Leo States Sinn Fein Want Nothing To Do With Whites or Males

jimgoose · 13-08-2020 12:24pm

joeguevara wrote: »

Is there a hatred or prejudice of women being stirred up because of his post? I havent seen it.

Oh, someone mentioned Queen Victoria almost in passing, so misogyny, sexism, white male privilege, blah blah fucking blah... :pac:

FrancieBrady · 13-08-2020 12:24pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

When they threatened to cut the baby out of a pregnant woman in Portmarnock there was no Covid-19 (https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/pregnant-woman-threatened-gang-up-13545298)

When they stabbed two young lads in Rush there was no Covid-19 (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/teen-boys-15-knifed-by-gang-of-youths-in-vicious-seaside-attacks-36188193.html)

When they attacked a 12 year old child in Skerries there was no Covid-19 (https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/girl-12-surrounded-gang-teenage-16571226)

When they attacked and tried to take a detectives gun in Lusk, there was no Covid-19. (https://www.thejournal.ie/violent-disorder-childrens-court-5120506-Jun2020/)

When they attacked an elderly man and his son in Balbriggan, there was no Covid-19, and SF again played it down as "youth gangs" rather than who it actually was. (https://www.independent.ie/regionals/fingalindependent/news/balbriggan-protest-over-youth-gangs-36377335.html)

'Who' was it?

weldoninhio · 13-08-2020 12:27pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

'Who' was it?

Gangs of African kids.

FrancieBrady · 13-08-2020 12:28pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

Gangs of African kids.

Youth gangs then.

Are they unique because they are 'African', is that your point?

Eric Cartman · 13-08-2020 12:31pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Youth gangs then.

Are they unique because they are 'African', is that your point?

No, but its the truth and a relevant data point, now if the example of gangs of mostly african kids causing problems was to keep being a reoccuring theme then perhaps there would be a problem We’d need to look at in that community.

suicide_circus · 13-08-2020 12:32pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Youth gangs then.

Are they unique because they are 'African', is that your point?

Youth gangs made up exclusively of the children of African immigrants are a relatively new phenomenon in Ireland.

Bishop of hope · 13-08-2020 12:34pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

Youth gangs made up exclusively of the children of African immigrants are a relatively new phenomenon in Ireland.

He could have added Chinese, unless you're in government.

weldoninhio · 13-08-2020 12:35pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Youth gangs then.

Are they unique because they are 'African', is that your point?

Yes, considering Africans make up such a tiny % of people in Ireland. I’ve never seen Polish gangs terrorising people, or Spanish or German.

markodaly · 13-08-2020 12:36pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

An inocuous exchange in the Dáil that happens most days of the week and Leo manages to have himself trending for all the wrong reasons.

They need to hide the man away like Kenny, Harris and Murphy were...he's toxic at this stage.

Says you.... but all recent pollings suggests he is the most popular politican in the country.

Toxic to the general Irish person he ain't, but he sure does seem to rub the SF Twitterati up the wrong way! :pac:

Leo at 76%
Mary Lou at 49%

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/poll

Pkiernan · 13-08-2020 12:38pm

He's right about SF wanting to shaft the middle class in favour of work shy layabouts.

FrancieBrady · 13-08-2020 12:40pm

markodaly wrote: »

Says you.... but all recent pollings suggests he is the most popular politican in the country.

Toxic to the general Irish person he ain't, but he sure does seem to rub the SF Twitterati up the wrong way! :pac:

Leo at 76%
Mary Lou at 49%

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/poll

:D:D

How'd he do when it mattered, in an election like?

Bonniedog · 13-08-2020 12:48pm

A local TD - not the SF runner in - specifically referred to "arson" as have other locals. And there were two houses burned. Were they both "electrical faults"?

This African gang stuff has been going on for years. Hundreds of people have protested about it and there is a local petition calling for action against the African gangs.

Fingal against Racism is run by the local reds attached to Daly and the Socialist Party. They have consistently lied about such matters.

weldoninhio · 13-08-2020 12:49pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

:D:D

How'd he do when it mattered, in an election like?

