why wasn't she taken into foster care? Why weren't her guardians jailed for not sending her to school? I betya they were still being paid children's allowance and back to school clothing allowance for her.

Gimme A Pound · 20-10-2018 1:03pm

The state may hold some secondary blame but no way is anyone other than upholders of such customs primarily to blame.

NasserShammaz · 20-10-2018 1:10pm

Mondo from Dublin wrote: »

Tbh the government are to blame really, Ms cash was taken out of school at aged 12, 2002.wasn't that long ago, where were the hse/ tusla ? (Whatever they were called then) why wasn't she taken into foster care? Why weren't her guardians jailed for not sending her to school? I betya they were still being paid children's allowance and back to school clothing allowance for her.

Personal Responsibility, or is that just for everyone else apart from the freeloading runts and scUm

Sultan_of_Ping · 20-10-2018 1:15pm

Mondo from Dublin wrote: »

Tbh the government are to blame really, Ms cash was taken out of school at aged 12, 2002.wasn't that long ago, where were the hse/ tusla ? (Whatever they were called then) why wasn't she taken into foster care? Why weren't her guardians jailed for not sending her to school? I betya they were still being paid children's allowance and back to school clothing allowance for her.

Who took her out of school?

You seem to think breaking up a family would have prevented her criminality.

Effects · 20-10-2018 1:49pm

Jasiah Hot Talker wrote: »

Sorry 51,000

It's not €51,000 either.
No point making up figures to drum up outrage. There's already enough actual reasons.

Quandary · 20-10-2018 1:50pm

Personal responsibility is something that is severely lacking in so many areas of society nowadays in this country.

Darndale scrambler incident
Margaret Cash, Erica Fleming etc...
Parents of certain children who blame all their woes and poor childs behaviour on anything but themselves
LUAS surfer getting a cool half million reward for being a complete idiot
Tens of thousands of people taking out mortgages that they couldn't pay given even a small change of circumstances and then blaming it ALL on the banks
Almost every disgraced politician and high level civil servant, ie Bertie, Haughey, Garda commissioner(s) etc....
Banking regulator, top level banking brass who facilitated the banking crisis

Just off the top of my head examples there but where is the personal responsibility???

Always someone elses fault or some else will pick up the pieces for my fcuk ups.

It reminds me so so much of that Simpsons episode with Frank Grimes when he flips out because Homer is able to survive in life despite the fact that he is a complete dolt.

Frank Grimes: Oh, I eat like a slob, but nobody minds... Frank Grimes: I'm peeing on the seat, give me a raise! Now I'm returning to work without washing my hands, *but* it doesn't matter, because *I'm* Homer Simpson! Frank Grimes: I don't need to do my work, cause someone else will do it for me!

It's best not to dwell too much on it because it's just not good for your brain and you'll just end up electrocuting yourself like poor old Grimey.

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humberklog · 20-10-2018 1:56pm

Mondo from Dublin wrote: »

Tbh the government are to blame really, Ms cash was taken out of school at aged 12, 2002.wasn't that long ago, where were the hse/ tusla ? (Whatever they were called then) why wasn't she taken into foster care? Why weren't her guardians jailed for not sending her to school? I betya they were still being paid children's allowance and back to school clothing allowance for her.

Isn't this a bit of the problem Pavee Point and other Traveller advocates have though? They've achieved ethnic minority status but does that include carrying on with practices that are incompatible with a modern society?

Let the travellers on in celebrating, expressing and promoting their culture but I think the state should move into an era of strong arming and clamping down on camp fires, illegal sulky racing, animal abuse, welfare fraud, child negligence...the list is a long one as far as I'm concerned.

I think the state does bear some blame- it has been too cowardly in enforcing the same standards across the board of society. The laws are there for us all and a minority status isn't a licence to break those laws.

There's been a history of acceptance by state enforcers (and the general population) for whatever reason)) of behaviour and traditions that simply aren't acceptable.

If the state and law abiding citizens (including travellers) are guilty of one thing it's allowing itself to be intimidated by a feckless and reckless minority.

