The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

Itssoeasy · 07-02-2021 1:01am

el Fenomeno wrote: »

I haven't listened this the championship weekend, were the guys supposed to be going to the Super Bowl this year? Or are they too low down the pecking order given the year that's in it?

Well no the last few years(pre covid) they’d go to the city it was in and do a podcast from the stadium. They weren’t there this year because of Covid but I was presuming they’d do a post super bowl podcast like other years. But as I said I’d be surprised if they do one this year.

The_Honeybadger · 07-02-2021 1:10am

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Well no the last few years(pre covid) they’d go to the city it was in and do a podcast from the stadium. They weren’t there this year because of Covid but I was presuming they’d do a post super bowl podcast like other years. But as I said I’d be surprised if they do one this year.

I don’t think anybody would begrudge them a few days off after this. It’s terrible. Show won’t be the same without him.

Itssoeasy · 07-02-2021 1:13am

The_Honeybadger wrote: »

I don’t think anybody would begrudge them a few days off after this. It’s terrible. Show won’t be the same without him.

Absolutely. I think given how close they all were I doubt they’d be able to focus enough to do. It’s one think to do the podcast without him when he was sick with the hope he’d come back but this is different. No it won’t be as he was an encyclopaedia of football.

Jofspring · 07-02-2021 1:16am

Was awful news to hear. Stopped listening to the show myself a while back. Surely they won't do a Superbowl show. Will be very raw for all of them.

el Fenomeno · 07-02-2021 1:23am

Looking at Neil Reynolds twitter, it looks like they were going to be in Tampa (I assume they have already travelled) and were due to be doing some spots on Sky during the broadcast too. I imagine those spots probably won't be happening now.

Itssoeasy · 07-02-2021 1:30am

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Looking at Neil Reynolds twitter, it looks like they were going to be in Tampa (I assume they have already travelled) and were due to be doing some spots on Sky during the broadcast too. I imagine those spots probably won't be happening now.

I know there are some NFL media there but I’d just assumed the ATNFL lads this year they’d do what they’ve been doing for those sky sports spots and do them on zoom. Maybe they had travelled.

The_Honeybadger · 07-02-2021 1:42am

Christy42 wrote: »

I don't get why Hunt was let go by the Chiefs when they are perfectly happy to have Hill around. Hunt would have been a great help to this team but they were (rightly) quick to get rid of him. Not so for Hill. I guess talent and position has something to do with it.

I think you are spot on. Hill got a pass from the Chiefs because of his talent and his value to the team. They would not have won last year without him so I doubt the Chiefs regret the decision. They also probably knew their fans would look the other way.

Hunt lied to the team iirc, I think he was asked about the incident before the video emerged and denied it happened. He may have been cut either way but I remember the team making a point of the lie at the time.

I’m all for second chances but Hill should not be in the league at this point if the NFL are serious about player conduct. He is a complete scumbag

A Brad Maddox Guy · 07-02-2021 4:54am

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I know there are some NFL media there but I’d just assumed the ATNFL lads this year they’d do what they’ve been doing for those sky sports spots and do them on zoom. Maybe they had travelled.

Pretty sure this is what they were doing - on their last show they were talking about being able to watch the game with their families for once.

Gutted by the news.

Itssoeasy · 07-02-2021 9:08am

Aaron Rodgers won the MVP award last night at the NFL honours. Justin Herbert won offensive rookie of the year awards. Chase young won defensive rookie of the year award. Kevin stefanski won coach of the year. Russell Wilson won the Walter Peyton man of the year. Alex smith in a shock to nobody won comeback player of the year. Aaron Donald and derick Henry won defensive and offensive players of the year respectively.

And in the hall of fame I know Charles Woodson and John lynch got in because there’s video showing the moment they found out. Im assuming peyton manning got in I just haven’t seen it yet.

Shedite27 · 07-02-2021 10:27am

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Aaron Rodgers won the MVP award last night at the NFL honours. Justin Herbert won offensive rookie of the year awards. Chase young won defensive rookie of the year award. Kevin stefanski won coach of the year. Russell Wilson won the Walter Peyton man of the year. Alex smith in a shock to nobody won comeback player of the year. Aaron Donald and derick Henry won defensive and offensive players of the year respectively.

And in the hall of fame I know Charles Woodson and John lynch got in because there’s video showing the moment they found out. Im assuming peyton manning got in I just haven’t seen it yet.