Much as I loath him. He’s currently Tánaiste and rotating Taoiseach. How did Marylou do?

suicide_circus · 13-08-2020 12:51pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

:D:D

How'd he do when it mattered, in an election like?

He's keeping the Tainiste's seat warm for Mary Lou

weldoninhio · 13-08-2020 12:51pm

Bonniedog wrote: »

A local TD - not the SF runner in - specifically referred to "arson" as have other locals. And there were two houses burned. Were they both "electrical faults"?

This African gang stuff has been going on for years. Hundreds of people have protested about it and there is a local petition calling for action against the African gangs.

Fingal against Racism is run by the local reds attached to Daly and the Socialist Party. They have consistently lied about such matters.

I’d also query why there were so many Garda cars and vans sent to an “electrical” fire as per the videos of the fire.

jimgoose · 13-08-2020 12:52pm

markodaly wrote: »

Says you.... but all recent pollings suggests he is the most popular politican in the country.

Toxic to the general Irish person he ain't, but he sure does seem to rub the SF Twitterati up the wrong way! :pac:

Leo at 76%
Mary Lou at 49%

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/poll

Oh he's fairly toxic to the Redzer tattooed boot-boy contingent right enough, but FG don't give a monkey's about them. :pac:

tritium · 13-08-2020 12:53pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Youth gangs then.

Are they unique because they are 'African', is that your point?

FrancieBrady wrote: »

An inocuous exchange in the Dáil that happens most days of the week and Leo manages to have himself trending for all the wrong reasons.

They need to hide the man away like Kenny, Harris and Murphy were...he's toxic at this stage.

I’m genuinely confused here As to your perspective . Politician singles out white males a s a group and you see it as an innocuous every day exchange. Poster singles out African youths and you call them out on it. Is identity politics ok or not ok in your view of things, since both of these are Arguably examples of that?

(Genuine question, I don’t actually know the details around the events in Balbriggan )

Dyr · 13-08-2020 12:53pm

Sinn Fein: so cringe inducingly woke that even Leo ****s on them for it.

13-08-2020 12:54pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

(2 houses burnt out)

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Maybe. The one where the house was set on fire?

The owner of the house has come out and said that wasn't gangs of any kind, let alone 'African gangs'. It was a home accident.

I'm not making any comment on the state of everything Balbriggan has going on, but that fire that was doing the rounds on Whatsapp is being used by people to push a narrative, and others should be aware of that. Sure one of the pics was at night-time, despite it still being bright out when I received them.

jimgoose · 13-08-2020 12:58pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

Youth gangs made up exclusively of the children of African immigrants are a relatively new phenomenon in Ireland.

Some of them seem to be trying to emulate the black gangs in parts of England, particularly London with all this "bruv" crap, carrying blades, etc.

is_that_so · 13-08-2020 1:10pm

McMurphy wrote: »

Leo's obviously slipped his handlers, unscripted - the man clearly shouldn't be let next to near anything that can be aired publicly.

After you read the above, and before attempting smartarsery.....

Does anyone need the stats, ref the last election?

He doesn't need handlers, not for another 2 years, and it's him taking the liberty to revive the old Leo routines. There's nobody on that side of the house who'd scold him for taking a pop at SF.

markodaly · 13-08-2020 1:13pm

tritium wrote: »

I’m genuinely confused here As to your perspective . Politician singles out white males a s a group and you see it as an innocuous every day exchange. Poster singles out African youths and you call them out on it. Is identity politics ok or not ok in your view of things, since both of these are Arguably examples of that?

(Genuine question, I don’t actually know the details around the events in Balbriggan )

Welcome to the way Francie argues a point.

markodaly · 13-08-2020 1:18pm

Pkiernan wrote: »

He's right about SF wanting to shaft the middle class in favour of work shy layabouts.

It is clear, that Leo is trying to shift FG a bit more to the right and cement that demographic as their own, seeing as the left is so crowded already.
SF can fight it out with the SD's, Labour, PBP, Solidarity, perhaps the Greens, and FF, while FG can claim a good chunk of middle Ireland as their own.

Zebra3 · 13-08-2020 1:21pm

MrMusician18 wrote: »

There are a few contested accounts but women weren't wholesale abducted to be sent to the laundries. They were largely sent there by their parents or committed by the state in lieu of other punishments among many other reasons.

