Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

shinzon · 14-08-2020 5:49pm

No deaths and 67 cases

Shin

Always_Running · 14-08-2020 5:49pm

Cases 67 no deaths.

froog · 14-08-2020 5:50pm

not great, not terrible.

ACitizenErased · 14-08-2020 5:51pm

Of the cases notified today:

35 are men and 32 are women
70% are under 45 years of age
38 are confirmed to be associated with outbreaks or are close contacts of a confirmed case
16 cases have been identified as community transmission
18 are in Dublin, 17 in Kildare, 9 in Clare, 5 in Limerick, and the rest of the 18 cases are in Carlow, Cork, Donegal, Laois, Longford, Offaly, Tipperary, Wexford, Wicklow

Boggles · 14-08-2020 5:52pm

38 are confirmed to be associated with outbreaks or are close contacts of a confirmed case

16 cases have been identified as community transmission

18 are in Dublin, 17 in Kildare, 9 in Clare, 5 in Limerick, and the rest of the 18 cases are in Carlow, Cork, Donegal, Laois, Longford, Offaly, Tipperary, Wexford, Wicklow

We have seen cases rising all across the country this week. We must continue to do all we can to avoid a return to where we were in March and April

Harry Palmr · 14-08-2020 5:52pm

About par for the course in late summer though the bump in community spread is potentially concerning.

owlbethere · 14-08-2020 5:52pm

techdiver wrote: »

Can someone answer a question for me.

So we get 138 positive swabs today. Allowing for retests why are number of cases held back and not announced the same day? If they know the positive swabs why don't they announce that daily? Why hold them back?

I'm not saying it happens all the time, but it does happen.

138 of positive swabs today. Why is it reported that we have 67 new cases and not 138 new cases?

Lyle · 14-08-2020 5:52pm

After we just got the backlog in positive tests cleared, now there's 71 up in the air again. :rolleyes:

ACitizenErased · 14-08-2020 5:53pm

Carlow is the county to watch for. 6 more cases yesterday and more today.

Turtwig · 14-08-2020 5:54pm

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Of the cases notified today:

35 are men and 32 are women
70% are under 45 years of age
38 are confirmed to be associated with outbreaks or are close contacts of a confirmed case
16 cases have been identified as community transmission
18 are in Dublin, 17 in Kildare, 9 in Clare, 5 in Limerick, and the rest of the 18 cases are in Carlow, Cork, Donegal, Laois, Longford, Offaly, Tipperary, Wexford, Wicklow

Open to correction here: has community transmission as a portion of confirmed cases been slowly increasing?

wadacrack · 14-08-2020 5:54pm

We have seen cases rising all across the country this week. We must continue to do all we can to avoid a return to where we were in March and April.

"We have also seen an increase in the average number of contacts for confirmed cases up to 6. It is crucial to keep your social contacts low to limit the spread of this disease.

"We all have a responsibility to stop this. Social distancing applies to all age groups - wherever you are this weekend, keep your distance."

Gruffalux · 14-08-2020 5:54pm

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Carlow is the county to watch for. 6 more cases yesterday and more today.

The missing C in LOKDown...

Always_Running · 14-08-2020 5:55pm

owlbethere wrote: »

138 of positive swabs today. Why is it reported that we have 67 new cases and not 138 new cases?

All positive tests aren't cases because some get tested twice but I won't be surprised if we get close to 100 cases tomorrow.

s1ippy · 14-08-2020 5:55pm

They'll probably throw the spare cases in at the weekend to keep us on our toes.

The 16 community transmission is a balls.

ACitizenErased · 14-08-2020 5:56pm

Turtwig wrote: »

Open to correction here: has community transmission been slowly increasing?

Theres been a marginal increase yes. The number is useless though unless they tell us where they are. Is it 16 cases with one per county or is it 15 in one county and 1 in another etc.

Oranage2 · 14-08-2020 5:56pm

Gruffalox wrote: »

The missing C in LOKDown...

CLOKdown?

Atlantic Dawn · 14-08-2020 5:57pm

Oranage2 wrote: »

CLOKdown?

LOCKdown.

Boggles · 14-08-2020 5:57pm

We have also seen an increase in the average number of contacts for confirmed cases up to 6. It is crucial to keep your social contacts low to limit the spread of this disease.

