BDO Lake World Championship

Tarzann · 09-01-2019 2:51pm

sc86 wrote: »

gary robson is not a top sports man - hes a bang average player in the bdo who just there for the piss up
he wouldnt get near a tour card in q school
been on last means he was prob on it all day

I did say "so-called" top sportsman!

An expensive piss-up with a few grand up for grabs in a very winnable match for him.

His match also didn't start unnaturally late so pure stupidity all round from him.

Ronan|Raven · 09-01-2019 3:13pm

https://www.questod.co.uk/channel/quest for anyone wanting to stream it.

Bob Harris · 09-01-2019 3:27pm

Self professed best dart's player in Holland is out on his ear, beaten by another dutchman.

sc86 · 09-01-2019 4:19pm

Bob Harris wrote: »

Self professed best dart's player in Holland is out on his ear, beaten by another dutchman.

he didnt claim that did he?

sc86 · 09-01-2019 4:19pm

the girl playing trina at the minute is fairly hot !
never saw her before

beats watchin maria obrien

Bob Harris · 09-01-2019 4:22pm

sc86 wrote: »

he didnt claim that did he?

Chris Mason mentioned it the other night when he was playing Tony O'Shít.
Wesley has a lofty opinion of himself.

Bob Harris · 09-01-2019 4:25pm

sc86 wrote: »

the girl playing trina at the minute is fairly hot !
never saw her before

beats watchin maria obrien

let's hope for a few bounce outs!

sc86 · 09-01-2019 4:26pm

Bob Harris wrote: »

Chris Mason mentioned it the other night when he was playing Tony O'Shít.
Wesley has a lofty opinion of himself.

jesus christ

best dutch player in bdo is even push it:D

Rikand · 09-01-2019 4:27pm

Raging Karolina is gone :pac:

Dick phelan · 09-01-2019 4:30pm

Why is the darts split between men and women anyway, i mean i can't see any actual physical advantage for men in the game, so why not abolish the women's world Championship let them qualify on merit and if they can't do it tough luck, it's all about equality these days.

Bob Harris · 09-01-2019 4:33pm

Rikand wrote: »

Raging Karolina is gone :pac:

Not even an after match interview. Probably hasn't a word of English.

Ultimate Seduction · 09-01-2019 4:45pm

Warrens daughter was unbearable last year

Bob Harris · 09-01-2019 4:52pm

I'll never get why players apologise if they win a leg because the other has missed a shedload at double to finish. Tough shít!

s3rtvdbwfj81ch · 09-01-2019 5:35pm

Bob Harris wrote: »

I'll never get why players apologise if they win a leg because the other has missed a shedload at double to finish. Tough shít!

the difference between the Lakeside and the Ally Ally Pally Oi Oi Oi

Bob Harris · 09-01-2019 5:37pm

Apollo Great Cheeseburger wrote: »

the difference between the Lakeside and the Ally Ally Pally Oi Oi Oi

They do it in the PDC aplenty too. If you miss 9 darts at a double you don't deserve to win the leg.

Tarzann · 09-01-2019 5:39pm

Dick phelan wrote: »

Why is the darts split between men and women anyway, i mean i can't see any actual physical advantage for men in the game, so why not abolish the women's world Championship let them qualify on merit and if they can't do it tough luck, it's all about equality these days.

Chris Mason tweeted the following research paper a while back in response to this topic:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5313487/

Basically women are worse on average than men at throwing things, with all other factors (participation levels etc) being equal.

munster87 · 09-01-2019 8:35pm

Bob Harris wrote: »

They do it in the PDC aplenty too. If you miss 9 darts at a double you don't deserve to win the leg.

If you’re giving your opponent 9 darts at a double before you get to a finish it’s not great either!

munster87 · 09-01-2019 8:45pm

McGeeney hit a total of 35 in his first 7 darts of that leg?

sc86 · 09-01-2019 9:02pm

Hes world no 1
Jesus christ

Hes doing q school
Be lucky to get a card
Infact i cant see how he does

Rikand · 09-01-2019 9:55pm

sc86 wrote: »

Hes world no 1
Jesus christ

Hes doing q school
Be lucky to get a card
Infact i cant see how he does

Thats why I questioned the ranking system....