There was lots wrong about the laundries but you shouldn't rewrite history to suit your narrative.

Torture inflicted on inmates.

https://www.thejournal.ie/magdalene-survivor-nuns-story-4056376-Jun2018/

Mass escape from one of the gulags.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/mass-escape-using-ladder-among-incidents-at-galway-magdalene-laundry-1.3687372

FFFG/Labour supported this terrorism.

But I guess that doesn't suit your narrative.

weldoninhio · 13-08-2020 1:31pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The owner of the house has come out and said that wasn't gangs of any kind, let alone 'African gangs'. It was a home accident.

I'm not making any comment on the state of everything Balbriggan has going on, but that fire that was doing the rounds on Whatsapp is being used by people to push a narrative, and others should be aware of that. Sure one of the pics was at night-time, despite it still being bright out when I received them.

Have you a link to an interview/statement from the home owner? There was an electrical fire in a house in my estate on Saturday night. Strangely there wasn't a huge Garda presence. No riot vans etc.

no.8 · 13-08-2020 1:32pm

suicide_circus wrote:

He's keeping the Tainiste's seat warm for Mary Lou

Sarcasm or delusion

Eric Cartman · 13-08-2020 1:32pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The owner of the house has come out and said that wasn't gangs of any kind, let alone 'African gangs'. It was a home accident.

I'm not making any comment on the state of everything Balbriggan has going on, but that fire that was doing the rounds on Whatsapp is being used by people to push a narrative, and others should be aware of that. Sure one of the pics was at night-time, despite it still being bright out when I received them.

No , fingal against racism speaking on behalf of the owner have come out.

Kerosene tanks dont go on fire like they described , its a lie

Bonniedog · 13-08-2020 1:32pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The owner of the house has come out and said that wasn't gangs of any kind, let alone 'African gangs'. It was a home accident.

.

The only people claiming it was an accident is this "anti racism" group.

There are no references to it, or indeed to any statement from the house owner, anywhere other than their twitter feed, and some site I never heard of before which posted it.

Videos make it clear that violence preceded and followed the incident which some claim was started by a petrol bomb. Local talk is that it is part of feud between African drug dealers.

Another car was burned out on Tuesday evening.

Overheated battery maybe ???

FrancieBrady · 13-08-2020 1:36pm

tritium wrote: »

I’m genuinely confused here As to your perspective . Politician singles out white males a s a group and you see it as an innocuous every day exchange. Poster singles out African youths and you call them out on it. Is identity politics ok or not ok in your view of things, since both of these are Arguably examples of that?

(Genuine question, I don’t actually know the details around the events in Balbriggan )

My comment on Leo is more to do with Leo wading into something in his size 14's rather than the politics of it.

My comment on the 'youths' was to highlight or ask why the fact they were African was significant. Youth misbehaviour - a problem since the world began really, given the right circumstances.

Tony EH · 13-08-2020 1:38pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I don't get Varadkar at all. Before he was taoiseach he was saying all of the right things, about welfare fraud, about workers etc. Then when he got into the big seat he became mad Liberal, insufferably so, bumping welfare at every opportunity, gender quotas and punishing the folks that get up early in the morning.

Banging on about welfare fraud is a small time, mickey mouse, issue that really only appeals to insufferable ****.

Leo had to broaden his "message", so he became all things to everyone.

But, shock horror, he turned out to be disingenuous on every issue he's opened his mouth on, which is why a huge amount of the voting public no longer have any time for him.

joeguevara · 13-08-2020 1:41pm

Blaaz_ wrote: »

Pretty dumb comment from varadkar.....id have taught with a relative battering shinners got over the shoes nonsense, he just let it play out

Instead he stuck the new e700 boot in,and has found himself on receiving end of critism(quite rightly,we dont need race based politics here)

Fashion boots.

ThunbergsAreGo · 13-08-2020 1:44pm

markodaly wrote: »

It is clear, that Leo is trying to shift FG a bit more to the right and cement that demographic as their own, seeing as the left is so crowded already.
SF can fight it out with the SD's, Labour, PBP, Solidarity, perhaps the Greens, and FF, while FG can claim a good chunk of middle Ireland as their own.

