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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Gruffalox wrote: »
    The missing C in LOKDown...

    CLOKdown?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,300 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    CLOKdown?

    LOCKdown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,507 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    We have also seen an increase in the average number of contacts for confirmed cases up to 6. It is crucial to keep your social contacts low to limit the spread of this disease.

    That's pretty high.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Carlow is very very close to lockdown i think


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭Coybig_


    Seems like a lot of the cases these days are with younger people. And we are having virtually no deaths, virtually no hospitalisations and virtually nobody in ICU.

    Hmmm...

    How about telling the vulnerable to stay at home, encourage people to take extra precaution with them, but open up everything with proper social distancing etc.

    It's very clear that this virus is fatal to a very specific group of people (elderly people with preexisting conditions) and we cant keep the country closed for them indefinitely, it's time for them now to do their bit and stay home and stay safe, while others get on with their lives.

    Fearmongering would make you sick tbh.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    A mushroom plant has been closed in west Tipp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    Am I right in saying that there's barely anyone dying anymore from this and hospitalizations have not went up at all in recent weeks/days?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,180 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    7 Day numbers slightly down but from tomorrow once the 174 from Sat 8th are excluded then this 7 day number should hopefully approach low 60s range

    Day Month Date Cases 7 Day
    Saturday July 25th 24 17.14
    Sunday July 26th 12 17.43
    Monday July 27th 11 18.14
    Tuesday July 28th 40 18.71
    Wednesday July 29th 14 18.29
    Thursday July 30th 85 29.43
    Friday July 31st 38 32.00
    Saturday August 1st 45 35.00
    Sunday August 2nd 53 40.86
    Monday August 3rd 46 45.86
    Tuesday August 4th 45 46.57
    Wednesday August 5th 50 51.71
    Thursday August 6th 69 49.43
    Friday August 7th 98 58.00
    Saturday August 8th 174 76.43
    Sunday August 9th 68 78.57
    Monday August 10th 57 80.14
    Tuesday August 11th 35 78.71
    Wednesday August 12th 40 77.29
    Thursday August 13th 92 80.57
    Friday August 14th 67 76.14


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Carlow is very very close to lockdown i think

    Roughly 72 cases per 100k in the last 14 days.
    Obviously it's not a single metric they use, but alarming none the less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Carlow is very very close to lockdown i think

    Anyone got the county by county figures?
    Carlow be easy to walk over- atrocious political representation and ignored by central government


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    A mushroom plant has been closed in west Tipp

    Just in time for the deliveries of magic shrooms :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Am I right in saying that there's barely anyone dying anymore from this and hospitalizations have not went up at all in recent weeks/days?

    Here yes, mainly down to the relatively young age of the cohort who are most likely to be infected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Here yes, mainly down to the relatively young age of the cohort who are most likely to be infected.

    Do we know that’s not the only reason? Older people are still getting it- how are they faring I wonder?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭seanb85


    Coybig_ wrote: »
    Seems like a lot of the cases these days are with younger people. And we are having virtually no deaths, virtually no hospitalisations and virtually nobody in ICU.

    Hmmm...

    How about telling the vulnerable to stay at home, encourage people to take extra precaution with them, but open up everything with proper social distancing etc.

    It's very clear that this virus is fatal to a very specific group of people (elderly people with preexisting conditions) and we cant keep the country closed for them indefinitely, it's time for them now to do their bit and stay home and stay safe, while others get on with their lives.

    Fearmongering would make you sick tbh.

    Do you tell every vulnerable person to stay at home? Every immunosuppressed person? Every person with diabetes or high blood pressure? Everybody over 50 (Hospitalisations spike after this age)? Everybody with or recovering from cancer? And all the people that come into contact with them? Healthcare workers, nursing home staff, all the people they live with?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Am I right in saying that there's barely anyone dying anymore from this and hospitalizations have not went up at all in recent weeks/days?

    Though we don't know the long term effects yet, lots of reports saying there are very severe after affects


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    Here yes, mainly down to the relatively young age of the cohort who are most likely to be infected.

    Have hospitizations went up even slightly?

    It's good news, the plan was to stop the overwhelming of hospitals and protect the elderly. We're doing great if that's the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    seanb85 wrote: »
    Do you tell every vulnerable person to stay at home? Every immunosuppressed person? Every person with diabetes or high blood pressure? Everybody over 50 (Hospitalisations spike after this age)? Everybody with or recovering from cancer? And all the people that come into contact with them? Healthcare workers, nursing home staff, all the people they live with?

    Yes you do. I think as this goes on and on that will be the only way. It’s utterly ridiculous leaving able bodied fit young people at home doing nothing when they can be out learning, working and contributing to the nation.
    Otherwise we’re headed for a nation of do nothing cripples


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    Boggles wrote: »
    Hospitalization rate overall is 12.6%

    The rate on roughly the 800 cases over the past 14 days has been 3.2%.

