East Wall, Dublin 3

odyssey06 · 24-08-2016 4:49pm

Starbucks seemed to be open at lunchtime... tables outside had a few customers with starbucks coffee cups... very low key opening if it is properly open.

dsmythy · 24-08-2016 10:54pm

These sort of new traffic hotspots tend to sort themselves out. People make use of the various new businesses. People get stung in traffic over and over. People stop making use of the various new businesses sick of the traffic. Traffic calms.

odyssey06 · 25-08-2016 8:14am

dsmythy wrote: »

These sort of new traffic hotspots tend to sort themselves out. People make use of the various new businesses. People get stung in traffic over and over. People stop making use of the various new businesses sick of the traffic. Traffic calms.

It's not clear if the traffic issues is caused by the various new businessess... or due to the new traffic light conditions provided for said businesses. This is one of the main routes to Dublin Port, and is beside East Point business park's 6000 commuters.

L1011 · 25-08-2016 5:44pm

Traffic in/out of East Point has been getting worse all summer - there's close to no office vacancies and a lot of the firms in there now would be desk jammers. Could easily be over 6000 there now.

subpar · 25-08-2016 7:50pm

The main reason for the stop / start nature of traffic now on East Wall road is the new pedestrian road crossing lights at Aldi / Lidl.

This should have been anticipated by the DCC planners and insisted that an underground subway be a condition of the planning applications.

whiskeyman · 26-08-2016 10:20am

subpar wrote: »

The main reason for the stop / start nature of traffic now on East Wall road is the new pedestrian road crossing lights at Aldi / Lidl.

This should have been anticipated by the DCC planners and insisted that an underground subway be a condition of the planning applications.

I don't think that would ever be considered!!

In fairness, the lights are also for the Lidl / McD junction itself, as well as a pedestrian crossing.
Plenty more cars are turning in / out of Church Rd because of it, so the lights were probably a prerequisite of the PP for the site.

Even before that, the volume on the road / over the East link has been steadily increasing over the past year or so.

beauf · 26-08-2016 11:50am

I've used that road a bit over the last 2 years. I don't remember those lights not being there, or that section not being a bottle neck in all that time. There were a few rat runs you could use to avoid that road, but they've all been blocked by no turning signs at peak. So that will add to the increasing traffic volumes.

Simple fact is, increased activity comes more traffic. It will never get better. I would guess the majority of traffic is only passing through, and as such its being funnelled down this route through lack of alternatives.

odyssey06 · 26-08-2016 1:26pm

I think the timing on the lights could be easily improved... the filter light for traffic coming onto Church Road should be set to a lower priority. And I'm sure I've seen sequences of pedestrian lights - filter lights - pedestrian lights - main traffic.

subpar · 23-02-2017 10:47pm

Facebook moving into the Beckett Building on East Road

lucernarian · 24-02-2017 8:34am

odyssey06 wrote: »

I think the timing on the lights could be easily improved... the filter light for traffic coming onto Church Road should be set to a lower priority. And I'm sure I've seen sequences of pedestrian lights - filter lights - pedestrian lights - main traffic.

That's not the filter sequence in my experience having driven and walked around there. The general road access through there is overcongested and the way that two lanes of traffic appears when there's only one designated lane is making it a disaster for cycling, which makes it a disaster for pedestrians as there's so many bikes on the path at peak times.

odyssey06 · 24-02-2017 9:24am

lucernarian wrote: »

That's not the filter sequence in my experience having driven and walked around there. The general road access through there is overcongested and the way that two lanes of traffic appears when there's only one designated lane is making it a disaster for cycling, which makes it a disaster for pedestrians as there's so many bikes on the path at peak times.

Agreed about the lane disappearance.

