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Galway GAA Discussion Thread #2

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Great win for Turlough and would be championship favourites if the damn thing could be played off properly

    Instead they must go off for a few months and try to re-find this momentum in a few month's time in what is essentially a brand new championship.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    What was Jamie Ryan like for Loughrea? Saw him the first day against TAD he looked in flying form.

    Started mighty but faded a bit as Gort won every break and puck out in the second half.

    Johnny Coen had a fine game at full back and Joe Mooney had a great first half

    It's a strange championship.

    Oranmore looked like dark horses after round one and ahascragh looked almost destined for intermediate yet the latter were the better side yesterday!

    KL took a hiding from Gort and Sars had a fine win sans Joe Cooney, they had him available yest and were absolutely blessed by all accounts to sneak a draw, 7 down at HT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,372 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    jr86 wrote: »
    Started mighty but faded a bit as Gort won every break and puck out in the second half.

    Johnny Coen had a fine game at full back and Joe Mooney had a great first half

    It's a strange championship.

    Oranmore looked like dark horses after round one and ahascragh looked almost destined for intermediate yet the latter were the better side yesterday!

    KL took a hiding from Gort and Sars had a fine win sans Joe Cooney, they had him available yest and were absolutely blessed by all accounts to sneak a draw, 7 down at HT.

    Basically you can't read anything into April results. Clubs are happy if they sneak a win in one game just to keep them afloat until after the Summer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Basically you can't read anything into April results. Clubs are happy if they sneak a win in one game just to keep them afloat until after the Summer.

    100%

    A new tournament altogether come August really


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    That's what I heard too. He should have been nowhere near where Burke was but wasn't there to see it.


    Clip of this going around now. I would be more leaning towards the red being correct after seeing it... it popped up on Radio Gaa Gaa Facebook page if people want to make their own minds up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭threeball


    Clip of this going around now. I would be more leaning towards the red being correct after seeing it... it popped up on Radio Gaa Gaa Facebook page if people want to make their own minds up.

    Looking at that the red was 100% correct. Mulqueen was standing behind the linesman so if Morris was claiming to have the head down he'd have cleaned the linesman out not mulqueen. He instead looked up saw mulqueen and accelerated.

    Turlough get involved in some odd sh1t every year and it ends up costing them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭h2005


    To be honest I’d still be on the fence watching that. Ref has to be guessing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭Stationmaster


    I don't know to be honest. While he didn't seem to make any great effort not to run into Mulqueen, where was he supposed to go as, to me anyway, it looks like he would have had no option but to run into any one of the linesman, Mulqueen or the sub standing near Mulqueen?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭cosatron


    ill put it this way. I played club hurling all my life, I wasn't the most graceful on the field, big and awkward you could say. But I never ran into a player or person on the sideline the way morris did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    cosatron wrote: »
    ill put it this way. I played club hurling all my life, I wasn't the most graceful on the field, big and awkward you could say. But I never ran into a player or person on the sideline the way morris did.

    I push at most.......harmless


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭cosatron


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    I push at most.......harmless

    I wouldn't say harmless, considering mulqueen was knocked out for 40 seconds, had to be taken away in an ambulance and possible injuries to his neck from the impact of the ground.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭Stationmaster


    cosatron wrote: »
    I wouldn't say harmless, considering mulqueen was knocked out for 40 seconds, had to be taken away in an ambulance and possible injuries to his neck from the impact of the ground.

    No doubting the severity of the impact - it was hard. It just doesn't seem like a clear cut red card to me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭GS11


    Saw the incident last night, no way was it deliberate, Morris is feisty, won't back down from anything, his reaction afterwards probably didn't help as he just seemed to square up, but that was just his protective instincts coming into play, travelling at speed, he was trying to stay in play, tapped the ball into play b4 he crashed into him, no way he could have seem him or it being deliberate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭MfMan


    GS11 wrote: »
    Saw the incident last night, no way was it deliberate, Morris is feisty, won't back down from anything, his reaction afterwards probably didn't help as he just seemed to square up, but that was just his protective instincts coming into play, travelling at speed, he was trying to stay in play, tapped the ball into play b4 he crashed into him, no way he could have seem him or it being deliberate.