CLass of 2021:

Peyton Manning
Charles Woodson
Calvin Johnson
Drew Pearson
Alan Faneca
Bill Nunn
John Lynch
Tom Flores

Itssoeasy · 07-02-2021 10:54am

Shedite27 wrote: »

CLass of 2021:

Peyton Manning
Charles Woodson
Calvin Johnson
Drew Pearson
Alan Faneca
Bill Nunn
John Lynch
Tom Flores

How was drew Pearson not already in is my question. Nice to see Calvin Johnson get. He had a hall of fame career in spite of playing for the lions.

07-02-2021 10:56am

Agreed, great to see Megatron in there.

raze_them_all_ · 07-02-2021 2:52pm

Good to see woods on in. Was the ultimate ball hawk and prifessional

eagle eye · 07-02-2021 6:11pm

Great to see John Lynch getting in. He's been waiting a long time, shod have been in a lot sooner.

07-02-2021 6:30pm

Is there a bigger dose in broadcasting than Steve Mariucci?

Realt Dearg Sec · 07-02-2021 6:32pm

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Is there a bigger dose in broadcasting than Steve Mariucci?

Ger canning.

07-02-2021 6:33pm

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Ger canning.

He somewhat acts within 20 years of his age though.

Foxtrol · 07-02-2021 6:39pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Great to see John Lynch getting in. He's been waiting a long time, shod have been in a lot sooner.

Probably his success with the 49ers as GM and the focus on Tampa this year probably helped putting him over the edge. It is such crap that how much a player's profile makes or breaks them getting in.

I'm delighted Megatron got in but it is pretty farcical that he gets in first time when other players with similar or better careers in less sexy positions cant even make the short list.

Itssoeasy · 07-02-2021 7:07pm

https://twitter.com/nfl/status/1358432800026882050?s=21

Fr Tod Umptious · 08-02-2021 10:17pm

Wow
I went the whole weekend completely unaware that Cris Wessling had died.
I watched the game on Sky and saw the other three from the podcast do their bit,
I was completelyy oblivious to his passing.
It's only when I saw the tribute podcast today rather than the Superbowl review show that I realized.

He had been on in a very limited capacity on the Sunday night shows this year, just about 20 mins a show, and you could really hear the way his voice was that he was not well.

He'll be missed on the show, none of the stand ins struck me as being on a part with him.

Very sad.

Itssoeasy · 08-02-2021 10:34pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Wow
I went the whole weekend completely unaware that Cris Wessling had died.
I watched the game on Sky and saw the other three from the podcast do their bit,
I was completelyy oblivious to his passing.
It's only when I saw the tribute podcast today rather than the Superbowl review show that I realized.

He had been on in a very limited capacity on the Sunday night shows this year, just about 20 mins a show, and you could really hear the way his voice was that he was not well.

He'll be missed on the show, none of the stand ins struck me as being on a part with him.

Very sad.

I was shocked there was a podcast. They mentioned the result of the game and that was it. The podcast itself was great. Colleen Wolfe did a superb impromptu tribute on nfl network prior to the game.

Shedite27 · 09-02-2021 10:22am

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I was shocked there was a podcast. They mentioned the result of the game and that was it. The podcast itself was great. Colleen Wolfe did a superb impromptu tribute on nfl network prior to the game.

The first segment of the Sky Sports broadcast on Sunday was talking about Wess. They had the 3 guys from the Podcast on talking about him. They were all getting teary so went to an adbreak and when they came back it was onto the game. Nice tribute, and a good way to do it without it clouding over the whole show.

Rich Eissen said some nice words on the pregame show on NFL Network too
https://www.nfl.com/videos/rich-eisen-pays-tribute-to-the-late-nfl-writer-podcaster-chris-wesseling

collybyrne · 09-02-2021 10:47am

Shedite27 wrote: »

The first segment of the Sky Sports broadcast on Sunday was talking about Wess. They had the 3 guys from the Podcast on talking about him. They were all getting teary so went to an adbreak and when they came back it was onto the game. Nice tribute, and a good way to do it without it clouding over the whole show.

Rich Eissen said some nice words on the pregame show on NFL Network too
https://www.nfl.com/videos/rich-eisen-pays-tribute-to-the-late-nfl-writer-podcaster-chris-wesseling

RIP Wess. Only found out late on Sunday myself, really heartbreaking news. I think all of us long time listeners were invested in Wess, especially since he beat it the first time. It was inspiring to watch someone who had been through what he had and then relish every second of life thereafter. His marriage and starting a family and the way he was able to talk about it without ever sounding sanctimonious. An extraordinary football mind and wealth of knowledge. Even if you didn't agree with him you had to respect his opinion because you knew he had done the work to back it up. Huge respect to the other guys on the pod too and the way they supported him and dealt with it on a week to week basis, can't imagine how hard it was watching their friend decline while fighting something so hard.

