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  • #52
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    faceman wrote: »
    Either you're not following my point or I dont understand what you're talking about. Or both.


    what



    you said cases are falling rapidly in Spain



    the plateau you are seeing in ireland isn't happening here


    but the opposite is the case


    Spain is plateauing, and at a much higher rate and cases aren't dropping rapidly,



    But they are here


  • #53
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    faceman wrote: »
    Either you're not following my point or I dont understand what you're talking about. Or both.




    even on cases and deaths from the end of the summer to now spain has been doing very badly next to doom and gloom ireland


  • #54
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    https://twitter.com/Niall_Boylan/status/1359596785849823233?s=20

    So that's it, foreign travel is essentially over, it will take years - decades even to vaccinate the whole world.
    I've accepted I'll never see my parents again, maybe when I retire I'll get to see Ireland again.

    And TEN YEARS IN PRISON for people in the UK lying about where they have been !!! think about that for a second ....


    In the meantime, there is some fantastic 4K youtube travel videos out there, city walks and all ...


  • #55
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/Niall_Boylan/status/1359596785849823233?s=20

    So that's it, foreign travel is essentially over, it will take years - decades even to vaccinate the whole world.
    I've accepted I'll never see my parents again, maybe when I retire I'll get to see Ireland again.

    And TEN YEARS IN PRISON for people in the UK lying about where they have been !!! think about that for a second ....


    In the meantime, there is some fantastic 4K youtube travel videos out there, city walks and all ...






    don't be putting to much on what anyone in the UK government ever says


    they change their minds by the hour


    its a fine and up to 10 years, no one will ever get 10 years for it


  • #56
    Del Griffith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭Del Griffith


    monkeybutter wrote: »
    don't be putting to much on what anyone in the UK government ever says


    they change their minds by the hour


    its a fine and up to 10 years, no one will ever get 10 years for it

    The 10 years max is for extreme stuff, like someone from a redzone with a positive test doing a legger from quarantine.. that sort of thing.

    I absolutely hate what they are doing, don't get me wrong, but it's bat**** crazy enough without confusing the matter by thinking a 10 year sentence could happen for standard travelling.


  • #57
    Whiplash85
    Registered Users Posts: 738 ✭✭✭Whiplash85


    Del Griffith wrote: »
    The 10 years max is for extreme stuff, like someone from a redzone with a positive test doing a legger from quarantine.. that sort of thing.

    I absolutely hate what they are doing, don't get me wrong, but it's bat**** crazy enough without confusing the matter by thinking a 10 year sentence could happen for standard travelling.


    10 years is mental. Would you get 10 years for smuggling drugs overseas. I'm sure there have been people who have killed other people in this country and served less.


  • #58
    Del Griffith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭Del Griffith


    Whiplash85 wrote: »
    10 years is mental. Would you get 10 years for smuggling drugs overseas. I'm sure there have been people who have killed other people in this country and served less.

    I agree with you


  • #59
    dmcsweeney
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 302 ✭✭dmcsweeney


    The tone from MM sounds a bit more promising on RTE this morning;

    Mr Martin said people should not be undertaking non-essential international travel, which is a breach of Level 5 restrictions.

    He added that Ireland has to think beyond mandatory quarantine as "otherwise in the medium- to long-term we end up as prisoners in our own country".


  • #60
    Theboinkmaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    faceman wrote: »
    Spain has a population of 50m Ireland has a population of less than 5m

    By plateau I was referring to Ireland’s daily cases currently sticking around the 1,000 mark

    There’s no plateau - Ireland cases nos are steadily dropping.


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  • #61
    RobitTV
    Registered Users Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    UK: Ryanair boss Michael O'Leary spoke today of his optimism for summer holidays, despite Transport Secretary Grant Shapp's warning earlier against booking travel Link

    Holidays can be booked confidently, Ryanair CEO Michael O'Leary claimed today. The airline boss spoke to BBC about his hopes for travel from the spring. "I still remain optimistic that people will be allowed to travel from May onwards," the airline boss said.


  • #62
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    There’s no plateau - Ireland cases nos are steadily dropping.

    the rain in Spain, stays mostly on the...... plateau?


  • #63
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    RobitTV wrote: »
    UK: Ryanair boss Michael O'Leary spoke today of his optimism for summer holidays, despite Transport Secretary Grant Shapp's warning earlier against booking travel Link

    Holidays can be booked confidently, Ryanair CEO Michael O'Leary claimed today. The airline boss spoke to BBC about his hopes for travel from the spring. "I still remain optimistic that people will be allowed to travel from May onwards," the airline boss said.

    I still remain mostly optimistic that we wont refund you those flights :pac:


  • #64
    faceman
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    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    There’s no plateau - Ireland cases nos are steadily dropping.