    If anything considering we are probably only missing 1 case for every one we find and the age demographic of cases, the hospitalization rate is actually quite high.

    If we were only finding 1 in 8 cases back in March / April. Scaled up that would give us a rate of 25%.

    An over abundance of caution given the capacity is there would explain probably explain that given the shortness of the current hospital stays.

    What does that 25% refer to?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭Coybig_


    seanb85 wrote: »
    Do you tell every vulnerable person to stay at home? Every immunosuppressed person? Every person with diabetes or high blood pressure? Everybody over 50 (Hospitalisations spike after this age)? Everybody with or recovering from cancer? And all the people that come into contact with them? Healthcare workers, nursing home staff, all the people they live with?

    The alternative is businesses up and down the country being shut and the economy being driven into the ground, creating a recession that will plague the young generation for years and decades to come.

    You can die from anything these days as long as its not covid! All the people without a livelihood, all the people with severely worsening mental health, all the people not getting seen in hospitals because of covid. Fcuk them right? Let's not open up like the rest of Europe, which we are a part of. Let's kill the economy and peoples mental health, let's fearmonger at every possible opportunity, lets create panic when we dont have to.

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Coybig_ wrote: »
    The alternative is businesses up and down the country being shut and the economy being driven into the ground, creating a recession that will plague the young generation for years and decades to come.

    You can die from anything these days as long as its not covid! All the people without a livelihood, all the people with severely worsening mental health, all the people not getting seen in hospitals because of covid. Fcuk them right? Let's not open up like the rest of Europe, which we are a part of. Let's kill the economy and peoples mental health, let's fearmonger at every possible opportunity, lets create panic when we dont have to.

    :rolleyes:

    The country is basically opened up except for alcohol only pubs and discos.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    road_high wrote: »
    Yes you do. I think as this goes on and on that will be the only way. It’s utterly ridiculous leaving able bodied fit young people at home doing nothing when they can be out learning, working and contributing to the nation.
    Otherwise we’re headed for a nation of do nothing cripples

    Easy to forget one of these days all of you here telling people to lock themselves away so the young can get on with whatever they want will also get old, just remember what you said on boards.ie on 14/8/2020 and see how you like it when your the one been told to lock yourselves away.

    Absolute ageist bollocks

    Shin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,300 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    The country is basically opened up except for alcohol only pubs and discos.

    Not by a long shot, public transport is still limited to essential journeys only.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    road_high wrote: »
    Yes you do. I think as this goes on and on that will be the only way. It’s utterly ridiculous leaving able bodied fit young people at home doing nothing when they can be out learning, working and contributing to the nation.
    Otherwise we’re headed for a nation of do nothing cripples
    No thanks , I don’t want to have to stay at home while meat plants carry on a ****eshow and young people gather in crowds to drink . I don’t want to stay in my house while some young people have house parties and factories pay no attention to social distancing .
    We have done everything asked of us and still only go shopping or to parks or beaches . If everyone else plays along fine but until they do I won’t appreciate having to pay the price for some doing just as they please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    The country is basically opened up except for alcohol only pubs and discos.

    Time to open the pubs and shut the off licences 😂


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Am I right in saying that there's barely anyone dying anymore from this and hospitalizations have not went up at all in recent weeks/days?

    Over the past 14 days, we've had 886 cases and 18 hospital admissions.
    I had to double check, as it's extremely low.
    But it has to be taken with some caution, as the majority of cases recently are in much younger people and in the meat plants there's between 40-60% asymptomatic cases.

    The hospitals may be able to cope long term with the slow steady flow of new patients, but as community spread increases, the risk to older/at risk people gets higher.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭Sparko


    I know of someone who got a positive result yesterday evening, but the county is not listed in the breakdown. So presumably part of this potential backlog between the postive test number and the reported cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Though we don't know the long term effects yet, lots of reports saying there are very severe after affects

    And lots are saying there are little to no long term affects


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,194 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Carlow is very very close to lockdown i think

    Very close borders with Laois


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭seanb85


    road_high wrote: »
    Yes you do. I think as this goes on and on that will be the only way. It’s utterly ridiculous leaving able bodied fit young people at home doing nothing when they can be out learning, working and contributing to the nation.
    Otherwise we’re headed for a nation of do nothing cripples

    Ok so that's over a million people over 50. Then you have the those with high blood pressure, that's half the population over 45. Cancer patients would be about 100,000. Diabetes 200,000. Arthritis (commonly treated with immune suppression) 900,000.

    The list goes on. Add in all those they live with and every healthcare worker and you will probably end up with about 2 million people.

    Best of luck with that plan.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    mloc123 wrote: »
    And lots are saying there are little to no long term affects

    If you overlook those who's heart and/or lungs have been aged by decades in weeks this is true!


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