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Forgetfulness & Sleep

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,050 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Potter, Hartman & Ward (2009) in Perceived stress and everyday memory complaints among older adult women, Journal of Anxiety, Stress & Coping, Vol 22, Issue 4, Pages 475-481, suggested "Partial correlation analyses indicated that higher levels of perceived stress were associated with higher levels of memory complaints." But sample size small (n= 54). Caution should be used.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,231 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    I bet with the small sample size (n = 54) they used Pearson r to do their correlation analysis, which, may be stretching it. Using caution as recommended above, perhaps they should have treated it nonparametrically and used an appropriate statistical formula accordingly?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,050 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Probably parametric treatment. Statistical violation.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,231 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Fathom gets "A" grade for Research Methods.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,231 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Month end close, grant reports due 30 out, so a bit of distress may account for my forgetting my dreams.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,050 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Cramming for exams. Dream forgetfulness. But not school materials. Forgetfulness selective?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,231 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Methinks that the scholarly literature would be lacking in concept selective forgetfulness.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,050 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Black Swan wrote: »
    Methinks that the scholarly literature would be lacking in concept selective forgetfulness.
    Meltzer, M., Selective Forgetfulness: Christopher Columbus Reconsidered, New Advocate, v5 n1 p1-9 Win 1992. :cool:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,231 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Paul Ricoeur, Memory, Forgetfulness, and History, The Jerusalem Philosophical Quarterly, 45 (July 1996), pp. 13-24 .


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,050 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Forgot if I locked home door this morning. Went back to check. Procedural knowledge forgotten. Declarative remembered for exams. Wonders. Which stands out in dreams? Procedural? Declarative? Both? Ask Richard Clark?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,231 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Fathom wrote: »
    Forgot if I locked home door this morning. Went back to check. Procedural knowledge forgotten. Declarative remembered for exams. Wonders. Which stands out in dreams? Procedural? Declarative? Both? Ask Richard Clark?
    Dick would be pleased to see your use of procedural and declarative knowledge as applied to dreams. I'll bring it up when I coffee with him next.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,050 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Dream recall. Procedural or declarative? Derridean dichotomy?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,231 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Fathom wrote: »
    Dream recall. Procedural or declarative? Derridean dichotomy?
    Grand point. Will give it some thought and reply when time permits.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,050 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Jacques Derrida might turn over in his grave? If limiting ourselves to procedural and declarative?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,231 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    No problems with forgetfulness for you.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,050 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Not when cramming for exams! After?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,231 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    What extent will the final exams cram and data dump affect dream content, as well as post-exam forgetfulness?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,050 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Case study (me). n=1.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,231 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Individual unit of analysis, in more ways than one. :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,050 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Population of 1.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,231 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    When N = 1 and n = 1 ?


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    Black Swan wrote: »
    When N = 1 and n = 1 ?
    Census & sample.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,050 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Not forgotten Methods prep for exams.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭0lddog


    Those of us that are examless but with autoimmune issues ( chrons, RA etc ) can have disturbed sleep patterns.

    Immunosuppressant reducing cell replication rate compounds symptoms ?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,231 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    0lddog wrote: »
    with autoimmune issues ( chrons, RA etc ) can have disturbed sleep patterns.

    Immunosuppressant reducing cell replication rate compounds symptoms ?
    Good question.

    See Davidof-Lustig, M., et al, (published online 7 July 2009), Correspondence: Memory Abnormalities in My Asthenia Gravis: Possible Fatigue of Central Nervous System Cholinergic Circuits, Autoimmunity, Vol 14, pp 85-86, suggests from a study that there were conflicting results as pertains to memory loss when associated with immunosuppressants.

    More sources needed to answer this question.


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