F1 2020 :Round 11 Eifel GP Nürburgring

johnnysmack · 11-10-2020 2:51pm

Anyone else sleep through most of the race?

Busi_Girl08 · 11-10-2020 2:51pm

Last 10 laps were a bit dull but decent race overall. Delighted to see Ricc on the podium again.

bennyx_o · 11-10-2020 2:53pm

First time I can remember agreeing with the Driver of the Day vote

skipper_G · 11-10-2020 2:55pm

bennyx_o wrote: »

First time I can remember agreeing with the Driver of the Day vote

I wasn't paying attention, was it Hulk?

Faugheen · 11-10-2020 2:56pm

Top Dog wrote: »

Replace average with average?

Hulkenberg is a comfortably better driver than Albon. There’s no contest there.

I still think Gasly should be given another go personally.

jammiedodgers · 11-10-2020 2:56pm

Delighted for Ricciardo

klose · 11-10-2020 2:57pm

Yes Danny ric

skipper_G · 11-10-2020 2:57pm

Please let the tattoo be a honey badger

tipp_tipp_tipp · 11-10-2020 3:00pm

Enjoyed the race. DRS worked very well, allowed the following car to attack into turn 1 but there weren't many easy passes and plenty of good fights.

Great for Renault and Danny Ric to finally get that podium. The SC kinda ruined the battle with Perez, really wanted to see how that would have worked out in the end.

Bottas' mistake was terrible. You have to laugh after he did well on the first lap to make such a stupid error. The retirement kills off the championship now surely (not that he had much hope before today). Albon was also terrible and you have to wonder about the "retirement". He needs to spend a year or 2 with AT, clearly promoted way too early. Vettel again, another spin. Hard to believe he's 2nd best paid driver on the grid. LeClerc's lap yesterday was really fantastic, emphasised by the lack of pace the car had today. Good job by Giovinazzi too to get a point.

After all the concerns of cold tyres on the restart, it wasn't really an issue. Can they ban tyre warmers now please.

Nice touch with Mick Schumacher at the end there.

Top Dog · 11-10-2020 3:00pm

Faugheen wrote: »

Hulkenberg is a comfortably better driver than Albon. There’s no contest there.

I still think Gasly should be given another go personally.

Whether he is or not, neither is top tier so what's the point?

As for Gasly - he's happy and comfortable where he his. Both the car and the work environment suit him so he's better off staying there.

Busi_Girl08 · 11-10-2020 3:01pm

Aw that's a nice touch. Mick just gave Hamilton one of Schumacher's helmets.

Jordan 199 · 11-10-2020 3:01pm

skipper_G wrote: »

honey badger

I remember them from a video game called Far Cry 4. Nasty things.

Cool_CM · 11-10-2020 3:01pm

That's a great gesture. Like him or not, seeing 91 victories again is insane.

jammiedodgers · 11-10-2020 3:02pm

skipper_G wrote: »

I wasn't paying attention, was it Hulk?

Yes, 34% of the vote

DellyBelly · 11-10-2020 3:05pm

Delighted for Hamilton. I didn't think it would be beaten which now looks odds on. Hamilton is the greatest driver I've ecer seen. Even better than Schui..

McFly85 · 11-10-2020 3:06pm

Top Dog wrote: »

Whether he is or not, neither is top tier so what's the point?

As for Gasly - he's happy and comfortable where he his. Both the car and the work environment suit him so he's better off staying there.

RBs issue is that they have a phenomenal driver in Max and pretty much any driver will essentially be there to try and help him win races. Albon is completely inconsistent and useless to RB strategy wise.

Hulkenberg has shown in the racing point he’s more than capable, if he can get to grips with the car then he’d be a more useful no.2 for them.

flazio · 11-10-2020 3:08pm

I agree with leaving Gasly where he is, being Max's teammates is probably one of the worst seats to have if you are still up and coming.

skipper_G · 11-10-2020 3:10pm

I think Red Bull need somebody with experience in the second seat. Albon is cracking under the pressure, Gasly was the same. They could do much worse than having Perez or Hulkenberg in the car

Inquitus · 11-10-2020 3:12pm

skipper_G wrote: »

I think Red Bull need somebody with experience in the second seat. Albon is cracking under the pressure, Gasly was the same. They could do much worse than having Perez or Hulkenberg in the car

I'd take Perez, he has driven very well this year, in the pink Mercedes.

Top Dog · 11-10-2020 3:39pm

Perez a much better choice I'd have to agree

flazio · 11-10-2020 3:51pm

Poor Danny Ric when F1 TV asked why he didn't do a Shoey. The face was like "oh no" he totally forgot about it.

murphyebass · 11-10-2020 4:04pm

DellyBelly wrote: »

Delighted for Hamilton. I didn't think it would be beaten which now looks odds on. Hamilton is the greatest driver I've ecer seen. Even better than Schui..

Some good trolling.

No denying he’s a good driver but you could Put pretty much any driver in that car and they’d be in the same position. Even Bottas isn’t far off him. Verstappen is a much better driver. Just doesn’t have the car to back it up.

Hamilton is not a patch on the driver that Schumacher was.