He will be sadly sadly missed. F**k cancer.

Oat23 · 09-02-2021 12:07pm

The Falcons will never be allowed to forget.

https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1358977607145029632

Itssoeasy · 09-02-2021 1:42pm

Shedite27 wrote: »

The first segment of the Sky Sports broadcast on Sunday was talking about Wess. They had the 3 guys from the Podcast on talking about him. They were all getting teary so went to an adbreak and when they came back it was onto the game. Nice tribute, and a good way to do it without it clouding over the whole show.

Rich Eissen said some nice words on the pregame show on NFL Network too
https://www.nfl.com/videos/rich-eisen-pays-tribute-to-the-late-nfl-writer-podcaster-chris-wesseling

Yeah I saw it and think it was very classy from sky sports. Dan Hanzus wasn’t far off crying and it was a wise move to cut it short. They did say at the end of the podcast Sunday night that they’d be taking some time off which is hardly surprising.

Itssoeasy · 09-02-2021 1:45pm

collybyrne wrote: »

RIP Wess. Only found out late on Sunday myself, really heartbreaking news. I think all of us long time listeners were invested in Wess, especially since he beat it the first time. It was inspiring to watch someone who had been through what he had and then relish every second of life thereafter. His marriage and starting a family and the way he was able to talk about it without ever sounding sanctimonious. An extraordinary football mind and wealth of knowledge. Even if you didn't agree with him you had to respect his opinion because you knew he had done the work to back it up. Huge respect to the other guys on the pod too and the way they supported him and dealt with it on a week to week basis, can't imagine how hard it was watching their friend decline while fighting something so hard.

He will be sadly sadly missed. F**k cancer.

Yeah when when he married lakisha(who in her own right seems as genuinely nice as wess was) and then having their son, you did think that the rough time with cancer was over and he was going to enjoy life. I was worried when he was saying that he was having to take warm baths to help the pain he was in.

Itssoeasy · 09-02-2021 5:33pm

Sad to see that Marty Schottenheimer has died.

Xavi6 · 09-02-2021 5:41pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Sad to see that Marty Schottenheimer has died.

The Head Coach of the Chiefs when I first started following them in mid-90s. Never made it to the big dance unfortunately but a very good coach.

Gutted about Chris Wessling, for me it’s the best podcast around on any topic and the four had such great chemistry. It won’t be the same without him.

paulie21 · 09-02-2021 5:46pm

Amazing to think Marty got fired after a 13-3 season

Itssoeasy · 09-02-2021 5:56pm

Xavi6 wrote: »

The Head Coach of the Chiefs when I first started following them in mid-90s. Never made it to the big dance unfortunately but a very good coach.

Gutted about Chris Wessling, for me it’s the best podcast around on any topic and the four had such great chemistry. It won’t be the same without him.

He’s the first chargers head coach I remember. The Washington post had a poor headline when reporting his death as they pointed out his poor record in the playoffs. Hardly relevant today.

el Fenomeno · 12-02-2021 1:42pm

It didn't take long for Urban Meyer's famed lack of concern for player and staff backgrounds to surface in the NFL.

Chris Doyle, former Iowa strength and conditioning coach at Iowa who lost his job over multiple claims of racism and bullying, has been hired in Jacksonville.

eagle eye · 12-02-2021 1:51pm

Has Doyle done courses to address those problems?

adrian522 · 12-02-2021 5:29pm

JJ Watt posts moved to offseason thread.

Mr. Guappa · 13-02-2021 10:32am

el Fenomeno wrote: »

It didn't take long for Urban Meyer's famed lack of concern for player and staff backgrounds to surface in the NFL.

Chris Doyle, former Iowa strength and conditioning coach at Iowa who lost his job over multiple claims of racism and bullying, has been hired in Jacksonville.

And Doyle has resigned now.

Oat23 · 15-02-2021 11:00pm

Former Bucs and Chargers WR Vincent Jackson found dead this morning. He was only 38. RIP.

The press release reads like it might be suicide.

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1361432500141252611?s=19

paulie21 · 14-03-2021 10:24pm

End of an era

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNFL/status/1371206865011548160?s=19

eagle eye · 14-03-2021 10:33pm

I was hoping Drew would do one more season with how the last one ended. He was clearly very limited by his ribs.
One of the all time great QBs.

14-03-2021 10:40pm

He’s no Dante Culpepper.

Christy42 · 15-03-2021 2:26am

140 million contract for Taysom Hill over 4 years. Except every year is voidable. Essentially breaks his cap hit over a few more years and brings the Saints a few million closer to being under the cap.

