Amber Heard admits to beating up Johnny Depp

ILoveYourVibes · 31-01-2020 11:56pm #1

I am quite disgusting at her. She tried to become this poster child for domestic abuse.

Here is a tape that was consensually recorded in a therapy session apparently. She comes off as a manipulator.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7947733/Amber-Heard-admits-hitting-ex-husband-Johnny-Depp-pelting-pots-pans-tape.html

Whatever happened between them she wasn't the innocent victim she tried to pretend to be.

She has let down a lot of people.

Leg End Reject · 01-02-2020 12:02am

I'm not bothered to look at the link, but I remember reading that this was suspected at the time. It will be interesting to see how this is handled in the media.

ygolometsipe · 01-02-2020 12:03am

Amber heard can abuse me any time she wants!

Bobblehats · 01-02-2020 12:07am

Thats as depressed as I've seen him. Should have stuck with the wife...

Silentcorner · 01-02-2020 12:12am

We have headbanger feminists running for Public Office trying to convince women that only they suffer from the "Epidemic of Domestic Violence" in the same week we have seen three kids *murdered in Dublin and a man murdered in Wexford by women....

I doubt the Amber Heard story will make much difference.

It is time to stop funding to organisations that are consistently guilty of misrepresenting statistics to the detriment of equality.

Mod note: *Allegedly

Be careful here, folks, there has not been a trial yet never mind a conviction. The person in question remains innocent unless/until a trial convicts them!

Buford T. Justice

01-02-2020 12:15am

I always suspected she was the real instigator in their relationship.

retro:electro · 01-02-2020 12:15am

I’d say there was a pair of them in it. Pair of drunks, both flaking one another out of it on the regular, both now trying to blame each other to try and salvage some kind of career for themselves. There is something particularly nasty and vindictive about her though. At least he doesn’t try to hide his demons. She tries to come across all holier than thou when she has previous form for domestic violence

Sardonicat · 01-02-2020 12:17am

retro:electro wrote: »

I’d say there was a pair of them in it. Pair of drunks, both flaking one another out of it on the regular, both now trying to blame each other to try and salvage some kind of career for themselves. There is something particularly nasty and vindictive about her though. At least he doesn’t try to hide his demons. She tries to come across all holier than thou.

Well put. A nasty business all round.

creditcarder · 01-02-2020 12:19am

Silentcorner wrote: »

We have headbanger feminists running for Public Office trying to convince women that only they suffer from the "Epidemic of Domestic Violence" in the same week we have seen three kids *murdered in Dublin and a man murdered in Wexford by women....

I doubt the Amber Heard story will make much difference.

It is time to stop funding to organisations that are consistently guilty of misrepresenting statistics to the detriment of equality.

*Allegedly

Bingo This farce has to end.

misterme123 · 01-02-2020 12:41am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I am quite disgusting at her. She tried to become this poster child for domestic abuse.

Here is a tape that was consensually recorded in a therapy session apparently. She comes off as a manipulator.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7947733/Amber-Heard-admits-hitting-ex-husband-Johnny-Depp-pelting-pots-pans-tape.html

Whatever happened between them she wasn't the innocent victim she tried to pretend to be.

She has let down a lot of people.

She is such a terrible actress though. I don't know how anyone could have found her believable in the first place. That includes Johnny Depp/Elon Musk and co. What did they see in her?

Quantum Erasure · 01-02-2020 1:12am

ygolometsipe wrote: »

Amber heard can abuse me any time she wants!

nice....

anewme · 01-02-2020 1:16am

ygolometsipe wrote: »

Amber heard can abuse me any time she wants!

And this is why men feel compelled to say nothing when impacted by domestic abuse.

jaxxx · 01-02-2020 1:18am

I'm still gonna fap to her though.

In all seriousness though, false claims of domestic abuse are disgusting, nothing but a big "f*ck you" to genuine victims.

perrito caliente · 01-02-2020 2:04am

Hard to feel sorry for him after the Pirates films.