    Perhaps plateau is the wrong word

    https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/coronavirus-ireland-significant-improvement-case-19747775

    https://www.thejournal.ie/key-points-nphet-covid-5348972-Feb2021/

    Or maybe I’m wrong and it just looks like cases are hovering around the 1,000 mark daily despite the level 5 lockdown


  • #65
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    faceman wrote: »
    Perhaps plateau is the wrong word

    https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/coronavirus-ireland-significant-improvement-case-19747775

    https://www.thejournal.ie/key-points-nphet-covid-5348972-Feb2021/

    Or maybe I’m wrong and it just looks like cases are hovering around the 1,000 mark daily despite the level 5 lockdown



    plateau is the right word


    that the problem with not looking at the stats



    you get low weekend numbers and high Wednesday numbers etc and if you just look at yesterdays figures you get a false impression


    the trend is down, but a drop of 4k to 2k in 2 weeks is still the same as a drop from 1000 to 500 in relative terms




    if you can't rely on the examiner to get the number of people holidaying right then why would you rely on the journal for this


  • #66
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    dalyboy wrote: »
    In fairness to the UK that 10 year jail sentence will apply to lying on return from the red list countries.
    I seriously doubt anyone will actually be served this sentence.
    10 year sentence for this “crime” would make the UK a virtual North Korean style governance the accepted status quo.

    The UK have taken a much stronger stance on the issue of those trying to blag a holiday abroad by trying to evade restrictions

    Previously posted this to contrast with our own restrictions.

    https://twitter.com/FCDOGovUK/status/1355221672605978628?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1355221672605978628%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boards.ie%2Fvbulletin%2Fshowthread.php%3Fp%3D116230154

    Maybe the government need to stop appealing to people's better natures because it certainly does not seem to working for some.


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  • #67
    faceman
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    monkeybutter wrote: »
    plateau is the right word


    that the problem with not looking at the stats



    you get low weekend numbers and high Wednesday numbers etc and if you just look at yesterdays figures you get a false impression


    the trend is down, but a drop of 4k to 2k in 2 weeks is still the same as a drop from 1000 to 500 in relative terms




    if you can't rely on the examiner to get the number of people holidaying right then why would you rely on the journal for this

    Fair. I guess we will see how it plays out in a couple of weeks

    Also don’t knock the journal, without the comments section we would never be able to feel good about ourselves :p


  • #68
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    gozunda wrote: »
    I already posted this. But yes the UK on taken a much stronger stance on the issue of those trying to blag a holiday by trying to evade restrictions

    https://twitter.com/FCDOGovUK/status/1355221672605978628?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1355221672605978628%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boards.ie%2Fvbulletin%2Fshowthread.php%3Fp%3D116230154

    Maybe the government need to stop appealing to people's better natures because it certainly does not seem to working for some.


    In fairness to the Brits though, at least accompanied by their draconian measures they are at still complementing it with a steady stream of vaccinations so they have something to be optimistic about.

    Here, we're still trundling along as we always do and waiting to follow someone else's lead. Pat Kenny mentioned this morning the Germans went off and ordered another 30,000,000 vaccines themselves for their citizens. Hungarians are about to do the same. We however are stuck in a 'state of chassis' to quote O'Casey's character.


  • #69
    Father Hernandez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭Father Hernandez


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    In fairness to the Brits though, at least accompanied by their draconian measures they are at still complementing it with a steady stream of vaccinations so they have something to be optimistic about.

    Here, we're still trundling along as we always do and waiting to follow someone else's lead. Pat Kenny mentioned this morning the Germans went off and ordered another 30,000,000 vaccines themselves for their citizens. Hungarians are about to do the same. We however are stuck in a 'state of chassis' to quote O'Casey's character.

    https://twitter.com/KarlBrophy/status/1359819211799998464?s=20


  • #70
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Father Hernandez wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/KarlBrophy/status/1359819211799998464?s=20
    Just gets better. Oh Lord.


  • #71
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    In fairness to the Brits though, at least accompanied by their draconian measures they are at still complementing it with a steady stream of vaccinations so they have something to be optimistic about.

    Here, we're still trundling along as we always do and waiting to follow someone else's lead. Pat Kenny mentioned this morning the Germans went off and ordered another 30,000,000 vaccines themselves for their citizens. Hungarians are about to do the same. We however are stuck in a 'state of chassis' to quote O'Casey's character.






    they wont arrive until after end of the summer, been dunked 50 times at this stage


    not sure hungary is the place to be copying either


    when will they even get these vaccines in the first place, i'm sure the Russians will not be throwing them away


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  • #72
    darem93
    Registered Users Posts: 200 ✭✭darem93


    Father Hernandez wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/KarlBrophy/status/1359819211799998464?s=20
    Aw sweet Jesus, that is shocking. And considering we've been left in a position that vaccines are the only way out of this mess, it makes it all the more frustrating.

