Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury II - February 22nd

Nika Bolokov · 21-02-2020 10:21pm

Draw

Read a biography of Wilder I got on Amazon, whatever happens, personally I think he'll knock Fury out , the lad had had some journey to get here.

simongurnick · 21-02-2020 11:03pm

What time is the weigh in?

yourdeadwright · 21-02-2020 11:23pm

Draw

I seen the rebuttal from Dillian Whyte to Wilder,
That'll be some grudge if they fight,
Whyte saying he hated Wilder ever since he hooked up with a girl Whyte was seeing and that girl is now Wilder wife Telli Swift,
Then goes on to say one of Telli's kids is Baby Millers son and Wilder thinks it's his
That's going beyond the line of trash talk ,

NewMan1982 · 21-02-2020 11:34pm

I watched the first fight again. I scored it 114-112 to fury. There’s about 4 rounds I found it difficult to pick a winner.

weemcd · 22-02-2020 12:02am

NewMan1982 wrote: »

I watched the first fight again. I scored it 114-112 to fury. There’s about 4 rounds I found it difficult to pick a winner.

Think I'm pretty much the same as you on the scoring

ebbsy · 22-02-2020 12:49am

Fury via KO/TKO/DQ

€30......ouch.

squinn2912 · 22-02-2020 12:52am

Fury is huge Wilder well up too

EagererBeaver · 22-02-2020 12:58am

273 is huge for Fury. Kept his shirt on too, all there's gotta be some amount of flab in there.

231 is massive alright for Wilder. Looks to be pure muscle too. He interesting to see what his cardio is like.

walshb · 22-02-2020 8:21am

Draw

SRL, Hearns and Haye all picking Wilder on points..

normanoffside · 22-02-2020 9:49am

normanoffside wrote: »

High 260s, low 270s I reckon.

Also lbs are imperial....

I told you lads. 273lbs Fury.

22-02-2020 11:34am

Once again, no legal way to pay for an event I want to pay for. Do they not want money from Irish customers?

walshb · 22-02-2020 11:41am

Draw

Deleted User wrote: »

Once again, no legal way to pay for an event I want to pay for. Do they not want money from Irish customers?

Yeh, it’s a bit irritating..

So, if you don’t have Sky TV in Ireland, you can’t legally book this? Is that right?

walshb · 22-02-2020 11:42am

Draw

normanoffside wrote: »

I told you lads. 273lbs Fury.

Odds have barely changed after the weigh-in. Both level now. Fury was slight favourite before weigh-in..

I think the extra weight on Fury May make him less mobile, hence that bit easier to track and hit.

walshb · 22-02-2020 11:46am

Draw

Btw, Fury must have had 5-6 lbs on him with clothes...

Dunston · 22-02-2020 11:47am

walshb wrote: »

Odds have barely changed after the weigh-in. Both level now. Fury was slight favourite before weigh-in..

I think the extra weight on Fury May make him less mobile, hence that bit easier to track and hit.

Wilder was fav all week before the weigh in. Odds have moved slightly in Wilder's favour again after weigh in. He's even money on betfair. Fury 2.14

NewMan1982 · 22-02-2020 11:52am

It’s a 50/50 fight in my opinion. Wilder won’t win on points and fury won’t score a KO.

Fury manages to avoid wilders hard punches all night and he wins on points.

Wilder is very wild and hugely reliant on landing a KO blow. He doesn’t have elite level boxing skills.

For some reason I am leaning slightly towards a wilder ko this time.

squinn2912 · 22-02-2020 12:04pm

I’m thinking a Fury KO. Wilder will try to be cautious and not dive in. Fury to pick him apart and make him lose concentration and patience when he is behind. Fury will slip a big shot then get wilder in trouble and finish him. Round 8/9

Blanco100 · 22-02-2020 12:09pm

Fury is going to get caught when he plants his feet in front of Wilder.

Think coming in heavier/KO in 2 rounds talk from Fury is to deter Wilder from being more aggressive from the start.

Which is exactly what Wilder needs to do, get on him from the start, open up and let his punches go.

Mantis Toboggan · 22-02-2020 12:10pm

Fury via KO/TKO/DQ

Pity about the weight, Fury's best chance was to box and move.

Surprised with Andy Lee involved to let that happen.

nacho libre · 22-02-2020 12:41pm

Fury via KO/TKO/DQ

akelly02 wrote: »

Wilder KO

he always finishes the job second time round..........