Effects · 20-10-2018 1:57pm

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

Ahem.

KevinCavan said she was getting €50k a year and free housing.
The figure is more like €36k and the remainder being the HAP payment for the 'free' housing.

KevinCavan · 20-10-2018 2:11pm

Effects wrote: »

KevinCavan said she was getting €50k a year and free housing.
The figure is more like €36k and the remainder being the HAP payment for the 'free' housing.

36k into your hand equates to a job paying 52k gross. The person earning 52k gross, gets 36k net and then has to start paying rent or mortgage. So her set up is pretty good.

handlemaster · 20-10-2018 2:28pm

no reason still to be stealing

Paddy Cow · 20-10-2018 3:00pm

Deleted User wrote: »

And run the risk of losing some of her credits? Or have to pay someone to mind da childer?

On a serious note, travellers are supposed to be tight knit families. I know her mum is dead, but where are the rest of her family? Why are they not helping her?

If they took her in she would not be deemed a priority and would move down the housing list. Better to play the long game and stick out emergency accommodation to get that forever home

Paddy Cow · 20-10-2018 3:01pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

How can someone have 37 road traffic convictions ?

You loose your licence after 12 points.

Plenty of people still drive without a license. The question should be, how did she avoid jail time with 37 convictions? Clearly she wasn't taking it seriously. And that's only the 37 times she was caught!

Agent Smith · 20-10-2018 3:08pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

She has to be on Dancing with the Stars in January!

Couldnt be worse then Erin McGreggor....

NasserShammaz · 20-10-2018 3:14pm

Agent Smith wrote: »

Couldnt be worse then Erin McGreggor....

Are they not the same person

NIMAN · 20-10-2018 3:19pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

How can someone have 37 road traffic convictions ?

You loose your licence after 12 points.

Bear in mind that when you hear about people up in court and 'they have 38 previous convictions', this doesn't mean they have been up in court 38 times.

One time up in court could contain 3, 5, 10 convictions for example.

Say I was up in court for traffic offences, I might have been speeding initially, but when I was stopped, the Guard may have checked me and the car over, and I could also be getting done for no tax, no insurance, car unfit for road, dangerous driving etc...so they add up.

I have seen people in the local press here who have 200+ previous convictions and still not given jail time.

the_syco · 20-10-2018 3:31pm

Mondo from Dublin wrote: »

Why weren't her guardians jailed for not sending her to school?

Because they're travellers who don't abide by the law?

Effects wrote: »

It's not €51,000 either.

Are you claiming that the government taxes the welfare it gives to people?

Effects wrote: »

KevinCavan said she was getting €50k a year and free housing.
The figure is more like €36k and the remainder being the HAP payment for the 'free' housing.

She got the money to pay for the HAP for free. Thus, it's all free.

20-10-2018 3:32pm

KevinCavan wrote: »

€50,000 a year would go a long way, when you are living in free accommodation.

To be fair, it’s not actually €50,000 a year. That figure includes HAP which could be in the region of €1,000 a month, so in reality she’s on between €35,000 and €40,000 a year. Still a huge amount for someone who doesn’t want anything from the government, who incidentally are robbin her blind.

Roger Hassenforder · 20-10-2018 3:49pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

To be fair, it’s not actually €50,000 a year. That figure includes HAP which could be in the region of €1,000 a month, so in reality she’s on between €35,000 and €40,000 a year. Still a huge amount for someone who doesn’t want anything from the government, who incidentally are robbin her blind.

In fairness MA, she didnt expect anything from the government.

She's a major own goal in the liberal camp. Their golden girl exposed as a criminal. A major "Told you so" from the "right" aka, people who work for a living and are sick of it.

colm_mcm · 20-10-2018 3:51pm

I don’t think her previous convictions were a secret or anything.

Roger Hassenforder · 20-10-2018 3:52pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

I don’t think her previous convictions were a secret or anything.

First i heard of them was when this scandal broke.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.rte.ie/amp/985507/

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/homeless-children-spend-night-on-chairs-in-tallaght-garda-station-1.3590748?mode=amp

Etc.