    It's no wonder morale is at an all time low in this country at the minute. As pointed out above, at least the Brits have been powering through their vaccine programme and now seem to be taking international travel seriously too. Over here it just feels like groundhog day.


  • #73
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    darem93 wrote: »
    Aw sweet Jesus, that is shocking. And considering we've been left in a position that vaccines are the only way out of this mess, it makes it all the more frustrating.

    It's no wonder morale is at an all time low in this country at the minute. As pointed out above, at least the Brits have been powering through their vaccine programme and now seem to be taking international travel seriously too. Over here it just feels like groundhog day.




    morale is grand, blitz spirit, chin up


    if you aren't drowning in your own body fluid you will be grand


    vaccines were always the only way out of this once it went worldwide


    so no one has left us in the position


    i'm sure there is a reason for the numbers


    versus scotland numbers etc, the supply of AZ is low here and its much easier to dispense that


  • #74
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,999 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Is it considered essential travel if I go to London and register for the Vaccine so I can save myself 12 months of waiting around for it here? :confused:


  • #75
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Is it considered essential travel if I go to London and register for the Vaccine so I can save myself 12 months of waiting around for it here? :confused:




    Have you heard of a place called Northern Ireland? The clue is in the name. Ireland

    you could walk there, might take your mind off this


  • #76
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Is it considered essential travel if I go to London and register for the Vaccine so I can save myself 12 months of waiting around for it here? :confused:

    Do you think the government will open everything up once you get your vaccine?


  • #77
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,999 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    monkeybutter wrote: »
    Have you heard of a place called Northern Ireland? The clue is in the name. Ireland

    you could walk there, might take your mind off this

    Wtf? :confused:


  • #78
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,999 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Do you think the government will open everything up once you get your vaccine?

    Yes.


  • #79
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Wtf? :confused:






    why go to London :confused:


  • #80
    RobitTV
    Registered Users Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    Northern Ireland: Covid restrictions will return in autumn and last into 2022 after respite in summer, warns Chief Medical Officer McBride

    Speaking at the Department of Health’s weekly briefing yesterday afternoon, he said: “I suspect that we will require some degree of the current restrictions, certainly for the rest of this year, probably enhanced again in the autumn and winter of this year, and I think it will probably be into the following year before we see things a little more normal.

    Belfast Telegraph

    Move abroad this summer and don't come back. It's over.

    You know Holohan will 100% recommend the same as this guy McBride.


  • #81
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Is it considered essential travel if I go to London and register for the Vaccine so I can save myself 12 months of waiting around for it here? :confused:

    You would need to be:

    A) A UK Resident
    B) Registered with a GP practice there (easier said than done - with some GP practices having considerable waiting lists)
    C) Have a UK National Health Number

    Just remember its not going to allow you travel abroad at present as UK residents are not permitted to travel for holiday or other leisure purposes


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  • #82
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,649 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Do you think the government will open everything up once you get your vaccine?

    Tangent comment but the CDC is dropping the quarantine requirement for vaccinated people even if they are close contact. As long as they have no symptoms


  • #83
    dmcsweeney
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 302 ✭✭dmcsweeney


    RobitTV wrote: »
    Northern Ireland: Covid restrictions will return in autumn and last into 2022 after respite in summer, warns Chief Medical Officer McBride

    Speaking at the Department of Health’s weekly briefing yesterday afternoon, he said: “I suspect that we will require some degree of the current restrictions, certainly for the rest of this year, probably enhanced again in the autumn and winter of this year, and I think it will probably be into the following year before we see things a little more normal.

    Belfast Telegraph

    Move abroad this summer and don't come back. It's over.

    You know Holohan will 100% recommend the same as this guy McBride.

    There is only one way to stop all this, give these guys their own reality show on tv, that'll keep them happy. Better again, they could be prison wardens on their tv show.


  • #84
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,999 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    gozunda wrote: »
    You would need to be:
    A) A UK Resident
    B) Registered with a GP practice there (easier said than done - with some GP practices having considerable waiting lists)
    C) Have a UK National Insurance Number
    Just remember its not going to allow you travel at present as UK residents are not permitted to travel for holiday or other leisure purposes

    How do you know I don't have the above?
    Even if I didn't then it's a very safe assumption I'd know all about the requirements.
    But thanks for stating the obvious facts...:rolleyes:


  • #85
    dmcsweeney
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 302 ✭✭dmcsweeney


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Do you think the government will open everything up once you get your vaccine?

    Not a hope. The way they're talking at the moment, even if they vaccinate the entire population, they'll keep us locked down for fear of new mutations.


  • #86
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    How do you know I don't have the above?
    Even if I didn't then it's a very safe assumption I'd know all about the requirements.
    But thanks for stating the obvious facts...:rolleyes:






    wait are admitting you are a Tory after all :pac:


  • #87
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,999 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    monkeybutter wrote: »
    wait are admitting you are a Tory after all :pac:

    Did you reply with the wrong account there "Gozunda?"




