Waterford North Quays

Aquos76 · 22-11-2020 8:23pm

I do t have time to be reading through every single post on here, if someone reports a post then I will look in to the threat then. The conversations about the mosques was taking the thread off topic and if I was to ban one, I would have had to ban 4/5 others then so it was just easier to delete the posts and try get the thread back on topic.

There might be plenty who spend all day on the Waterford forum and they have the time to read every post, I certainly don’t have.

smellyoldboot · 22-11-2020 8:56pm

friendlyfun wrote: »

Interesting the amount of radical right accounts that they to shoehorn their race into absolutely every discussion.

Interesting the amount of dead head leftys whose only point of attack is the last resort of the destitute : Just scream RACIST until someone comes and makes the bad people stop hurting their little minds.

skodacb · 22-11-2020 9:13pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

I'd imagine something will be done with that site now, it's value will be rocketing, a third bridge maybe needed now, with the increase in traffic

Just on the third bridge, where would traffic flow to? Lombard Street all the way out to the woodlands is a bottleneck at peak times.

The bypass made sense as it removed HGV traffic from the Quays as well as the village of Kilmeaden, but I couldn't see a third bridge making it easier for those living along the Dunmore Rd.

Harry Palmr · 22-11-2020 9:19pm

Rob Cass, and this came from him talking with the council says a bridge at the Tower end of the quay is just about the least likely new element that would be built.

Flyin Irishman · 22-11-2020 9:25pm

skodacb wrote: »

Just on the third bridge, where would traffic flow to? Lombard Street all the way out to the woodlands is a bottleneck at peak times.

The bypass made sense as it removed HGV traffic from the Quays as well as the village of Kilmeaden, but I couldn't see a third bridge making it easier for those living along the Dunmore Rd.

Pure, pie-in-the-sky, dreamland stuff, but the 2 most ideal places for bridges would probably be either

At the bend in front of the Tower hotel (Could be used to turn the South Quays/North Quays into a giant one-way system like Enniscorthy)
Joining up with the ring road to form a full circular Waterford bypass. Not sure how this could even possibly work though as it would essentially have to run right through Ardkeen/Maypark with the current ring road layout

invara · 22-11-2020 9:40pm

Flyin Irishman wrote: »

Pure, pie-in-the-sky, dreamland stuff, but the 2 most ideal places for bridges would probably be either
At the bend in front of the Tower hotel (Could be used to turn the South Quays/North Quays into a giant one-way system like Enniscorthy)

Joining up with the ring road to form a full circular Waterford bypass. Not sure how this could even possibly work though as it would essentially have to run right through Ardkeen/Maypark with the current ring road layout

As I know there are two bridges envisaged but not planned as for ... one city Tower/peoples park and the other on the ring road MayparkLane/Kings channel or Faithlegg. There are no easy options here. Wexford needs quicker access to the hospital.. cut 15-30 minutes off the journey. With the Ireland 2040 plans, this needs to be done before we turn into Galway and end up with an unworkable city.

Dunmoreroader · 23-11-2020 12:45am

invara wrote: »

As I know there are two bridges envisaged but not planned as for ... one city Tower/peoples park and the other on the ring road MayparkLane/Kings channel or Faithlegg. There are no easy options here. Wexford needs quicker access to the hospital.. cut 15-30 minutes off the journey. With the Ireland 2040 plans, this needs to be done before we turn into Galway and end up with an unworkable city.

Bridge crossing at Maypark Nursing Home has been included in previous City development plans but probably needs to be further out now like Blenheim.

Wanderer78 · 23-11-2020 6:36am

smellyoldboot wrote:

Interesting the amount of dead head leftys whose only point of attack is the last resort of the destitute : Just scream RACIST until someone comes and makes the bad people stop hurting their little minds.

That's funny, I've found some righties to be the most sensitive souls on the planet, trump is a perfect example, but cluster b's generally are

friendlyfun · 23-11-2020 8:35am

smellyoldboot wrote: »

Interesting the amount of dead head leftys whose only point of attack is the last resort of the destitute : Just scream RACIST until someone comes and makes the bad people stop hurting their little minds.