You might be able to post something to the contrary, that supports your point?

20-10-2018 4:38pm

tayto lover wrote: »

He replaced Enda. So did Enda leave him the **** setup?

He's doing just ok in my opinion but he needs to stop telling lies ans exaggerating.

We all know who left behind the mess for the most recent two.

blanch152 · 20-10-2018 8:39pm

Effects wrote: »

It's not €51,000 either.
No point making up figures to drum up outrage. There's already enough actual reasons.

It is €36k after housing costs.

A single TD, after tax and other deductions, and paying €1,500 a month in rent for housing costs, is left with €30k after all that. I provided the figures earlier in the thread.

And Margaret Cash is the one saying the TDs are robbing her. You couldn't make it up.

A staff nurse with 5 years experience earns €36,383.
A garda with 5 years experience earns €42,392.

They are married to each other and have €59,586 after-tax income.
They are from Ballybrack and Sallynoggin but they have to live in Dunboyne, because they can't afford to live near their family, paying €1,500 in rent per month for a 2-bed apartment. €18k a year in rent leaves them €41,000 after tax per year. By the time they pay car insurance, car tax and car loan on two cars (because they believe you don't drive a car without tax and insurance), they have less money than Margaret Cash. A home of their own and children, with all the costs of childcare, are just a dream.

It is time that funding for the likes of Margaret Cash was cut and diverted to the likes of the nurse and garda who are contributing to keeping the country going.

Roger Hassenforder · 20-10-2018 8:47pm

blanch152 wrote: »

And Margaret Cash is the one saying the TDs are robbing her. You couldn't make it up.

A staff nurse with 5 years experience earns €36,383.
A garda with 5 years experience earns €42,392.

They are married to each other and have €59,586 after-tax income.
They are from Ballybrack and Sallynoggin but they have to live in Dunboyne, because they can't afford to live near their family, paying €1,500 in rent per month for a 2-bed apartment. €18k a year in rent leaves them €41,000 after tax per year. By the time they pay car insurance, car tax and car loan on two cars (because they believe you don't drive a car without tax and insurance), they have less money than Margaret Cash.

I reckon they dont have 38 convictions either

Gwynplaine · 20-10-2018 8:49pm

She should be spayed.

Eggs For Dinner · 20-10-2018 8:54pm

NIMAN wrote: »

One time up in court could contain 3, 5, 10 convictions for example.

Say I was up in court for traffic offences, I might have been speeding initially, but when I was stopped, the Guard may have checked me and the car over, and I could also be getting done for no tax, no insurance, car unfit for road, dangerous driving etc...so they add up.
.

Even if you got circa 10 convictions a time, you're talking about being caught multiple times with serious issues, which is utterly disgraceful and has potential to have a severe impact on those of us sharing the road with her. So angry about that

20-10-2018 8:55pm

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

I reckon they dont have 38 convictions either

Nah they Garda is the one arresting fcukers like cash and the nurse is tending to the travellers who have been bare knuckle boxing over a stray look Jimmys Mickey gave Willy’s Johnny

tayto lover · 20-10-2018 8:59pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

I don’t think her previous convictions were a secret or anything.

Indeed. You couldn't keep that many convictions secret.
Amazed she was never incarcerated.

Tipperary animal lover · 20-10-2018 8:59pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

To be fair, it’s not actually €50,000 a year. That figure includes HAP which could be in the region of €1,000 a month, so in reality she’s on between €35,000 and €40,000 a year. Still a huge amount for someone who doesn’t want anything from the government, who incidentally are robbin her blind.

In fairness Mary she might not be getting hap atm but she is getting B&B so that's probably costing more than hap so she's costing us more now....

punisher5112 · 20-10-2018 10:34pm

One other extra cost is the resources she is using up from charities also....

Penny's were extremely generous too.

Effects · 21-10-2018 12:57am

tayto lover wrote: »

Amazed she was never incarcerated.

