Muscle and Joint creams, gels and sprays

pudzey101 · 23-09-2015 2:01pm #1

Hi all sorry if this is in the wrong forum but...

what is the best gel etc for muscle aches ?

I got some "etoflam" off a friend last night and it seemed to work quite well but lost effect after an hour or so ?

thanks in advance

dave

Zillah · 23-09-2015 3:56pm

S'all hocus pocus. Take some paracetamol if you're in pain. Ideally stop doing whatever is causing you to be in pain.

shivvy333 · 28-09-2015 8:12am

Hi there,
Aloe heat lotion by Forever Living is super for this. As a forever living business owner this is the product we recommend.

COH · 28-09-2015 9:12am

shivvy333 wrote: »

Hi there,
Aloe heat lotion by Forever Living is super for this. As a forever living business owner this is the product we recommend.

No agenda there then :rolleyes:

grahamor · 28-09-2015 9:38am

What is the cause of the muscle aches ? Long run or over did it in the gym ?

I quite like Voltarol and Biofreeze. Both are expensive but cheaper alternatives available.

pudzey101 wrote: »

Hi all sorry if this is in the wrong forum but...

what is the best gel etc for muscle aches ?

I got some "etoflam" off a friend last night and it seemed to work quite well but lost effect after an hour or so ?

thanks in advance

dave

Transform · 28-09-2015 9:39am

COH wrote: »

No agenda there then :rolleyes:

hot water bottle would be more effective

Transform · 28-09-2015 9:40am

grahamor wrote: »

What is the cause of the muscle aches ? Long run or over did it in the gym ?

I quite like Voltarol and Biofreeze. Both are expensive but cheaper alternatives available.

this i recommend but shouldnt need to be used all the time

ongarite · 28-09-2015 9:44am

As said before they are all hocus pocus, maybe they work in fooling the users mind that are of benefit.
BBC did an investigation on them, both the heating and cooling ones and all they did was heat/cool the users skin with no effect on muscle temperature or recovery.

https://youtu.be/BxM1X7jCh-A?t=20m13s

grahamor · 28-09-2015 10:40am

ongarite wrote: »

As said before they are all hocus pocus, maybe they work in fooling the users mind that are of benefit.
BBC did an investigation on them, both the heating and cooling ones and all they did was heat/cool the users skin with no effect on muscle temperature or recovery.

https://youtu.be/BxM1X7jCh-A?t=20m13s

Voltarol neither heats nor cools and is an anti inflammatory. There are some good Irish versions of this product too.

caviardreams · 28-09-2015 11:18am

grahamor wrote: »

Voltarol neither heats nor cools and is an anti inflammatory. There are some good Irish versions of this product too.

Yep I find voltarol good for temporary strains etc. too. Well, I actually use Diclac which is the generic version and cheaper about €7 a tube I think. Handy to have in the cupboard as a standby.

Transform · 28-09-2015 1:44pm

grahamor wrote: »

Voltarol neither heats nor cools and is an anti inflammatory. There are some good Irish versions of this product too.

exactly and i use the diclac as much cheaper

pudzey101 · 28-09-2015 2:42pm

thanks guys going to look into voltarol or diclac , cause was running on hard ground for too long

flutered · 28-09-2015 2:46pm

a vet product called uddermint, seems to be the choice of professional and simi pro's, add arthritis sufferers, greyhound owners swear by it for muscle and sprain problems

Desmonddoyle · 28-09-2015 3:09pm

What about Flexiseq or it's more expensive, and advertised to death brother, Flexiseq sport.
Anyone use it ? - I've heard from someone that it does make a real difference for managing knee pain/stiffness from injuries that have caused cartiledge to be worn away.

It's unbelievably expensive though.

grahamor · 28-09-2015 3:50pm

pudzey101 wrote: »

running on hard ground for too long

Shin splints perhaps ???

It's probably your shoes and tight calves that are causing this. Cream might relieve temporarily but try and find the root of the problem.

Transform · 28-09-2015 4:20pm

Desmonddoyle wrote: »

What about Flexiseq or it's more expensive, and advertised to death brother, Flexiseq sport.
Anyone use it ? - I've heard from someone that it does make a real difference for managing knee pain/stiffness from injuries that have caused cartiledge to be worn away.