I was leaning towards a Wilder ko, but then i thought about what Ortiz was able to do for seven rounds before he faded. A sharper and fitter Wilder should not tire as Ortiz did, so i think Fury will be able to remain elusive for 12 rounds.

yourdeadwright · 22-02-2020 1:06pm

Draw

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Pity about the weight, Fury's best chance was to box and move.

Surprised with Andy Lee involved to let that happen.

Could be unpreventable,
Rumours of an long term ankle injury so he had to change game plan,
We hear the truth after

yourdeadwright · 22-02-2020 1:07pm

Draw

Fury will be caught in 6 to heavy

ThewhiteJesus · 22-02-2020 1:10pm

Wilder is a light heavy, I think fury looks great for a man of 6 foot 9, concerned he already has a fat lip and cut over his eye though

22-02-2020 1:10pm

Fury via KO/TKO/DQ

Wilder looked great on the scales.

normanoffside · 22-02-2020 1:42pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Wilder looked great on the scales.

I've never seen him so bulked up. Not sure it's a good thing for him.

walshb · 22-02-2020 2:29pm

Draw

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

Wilder is a light heavy, I think fury looks great for a man of 6 foot 9, concerned he already has a fat lip and cut over his eye though

No, he’s exactly what a HW should be. In shape and big!!!

walshb · 22-02-2020 2:29pm

Draw

Fury is some unit...the width of the chap. Big big man!!!

squinn2912 · 22-02-2020 3:07pm

walshb wrote: »

Fury is some unit...the width of the chap. Big big man!!!

He’s vast! Are you getting up for it?

walshb · 22-02-2020 3:17pm

Draw

squinn2912 wrote: »

He’s vast! Are you getting up for it?

I intend to.....😊

simongurnick · 22-02-2020 5:42pm

weemcd wrote: »

“The Resistible Force vs The Movable Object II — The Rematch” by @mcdamien88 https://medium.com/@mcdamien88/the-resistible-force-vs-the-movable-object-ii-the-rematch-f4dc2c4634da

I've written out my thoughts on this one for anyone interested.

Great article man. Nice writing style. The more I think about what I have heard in interviews from Tyson, big john, sugar hill and your point about the kronk approach, along with the added weight....I think tyson will go for the ko. Can deontay capitalize on that? We will see tonight

EagererBeaver · 22-02-2020 7:19pm

walshb wrote: »

No, he’s exactly what a HW should be. In shape and big!!!

He's also massively above his natural weight. If he doesn't get an early KO he could really struggle with the cardio. Be interesting to see is he's packed any muscle onto his chicken legs.

walshb · 22-02-2020 7:25pm

Draw

EagererBeaver wrote: »

He's also massively above his natural weight. If he doesn't get an early KO he could really struggle with the cardio. Be interesting to see is he's packed any muscle onto his chicken legs.

Massively?

I wouldn’t call 7-10 lbs on his frame massive at all...

dougm1970 · 22-02-2020 8:23pm

Draw

the cut over furys eye will re-open and fight will be stopped while hes ahead on all cards...wilder by tko.

Stewball · 22-02-2020 8:26pm

Draw

Wilder in the 9th - I hope he smashes him to bits.

walshb · 22-02-2020 8:56pm

Draw

dougm1970 wrote: »

the cut over furys eye will re-open and fight will be stopped while hes ahead on all cards...wilder by tko.

A very distinct possibility..

blade1 · 22-02-2020 9:15pm

Will ring walk be 5 at the earliest?

weemcd · 22-02-2020 10:03pm

simongurnick wrote: »

Great article man. Nice writing style. The more I think about what I have heard in interviews from Tyson, big john, sugar hill and your point about the kronk approach, along with the added weight....I think tyson will go for the ko. Can deontay capitalize on that? We will see tonight

Thank you very much. I think Fury might try and press matters if he senses Wilder is hurt. Big roll of the dice but I'm leaning towards Fury going for it. He has to carry power at that size, his style for years has just tended towards movement based, outside style wins. Whether he gets the chance to, remains to be seen. Wilder is a fùcking freak. Cannot call this one.

fonecrusher1 · 22-02-2020 10:36pm

Draw

Wilder KO's Fury in the 9th/10th round.

Fury got away with it in the first fight. He won't this time. I want Fury to win but all signs point to him panned out on the floor near the end of the fight. With the extra weight he's going to make a mistake and Wilder will clock him.