ILoveYourVibes · 01-02-2020 2:20am

Silentcorner wrote: »

We have headbanger feminists running for Public Office trying to convince women that only they suffer from the "Epidemic of Domestic Violence" in the same week we have seen three kids allegedlymurdered in Dublin and a man murdered in Wexford by women....

I doubt the Amber Heard story will make much difference.

It is time to stop funding to organisations that are consistently guilty of misrepresenting statistics to the detriment of equality.

This is a disgusting dishonorable attempt to twist the reality of the world we live in. You are as bad as Amber Heard herself. You will be ignored though.

ILoveYourVibes · 01-02-2020 2:21am

jaxxx wrote: »

I'm still gonna fap to her though.

In all seriousness though, false claims of domestic abuse are disgusting, nothing but a big "f*ck you" to genuine victims.

Exactly. Now people will use this to blame real victims.

She will get away with it because she is famous. But in the real world if a woman was to falsely claim this she would be charged.

Dave_The_Sheep · 01-02-2020 2:23am

perrito caliente wrote: »

Hard to feel sorry for him after the Pirates films.

Um. What?

Webstarx · 01-02-2020 2:30am

creditcarder wrote: »

Bingo This farce has to end.

Please don't say Bingo to make a point

ILoveYourVibes · 01-02-2020 2:44am

Webstarx wrote: »

Please don't say Bingo to make a point

Yeah ..say BAZUNGA!

Larbre34 · 01-02-2020 2:46am

Silentcorner wrote: »

We have headbanger feminists running for Public Office trying to convince women that only they suffer from the "Epidemic of Domestic Violence" in the same week we have seen three kids allegedly murdered in Dublin and a man murdered in Wexford by women....

You simply cannot conflate persistent chronic lower level domestic abuse by either partner with a single, horrific and thankfully rare incident of infanticide by a woman obviously suffering mental health issues beyond the comprehension of the average person.

ILoveYourVibes · 01-02-2020 2:51am

Silentcorner wrote: »

We have headbanger feminists running for Public Office trying to convince women that only they suffer from the "Epidemic of Domestic Violence" in the same week we have seen three kids allegedly murdered in Dublin and a man murdered in Wexford by women....

I doubt the Amber Heard story will make much difference.

It is time to stop funding to organisations that are consistently guilty of misrepresenting statistics to the detriment of equality.

BTW between 2003 and 2016 there was 1 reported case of infanticide in Ireland.
https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-rc/recordedcrimeq42017/homicidestatisticsrevisions/

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 01-02-2020 2:51am

What a psycho.

KimWexler · 01-02-2020 2:59am

Larbre34 wrote: »

You simply cannot conflate persistent chronic lower level domestic abuse by either partner with a single, horrific and thankfully rare incident of infanticide by a woman obviously suffering mental health issues beyond the comprehension of the average person.

Watch it play out, either her mental stability or her sex will bail her out. Whichever her PR team sees fit.

ILoveYourVibes · 01-02-2020 3:11am

KimWexler wrote: »

Watch it play out, either her mental stability or her sex will bail her out. Whichever her PR team sees fit.

Her PR team will bail her out. Her lawyers will bail her out.

You said it yourself.

A woman got a prison sentence for shooting a gun into the air in the states a couple of years ago when her husband threatened her.

Silentcorner · 01-02-2020 9:04am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

This is a disgusting dishonorable attempt to twist the reality of the world we live in. You are as bad as Amber Heard herself. You will be ignored though.

Bit of an hyterical reaction there, Amber Heard is bisexual, bisexual women and lesbian women record domestic abuse prevalence at a much much higher rate than other relationships, this completely conflicts with what the National Women's Council maintain, and several politicians that are running for office.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.01506/full

Mentioning the two tragic cases is not in good taste, I admit, but nonetheless it does expose the b##**** narrative that no media outlet is willing to do.