Just because you're against the far right doesn't make you a leftie.

mooseknunkle · 23-11-2020 4:55pm

Aquos76 wrote: »

I do t have time to be reading through every single post on here, if someone reports a post then I will look in to the threat then. The conversations about the mosques was taking the thread off topic and if I was to ban one, I would have had to ban 4/5 others then so it was just easier to delete the posts and try get the thread back on topic.

There might be plenty who spend all day on the Waterford forum and they have the time to read every post, I certainly don’t have.

Not being smart with you but why are you even a mod if you are only waiting for people to report posts instead of acting on your own instinct,the Waterford forum isn't busy it would take a couple of minutes to skim through all the post made here in a 24hr period,and its clear as day vriesmays is a troll its not a different view,every post of his is to cause a reaction and that's 100% trolling surely mods don't need people to report this?

And actually on the moderation of this forum,sully and ziedth haven't posted on here in years,yourself and cabaal post every now and then,gaspode seems to be the only one that acts on things,maybe what this place needs is a bit of freshen up, out with the old and in with the new as they say ,a few new mods who are active on here might make the place a bit more enjoyable because at the moment a handful of people are dragging the place down and nothing is being done about it.

Aquos76 · 23-11-2020 6:26pm

As they say, being a mod is a thankless job

why don’t you put yourself forward?

mooseknunkle · 23-11-2020 6:32pm

Not a hope would i do it

But plenty of decent posters on here who would be good at it

Aquos76 · 23-11-2020 6:34pm

The problem is, those that have the time now may not in a couple of months/years. I’m a mod on here about 10 years, things have changed drastically in that time. I wouldn’t even know how we’d go about having a mod overhaul to be honest. But I’ve no problem stepping aside if someone else would like to take over.

Gaspode · 23-11-2020 8:31pm

Right folks, the problem here is not with moderators, it's failing to stay on topic. There is also a rule in the charter (remember that!) that you should not discuss or dispute moderation on thread. The topic is about the long proposed development and not who is a leftie or rightie, muslims, mosques, kilkenny or any other distractions.

Bans will follow if this instruction is ignored

PTH2009 · 23-11-2020 8:42pm

Will construction be started by this time next year ?

Harry Palmr · 23-11-2020 9:03pm

The quays will take about 15-18 months to be re-enforced but that's plenty of time to work on the access roads and maybe start the south end of the bridge.

Dunmoreroader · 23-11-2020 10:28pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The quays will take about 15-18 months to be re-enforced but that's plenty of time to work on the access roads and maybe start the south end of the bridge.

Reinforced? I understood the old wharfs and pillars were being removed and completely replaced, no?

Harry Palmr · 23-11-2020 10:33pm

Yes your version of events is better put than mine. I was lazy on phone!

Asdfgh2020 · 24-11-2020 1:04am

Dunmoreroader wrote: »

Reinforced? I understood the old wharfs and pillars were being removed and completely replaced, no?

Thought there was a below ground car park going in somewhere with the site......does anyone have any details....?

PTH2009 · 24-11-2020 2:34am

Blast from the past

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v002kf_YfZc

24-11-2020 12:02pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Blast from the past

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v002kf_YfZc

I had forgotten completely that this event was staged here!

Wanderer78 · 24-11-2020 12:16pm

Oscar Madison wrote: »

I had forgotten completely that this event was staged here!

would loved to have seen it, was out of the country at the time, no reason why we couldnt have many activities held on the river now, we ll have all the facilities to do so now

Harry Palmr · 24-11-2020 12:24pm

I vaguely remember that - it was like the Rothmans Rally Saturday on crack.

PTH2009 · 24-11-2020 4:01pm

What other events happened around the place when that was on if anyone can remember?

That would of been the time when the city centre had a good few pubs

Dunmoreroader · 24-11-2020 6:00pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

What other events happened around the place when that was on if anyone can remember?