That's pretty high.

ACitizenErased · 14-08-2020 5:58pm

Carlow is very very close to lockdown i think

Coybig_ · 14-08-2020 5:58pm

Seems like a lot of the cases these days are with younger people. And we are having virtually no deaths, virtually no hospitalisations and virtually nobody in ICU.

Hmmm...

How about telling the vulnerable to stay at home, encourage people to take extra precaution with them, but open up everything with proper social distancing etc.

It's very clear that this virus is fatal to a very specific group of people (elderly people with preexisting conditions) and we cant keep the country closed for them indefinitely, it's time for them now to do their bit and stay home and stay safe, while others get on with their lives.

Fearmongering would make you sick tbh.

Harry Palmr · 14-08-2020 5:59pm

A mushroom plant has been closed in west Tipp

Leftwaffe · 14-08-2020 6:01pm

Am I right in saying that there's barely anyone dying anymore from this and hospitalizations have not went up at all in recent weeks/days?

Ohmeha · 14-08-2020 6:02pm

7 Day numbers slightly down but from tomorrow once the 174 from Sat 8th are excluded then this 7 day number should hopefully approach low 60s range

Day Month Date Cases 7 Day
Saturday July 25th 24 17.14
Sunday July 26th 12 17.43
Monday July 27th 11 18.14
Tuesday July 28th 40 18.71
Wednesday July 29th 14 18.29
Thursday July 30th 85 29.43
Friday July 31st 38 32.00
Saturday August 1st 45 35.00
Sunday August 2nd 53 40.86
Monday August 3rd 46 45.86
Tuesday August 4th 45 46.57
Wednesday August 5th 50 51.71
Thursday August 6th 69 49.43
Friday August 7th 98 58.00
Saturday August 8th 174 76.43
Sunday August 9th 68 78.57
Monday August 10th 57 80.14
Tuesday August 11th 35 78.71
Wednesday August 12th 40 77.29
Thursday August 13th 92 80.57
Friday August 14th 67 76.14

Wolf359f · 14-08-2020 6:03pm

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Carlow is very very close to lockdown i think

Roughly 72 cases per 100k in the last 14 days.
Obviously it's not a single metric they use, but alarming none the less.

road_high · 14-08-2020 6:04pm

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Carlow is very very close to lockdown i think

Anyone got the county by county figures?
Carlow be easy to walk over- atrocious political representation and ignored by central government

Renjit · 14-08-2020 6:04pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

A mushroom plant has been closed in west Tipp

Just in time for the deliveries of magic shrooms

Harry Palmr · 14-08-2020 6:05pm

Redordeadqwwer wrote: »

Am I right in saying that there's barely anyone dying anymore from this and hospitalizations have not went up at all in recent weeks/days?

Here yes, mainly down to the relatively young age of the cohort who are most likely to be infected.

road_high · 14-08-2020 6:06pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Here yes, mainly down to the relatively young age of the cohort who are most likely to be infected.

Do we know that’s not the only reason? Older people are still getting it- how are they faring I wonder?

seanb85 · 14-08-2020 6:07pm

Coybig_ wrote: »

Seems like a lot of the cases these days are with younger people. And we are having virtually no deaths, virtually no hospitalisations and virtually nobody in ICU.

Hmmm...

How about telling the vulnerable to stay at home, encourage people to take extra precaution with them, but open up everything with proper social distancing etc.

It's very clear that this virus is fatal to a very specific group of people (elderly people with preexisting conditions) and we cant keep the country closed for them indefinitely, it's time for them now to do their bit and stay home and stay safe, while others get on with their lives.

Fearmongering would make you sick tbh.

Do you tell every vulnerable person to stay at home? Every immunosuppressed person? Every person with diabetes or high blood pressure? Everybody over 50 (Hospitalisations spike after this age)? Everybody with or recovering from cancer? And all the people that come into contact with them? Healthcare workers, nursing home staff, all the people they live with?

Oranage2 · 14-08-2020 6:08pm

Redordeadqwwer wrote: »

Am I right in saying that there's barely anyone dying anymore from this and hospitalizations have not went up at all in recent weeks/days?