A dark day for the sport today imo. And it’ll be even worse when he surpasses him.

murphyebass · 11-10-2020 4:06pm

Inquitus wrote: »

I'd take Perez, he has driven very well this year, in the pink Mercedes.

I’d love to see Perez as the second red bull driver. Albon has been woeful.

skipper_G · 11-10-2020 4:07pm

Wow, Albon's body language when talking to Sky. He looks done

Faugheen · 11-10-2020 4:11pm

murphyebass wrote: »

Some good trolling.

No denying he’s a good driver but you could Put pretty much any driver in that car and they’d be in the same position. Even Bottas isn’t far off him. Verstappen is a much better driver. Just doesn’t have the car to back it up.

Hamilton is not a patch on the driver that Schumacher was.

A dark day for the sport today imo. And it’ll be even worse when he surpasses him.

I don’t know what your barometer for success to compare the two.

In Hamilton’s first season, he beat his two-time defending world champion team-mate.

In his second season, he won the title.

Subsequently he went on to beat a team-mate was a world champion (Button) and would-be world champion (Rosberg).

In 2017 and 2018, he beat a four-time world champion in relatively similar cars. I don’t buy the nonsense that the Merc was miles better than the Ferrari. They were closely matched and Hamilton won both times.

How did Schumacher compare to that? Not denying Schumacher is one of the best of all time but the constant need to downplay Hamilton’s success is nauseating. You’d swear Schumacher never once had the quickest car for five years in a row.

KevRossi · 11-10-2020 4:11pm

DellyBelly wrote: »

Delighted for Hamilton. I didn't think it would be beaten which now looks odds on. Hamilton is the greatest driver I've ecer seen. Even better than Schui..

Schumacher wasn't the greatest driver of all time.

Neither is Hamilton.

murphyebass · 11-10-2020 4:15pm

Faugheen wrote: »

In 2017 and 2018, he beat a four-time world champion in relatively similar cars. I don’t buy the nonsense that the Merc was miles better than the Ferrari. They were closely matched and Hamilton won both times.

Mercedes was miles ahead of Ferrari.

Few, outside of Hamilton fanboys, would say any different.

Jordan 199 · 11-10-2020 4:18pm

KevRossi wrote: »

Schumacher wasn't the greatest driver of all time.

Neither is Hamilton.

Tell us who is then

flazio · 11-10-2020 4:24pm

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Tell us who is then

Just not here because that has nothing to do with the Grand Prix

Faugheen · 11-10-2020 4:24pm

murphyebass wrote: »

Mercedes was miles ahead of Ferrari.

Few, outside of Hamilton fanboys, would say any different.

It really wasn’t.

jammiedodgers · 11-10-2020 4:33pm

murphyebass wrote: »

Some good trolling.

No denying he’s a good driver but you could Put pretty much any driver in that car and they’d be in the same position. Even Bottas isn’t far off him. Verstappen is a much better driver. Just doesn’t have the car to back it up.

Hamilton is not a patch on the driver that Schumacher was.

A dark day for the sport today imo. And it’ll be even worse when he surpasses him.

Would it be a dark day for the sport so if any other driver was in the seat?

weekaizer · 11-10-2020 4:39pm

I’m honestly fed up of all this comparison of schumacher and hamilton... just give over, myself included it’s a matter of opinion and no amount of arguing will ever change one sides opinion.

Burkie1203 · 11-10-2020 4:43pm

Perez interview with ch4 later but a snippet was put out that he says he won't be racing at the back

That rules out Alfa or Haas.

Wonder if Red Bull is a viable option for him now .....

BikeRacer · 11-10-2020 4:45pm

murphyebass wrote: »

Some good trolling.

An opinion held by many which you don't agree with is not trolling.

murphyebass wrote: »

A dark day for the sport today imo. And it’ll be even worse when he surpasses him.

This is trolling. When you think back at the genuine dark days of F1 such as Senna dying, Hamilton equaling a win record doesn't even come close. Get a grip.

Joeface · 11-10-2020 5:09pm

Cannot say today was good or bad race ...just felt a bit bland .

Good for Renault and Dani Ric to get on the Podium at last . leclerc seemed to enjoy himself up and down the grid more times today than anyone . its still a S*** Car .

Gio Finally getting the better in races of Kimi . only takes his seat been on the line to motive him.

Did Hulk get driver of the day ...good Performance deserved it if he did.

Alex Albon , poor fella . I think his F1 time is kinda coming to an end . He was bad today . Poor start ..which he could have recover from but hitting Kyvatt was bad , almost clipped Gasly as well and then the Racing him so hard comment I felt was strange. I wanted Redbull to give him time but he really did need to be more consistent week to week and now I just don't see it happening for him . Redbull need a second driver running in the top 4 to help race strategies, its kind of clear now Alex is not the guy. Some good races passing people but over all its making him seem more average . To make it worse for him he cannot go down to Alpha Tauri as both their drivers are actually Driving well this season and there is Pressure there from the F2 driver Yuki Tsunoda for a seat as well.