That would of been the time when the city centre had a good few pubs

New Years Eve in front of the Clock Tower on the Quay. Clock struck twelve, it was like Sodom & Gomorrah. Might be going back a bit before 2002 mind you.

Harry Palmr · 28-11-2020 10:28am

CPO of Clock Tower section of South quays.

https://twitter.com/MulliganEddie/status/1332601869861052418?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1332601869861052418%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpublish.twitter.com%2F%3Fquery%3Dhttps3A2F2Ftwitter.com2FMulliganEddie2Fstatus2F1332601869861052418widget%3DTweet

spaceCreated · 29-11-2020 1:47pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

CPO of Clock Tower section of South quays.

https://twitter.com/MulliganEddie/status/1332601869861052418?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1332601869861052418%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpublish.twitter.com%2F%3Fquery%3Dhttps3A2F2Ftwitter.com2FMulliganEddie2Fstatus2F1332601869861052418widget%3DTweet

The designs look amazing, we've needed to remove those car parks for years, hopefully its the start of a process and we can start using multi story car parks like every other city in the world rather than ruining one of the best thing about Waterford.

vriesmays · 29-11-2020 3:23pm

The best things in Waterford have already been ruined.

Harry Palmr · 29-11-2020 3:40pm

Things improved hugely when you left.

vriesmays · 29-11-2020 3:45pm

No planes for the airport, most of the glass gone, St Johns College converted into a housing shelter, Ardree gone, the town declared a sanctuary for asylum chancers, and the travellers' new mecca Carrickpherish Road.

Aquos76 · 29-11-2020 4:13pm

vriesmays wrote: »

No planes for the airport, most of the glass gone, St Johns College converted into a housing shelter, Ardree gone, the town declared a sanctuary for asylum chancers, and the travellers' new mecca Carrickpherish Road.

Ok, my patience are gone with you now, I’ve no idea why you even post in the Waterford forum, it just seems that you are only posting to get a reaction, well dunno something you just have, you can take a holiday from here now, I’m banning you from here for a month for constantly being a troll and hopefully when the month is up, you might have forgotten about us.

bamayang · 29-11-2020 10:13pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

CPO of Clock Tower section of South quays.

https://twitter.com/MulliganEddie/status/1332601869861052418?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1332601869861052418%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpublish.twitter.com%2F%3Fquery%3Dhttps3A2F2Ftwitter.com2FMulliganEddie2Fstatus2F1332601869861052418widget%3DTweet

Looks amazing. Would give you confidence that the people working on this have some real ambition and vision.

friendlyfun · 30-11-2020 6:32am

Aquos76 wrote: »

Ok, my patience are gone with you now, I’ve no idea why you even post in the Waterford forum, it just seems that you are only posting to get a reaction, well dunno something you just have, you can take a holiday from here now, I’m banning you from here for a month for constantly being a troll and hopefully when the month is up, you might have forgotten about us.

Hopefully he never posts here again!

Dexpat · 30-11-2020 9:03am

Aquos76 wrote: »

Ok, my patience are gone with you now, I’ve no idea why you even post in the Waterford forum, it just seems that you are only posting to get a reaction, well dunno something you just have, you can take a holiday from here now, I’m banning you from here for a month for constantly being a troll and hopefully when the month is up, you might have forgotten about us.

Wow that was a popular decision!

Great to see the project moving on. The council are really playing their part. They get enough stick here and elsehere. Credit where it is due.

Deiseen · 30-11-2020 10:27am

Aquos76 wrote: »

Ok, my patience are gone with you now, I’ve no idea why you even post in the Waterford forum, it just seems that you are only posting to get a reaction, well dunno something you just have, you can take a holiday from here now, I’m banning you from here for a month for constantly being a troll and hopefully when the month is up, you might have forgotten about us.

Never seen a post liked so much! Great decision, long time coming!

hardybuck · 30-11-2020 10:54am

spaceCreated wrote: »

The designs look amazing, we've needed to remove those car parks for years, hopefully its the start of a process and we can start using multi story car parks like every other city in the world rather than ruining one of the best thing about Waterford.