It's unbelievably expensive though.

been using it for about 6 weeks now and helped lots for me, lower back issue, the drying was a pain in the arse though

review here - http://www.dominicmunnelly.ie/2015/08/flexiseq-relieves-pain-and-improves-mobility/

Transform · 28-09-2015 4:26pm

grahamor wrote: »

Shin splints perhaps ???

It's probably your shoes and tight calves that are causing this. Cream might relieve temporarily but try and find the root of the problem.

yup do all this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-QVp23IrNs

ive yet to work with someone that runs more than 1-2 per week that didnt have messed up ankles and hips mainly because their idea of mobility work and stretching is 2mins touching their toes before and end of the run

Mr Freeze · 28-09-2015 4:28pm

I heard about Magnesium spray. Supposedly has the same effect as an epson salt bath, you just spray it on the muscles and massage it in.

I have it, coudn't tell ya if its any good, but when I am desperate for a quicker recovery I'd use it.

waylander2002 · 10-04-2017 9:02am

It's been.proven over and over those gels or external creams don't work. Physio and anti inflammatories only

flutered · 10-04-2017 2:06pm

waylander2002 wrote: »

It's been.proven over and over those gels or external creams don't work. Physio and anti inflammatories only

uddermint does penetrate into the hurt, it is intended to penetrate a cows udder and heat up the affected part, all i can say it works for me, i suffer from ostioarthritis, i also have two bulging discs, plus broken bones in two places on either side of my lower spine, i have had all the modern injections nerves cut etc, uddermint in conjunction with antinflamatrys and pain killers when things go overboard

Transform · 10-04-2017 2:10pm

waylander2002 wrote: »

It's been.proven over and over those gels or external creams don't work. Physio and anti inflammatories only

pulls ups a thread from 2 yrs ago to say that - Y

waylander2002 · 10-04-2017 7:38pm

why not it shows up on google so its relevant content and available, your reply i dont see any reason for

Mellor · 11-04-2017 2:31am

Why are you googling gels and external creams when it's been proven over and over that they don't work?

Transform · 11-04-2017 5:50pm

Mellor wrote: »

Why are you googling gels and external creams when it's been proven over and over that they don't work?

Take a bow

pudzey101 · 11-04-2017 8:41pm

Not sure what creams/gels you have tryed , but since i made this thread iv got plenty on prescription and have worked a treat for me

.... better than poisoning my body with painkillers

Dtp1979 · 11-04-2017 10:15pm

pudzey101 wrote: »

Not sure what creams/gels you have tryed , but since i made this thread iv got plenty on prescription and have worked a treat for me .... better than poisoning my body with painkillers

I'm pretty sure these gels make there way into your bloodstream too. Same as painkillers

JJayoo · 18-04-2017 9:13am

Jaffa cakes have been proven,repeatedly, to help.

flutered · 18-04-2017 10:51am

hereabouts some recomend using pothein as a rub, others say drink it, then roll the bottle over the affected area

blinding · 18-04-2017 11:02am

Did anyone ever hear of putting cottage cheese on Joints and such .

I presume a poultus..............

deadlybuzzman · 18-04-2017 11:13am

blinding wrote: »

Did anyone ever hear of putting cottage cheese on Joints and such .

I presume a poultus..............

In his time as Fulham Fc manager, Felix Magath told a player with an injury to rub cheese on the affected area..... He was sacked pretty soon after that

blinding · 18-04-2017 12:25pm

Thats where I heard about it and I was just wondering did anyone have any positive evidence for this.......

Banjoxed · 18-04-2017 10:36pm

blinding wrote: »

Did anyone ever hear of putting cottage cheese on Joints and such .

I presume a poultus..............

Get a can of WD40. Apparently according to fellas in the building trade they swear by it..

Dtp1979 · 19-04-2017 7:49am

Banjoxed wrote: »

Get a can of WD40. Apparently according to fellas in the building trade they swear by it..