    Ambivalent about it; he had just offloaded the ball so his concentration was most likely onto onfield matters. He did manage to dodge the linesman though and didn't brake too hard prior to collision. Mulqueen shouldn't ha' been standing there anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭spurshero


    Suprised at Gary O donnell being named football captain . I thought he would be more of an impact sub at this stage . If Kieran molloy isn’t starting this summer I give up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭spurshero


    Should have stated above that o donnell is captain till comer returns


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    spurshero wrote:
    Suprised at Gary O donnell being named football captain . I thought he would be more of an impact sub at this stage . If Kieran molloy isn’t starting this summer I give up


    Ya it's a strange one for me too.... is he certain of a spot if we get to a Connacht final and Comer isn't back? Thought it would of been fair enough to give it to Tom Flynn.

    Hurling news Evan Niland added to the hurling panel. Should keep Jason Flynn on his toes. From the club games last weekend looks like only JC and Fintan Burke aren't hurling at the minute. (Johnny Glynn is not hurling for Ardrahan this year)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    Don't see O'Donnell being capt having any relavance really. He was vice captain last year. Whatever about inside dressing rooms, on field captain has less importance in GAA than basically any other sport. Would be surprised to see him starting


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭RobbieRuns


    Gary has been a good servant to Galway Football. Don't see why it would upset anyone. He is experienced and is obviously highly thought of by management. Good luck to him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    RobbieRuns wrote: »
    Gary has been a good servant to Galway Football. Don't see why it would upset anyone. He is experienced and is obviously highly thought of by management. Good luck to him

    Absolutely. Had a dodgy start to his career but a few very solid years at center back amid unwarranted criticism. Just think Kevin went for youth over him last summer and can't see that reversing now another year on with a further addition or two also


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭leestone


    Anyone know the actual hurling squad?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭RobbieRuns


    leestone wrote: »
    Anyone know the actual hurling squad?

    No idea.........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,372 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    The Galway Team to face London

    1. Ruairí Lavelle (Salthill Knocknacarra)
    2. Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdown)
    3. Sean Andy O’Ceallaigh (Naomh Anna, Leitir Móir)
    4. David Wynne (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
    5. Liam Silke (Corofin)
    6. John Daly (Mountbellew Moylough)
    7. Gary O’Donnell (Tuam Stars)
    8. Tom Flynn (Athenry)
    9. Michael Daly (Mountbellew/Moylough)
    10. Antaine O’Laoi (An Spidéal)
    11. Padraic Cunningham (Headford)
    12. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
    13. Ian Burke (Corofin)
    14. Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin/Clonberne)
    15. Danny Cummins (Claregalway)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭h2005


    Wonder what the odds are on that 15 actually starting?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭RobbieRuns


    It won't be far off that team I would say........... maybe one or two changes. It is London that they are playing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭spurshero


    Is Sean Kelly injured? We must have some defence if Kieran molloy can’t make it !


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Central Line underground in London is suspended. Which is the most straightforward way to out to the match. Make other plans anyone heading out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 693 ✭✭✭grbear


    So are London good or have Galway just been bad?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    grbear wrote: »
    So are London good or have Galway just been bad?

    I always maintain these are just complete damned if you do, damned if you don't games.

    Go over, get the result and move on. Similar with ourselves later in NYC


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    I expect a backlash from Galway after that game today and its a big help that they are playing Sligo next with one of the worst defences in Ireland. London can be very proud of their effort against a top 6 side and will have learnt more about themselves in that game today that 100 tier 2 championship games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭threeball


    Walsh going close to adding to his record of being the only manager ever to lose in London. Sticking to his usual crap of sitting deep against one of the worst teams in the entire competition. Farcical stuff. The man is seriously eating into the credit he has as a result of his efforts in 98 and 01.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,372 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    jr86 wrote: »
    I always maintain these are just complete damned if you do, damned if you don't games.