Amber Heard has been previously arrested for hitting her girlfriend, she has been accused of abusing her boyfriend and yet she is a UN Ambassador for Human Rights...because, it seems, there are no consequences for women when they abuse their partners.

pickarooney · 01-02-2020 9:14am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

BTW between 2003 and 2016 there was 1 reported case of infanticide in Ireland.
https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-rc/recordedcrimeq42017/homicidestatisticsrevisions/

If you ignore the hundreds of bodies they dug up in Galway, yeah.

Silentcorner · 01-02-2020 9:18am

Larbre34 wrote: »

You simply cannot conflate persistent chronic lower level domestic abuse by either partner with a single, horrific and thankfully rare incident of infanticide by a woman obviously suffering mental health issues beyond the comprehension of the average person.

You are right, you shouldn't, but it happens all the time...for whatever reason, Domestic Violence has been completely misrepresented to us to the point now where there is almost like a twisted point scoring dynamic going on...it is the victims, particularly male victims that will continue to suffer.

Outlaw Pete · 01-02-2020 10:16am

It was obvious from the get-go she was the instigator of the physical abuse. In the audio when he says that he pushed her back and away and only gets physical to defend himself, she doesn't dispute this and in fact mocks him for being admirable. End of the day we can see from his injuries that she has drawn blood. One witness even saying that when he went to their place he say Deep was covered in blood. That she went and became an ambassador for women's rights for the American Civil Liberties Union shows how bloody manipulative she is. A danger to men and rabbits too no doubt.

ceadaoin. · 01-02-2020 10:52am

It's not uncommon for victims of domestic abuse to fight back and be demonized for it. Its also not uncommon for a relationship to be mutually abusive, which I think was the case here. Some women are abusive arseholes. Some men are abusive arseholes. When they get together it's a **** show. They're both as bad as each other and it shouldn't be used as some sort of gotcha card against a whole group of people.

golfball37 · 01-02-2020 10:57am

Let’s hope Aodhan is along soon to say #ibelieveher

01-02-2020 11:00am

ceadaoin. wrote: »

It's not uncommon for victims of domestic abuse to fight back and be demonized for it. Its also not uncommon for a relationship to be mutually abusive, which I think was the case here. Some women are abusive arseholes. Some men are abusive arseholes. When they get together it's a **** show. They're both as bad as each other and it shouldn't be used as some sort of gotcha card against a whole group of people.

True... but it should be used to highlight the double standard that exists in society about domestic abuse. Not to target females, or dismiss the problems they face, but to recognise that abuse is not gender specific which has been promoted in the past.

We really need to be moving away from this idea that women are the only possible victims with domestic abuse, and encouraging a platform for males to come forward, report their problems, and gain protection from their spouses. Both social and legal protections. Just as women have received over the last three decades.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 01-02-2020 11:05am

ceadaoin. wrote: »

It's not uncommon for victims of domestic abuse to fight back and be demonized for it. Its also not uncommon for a relationship to be mutually abusive, which I think was the case here. Some women are abusive arseholes. Some men are abusive arseholes. When they get together it's a **** show. They're both as bad as each other and it shouldn't be used as some sort of gotcha card against a whole group of people.

It will be, even though many people were just using the information available at the time, that they both seemed nuts but that we didn’t know who had done what. Heard’s previous partner denied she was ever abusive, Depp’s former partners denied he was ever abusive. Now we know more and can revise our viewpoints in light of new information but it will still be used as a “Gotcha!” card for sure.

ceadaoin. · 01-02-2020 11:13am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

True... but it should be used to highlight the double standard that exists in society about domestic abuse. Not to target females, or dismiss the problems they face, but to recognise that abuse is not gender specific which has been promoted in the past.

We really need to be moving away from this idea that women are the only possible victims with domestic abuse, and encouraging a platform for males to come forward, report their problems, and gain protection from their spouses. Both social and legal protections. Just as women have received over the last three decades.