    (p.s. I'm not here for your entertainment so won't be replying)


  • #88
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    How do you know I don't have the above?
    Even if I didn't then it's a very safe assumption I'd know all about the requirements.
    But thanks for stating the obvious facts...:rolleyes:

    Did I say otherwise?

    Do you always presume that a reply means is a personal statement?


  • #89
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Did you reply with the wrong account there "Gozunda?"




    (p.s. I'm not here for your entertainment so won't be replying)




    Sorry to upset you RobiTV or whatever your real name is

    Maggie Thatcher ... your boys took a hell of a beating!


  • #90
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Passport issue and renewal suspended until travel restrictions lifted.

    That's insane. What about people who need to leave for essential purposes?


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  • #91
    RobitTV
    Registered Users Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    monkeybutter wrote: »
    Sorry to upset you RobiTV or whatever your real name is

    Maggie Thatcher ... your boys took a hell of a beating!

    What on earth are you talking about? stick to the travel subject.


  • #92
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Do you think the government will open everything up once you get your vaccine?

    Well Israel, Denmark and Greece are prepared to work alongside each other in opening up and welcoming tourists who are vaccinated according to same report on Kenny this morning.


  • #93
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Is it considered essential travel if I go to London and register for the Vaccine so I can save myself 12 months of waiting around for it here? :confused:

    Are we even eligible to receive a vaccine in the UK?


  • #94
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Is it considered essential travel if I go to London and register for the Vaccine so I can save myself 12 months of waiting around for it here? :confused:
    gozunda wrote: »
    You would need to be:

    A) A UK Resident
    B) Registered with a GP practice there (easier said than done - with some GP practices having considerable waiting lists)
    C) Have a UK National Insurance Number

    Just remember its not going to allow you travel abroad at present as UK residents are not permitted to travel for holiday or other leisure purposes

    I'm.not so sure about that. Every country will be vaccinating everyone, even illegal immigrants.


  • #95
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,999 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    gozunda wrote: »
    Did I say otherwise?

    Do you always presume that a reply means is a personal statement?

    It was a rhetorical statement anyways! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


  • #96
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    That's insane. What about people who need to leave for essential purposes?
    Emergency Passport service

    If you need a passport for travel in an emergency, please contact us through our WebChat service.

    An emergency is defined as death or grave illness of an immediate family member, with a need for urgent travel within the next few days or for emergency medical treatment of the applicant.

    The Emergency team will request proof of emergency.

    First-time applications require a longer processing time.

    https://www.dfa.ie/passports/


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  • #97
    scouserstation
    Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭scouserstation


    Meanwhile life continues as normal in SA, is anybody else seeing a pattern here

    Prof. Wasim Hanif (@docwas) Tweeted:
    South Africa COVID cases plummeting with very few lockdown restrictions. What is happening here? No effect of the so called South African variant also vaccination not started https://t.co/nn2ZSTokQz https://twitter.com/docwas/status/1359561529276907522?s=20


  • #98
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    I'm.not so sure about that. Every country will be vaccinating everyone, even illegal immigrants.

    Yup that is inclusive of immigrants regardless of immigration status.

    The vaccination program in the UK is being coordinated by the NHS and GP surgeries .

    Anyone looking to be vaccinated needs to register with a gp there regardless of their immigration status. GP registration usually require a National Health number and an address for communication and treatment purposes - though I believe there are exceptions allowed for those with no permanent address etc.


  • #99
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    scouserstation wrote: »
    Meanwhile life continues as normal in SA, is anybody else seeing a pattern here

    Prof. Wasim Hanif (@docwas) Tweeted:
    South Africa COVID cases plummeting with very few lockdown restrictions. What is happening here? No effect of the so called South African variant also vaccination not started https://t.co/nn2ZSTokQz https://twitter.com/docwas/status/1359561529276907522?s=20




    are/were they not in a lockdown? they had exactly the same spike we did


    despite



    1. Being upside down
    2. it being sunny there


    what is this pattern


  • #100
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    scouserstation wrote: »
    Meanwhile life continues as normal in SA, is anybody else seeing a pattern here

    Prof. Wasim Hanif (@docwas) Tweeted:
    South Africa COVID cases plummeting with very few lockdown restrictions. What is happening here? No effect of the so called South African variant also vaccination not started https://t.co/nn2ZSTokQz https://twitter.com/docwas/status/1359561529276907522?s=20

    I was talking to my cousin in CT USA . She says their lives are pretty normal bar they can’t have as many people in restaurants etc. USA cases are dropping off a cliff too.


  • #101
    stoneill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭stoneill


    Yes - a good pattern to show that December/January lockdown in SA and a mask mandates do make a difference!


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