Smart money is on Taysom being let go after this year and not seeing much of that cash. Definitely falls under weird and wacky.

Also saw Jameis is their presumed starter next season as it stands. I get the headline figure is meaninglessbut weird seeing 1 qb get a 140 million contract and the other being named likely starter!

Itssoeasy · 15-03-2021 1:37pm

I know it started yesterday but tonight our time should be all kind of good stuff. It’s good to have some stuff NFL that’s new and isn’t from last season.

Itssoeasy · 17-03-2021 3:49pm

I don’t think this fits into the off-season thread but deshaun Watson tweeted a statement concerning a lawsuit that has been filled against him regarding an allegation of sexual assault.

https://twitter.com/bleacherreport/status/1372053609488080902?s=21

eagle eye · 17-03-2021 4:20pm

Yeah seen that and it likely scuppers his chances of a trade. Nobody will want to do a deal until that's all sorted.

Foxtrol · 17-03-2021 4:49pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I don’t think this fits into the off-season thread but deshaun Watson tweeted a statement concerning a lawsuit that has been filled against him regarding an allegation of sexual assault.

The lawyer involved is a neigbour of the Texans owner and paid to put up billboards to get the team to draft Manziel. Obviously there could be an issue there but the thing stinks.

17-03-2021 5:01pm

It looks as dirty as it gets on the Texans part.

eagle eye · 17-03-2021 5:29pm

Foxtrol wrote:

The lawyer involved is a neigbour of the Texans owner and paid to put up billboards to get the team to draft Manziel. Obviously there could be an issue there but the thing stinks.

So he's not a friend of the owner. You are suggesting he is working off his own bat here?

Itssoeasy · 17-03-2021 5:37pm

Foxtrol wrote: »

The lawyer involved is a neigbour of the Texans owner and paid to put up billboards to get the team to draft Manziel. Obviously there could be an issue there but the thing stinks.

Oh I didn’t know that. The optics don’t look great.

Foxtrol · 17-03-2021 5:44pm

eagle eye wrote: »

So he's not a friend of the owner. You are suggesting he is working off his own bat here?

Whether a friend or not, the lawyer is in the owner's circle and has tried to use PR to impact the team in the past. To me that sounds extremely fishy, you're entitled to believe it is fully above board.

Have you even read what the complaint is? Even if it turned out to be true, it wouldn't impact a trade at all. It is bad behaviour but teams are filled with far less talented players who have done far, far worse (without going into owners who have done worse themselves).

https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1372186614399655938?s=20

eagle eye · 17-03-2021 8:25pm

Foxtrol wrote:

Whether a friend or not, the lawyer is in the owner's circle and has tried to use PR to impact the team in the past. To me that sounds extremely fishy, you're entitled to believe it is fully above board.

I'm asking if you are suggesting the owner is involved.
I'd find it hard to believe he's friends with a guy who was trying to push the team into signing Manziel.

Foxtrol wrote:

Have you even read what the complaint is? Even if it turned out to be true, it wouldn't impact a trade at all. It is bad behaviour but teams are filled with far less talented players who have done far, far worse (without going into owners who have done worse themselves).

I have read it, it's more serious than deflate gate and look what happened there.
Nobody has any idea what way Goodell will look at it so they'll want to wait until it's over.

Podge_irl · 17-03-2021 9:48pm

eagle eye wrote: »

I have read it, it's more serious than deflate gate and look what happened there.
Nobody has any idea what way Goodell will look at it so they'll want to wait until it's over.

Why would anyone even try to compare a sexual harassment complaint to a competitive cheating issue? That's just weird.

Foxtrol · 17-03-2021 10:39pm

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm asking if you are suggesting the owner is involved.
I'd find it hard to believe he's friends with a guy who was trying to push the team into signing Manziel.

I'm pointing to reasons why the case stinks to me. Aside from money he could earn, the lawyer has plenty of motive to bring this case due to his priors related to the team and his previous attention seeking PR attempts - including a failed run for mayor and a tank. The timing is also highly questionable, a year after the alleged incident.

I have read it, it's more serious than deflate gate and look what happened there.
Nobody has any idea what way Goodell will look at it so they'll want to wait until it's over.

As already pointed out, it is very weird to compare a completely unsubstantiated relatively minor civil 'he said/she said' non-football related incident to what was deemed as cheating on the field (rightly or wrongly).

I have no interest in going down a deflate-gate rabbit hole, so if you're trying to find an excuse to rant about it and claim to be the victim you can go ahead, I won't be responding.

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