Though we don't know the long term effects yet, lots of reports saying there are very severe after affects

Leftwaffe · 14-08-2020 6:08pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Here yes, mainly down to the relatively young age of the cohort who are most likely to be infected.

Have hospitizations went up even slightly?

It's good news, the plan was to stop the overwhelming of hospitals and protect the elderly. We're doing great if that's the case.

road_high · 14-08-2020 6:09pm

seanb85 wrote: »

Do you tell every vulnerable person to stay at home? Every immunosuppressed person? Every person with diabetes or high blood pressure? Everybody over 50 (Hospitalisations spike after this age)? Everybody with or recovering from cancer? And all the people that come into contact with them? Healthcare workers, nursing home staff, all the people they live with?

Yes you do. I think as this goes on and on that will be the only way. It’s utterly ridiculous leaving able bodied fit young people at home doing nothing when they can be out learning, working and contributing to the nation.
Otherwise we’re headed for a nation of do nothing cripples

mountgomery burns · 14-08-2020 6:12pm

Boggles wrote: »

Hospitalization rate overall is 12.6%

The rate on roughly the 800 cases over the past 14 days has been 3.2%.

If anything considering we are probably only missing 1 case for every one we find and the age demographic of cases, the hospitalization rate is actually quite high.

If we were only finding 1 in 8 cases back in March / April. Scaled up that would give us a rate of 25%.

An over abundance of caution given the capacity is there would explain probably explain that given the shortness of the current hospital stays.

What does that 25% refer to?

Coybig_ · 14-08-2020 6:12pm

seanb85 wrote: »

Do you tell every vulnerable person to stay at home? Every immunosuppressed person? Every person with diabetes or high blood pressure? Everybody over 50 (Hospitalisations spike after this age)? Everybody with or recovering from cancer? And all the people that come into contact with them? Healthcare workers, nursing home staff, all the people they live with?

The alternative is businesses up and down the country being shut and the economy being driven into the ground, creating a recession that will plague the young generation for years and decades to come.

You can die from anything these days as long as its not covid! All the people without a livelihood, all the people with severely worsening mental health, all the people not getting seen in hospitals because of covid. Fcuk them right? Let's not open up like the rest of Europe, which we are a part of. Let's kill the economy and peoples mental health, let's fearmonger at every possible opportunity, lets create panic when we dont have to.

:rolleyes:

Oranage2 · 14-08-2020 6:15pm

Coybig_ wrote: »

The alternative is businesses up and down the country being shut and the economy being driven into the ground, creating a recession that will plague the young generation for years and decades to come.

You can die from anything these days as long as its not covid! All the people without a livelihood, all the people with severely worsening mental health, all the people not getting seen in hospitals because of covid. Fcuk them right? Let's not open up like the rest of Europe, which we are a part of. Let's kill the economy and peoples mental health, let's fearmonger at every possible opportunity, lets create panic when we dont have to.

:rolleyes:

The country is basically opened up except for alcohol only pubs and discos.

shinzon · 14-08-2020 6:15pm

road_high wrote: »

Yes you do. I think as this goes on and on that will be the only way. It’s utterly ridiculous leaving able bodied fit young people at home doing nothing when they can be out learning, working and contributing to the nation.
Otherwise we’re headed for a nation of do nothing cripples

Easy to forget one of these days all of you here telling people to lock themselves away so the young can get on with whatever they want will also get old, just remember what you said on boards.ie on 14/8/2020 and see how you like it when your the one been told to lock yourselves away.

Absolute ageist bollocks

Shin

Atlantic Dawn · 14-08-2020 6:17pm

Oranage2 wrote: »

The country is basically opened up except for alcohol only pubs and discos.

Not by a long shot, public transport is still limited to essential journeys only.

iamwhoiam · 14-08-2020 6:17pm

road_high wrote: »

Yes you do. I think as this goes on and on that will be the only way. It’s utterly ridiculous leaving able bodied fit young people at home doing nothing when they can be out learning, working and contributing to the nation.
Otherwise we’re headed for a nation of do nothing cripples

No thanks , I don’t want to have to stay at home while meat plants carry on a ****eshow and young people gather in crowds to drink . I don’t want to stay in my house while some young people have house parties and factories pay no attention to social distancing .
We have done everything asked of us and still only go shopping or to parks or beaches . If everyone else plays along fine but until they do I won’t appreciate having to pay the price for some doing just as they please

kingshankly · 14-08-2020 6:17pm

Oranage2 wrote: »

The country is basically opened up except for alcohol only pubs and discos.