Its a good move long term, but hard to forget his last term in government and his need to appeal to the woke social media brigade.

He can't have it every way

Danzy · 13-08-2020 1:48pm

Bowie wrote: »

The civil service was 'very white', SF don't like white people. What a ****ing idiot.
He's incapable of adult debate.
He's saying we need more diversity then lying to rouse whitey.
He made a tit of himself once again.

He is trolling a bit here, no doubt.

For the Lols as Mario Rosenstock.

Modern SF has a lot of very sanctimonious activists and pointing out that is going to get a traction with many.

James Brown · 13-08-2020 1:52pm

The Unbearables wrote: »

Must be the white man's fault for oppressing them.

suicide_circus wrote: »

White lives dont matter

Quality. Leo's MAGA tweet works

joeguevara wrote: »

It was the SF Senator talking rubbish that is the issue. Id see more of questioning of SF supporters on this one rather than FG supporters. She basiscally stated that white males have no clue what is really happening in the world.

She made an arse of herself. She was trying to say a white, male , middle class man doesn't know what it's like to be from a minority. She has a point IMO. She presented it very poorly.
Ward shut her down very well.

Then Leo tried to tweet a funny and made a tit of himself. One week SF are racist. The next week they don't like white males. This from the man said the civil service was 'very white'. He's an idiot.

Bonniedog · 13-08-2020 1:56pm

How would Boylan know what Travellers and black people and so on think or feel?

Is she like Mother Teresa of the oppressed or something?

Your woman Joyce I do have time for as know some of her family.

She earned what she has against considerable internal and external pressures on traveller women, so fair play.

Don't share her politics, of course!

suicide_circus · 13-08-2020 1:57pm

Bowie wrote: »

Quality. Leo's MAGA tweet works

I was just quoting Professor Priyamvada Gopal of Cambridge University

joeguevara · 13-08-2020 2:00pm

Bowie wrote: »

Quality. Leo's MAGA tweet works

She made an arse of herself. She was trying to say a white, male , middle class man doesn't know what it's like to be from a minority. She has a point IMO. She presented it very poorly.
Ward shut her down very well.

Then Leo tried to tweet a funny and made a tit of himself. One week SF are racist. The next week they don't like white males. This from the man said the civil service was 'very white'. He's an idiot.

I agree with you. with regards to her making an ar53 of herself and Leo making a t1t of himself. Politicians should protect minorities and assist them in any way that I can but in this instance it was irrelevant and actually downright distasteful.

TheValeyard · 13-08-2020 2:04pm

Zebra3 wrote: »

You sure?

They voted FFFG/Lab for years while those parties allowed the terrorists in the RC church to abduct women and kept them enslaved in gulags.

Suppose your right, the militant wing of Sinn Féin would just abduct women, shoot them in the back of the head and Bury them in an unmarked grave on some beach.

Danzy · 13-08-2020 2:09pm

Bonniedog wrote: »

How would Boylan know what Travellers and black people and so on think or feel?

Is she like Mother Teresa of the oppressed or something?

Your woman Joyce I do have time for as know some of her family.

She earned what she has against considerable internal and external pressures on traveller women, so fair play.

Don't share her politics, of course!

Lynn is nice but the saviour complex is big.

13-08-2020 2:12pm

The Unbearables wrote: »

SF make no mistake about it are a serious threat to FFG the next election. Young and middle aged Irish virtue signalers and newly arrived eh engineers and eh brain surgeons from the 3rd world are voting for them in droves already and only for a carefully organised pincer movement from FFG this time around they'd be in power right now.

Tell me more about all these third world arrivals that are registered to vote

dundalkfc10 · 13-08-2020 2:20pm

The junkies and dealers roaming, stealing fighting on the streets of the Capital and my own town here in Dundalk (same in Drogheda) are not African kids

Dosnt matter what race they are, scum are scum

The Racists here are just as bad

suicide_circus · 13-08-2020 2:33pm

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

The Racists here are just as bad

Are they though? Racism = bad, obviously. But is it just as bad as beating, stabbing, robbing etc. One for the philosophers.

