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  • 20-12-2017 10:22pm
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    Older Adults' Forgetfulness Tied To Faulty Brain Rhythms In Sleep. Paper suggests aging can affect memory, and "Atrophy in this area of the brain is a normal consequence of aging." Varying levels of atrophy can occur for people without brain diseases like Alzheimer's.

    Comments? Or did we forget what to say?


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    Would repetitive, procedural jobs also contribute to atrophy? How about rhythms thrown off by disruptive work shifts. Always shifting? Or cramming for exams?


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    Fathom wrote: »
    Or cramming for exams?
    Shelby H. McIntyre and J. Michael Munson, Exploring Cramming: Student Behaviors, Beliefs, and Learning Retention in the Principles of Marketing Course, Journal of Marketing Education, Volume 30 issue 3, pp 226-243, May 2008, discusses deterioration in retention.


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    Forgetfulness mitigated by metacognitive skills practice.


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    Fathom wrote: »
    Forgetfulness mitigated by metacognitive skills practice.
    See R.E. Clark at USC for declarative and procedural knowledge, and how metacognitive skills can be used to enhance learning and memory.


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    Confused. Can dreams be declarative? Procedural?


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    Fathom wrote: »
    Confused. Can dreams be declarative? Procedural?
    Grand questions I'll have to look up, or consult with Dick Clark at USC.


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    Black Swan wrote: »
    Grand questions I'll have to look up, or consult with Dick Clark at USC.
    "Forgetfulness?"


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    Fathom wrote: »
    "Forgetfulness?"
    Indeed!


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    Forgetfulness of this thread?


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    Black Swan wrote: »
    Comments? Or did we forget what to say?
    Humourous recycling comments, making me wonder if the topic has merit here?


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    Black Swan wrote: »
    Paper suggests aging can affect memory
    Summer volunteer. Helping Seniors with MCI/Alzheimers. Recall many not remembering dreams.


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    Fathom wrote: »
    Summer volunteer. Helping Seniors with MCI/Alzheimers. Recall many not remembering dreams.
    This would agree with the research article in the OP.


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    Alzheimer drug treatments may increase nightmares. Ref: Stephen M. Stahl, et al, (2004) in Examination of nighttime sleep-related problems during double-blind, placebo-controlled trials of galantamine in patients with Alzheimer's disease, Current Medical Research and Opinion, Volume 20, Issue 4.


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    When a student crams for exams. Should they cram up to sleep time. Get up refreshed and go to the exam? Or get up early and cram some more before exams? Which is best to avoid forgetfulness?


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    Less forgetful? Night before, morning after, or both?


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    Fathom wrote: »
    Less forgetful? Night before, morning after, or both?
    Individual differences?


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    Black Swan wrote: »
    Individual differences?
    Case study level. Qualitative.


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    Fathom wrote: »
    Case study level. Qualitative.
    "A" grade for methods homework!


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    Don't forget!


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    Keep notepad by bed. Dream. Awake. Write or forget.


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    Fathom wrote: »
    Keep notepad by bed. Dream. Awake. Write or forget.
    Ben Franklin, historically one of America's most prolific inventors, used this method, claiming that many of his ideas found substance in dreams. He too believed that if you didn't write it down immediately upon waking up, you would more than likely lose it.


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    Note to self. Look up Franklin. Dreams. Inventions.


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    Fathom wrote: »
    Note to self. Look up Franklin. Dreams. Inventions.
    Biography.


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    Last night's nightmare I wish to forget.


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    JF Blanchette and DG Johnson, "Data retention and the panoptic society: The social benefits of forgetfulness," The Information Society, 2002. Talk about benefits?


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    Do we need to define forgetfulness as a concept, or is it an elaboration of the obvious?


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    Conceptually & operationally defined. Different per researchers?


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    What about intersubjectivity?


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    Black Swan wrote: »
    What about intersubjectivity?
    Lit review purpose?


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    Indeed


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