Women didnt just "receive" those protections, they campaigned and fought for them because there was a need for it. They set up support networks and shelters because there was a need for them, and there still is. I absolutely agree that men should have access to the same services if needed, so perhaps a concerted effort is needed to do so?

01-02-2020 11:19am

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Women didnt just "receive" those protections, they campaigned and fought for them because there was a need for it. They set up support networks and shelters because there was a need for them, and there still is. I absolutely agree that men should have access to the same services if needed, so perhaps a concerted effort is needed to do so?

Why?

Genuine question. I don't understand why males need to campaign for protections that society has grown to accept for females. The society of today is not the society of the past. Sexism and institutionalised discrimination are essentially things of the past except on the individual level, and even then, there are numerous laws to curtail that. Supposedly those laws are in for both genders.

So, I'm wondering if males need to campaign for parity with females for all rights and protections in a society that constantly claims to be seeking equality for the genders?

ceadaoin. · 01-02-2020 11:25am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why?

Genuine question. I don't understand why males need to campaign for protections that society has grown to accept for females. The society of today is not the society of the past. Sexism and institutionalised discrimination are essentially things of the past except on the individual level, and even then, there are numerous laws to curtail that. Supposedly those laws are in for both genders.

So, I'm wondering if males need to campaign for parity with females for all rights and protections in a society that constantly claims to be seeking equality for the genders?

You seem to think women just sat back and did nothing while shelters , protections etc were set up? Not the case. Obviously there are reasons why there is a need for separate shelters for men, so why shouldn't they work to get them set up?

spurious · 01-02-2020 11:28am

Silentcorner wrote:

Bit of an hyterical reaction there, Amber Heard is bisexual, bisexual women and lesbian women record domestic abuse prevalence at a much much higher rate than other relationships.

'Comparable to or higher' does not mean 'at a much much higher prevalence'.

It will all be the women's fault anyway. All the better if they are man-hating gayers.

01-02-2020 11:29am

ceadaoin. wrote: »

You seem to think women just sat back and did nothing while shelters , protections etc were set up? Not the case. Obviously there are reasons why there is a need for separate shelters for men, so why shouldn't they work to get them set up?

Actually, you're the one repeatedly assuming what I think. I didn't suggest anything even remotely like that.

Outlaw Pete · 01-02-2020 11:31am

ceadaoin. wrote: »

They're both as bad as each other...

No they're bloody not. She's a violent abuser and should be called out as such.

Listen to this part alone where she mocks Depp for walking away from her getting violent with him:

https://twitter.com/jonsmanager/status/1223350526437462018

cursai · 01-02-2020 11:32am

Very short tapes. Wheres the rest of them?

KiKi III · 01-02-2020 11:35am

Silentcorner wrote: »

We have headbanger feminists running for Public Office trying to convince women that only they suffer from the "Epidemic of Domestic Violence" in the same week we have seen three kids allegedly murdered in Dublin and a man murdered in Wexford by women....

I doubt the Amber Heard story will make much difference.

It is time to stop funding to organisations that are consistently guilty of misrepresenting statistics to the detriment of equality.

There are plenty of stats out there on domestic violence; using a particular week that would be an outlier in the stats to suggest we stop funding organisations that support women says more about your ideological agenda on "headbanger feminists" than it does about domestic violence.

EmmetSpiceland · 01-02-2020 11:36am

Way past time this thread was moved to the “Current Affairs” forum.

AH doesn’t need to be “compromised” any further.

begbysback · 01-02-2020 11:37am

cursai wrote: »

Very short tapes. Wheres the rest of them?

Yea, and from “therapy” - I do hope if I end up on a couch that the contents of my head isn’t published on Twitter.

I still think she’s is guilty but I do hate being spoon fed snippets, always seems to have a hidden agenda.

01-02-2020 11:41am

KiKi III wrote: »

There are plenty of stats out there on domestic violence; using a particular week that would be an outlier in the stats to suggest we stop funding organisations that support women says more about your ideological agenda on "headbanger feminists" than it does about domestic violence.