I think Waterford would be starting the process of removing access to cars, which is what other cities are doing.

spaceCreated · 30-11-2020 7:04pm

hardybuck wrote: »

I think Waterford would be starting the process of removing access to cars, which is what other cities are doing.

I'm not really sure I understand the whole move for this to happen exactly especially in Ireland where plenty of bus stops are more than an hours walk away. Even Bus Eireann don't run a bus to Cork after 8 IIRC. I think Irish people love their houses and love their cars more than on the continent... cultural, weather and no other option being key reasons.

Wanderer78 · 01-12-2020 8:08am

spaceCreated wrote:

I'm not really sure I understand the whole move for this to happen exactly especially in Ireland where plenty of bus stops are more than an hours walk away. Even Bus Eireann don't run a bus to Cork after 8 IIRC. I think Irish people love their houses and love their cars more than on the continent... cultural, weather and no other option being key reasons.

Public transport has always been neglected, so now we all drive, you d need major investment to truly move us out of our cars, I'm not convinced yet that that 'll happen

fricatus · 01-12-2020 8:59am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Public transport has always been neglected, so now we all drive, you d need major investment to truly move us out of our cars, I'm not convinced yet that that 'll happen

There was a pretty major investment in the Bus Éireann Waterford city services about 18 months ago. You can Google the details, but all the buses were replaced, frequency increased, Leap card introduced, Sunday service brought in, etc. Despite having cars, we got Leap cards ourselves and started using the bus for trips into town just before the pandemic struck. Once it’s over, we’ll be doing so again.

Wanderer78 · 01-12-2020 9:49am

fricatus wrote: »

There was a pretty major investment in the Bus Éireann Waterford city services about 18 months ago. You can Google the details, but all the buses were replaced, frequency increased, Leap card introduced, Sunday service brought in, etc. Despite having cars, we got Leap cards ourselves and started using the bus for trips into town just before the pandemic struck. Once it’s over, we’ll be doing so again.

i appreciate the upgrades, but we havent been truly promoting and investing in public transport in ireland, in decades, if at all, we re continually developing and building with very little forward thinking, regarding public transport, this forces us to default to the car. if you live some what rurally, you may forget about it, its either have a car or you dont survive. rural links have been decimated, particularly over the last few years, and its looking very unlikely many links will be returning, which again leaves the only solution, the private car

Harry Palmr · 01-12-2020 8:22pm

https://waterford-news.ie/2020/12/01/coming-months-crucial-for-north-quays/

and

Separately, Cllr Jason Murphy (FF) asked if the integrated transport hub was going to be future proofed as a multi-platform railway station that could provide for expansion. He also sought clarification on what was going to happen with Plunkett Station once the new hub is built.

In response, Mr Walsh said there would be two platforms at the integrated transport hub, which will be longer than that available at the existing station. What is done with the current station was a matter for Irish Rail, he said.

As the green light has been given for the North Quays, Cllr Pat Nugent (FG) asked if there was any movement on the Ard Ri Hotel.

Director of Services, Economic Development & Planning, Michael Quinn said the Council has had some discussions with the reported owner of the former hotel. “There are plans for its redevelopment, but obviously they can’t proceed until the legal issues are full resolved.”

from here which mentions crossing at Tower Hotel.
https://waterford-news.ie/2020/12/01/second-vehicular-bridge-across-river-suir-remains-a-viable-option/

smellyoldboot · 01-12-2020 11:36pm

fricatus wrote: »

There was a pretty major investment in the Bus Éireann Waterford city services about 18 months ago. You can Google the details, but all the buses were replaced, frequency increased, Leap card introduced, Sunday service brought in, etc. Despite having cars, we got Leap cards ourselves and started using the bus for trips into town just before the pandemic struck. Once it’s over, we’ll be doing so again.