That myth has been busted

JimsAlterEgo · 15-02-2018 12:10pm

Transform wrote: »

been using it for about 6 weeks now and helped lots for me, lower back issue, the drying was a pain in the arse though

review here - http://www.dominicmunnelly.ie/2015/08/flexiseq-relieves-pain-and-improves-mobility/

hi, that link has gone now. Any further thoughts a few years on this gel? its pricey so before I try wouldn't find any feedback
Thanks

aquinn · 19-02-2018 7:52pm

Tiger Balm not mentioned but effective. Turns out it can be bought at the chemist.

JimsAlterEgo · 21-02-2018 8:56am

aquinn wrote: »

Tiger Balm not mentioned but effective. Turns out it can be bought at the chemist.

Thanks bit on the strong smelling side for daytime office use

majella mallon · 21-02-2018 9:32am

Due to an old injury I have recurring muscle spasm....I find coconut oil helps as it is full of great healing properties including good fatty acids, preferably heat the oil, massage in and rest, if you can cover with a support bandage all the better. I agree with everyone who made the point of not medicating or using chemical lotions if possible- long term anyway.

pmrc · 06-01-2019 5:27pm

Hi
I have shoulder and neck pain after a car accident.
Been to gp and physo.
They suggested i have whip lash which given my age becomes much more painful when the weather is cold and damp.
I don't like taking the prescription pain killers as it affects my ability to concentrate at work.
Currently using heat pads and etoflam which was effective when the weather was warm , completely ineffective since the weather has got below 10derees.
Any advice going back to Gp on Monday.
Or has any used acupuncture?

Alf Veedersane · 06-01-2019 5:46pm

pmrc wrote: »

Hi
I have shoulder and neck pain after a car accident.
Been to gp and physo.
They suggested i have whip lash which given my age becomes much more painful when the weather is cold and damp.
I don't like taking the prescription pain killers as it affects my ability to concentrate at work.
Currently using heat pads and etoflam which was effective when the weather was warm , completely ineffective since the weather has got below 10derees.
Any advice going back to Gp on Monday.
Or has any used acupuncture?

What did the physio do for you?

I ask because my wife and I were in a car crash and she suffered for months with whip lash. Physio did nothing. Got a recommendation for a different physio who said if he couldn't resolve it in 4 sessions, it would need more than physiotherapy. After 3 sessions he said she was good to go and never looked back.

pmrc · 06-01-2019 7:01pm

The physio just gave me some exercise to do twice a day, which i have been doing.
He did say that the cold damp weather would make it worse.
The accident happened in May so apart from the initial pain after a car accident i have been ok
How ever
shoulder and arm feel stiff and cold all the time since November/December.
Its very tiring as i work full time.

06-01-2019 8:12pm

Have you tried flexiseq? It's a gel you apply

Alf Veedersane · 06-01-2019 8:25pm

pmrc wrote: »

The physio just gave me some exercise to do twice a day, which i have been doing.
He did say that the cold damp weather would make it worse.
The accident happened in May so apart from the initial pain after a car accident i have been ok
How ever
shoulder and arm feel stiff and cold all the time since November/December.
Its very tiring as i work full time.

If your arm and shoulder have felt stiff all the time since November/December, I'd be looking to go to physio because gels etc are addressing some discomfort but not dealing with the underlying problem.

Dtp1979 · 06-01-2019 9:14pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

If your arm and shoulder have felt stiff all the time since November/December, I'd be looking to go to physio because gels etc are addressing some discomfort but not dealing with the underlying problem.

And don’t do 2 cycles of smolov jr Bench either. Just sayin.

06-01-2019 9:39pm

Dtp1979 wrote: »

And don’t do 2 cycles of smolov jr Bench either. Just sayin.

Lulz

ewiz9 · 10-01-2019 5:37pm

There is this cream called penetrex. very effective. A bit expensive. Can get it from biovea or amazon US. Lots of reviews in amazon

el Fenomeno · 10-01-2019 5:45pm

ewiz9 wrote: »

There is this cream called penetrex. very effective. A bit expensive. Can get it from biovea or amazon US. Lots of reviews in amazon

I would have thought a cream called Penitrex served a very, very different purpose

CalamariFritti · 10-01-2019 5:51pm

Apparently none of these topical remedies can possibly enter through the skin into the muscle or joint and do anything there. So I would agree with the hokuspokus sentiment.