Silentcorner wrote:

it is time to stop funding to organisations that are consistently guilty of misrepresenting statistics to the detriment of equality.

Right.... :rolleyes:

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 01-02-2020 11:55am

Silentcorner wrote: »

Bit of an hyterical reaction there, Amber Heard is bisexual, bisexual women and lesbian women record domestic abuse prevalence at a much much higher rate than other relationships, this completely conflicts with what the National Women's Council maintain, and several politicians that are running for office.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.01506/full

Mentioning the two tragic cases is not in good taste, I admit, but nonetheless it does expose the b##**** narrative that no media outlet is willing to do.

Amber Heard has been previously arrested for hitting her girlfriend, she has been accused of abusing her boyfriend and yet she is a UN Ambassador for Human Rights...because, it seems, there are no consequences for women when they abuse their partners.

On this, the previous partners of both Depp and Heard said that they weren’t abused by them. Heard’s girlfriend said the arrest was wrongful. Until Heard’s admission that she did physically abuse Depp, we didn’t really know what the story was. If people didn’t want to jump to conclusions about Depp, it was only right to afford Heard the same courtesy in the absence of any evidence.

Raconteuse · 01-02-2020 11:59am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

This is a disgusting dishonorable attempt to twist the reality of the world we live in. You are as bad as Amber Heard herself. You will be ignored though.

They're as bad as Amber Heard, who assaulted someone, for posting words on the internet?

And to be honest, in infanticide cases, it does bother me when it's said woman = depressed, but man = abusive, murdering bastard. Why can't the man be depressed? He more than likely was. But both are murderers in each scenario whatever their mental state.

KiKi III · 01-02-2020 12:04pm

When men use a story like this as a platform to advocate for more services for men and a more open culture for them to come forward, I applaud them. I'd like to see a lot more of that.

When men use a story like this as a stick to beat feminism, I question their commitment to male victims of domestic violence.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 01-02-2020 12:04pm

Raconteuse wrote: »

They're as bad as Amber Heard, who assaulted someone, for posting words on the internet?

And to be honest, in infanticide cases, it does bother me when it's said woman = depressed, but man = abusive, murdering bastard. Why can't the man be depressed? He more than likely was. But both are murderers in each scenario whatever their mental state.

The obvious comparison has been between the Hawe case and the McGinley case. Alan Hawe’s mental health was discussed a LOT. It’s erroneous to say otherwise.

KiKi III · 01-02-2020 12:06pm

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

The obvious comparison has been between the Hawe case and the McGinley case. Alan Hawe’s mental health was discussed a LOT. It’s erroneous to say otherwise.

Yup, the fact that he'd been going to counselling came up a lot.

Raconteuse · 01-02-2020 12:09pm

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

The obvious comparison has been between the Hawe case and the McGinley case. Alan Hawe’s mental health was discussed a LOT. It’s erroneous to say otherwise.

That's exactly what I mean - talk of Hawe's possible mental state was swiftly and aggressively shut down.

mondeo · 01-02-2020 12:12pm

I was leaning towards Amber Heard until i heard these recordings.

KiKi III · 01-02-2020 12:19pm

Raconteuse wrote: »

That's exactly what I mean - talk of Hawe's possible mental state was swiftly and aggressively shut down.

I don't remember that being the case at all. I remember it being discussed extensively.

One prominent difference between the two cases I haven't seen discussed a lot was the manner of killing. Hawe was brutally violent. I remember reading that one of the kids had defensive wounds on his hands, he tried to fight him off.

We don't have autopsy details yet for the McGinley children, but we know they had know marks on their bodies. The early speculation is that they were sedated and then smothered.

Infanticide is infanticide, but it does seem that whatever prompted her to kill her children, she tried to give them the most painless deaths possible.

It doesn't make the outcome any better, but I think it's a distinction between the two cases that hasn't really been mentioned.

Amber Heard admits to beating up Johnny Depp

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