Because you get a truck load of chances before they’ll send you to prison.
A friend of mine used to defend people like this in court.
Some of them would complain it was hard to stay out of trouble with the money they get in handouts and no rent to pay.

Lash Into The Pints · 21-10-2018 12:58am

I see the socialists' wealth redistribution policy has begun.

fritzelly · 21-10-2018 1:23am

Effects wrote: »

A friend of mine used to defend people like this in court.
Some of them would complain it was hard to stay out of trouble with the money they get in handouts and no rent to pay.

Says it all really

LETHAL LADY · 21-10-2018 1:38am

I worked in supermarkets in my early working days and the modus operandi for the special ethnic status group was to enter the store and fill trolleys to the top with groceries. When it came to paying they'd just walk straight out the door and hope they'd not get caught. Tbf if the place was busy they'd get away with it.

I went shopping in Pennys today with a voucher for €30. I left the shop with about ten items of clothing for my kids. I know it has been said already but she must have had a truckload of clothing.

fritzelly · 21-10-2018 2:06am

Worst of it is, steal 300 euro, unrecoverable, get fined 100

Some judges in ireland should be fired as they've no sense

21-10-2018 2:12am

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

I worked in supermarkets in my early working days and the modus operandi for the special ethnic status group was to enter the store and fill trolleys to the top with groceries. When it came to paying they'd just walk straight out the door and hope they'd not get caught. Tbf if the place was busy they'd get away with it.

I went shopping in Pennys today with a voucher for €30. I left the shop with about ten items of clothing for my kids. I know it has been said already but she must have had a truckload of clothing.

It’s things like this that make me feel like we should have a justice system more like America. A 3 strike rule maximum. 39 convictions later still no prison its not wonder there’s cnuts on there with a set of brass bollox on them.

tuxy · 21-10-2018 2:49am

Tadeo Mysterious SailboatMGS wrote: »

It’s things like this that make me feel like we should have a justice system more like America. A 3 strike rule maximum. 39 convictions later still no prison its not wonder there’s cnuts on there with a set of brass bollox on them.

So rather than pay €50k a year in benefits you want to pay 90k to keep her in prison and then how much to look after the kids while she is away?
America has very high incarceration rates and also high crime rates their system does not lower crime but it does ensure the owners of private prisons are extremely wealthy from tax payers money.

21-10-2018 7:44am

tuxy wrote: »

So rather than pay €50k a year in benefits you want to pay 90k to keep her in prison and then how much to look after the kids while she is away?
America has very high incarceration rates and also high crime rates their system does not lower crime but it does ensure the owners of private prisons are extremely wealthy from tax payers money.

Yeah, look at is a money issue rather than a fcuking criminal paying their dues.

ParkRunner · 21-10-2018 8:07am

Maybe 3 strikes should lead to a 10% reduction in all social welfare support for 2-3 years. At least then criminality would lead to some penalty for those those depending on social support & would make them reconsider getting involved in criminality, while attaching some sense of value to what they receive

NIMAN · 21-10-2018 8:09am

ParkRunner wrote: »

Maybe 3 strikes should lead to a 10% reduction in all social welfare support for 2-3 years. At least then criminality would lead to some penalty for those those depending on social support & would make them reconsider getting involved in criminality, while attaching some value to what they receive

The bleeding hearts won't accept that though.

They'll be shouting about how its putting people in poverty, affecting the kids of the criminals etc.

tuxy · 21-10-2018 8:10am

Tadeo Mysterious SailboatMGS wrote: »

Yeah, look at is a money issue rather than a fcuking criminal paying their dues.

So we should enable these people to be in a position to bankrupt the state?
Do you think the likes or Mrs. Cash give a **** about going to prison or any consequences to her actions?

21-10-2018 8:11am

NIMAN wrote: »

The bleeding hearts won't accept that though.

They'll be shouting about how its putting people in poverty, affecting the kids of the criminals etc.

when I’m reality your average career criminal or whatever you’d prefer to call it probably has more money than any other welfare recipient from stealing or selling drugs etc

Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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