Ally Dick · 09-01-2019 11:05pm

I've been impressed with some of the outsiders that I have seen - Whitehead, Unterbuchner, Cameron and Baker....but when the big pressure comes on now, will they be able to cope?

Ultimate Seduction · 09-01-2019 11:12pm

Ally Dick wrote: »

I've been impressed with some of the outsiders that I have seen - Whitehead, Unterbuchner, Cameron and Baker....but when the big pressure comes on now, will they be able to cope?

Unterbuchner hardly an outsider? Hes been super consistent a few years now, must of been 3rd Fav pre tournament? He has proved he has balls plenty times.

Cameron is playing great but could see him capitulate under pressure.

sc86 · 09-01-2019 11:13pm

Unterbucner is 5th seed
Hardly outsider?
Very solid player
Had good grand slam also
Made 1/4 or semi in lakeside last year also

Bob Harris · 09-01-2019 11:20pm

sc86 wrote: »

Unterbucner is 5th seed
Hardly outsider?
Very solid player
Had good grand slam also
Made 1/4 or semi in lakeside last year also

I didn't think he was great in the first round but improved a lot today.

boomdocker · 09-01-2019 11:25pm

i'd fancy Unterbunchner to get to the final now , he'd give Durrant a game I reckon

millhouse · 09-01-2019 11:31pm

Might be stating the obvious but Unterbuchner hit the big shots today at crucial times. Warren was often waiting on a double and Unterbuchner would take out a 3 dart outshots. He did that on 4 or 5 occassions. His 4-0 win was actually much closer than it reads. He needs to score heavier as his finishing is good. If he can do that he's a contender. Lakeside semi finalist last year and Grand Slam 1/4 finalist this year against best of the Pdc boys. Was the best of the BDO players this year. Hes also won a couple of bdo events during the year . In the top half of the draw away from Durrant until the final. Has Whitehead and Waites to contend with in his half of the draw.

sc86 · 09-01-2019 11:31pm

He reminds me of james wade in a way
Hes not spectacular but nothing fazes him and he doesnt buckle and miss loads of doubles
He will punish mistakes
Poor first round but looked great today for bdo standards

Rikand · 10-01-2019 12:52am

sc86 wrote: »

He reminds me of james wade in a way
Hes not spectacular but nothing fazes him and he doesnt buckle and miss loads of doubles
He will punish mistakes
Poor first round but looked great today for bdo standards

He outwaded wade at the grand slam

DEFTLEFTHAND · 10-01-2019 5:49am

Dick phelan wrote: »

Why is the darts split between men and women anyway, i mean i can't see any actual physical advantage for men in the game, so why not abolish the women's world Championship let them qualify on merit and if they can't do it tough luck, it's all about equality these days.

Men on average possess superior hand eye coordination and spacial awarnesss kills to women.

It's why they dominate the likes of darts and snooker. They have the greater potential to become good players from the outset.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 10-01-2019 6:03am

Veenstra is super frustrating to watch, you can tell he's a decent player but he blows so hot and cold.

I fancy Waites to have a chance if his doubling improves. He's probably the most consistent scorer in the BDO.

Ultimate Seduction · 10-01-2019 6:24am

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Men on average possess superior hand eye coordination and spacial awarnesss kills to women.

It's why they dominate the likes of darts and snooker. They have the greater potential to become good players from the outset.

Is there any evidence or study's proving the superior hand eye coordination? I'd believe it though, probably a skill picked up from our hunter gatherer days.

Liamalone · 10-01-2019 6:57am

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Is there any evidence or study's proving the superior hand eye coordination? I'd believe it though, probably a skill picked up from our hunter gatherer days.

Yes, men consistently have to aim for the wee hole and that translates to other activities lol

peteeeed · 10-01-2019 9:17am

has Waites ever gone through q school? he looks like he's got the game and against better opposition could improve

boomdocker · 10-01-2019 9:34am

peteeeed wrote: »

has Waites ever gone through q school? he looks like he's got the game and against better opposition could improve

apparently not, but he has said he is going this year. Has a solid game and And is a 2 time BDO champ after all - you'd think if he got through q school and went at it full time he'd be well capable

Plus he's the only BDO player to win the Grand Slam, was runner up as well - so he's got game - was a few years ago, but still..