Time to open the pubs and shut the off licences 😂

Wolf359f · 14-08-2020 6:18pm

Redordeadqwwer wrote: »

Am I right in saying that there's barely anyone dying anymore from this and hospitalizations have not went up at all in recent weeks/days?

Over the past 14 days, we've had 886 cases and 18 hospital admissions.
I had to double check, as it's extremely low.
But it has to be taken with some caution, as the majority of cases recently are in much younger people and in the meat plants there's between 40-60% asymptomatic cases.

The hospitals may be able to cope long term with the slow steady flow of new patients, but as community spread increases, the risk to older/at risk people gets higher.

Sparko · 14-08-2020 6:18pm

I know of someone who got a positive result yesterday evening, but the county is not listed in the breakdown. So presumably part of this potential backlog between the postive test number and the reported cases.

mloc123 · 14-08-2020 6:19pm

Oranage2 wrote: »

Though we don't know the long term effects yet, lots of reports saying there are very severe after affects

And lots are saying there are little to no long term affects

JP Liz V1 · 14-08-2020 6:20pm

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Carlow is very very close to lockdown i think

Very close borders with Laois

seanb85 · 14-08-2020 6:20pm

road_high wrote: »

Yes you do. I think as this goes on and on that will be the only way. It’s utterly ridiculous leaving able bodied fit young people at home doing nothing when they can be out learning, working and contributing to the nation.
Otherwise we’re headed for a nation of do nothing cripples

Ok so that's over a million people over 50. Then you have the those with high blood pressure, that's half the population over 45. Cancer patients would be about 100,000. Diabetes 200,000. Arthritis (commonly treated with immune suppression) 900,000.

The list goes on. Add in all those they live with and every healthcare worker and you will probably end up with about 2 million people.

Best of luck with that plan.

Harry Palmr · 14-08-2020 6:21pm

mloc123 wrote: »

And lots are saying there are little to no long term affects

If you overlook those who's heart and/or lungs have been aged by decades in weeks this is true!

Renjit · 14-08-2020 6:22pm

road_high wrote: »

Otherwise we’re headed for a nation of do nothing cripples

Wow.

seanb85 · 14-08-2020 6:23pm

Coybig_ wrote: »

The alternative is businesses up and down the country being shut and the economy being driven into the ground, creating a recession that will plague the young generation for years and decades to come.

You can die from anything these days as long as its not covid! All the people without a livelihood, all the people with severely worsening mental health, all the people not getting seen in hospitals because of covid. Fcuk them right? Let's not open up like the rest of Europe, which we are a part of. Let's kill the economy and peoples mental health, let's fearmonger at every possible opportunity, lets create panic when we dont have to.

:rolleyes:

What isn't open at the moment?

spookwoman · 14-08-2020 6:24pm

mloc123 wrote: »

And lots are saying there are little to no long term affects

Lots are also not medical experts.
Research has started looking into possible long term effects until we see the results there is nothing to prove there are or are not long term efftecs.

petes · 14-08-2020 6:24pm

road_high wrote: »

Yes you do. I think as this goes on and on that will be the only way. It’s utterly ridiculous leaving able bodied fit young people at home doing nothing when they can be out learning, working and contributing to the nation.
Otherwise we’re headed for a nation of do nothing cripples

So open up leave all these people at home, tell me, who is going to do their jobs with the economy opened?

You keep posting this drivel day in, day out and sometimes with a bit of hysteria thrown in with absolutely no clue as to how it can be done logistically.

Turtwig · 14-08-2020 6:25pm

Do people seriously think almost every government in the world intentionally wants to cripple their own economy? It's about balancing the risk of your entire health care system being overwhelmed, with keeping the output of your economy as high as possible. Once you have sufficient spread in the community the shielding of the vulnerable groups crumbles. We're all connected; the most invulnerable person to COVID still has a connection with someone who is highly vulnerable.

That said, risks to the virus shouldn't be quantified in absolute terms of death. Even cancer isn't counted this way. Disease morbidity, duration of treatment and resources required are much better metrics.

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