Forgetfulness & Sleep

Black Swan · 20-12-2017 10:22pm #1

Older Adults' Forgetfulness Tied To Faulty Brain Rhythms In Sleep. Paper suggests aging can affect memory, and "Atrophy in this area of the brain is a normal consequence of aging." Varying levels of atrophy can occur for people without brain diseases like Alzheimer's.

Comments? Or did we forget what to say?

Fathom · 22-12-2017 7:19pm

Would repetitive, procedural jobs also contribute to atrophy? How about rhythms thrown off by disruptive work shifts. Always shifting? Or cramming for exams?

Black Swan · 26-12-2017 5:30pm

Fathom wrote: »

Or cramming for exams?

Shelby H. McIntyre and J. Michael Munson, Exploring Cramming: Student Behaviors, Beliefs, and Learning Retention in the Principles of Marketing Course, Journal of Marketing Education, Volume 30 issue 3, pp 226-243, May 2008, discusses deterioration in retention.

Fathom · 02-01-2018 9:22pm

Forgetfulness mitigated by metacognitive skills practice.

Black Swan · 02-01-2018 11:17pm

Fathom wrote: »

Forgetfulness mitigated by metacognitive skills practice.

See R.E. Clark at USC for declarative and procedural knowledge, and how metacognitive skills can be used to enhance learning and memory.

Fathom · 10-01-2018 7:29pm

Confused. Can dreams be declarative? Procedural?

Black Swan · 10-01-2018 10:40pm

Fathom wrote: »

Confused. Can dreams be declarative? Procedural?

Grand questions I'll have to look up, or consult with Dick Clark at USC.

Fathom · 11-01-2018 8:58pm

Black Swan wrote: »

Grand questions I'll have to look up, or consult with Dick Clark at USC.

"Forgetfulness?"

Black Swan · 17-01-2018 10:38am

Fathom wrote: »

"Forgetfulness?"

Indeed!

Fathom · 20-01-2018 12:12am

Forgetfulness of this thread?

Black Swan · 20-01-2018 2:26am

Black Swan wrote: »

Comments? Or did we forget what to say?

Humourous recycling comments, making me wonder if the topic has merit here?

Fathom · 31-01-2018 1:10am

Black Swan wrote: »

Paper suggests aging can affect memory

Summer volunteer. Helping Seniors with MCI/Alzheimers. Recall many not remembering dreams.

Black Swan · 31-01-2018 4:10am

Fathom wrote: »

Summer volunteer. Helping Seniors with MCI/Alzheimers. Recall many not remembering dreams.

This would agree with the research article in the OP.

Fathom · 31-01-2018 11:37pm

Alzheimer drug treatments may increase nightmares. Ref: Stephen M. Stahl, et al, (2004) in Examination of nighttime sleep-related problems during double-blind, placebo-controlled trials of galantamine in patients with Alzheimer's disease, Current Medical Research and Opinion, Volume 20, Issue 4.

Black Swan · 09-04-2018 9:54pm

When a student crams for exams. Should they cram up to sleep time. Get up refreshed and go to the exam? Or get up early and cram some more before exams? Which is best to avoid forgetfulness?

Fathom · 11-04-2018 2:22am

Less forgetful? Night before, morning after, or both?

Black Swan · 19-04-2018 11:19am

Fathom wrote: »

Less forgetful? Night before, morning after, or both?

Individual differences?

Fathom · 19-04-2018 7:00pm

Black Swan wrote: »

Individual differences?

Case study level. Qualitative.

Black Swan · 20-04-2018 11:16am

Fathom wrote: »

Case study level. Qualitative.

"A" grade for methods homework!

Fathom · 21-04-2018 7:19pm

Don't forget!

Fathom · 23-04-2018 6:41pm

Keep notepad by bed. Dream. Awake. Write or forget.

Black Swan · 27-04-2018 10:19pm

Fathom wrote: »

Keep notepad by bed. Dream. Awake. Write or forget.

Ben Franklin, historically one of America's most prolific inventors, used this method, claiming that many of his ideas found substance in dreams. He too believed that if you didn't write it down immediately upon waking up, you would more than likely lose it.

Fathom · 27-04-2018 11:14pm

Note to self. Look up Franklin. Dreams. Inventions.