Those who think Fury will KO Wilder needs their heads examined. :pac:

Ya know what I hope i'm wrong I'd love to see Wilder KO'd!:D

deisedevil · 22-02-2020 10:36pm

Fury via KO/TKO/DQ

OmegaGene wrote: »

Bt sport are saying 4am roughly

Really? It’s supposed to be 5 with many saying it will be later? Where did you see 4. I don’t want to miss this.

badabing106 · 22-02-2020 10:39pm

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Wilder KO's Fury in the 9th/10th round.

Fury got away with it in the first fight. He won't this time. I want Fury to win but all signs point to him panned out on the floor near the end of the fight. With the extra weight he's going to make a mistake and Wilder will clock him.

Those who think Fury will KO Wilder needs their heads examined. :pac:

Ya know what I hope i'm wrong I'd love to see Wilder KO'd!:D

Detontay is a dosser, he's getting sparked out, 100%

8th round

bassy · 22-02-2020 10:41pm

Draw

5am or after.

fonecrusher1 · 22-02-2020 10:43pm

Draw

badabing106 wrote: »

Detontay is a dosser, he's getting sparked out, 100%

8th round

I hope so. But no I disagree.

fonecrusher1 · 22-02-2020 10:51pm

Draw

OmegaGene wrote: »

This is where I saw the 4am but I think it’s nonsense

Nonsense is right it'll be around 5am. Possibly later.

SAM SO NITE · 23-02-2020 12:20am

Draw

Lads Wilder was ahead on a judges scorecard in the last fight even though the consensus is he was fairly beaten. " fury on points" is a good shout if fight was on in UK.

Fury knows this. I think fury needs to get him out of there as the best he gets is another draw if it goes the distance.

Wilder KO 5-8 for me.

badabing106 · 23-02-2020 12:38am

SAM SO NITE wrote: »

Lads Wilder was ahead on a judges scorecard in the last fight even though the consensus is he was fairly beaten. " fury on points" is a good shout if fight was on in UK.

Fury knows this. I think fury needs to get him out of there as the best he gets is another draw if it goes the distance.

Wilder KO 5-8 for me.

Yes. Even if Fury were to win this fight comfortably on points, he would lose on a "split" decision

Also,what is the state of furys eye? It is probably going to open up early . Fury has to have a gameplan to deal with that

I can't see this going the distance

generalgerry · 23-02-2020 12:39am

Fury via KO/TKO/DQ

SAM SO NITE wrote: »

Lads Wilder was ahead on a judges scorecard in the last fight even though the consensus is he was fairly beaten. " fury on points" is a good shout if fight was on in UK..

Rumours today about Fury's cut having opened up in sparring. Given the huge orifice he had in his face I think that might be the reasoning behind him putting on weight - to try to end the fight before the cut opens. It's gotta be a huge worry for him.

Titclamp · 23-02-2020 12:39am

Fury via KO/TKO/DQ

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Wilder KO's Fury in the 9th/10th round.

Fury got away with it in the first fight. He won't this time. I want Fury to win but all signs point to him panned out on the floor near the end of the fight. With the extra weight he's going to make a mistake and Wilder will clock him.

Those who think Fury will KO Wilder needs their heads examined. :pac:

Ya know what I hope i'm wrong I'd love to see Wilder KO'd!:D

Sure what do you know about boxing.

Arm chair fan comment.

SAM SO NITE · 23-02-2020 12:39am

Draw

badabing106 wrote: »

Yes. Even if Fury were to win this fight comfortably on points, he would lose on a "split" decision

Also,what is the state of furys eye? It is probably going to open up early . Fury has to have a gameplan to deal with that

I can't see this going the distance

if i was Wilder id be rubbing the corn rowed platted hair into his eyebrow in the clinch. anything to open it up. fury was visibly flustered when it happened in wallin fight. Spilling claret against wilder is a different ball game.

Morrison J · 23-02-2020 1:36am

Fury via KO/TKO/DQ

SAM SO NITE wrote: »

Lads Wilder was ahead on a judges scorecard in the last fight even though the consensus is he was fairly beaten. " fury on points" is a good shout if fight was on in UK.

Fury knows this. I think fury needs to get him out of there as the best he gets is another draw if it goes the distance.

Wilder KO 5-8 for me.

Wilder's last fight was with the PBC. They'd want him to win. This is a joint promotion so the judging should be fair.

simongurnick · 23-02-2020 2:08am

Morrison J wrote: »

Wilder's last fight was with the PBC. They'd want him to win. This is a joint promotion so the judging should be fair.

It may have been "fair" before but there is a lot of subjectivity in scoring bouts. Not saying some judging isn't bent but two people looking at the same fight can have a different opinion.

Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury II - February 22nd

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