Cool_CM · 11-10-2020 5:16pm

flazio wrote: »

Poor Danny Ric when F1 TV asked why he didn't do a Shoey. The face was like "oh no" he totally forgot about it.

It's probably much harder to do once the adrenaline has worn off :pac:

https://www.facebook.com/171398419619795/posts/3478848775541393/

Infoanon · 11-10-2020 6:07pm

flazio wrote: »

Poor Danny Ric when F1 TV asked why he didn't do a Shoey. The face was like "oh no" he totally forgot about it.

The ' Shoey' is only for when you win ?? Jack Miller -who started the trend at top level motorsports - only does it for wins iirc

Jordan 199 · 11-10-2020 6:36pm

mickdw · 11-10-2020 6:36pm

Infoanon wrote: »

The ' Shoey' is only for when you win ?? Jack Miller -who started the trend at top level motorsports - only does it for wins iirc

Ricciardo only did it for 2nd or better when with redbull if i remember correctly but first podium for Renault would warrant it.

afatbollix · 11-10-2020 9:40pm

KevRossi wrote: »

Schumacher wasn't the greatest driver of all time.

Neither is Hamilton.

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Tell us who is then

Anyone driving a hire car?

chicorytip · 11-10-2020 10:02pm

Inquitus wrote: »

I'd take Perez, he has driven very well this year, in the pink Mercedes.

They will never recruit an older driver like Perez who has just been released by another team. It's not Marko's style. He's the one that makes the decision. They can't keep moving Gasly and Kyvat around either so it's a difficult problem but it will be an in house appointment.

AMKC · 11-10-2020 10:22pm

Good race today. The Ferrari seems to be improving it certainly looked better this weekend. Delighted for Danny. Cyril will have to get a tattoo now. I do not envy him. Poor Kimi more than ever I think he needs go retire this year. Poor George Russel too. Nick Hulkinberg done good. Sergio very unlucky not to be on the podium today.

El_Duderino 09 · 11-10-2020 11:05pm

AMKC wrote: »

Good race today. The Ferrari seems to be improving it certainly looked better this weekend. Delighted for Danny. Cyril will have to get a tattoo now. I do not envy him. Poor Kimi more than ever I think he needs go retire this year. Poor George Russel too. Nick Hulkinberg done good. Sergiovunlucky not to be on the podium today.

BBC suggested it might be a good track for ferrari as it's not very power sensitive. All the ferraris were more competitive as demonstrated by all three ferrari teams scoring points. Good to see ferrari can be somewhat competitive at a track like this. Are there many tracks like this coming up in the rest of the season?

Renault is becoming consistently competitive at the last few tracks which have been quite different in characteristics. That's very positive.

mickdw · 11-10-2020 11:10pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

BBC suggested it might be a good track for ferrari as it's not very power sensitive. All the ferraris were more competitive as demonstrated by all three ferrari teams scoring points. Good to see ferrari can be somewhat competitive at a track like this. Are there many tracks like this coming up in the rest of the season?

Renault is becoming consistently competitive at the last few tracks which have been quite different in characteristics. That's very positive.

Alonso could find himself in quite a good car next year.

11-10-2020 11:13pm

Joeface wrote: »

Cannot say today was good or bad race ...just felt a bit bland

Sums it up tbh. Just feels like there's nothing at stake as the cars cruise around.

RunningFlyer · 11-10-2020 11:22pm

Must say, enjoyed the race today. Good mixture of teams battling, and absolutely delighted Danny Ric got a podium. Disappointed Max couldn't "send it" after the SC restart but credit to Hamilton, I think he was genuinely humbled when Mick arrived and gave him his dad's helmet.

It's moments like those that you forget about politics and characters, and realise there's people behind the helmets and history.

tipp_tipp_tipp · 11-10-2020 11:31pm

RunningFlyer wrote: »

Must say, enjoyed the race today. Good mixture of teams battling, and absolutely delighted Danny Ric got a podium. Disappointed Max couldn't "send it" after the SC restart but credit to Hamilton, I think he was genuinely humbled when Mick arrived and gave him his dad's helmet.

It's moments like those that you forget about politics and characters, and realise there's people behind the helmets and history.

Yeah I think that presentation was handled very well at the end. Really nice gesture by the Schumachers and Hamilton handled it really well. Really nice moment overall for the sport. Good race today, shame we havn't been to this track in so long, it races very well imo.

El_Duderino 09 · 11-10-2020 11:50pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Sums it up tbh. Just feels like there's nothing at stake as the cars cruise around.

There was nothing at stake at the front but the midfield was in flux all race until the safety car. Lots of cars on different strategies and struggling to manage their tyres. The safety care caused lots of cars to pit at the same time for soft tyres and it killed the mismatches which had made the midfield interesting to watch.

El_Duderino 09 · 12-10-2020 12:13am

Listening to Hamilton's post race interview with BBC and he said he's "proud" of Bottas for his move to keep the lead at turn 2. Ex-fcuking-cuse me? Now I know who bottas was referring to with his "to whom it may concern..." comment

He can't help being an asshole. He'll never understand why he's not liked.

F1 2020 :Round 11 Eifel GP Nürburgring

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