Still ****e, always late and only operate specific and archaic routes ie; you can't link between a lot of suburbs and the Industrial Estate,WIT or Hospital without first entering the city centre and changing bus at least once. Think John's Park to Industrial Estate or Lisduggan to Ardkeen. Can't be done without at least one change and potentially 90 minutes journey time. Mental. They are almost a blueprint for how to run transport services so badly you actually force more people into cars.

The one thing I will give them is the newly hired drivers are streets ahead in terms of basic manners and professionalism from the grumpy entitled old sods that were there before.

Wanderer78 · 02-12-2020 8:33am

smellyoldboot wrote:

Still ****e, always late and only operate specific and archaic routes ie; you can't link between a lot of suburbs and the Industrial Estate,WIT or Hospital without first entering the city centre and changing bus at least once. Think John's Park to Industrial Estate or Lisduggan to Ardkeen. Can't be done without at least one change and potentially 90 minutes journey time. Mental. They are almost a blueprint for how to run transport services so badly you actually force more people into cars.

Yup, if they want people out of their cars, they're gonna have to pull something amazing outta the bag, nobody has a spare hour or two a day to be jumping from bus to bus, you d probably walk to your destination quicker

BBM77 · 02-12-2020 10:01am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Yup, if they want people out of their cars, they're gonna have to pull something amazing outta the bag, nobody has a spare hour or two a day to be jumping from bus to bus, you d probably walk to your destination quicker

Always thought there needs to be an orbital route around Waterford. All the routes are radial from the city centre. If you live out the Dunmore road area for example and work out the Cork road area or attending WIT, it takes forever to travel back and forth by bus so is not really an option as you say.

91wx763 · 02-12-2020 10:56am

smellyoldboot wrote: »

Still ****e, always late and only operate specific and archaic routes ie; you can't link between a lot of suburbs and the Industrial Estate,WIT or Hospital without first entering the city centre and changing bus at least once. Think John's Park to Industrial Estate or Lisduggan to Ardkeen. Can't be done without at least one change and potentially 90 minutes journey time. Mental. They are almost a blueprint for how to run transport services so badly you actually force more people into cars.

The one thing I will give them is the newly hired drivers are streets ahead in terms of basic manners and professionalism from the grumpy entitled old sods that were there before.

Points well made there indeed.

On the driver comment though there are still one or two needing the P45. One in particular on hospital route is going to get a bump on the nose one day for the way he berates the passengers for the slightest reason.

Finnbar01 · 07-12-2020 4:39pm

Dunmoreroader wrote: »

Reinforced? I understood the old wharfs and pillars were being removed and completely replaced, no?

Those old wharfs and pillars are donkey years old and are historical artifacts.

There's no way in the World am I going to stand by and watch our history and heritage been cast aside!

I'm immediately going to start a petition to prevent this from happening!

Who's with me?

Dunmoreroader · 07-12-2020 5:17pm

Finnbar01 wrote: »

Those old wharfs and pillars are donkey years old and are historical artifacts.

There's no way in the World am I going to stand by and watch our history and heritage been cast aside!

I'm immediately going to start a petition to prevent this from happening!

Who's with me?

Maybe you could collect them as they're being demolished and sell off chunks at a time like the Berlin Wall.

Wanderer78 · 07-12-2020 6:07pm

Finnbar01 wrote: »

Those old wharfs and pillars are donkey years old and are historical artifacts.

There's no way in the World am I going to stand by and watch our history and heritage been cast aside!

I'm immediately going to start a petition to prevent this from happening!

Who's with me?

i ve a couple of wetsuits if you wanna save them yourself, maybe you can chain yourself to them

Harry Palmr · 10-12-2020 11:07pm

North quays now officially owned by Falcon properties.

https://t.co/u7IXwmhAjD?amp=1

smellyoldboot · 10-12-2020 11:48pm

Finnbar01 wrote: »

Those old wharfs and pillars are donkey years old and are historical artifacts.

There's no way in the World am I going to stand by and watch our history and heritage been cast aside!

I'm immediately going to start a petition to prevent this from happening!

Who's with me?

Few appeals to go along with it. Might get a right oul run of a few years out of it.

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