    Go over, get the result and move on. Similar with ourselves later in NYC

    Pretty much. One of those games where if you win it by 15+ points you get no credit for it and if you win it by 4 everyone thinks there is something badly wrong.

    Can't read anything into the NY/London games. London are a better challenge but the games don't mean anything come mid June.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    spurshero wrote: »
    Is Sean Kelly injured? We must have some defence if Kieran molloy can’t make it !

    molloy dose not fit what walsh wants in my opinion which is crazy , he seems to go for sticky defenders ahead of the more mobile ones , molloy is a fantastic attacking wing back walsh prefers his men to stay back

    liam silke is mobile also but he can hold the fort better then his club man , if someone was to take over galway in the next few years that can play the corofin system then galway would be a serious team


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭orl


    London no. 15 very good. If the second goal chance went in for London it could have been a different story. Dissatisfied about Galway's performance against a division 4 team. London up for it. Pitch in ruislip in great condition. Good to see so many Londoners without irish connections at the match.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭threeball


    Pretty much. One of those games where if you win it by 15+ points you get no credit for it and if you win it by 4 everyone thinks there is something badly wrong.

    Can't read anything into the NY/London games. London are a better challenge but the games don't mean anything come mid June.

    There's no way you should be coming away from a division 4 team like that being anything less than comfortable winners. Saying it was a no win game is a cop out. If Walsh had any AI aspirations this team would be trying to demolish teams like this and practice attacking strategies. Instead he's spent the entire league and this game doing what he's done for the last 4yrs. It's a waste of everyone's time especially the players.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭h2005


    What do Galway have to achieve this year for people to consider the year a success? All Ireland semi final?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭threeball


    h2005 wrote: »
    What do Galway have to achieve this year for people to consider the year a success? All Ireland semi final?

    With the squad available to him a semi final would be a minimum expectation. If these players were put in a system suitable to their talents they would be looked on as the primary challengers to Dublins crown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    molloy dose not fit what walsh wants in my opinion which is crazy , he seems to go for sticky defenders ahead of the more mobile ones , molloy is a fantastic attacking wing back walsh prefers his men to stay back

    liam silke is mobile also but he can hold the fort better then his club man , if someone was to take over galway in the next few years that can play the corofin system then galway would be a serious team

    If you want the Corofin way then it's Dave Morris for the job so. Frank brings them to 16 years of age with the development of skills being the dominant focus point then it's onto junior to get them playing the Corofin system. Now if you think it would just fall into place you may think again!!!! Would be up to the development squads to play that way from u15 up and maybe we might be able to have our top team playing the "Corofin" way by 2029.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    molloy dose not fit what walsh wants in my opinion which is crazy , he seems to go for sticky defenders ahead of the more mobile ones , molloy is a fantastic attacking wing back walsh prefers his men to stay back

    liam silke is mobile also but he can hold the fort better then his club man , if someone was to take over galway in the next few years that can play the corofin system then galway would be a serious team

    If you want the Corofin way then it's Dave Morris for the job so. Frank brings them to 16 years of age with the development of skills being the dominant focus point then it's onto junior to get them playing the Corofin system. Now if you think it would just fall into place you may think again!!!! Would be up to the development squads to play that way from u15 up and maybe we might be able to have our top team playing the "Corofin" way by 2029.


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    threeball wrote: »
    With the squad available to him a semi final would be a minimum expectation. If these players were put in a system suitable to their talents they would be looked on as the primary challengers to Dublins crown.

    KW can do no wrong with some posters here.

    Imagine Dublin were a post width away from going level with the worst team in Ireland in injury time.

    Funnily enough he was in charge of Sligo when London beat them.

    There's been no substantial improvement since he took over.
    There's been a marked improvement in the players available, which in turn has lead to a change of fortunes, but theres still no change in the style of play or tactical tweaks needed to turn games around.