Also, I think I read somewhere that he's working a 9-5 job, you'd imagine he'd have scope for improvement if he went full time

Green_Martian · 10-01-2019 9:46am

Is it just me or is some of the camera work shocking??

They seem to be limited to a few cameras on the dartboard, fore example in one game there was a checkout of 156, 2 treble 20's were hit but the angle the camera was at you didn't know if the double 18 was hit until it came to the wide angle view.

Also they don't seem to have a straight on view of the treble 20, the angle seems to be low down

Maybe I'm just spoiled by the PDC camera work

Other than that the coverage seems to be good so far and the highlights of the days action is on straight after the evening session finishes on Eurosport so get to catch up on the afternoon session

Green_Martian · 10-01-2019 9:53am

boomdocker wrote: »

apparently not, but he has said he is going this year. Has a solid game and And is a 2 time BDO champ after all - you'd think if he got through q school and went at it full time he'd be well capable

Plus he's the only BDO player to win the Grand Slam, was runner up as well - so he's got game - was a few years ago, but still..

Also, I think I read somewhere that he's working a 9-5 job, you'd imagine he'd have scope for improvement if he went full time

He was throwing some lovely darts last night.

I agree if he went full time he could only improve further, it would be great if he could get a year off from his job and give the Darts full attention for a year and see what happens

millhouse · 10-01-2019 12:00pm

He's a carpenter.

Bob Harris · 10-01-2019 12:20pm

Lady's day today lads..wahey!

Tarzann · 10-01-2019 12:28pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Is there any evidence or study's proving the superior hand eye coordination? I'd believe it though, probably a skill picked up from our hunter gatherer days.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5313487/

Male and female athletes differed significantly. The component approach yielded higher scores for male than for female participants. As expected, with increasing age qualitative and quantitative performance of male and female athletes improved. These results suggest that there are gender-specific differences in qualitative throwing performance, but not necessarily in quantitative throwing performance.

Kingp35 · 10-01-2019 12:47pm

Tarzann wrote: »

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5313487/

Male and female athletes differed significantly. The component approach yielded higher scores for male than for female participants. As expected, with increasing age qualitative and quantitative performance of male and female athletes improved. These results suggest that there are gender-specific differences in qualitative throwing performance, but not necessarily in quantitative throwing performance.

This is very interesting and makes a lot of sense as to why women are not at the same standard as men. However with significant practice a woman could get good enough to complete on the mens tour.

Neewollah · 10-01-2019 2:12pm

Where is Justin van Tergouw this year?

Kingp35 · 10-01-2019 2:30pm

Neewollah wrote: »

Where is Justin van Tergouw this year?

Failed to qualify for the BDO World Championships. He also did PDC Q School and failed to win a card.

He's played the PDC Challenge Tour this year. You can see his results for the year here: http://www.dartsdatabase.co.uk/PlayerDetails.aspx?playerKey=20142

Will I Am Not · 10-01-2019 2:39pm

That young Bennett lad is frighteningly good for 13.

boomdocker · 10-01-2019 3:13pm

Jaysus these women can't hit a double to save their lives!

DEFTLEFTHAND · 10-01-2019 3:15pm

Bennett beat the likes of Ricky Evans on his way to winning the Cambridgeshire Open.

Serious prospect alright. Hope it works out for him.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 10-01-2019 3:17pm

boomdocker wrote: »

Jaysus these women can't hit a double to save their lives!

I've found the ladies championship to be very poor this year.

It has been far better in yrs past.

Johner · 10-01-2019 3:22pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Bennett beat the likes of Ricky Evans on his way to winning the Cambridgeshire Open.

Serious prospect alright. Hope it works out for him.

He only turned 13 on New Years Eve. :eek: Great performance from him.

Will I Am Not · 10-01-2019 3:23pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Bennett beat the likes of Ricky Evans on his way to winning the Cambridgeshire Open.

Serious prospect alright. Hope it works out for him.

Ricky’s pace would have suited him down to the ground. Bennett looks to be even quicker.

peteeeed · 10-01-2019 3:26pm

https://twitter.com/livedarts/status/1083366069266538497

Rikand · 10-01-2019 3:34pm

Thats class ^^

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