Bonniedog · 13-08-2020 2:51pm

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

The junkies and dealers roaming, stealing fighting on the streets of the Capital and my own town here in Dundalk (same in Drogheda) are not African kids

Dosnt matter what race they are, scum are scum

The Racists here are just as bad

ALL is the missing word.

And stop referring to them as "kids."

Nothing kiddish about arson, drug dealing, rape, mugging and so on.

As said many times; of course we have our own scum. That is no rationale for importing other peoples' scum.

If you had rats in your house, would you dump a box of cockraoches in as well?

MrMusician18 · 13-08-2020 3:29pm

Zebra3 wrote: »

Torture inflicted on inmates.

https://www.thejournal.ie/magdalene-survivor-nuns-story-4056376-Jun2018/

Mass escape from one of the gulags.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/mass-escape-using-ladder-among-incidents-at-galway-magdalene-laundry-1.3687372

FFFG/Labour supported this terrorism.

But I guess that doesn't suit your narrative.

You said they were abducted. I said that apart from a few contested accounts for the vast majority of women in them this wasn't the case. The vast majority of women in there were sent there by their parents or committed by the state as an alternative punishment to prison among other reasons. I never excused what went on there so wind your neck in.

You need to be accurate with the language you use.

utyh2ikcq9z76b · 13-08-2020 3:45pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

Careful now.

If one demographic is expected to accept their collective failures then other demographics will have to do the same.
Furthermore, if i'm guilty by association, then I can be proud by association ie: proud of the collective achievements of "white western males" and as we know, those achievements are many.

See where i'm going with this?

I think so, like a White Pride thing?

James Brown · 13-08-2020 3:48pm

Bonniedog wrote: »

ALL is the missing word.

And stop referring to them as "kids."

Nothing kiddish about arson, drug dealing, rape, mugging and so on.

As said many times; of course we have our own scum. That is no rationale for importing other peoples' scum.

If you had rats in your house, would you dump a box of cockraoches in as well?

Do we not vet everyone coming into Ireland the same way? If someone flies in from Uganda, Poland or Australia are they not subject to the same security?
We shouldn't be importing scum.

nthclare · 13-08-2020 3:50pm

It's Trendy now to denounce cancel culture and lefty's so Leo is on the right track....

utyh2ikcq9z76b · 13-08-2020 3:51pm

Bowie wrote: »

Do we not vet everyone coming into Ireland the same way? If someone flies in from Uganda, Poland or Australia are they not subject to the same security?
We shouldn't be importing scum.

I think most of these are children of people who arrived, you can't vet for future unborn children

James Brown · 13-08-2020 3:57pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

Careful now.

If one demographic is expected to accept their collective failures then other demographics will have to do the same.
Furthermore, if i'm guilty by association, then I can be proud by association ie: proud of the collective achievements of "white western males" and as we know, those achievements are many.

See where i'm going with this?

Not when one demographic holds the lion's share of the power and work's to keep that power.

I think this issue slipped past you. The majority set more systems in place than the minority. There was a time women had to protest for a vote, as did black people. Who's fault was that, equally white men, women, blacks?
It was weighted too much one way, the white way for too long. Blacks aren't trying to take over they are looking to be treated like white people. Not above or better than.
As the saying goes, '‘When You’re Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression’. People are fighting to be heard. They have been treated poorly and are speaking up about it.
A TV company would say, 'Sorry we already have a black presenter'. That would never happen to a white person. Just an example off the top of my head.

As for achievments, I didn't know this until recently: "The light bulb itself was invented by Thomas Edison, but the innovation used to create longer-lasting light bulbs with a carbon filament came from African-American inventor Lewis Latimer". Written out. See where I'm going with this?

Good man Leo opening the debate for the down trodden :rolleyes:

Eric Cartman · 13-08-2020 3:59pm

Jewel Ashy Bolt wrote: »

I think most of these are children of people who arrived, you can't vet for future unborn children

actually you can. Only allow in higher earning professionals and chances are their children will have discipline and be taught the value of morals and a good education. Obviously not everything set in stone but in general much better outcomes.

Leo States Sinn Fein Want Nothing To Do With Whites or Males

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