Black Swan · 01-05-2018 12:22am

Fathom wrote: »

Note to self. Look up Franklin. Dreams. Inventions.

Biography.

Fathom · 02-05-2018 4:31am

Last night's nightmare I wish to forget.

Fathom · 03-05-2018 8:40pm

JF Blanchette and DG Johnson, "Data retention and the panoptic society: The social benefits of forgetfulness," The Information Society, 2002. Talk about benefits?

Black Swan · 15-05-2018 3:51pm

Do we need to define forgetfulness as a concept, or is it an elaboration of the obvious?

Fathom · 15-05-2018 5:38pm

Conceptually & operationally defined. Different per researchers?

Black Swan · 16-05-2018 11:35pm

What about intersubjectivity?

Fathom · 18-05-2018 1:26am

Black Swan wrote: »

What about intersubjectivity?

Lit review purpose?

Black Swan · 19-05-2018 2:41pm

Indeed

Fathom · 22-05-2018 4:58pm

Potter, Hartman & Ward (2009) in Perceived stress and everyday memory complaints among older adult women, Journal of Anxiety, Stress & Coping, Vol 22, Issue 4, Pages 475-481, suggested "Partial correlation analyses indicated that higher levels of perceived stress were associated with higher levels of memory complaints." But sample size small (n= 54). Caution should be used.

Black Swan · 24-05-2018 3:42pm

I bet with the small sample size (n = 54) they used Pearson r to do their correlation analysis, which, may be stretching it. Using caution as recommended above, perhaps they should have treated it nonparametrically and used an appropriate statistical formula accordingly?

Fathom · 26-05-2018 11:23pm

Probably parametric treatment. Statistical violation.

Black Swan · 28-05-2018 3:28pm

Fathom gets "A" grade for Research Methods.

Black Swan · 31-05-2018 5:12pm

Month end close, grant reports due 30 out, so a bit of distress may account for my forgetting my dreams.

Fathom · 31-05-2018 10:14pm

Cramming for exams. Dream forgetfulness. But not school materials. Forgetfulness selective?

Black Swan · 01-06-2018 4:28pm

Methinks that the scholarly literature would be lacking in concept selective forgetfulness.

Fathom · 01-06-2018 7:22pm

Black Swan wrote: »

Methinks that the scholarly literature would be lacking in concept selective forgetfulness.

Meltzer, M., Selective Forgetfulness: Christopher Columbus Reconsidered, New Advocate, v5 n1 p1-9 Win 1992. :cool:

Black Swan · 02-06-2018 4:42pm

Paul Ricoeur, Memory, Forgetfulness, and History, The Jerusalem Philosophical Quarterly, 45 (July 1996), pp. 13-24 .

Fathom · 04-06-2018 6:58pm

Forgot if I locked home door this morning. Went back to check. Procedural knowledge forgotten. Declarative remembered for exams. Wonders. Which stands out in dreams? Procedural? Declarative? Both? Ask Richard Clark?

Black Swan · 08-06-2018 10:29pm

Fathom wrote: »

Forgot if I locked home door this morning. Went back to check. Procedural knowledge forgotten. Declarative remembered for exams. Wonders. Which stands out in dreams? Procedural? Declarative? Both? Ask Richard Clark?

Dick would be pleased to see your use of procedural and declarative knowledge as applied to dreams. I'll bring it up when I coffee with him next.

Fathom · 09-06-2018 9:34pm

Dream recall. Procedural or declarative? Derridean dichotomy?

Black Swan · 10-06-2018 11:05pm

Fathom wrote: »

Dream recall. Procedural or declarative? Derridean dichotomy?

Grand point. Will give it some thought and reply when time permits.

Fathom · 11-06-2018 1:36am

Jacques Derrida might turn over in his grave? If limiting ourselves to procedural and declarative?

Black Swan · 12-06-2018 3:12am

No problems with forgetfulness for you.

Fathom · 13-06-2018 8:59pm

Not when cramming for exams! After?

Black Swan · 15-06-2018 9:55pm

What extent will the final exams cram and data dump affect dream content, as well as post-exam forgetfulness?

Fathom · 15-06-2018 11:45pm

Case study (me). n=1.

Black Swan · 17-06-2018 6:42pm

Individual unit of analysis, in more ways than one.

Fathom · 19-06-2018 12:01am

Population of 1.