    Saving grace is they cant possibly give him another year after this, so we might finally be able to look forward to the games knowing we'll see an exciting team who are genuine contenders.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    molloy dose not fit what walsh wants in my opinion which is crazy , he seems to go for sticky defenders ahead of the more mobile ones , molloy is a fantastic attacking wing back walsh prefers his men to stay back

    liam silke is mobile also but he can hold the fort better then his club man , if someone was to take over galway in the next few years that can play the corofin system then galway would be a serious team

    John Daly also seems to be ahead Molloy. Walsh system is hard to score against and beat and naturally he will choose Silke who is probably the best defender Corofin have. I think Molloy will have no improve on the defensive side of game before given regular starts or else given Heaney type role in the team.

    I'd question would Corofin's system work at county level against the top teams? at club level they have loads of room and time on the ball plus fitness levels are no where near county.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    h2005 wrote:
    What do Galway have to achieve this year for people to consider the year a success? All Ireland semi final?


    Winning an All Ireland for me. People may laugh after yesterday but that's where this team should be aiming. Interesting move trying Shane Walsh at midfield. A lot of players had very poor games. Also a worry when we turn over a ball how quickly teams turn it into a goal chance. Slow improvement and aiming towards August is the aim. Hopefully Sligo will bring massive improvement in two weeks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    John Daly also seems to be ahead Molloy. Walsh system is hard to score against and beat and naturally he will choose Silke who is probably the best defender Corofin have. I think Molloy will have no improve on the defensive side of game before given regular starts or else given Heaney type role in the team.


    Molloy will be starting by the Connacht final (if we're in it) imo if not against Sligo. He's been given a fairly easy time of it since Corofin won and has only stepped up his training programme recently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭threeball


    Molloy will be starting by the Connacht final (if we're in it) imo if not against Sligo. He's been given a fairly easy time of it since Corofin won and has only stepped up his training programme recently.

    I don't think Walsh fancies him. Walsh is safety first which is why we don't see fast counter attacks from Galway. Molloy is the opposite to everything Walsh wants.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    threeball wrote:
    I don't think Walsh fancies him. Walsh is safety first which is why we don't see fast counter attacks from Galway. Molloy is the opposite to everything Walsh wants.


    Could be right. Hope your wrong. Just one of the players after the game yesterday said he hasn't been doing as much as other players yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭threeball


    Could be right. Hope your wrong. Just one of the players after the game yesterday said he hasn't been doing as much as other players yet.

    He isn't going to just throw him in to the mayo game and when you see him putting Gary O Donnell in instead of young blood in what should have been a walk in the park it's not too much of a leap to guess where he's going from here. He'll be lucky to get 15mins again Sligo if we're up by 6+ or chasing the game.


  • Registered Users Posts: 483 ✭✭donnem33


    Seems to be very quiet from the hurling panel this year! Is David Burke still captain?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    donnem33 wrote:
    Seems to be very quiet from the hurling panel this year! Is David Burke still captain?


    He is. Other than JC everyone else is fit and good to go. Up to the panel to show what they can do and MD to fit the pieces correctly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Anyone going to even try and muster a guess for a team Sunday? :p

    The fact its Carlow probably gives MD a bit of leeway, but there are some calls to be made. I'd expect Daithi and David Burke to come straight in, but surely both Cooneys and Glynn will have to make do with bench cameos

    Jack Grealish and Kevin Hussey to make their full championship debuts?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Hope Morrissey is given a start. He was injured but played club matches so he should be fine. Could see Hussey starting too.

    One of Dave Burke or Coen will likely miss out if Mannion is kept midfield which proved fruitful in the League.

    I'd say Skehill is no.1 again this year which doesn't fill me with confidence but he's a step-up from Flannery.

    I'd like to see Joseph Cooney and Glynn not starting just yet. Spring them off the bench for sure but Concannon needs championship minutes more than they do.


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