But perhaps I wasn't clear about the sequencing, I mean the lights between LIDL and ALDI.
0. Position zero... cars are travelling in both directions along East Wall Road.
1. A right turn filter comes on for vehicles turning right off East Wall Road onto Church Road, pedestrian light is green for crossing between LIDL and ALDI.
2. Next, cars coming from Church Road onto East Wall Road
3. Next, I've seen the pedestrian lights come on between LIDL and ALDI again
4. Finally, it's green again for cars travelling in both directions along East Wall Road.

I don't think steps 2 and 3 are happening in the same sequence, but are successive sequences.

whiskeyman · 24-02-2017 10:55am

subpar wrote: »

Facebook moving into the Beckett Building on East Road

interesting, with Yahoo just around the corner.
It's very bleak around that part at the moment though.
Unless the Point Village starts to get more tenants?

And isn't there a huge office planned for just beside the 3 Arena?
The Exo Building was granted permission last year:
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/green-light-for-plan-to-build-dublin-s-tallest-office-block-1.2593827

bob_lob_law · 07-03-2017 12:03am

Hi all - I am looking at buying in East wall and would welcome recent opinions on st marys road at the community centre end.

I understand it flooded in 2002 but there have been remedial works. Is it possible to check the extent of these with the council?

I would also appreciate views on any anti social behaviour issues. I am relocating from stoneybatter so am not concerned but just wanted to flag it first. Seems like an area on the up in general. Feel free to pm me if anyone would prefer. Thanks in advance, Bob.

L1011 · 07-03-2017 10:59pm

Has D Cafe closed for its sale? Dropped by today at a time it'd always be open (8:25) and it was closed.

Neon_Lights · 10-03-2017 3:01am

L1011 wrote: »

Has D Cafe closed for its sale? Dropped by today at a time it'd always be open (8:25) and it was closed.

Wasn't open last Saturday anyway, could possibly be closed

Neon_Lights · 10-03-2017 3:06am

Does the people parking here and walking into work grind the gears if anyone else living here? Especially on a day off you can't park outside your own house at all

Alicano · 22-03-2017 10:00am

Neon_Lights wrote: »

Does the people parking here and walking into work grind the gears if anyone else living here? Especially on a day off you can't park outside your own house at all

I always thought DCC should impose a 'SMART car' only policy for the area

beauf · 22-03-2017 10:26am

Neon_Lights wrote: »

Does the people parking here and walking into work grind the gears if anyone else living here? Especially on a day off you can't park outside your own house at all

You get the same thing in suburbia if you are anywhere remotely near a train or bus line.

Neon_Lights · 22-03-2017 8:15pm

beauf wrote: »

You get the same thing in suburbia if you are anywhere remotely near a train or bus line.

I know the feeling having lived near coolmine railway for most of my life ðŸ˜‚ðŸ˜‚

DCC need to do the residents only parking like the Luas line or at least charge these people for the pleasure, i know public thoroughfare and all that, but it's a bit miserly workers putting residents out like that. I have a little smile on my face when one of these people get towed or clamped

beauf · 22-03-2017 10:19pm

I don't know where you mean in East Wall. They clamp people pretty quickly in my experience. The main issue with driving in the area is that is gridlocked a lot. Also with the one way system is can be very long winded to get around it. Especially theres traffic. Off peak though its ok. Unless theres a big event on in the 3arena. I have parking with work, but I rarely use it. Its far too much hassle, considering theres good rail links near by.

Neon_Lights · 23-03-2017 11:00am

Well the clamping and towing generally would just be people parking 5m from a junction, or on the odd occasion illegally parked on a pathway. I'm talking about church road, killane road, st Mary's road are all chock a block with parked cars during the weekday mornings

beauf · 23-03-2017 11:06am

if its get bad they'll introduce resident parking only if requested by the residents. I'm sure the council would only be too happy to oblige since they want to reduce car traffic in general.

blue_blue · 02-04-2017 7:58pm

Just noticed that there's a block of social housing to go up in the old Leech Paper factory (off North Strand beside Newcomen Bridge).

48 one bedroom and 12 two bedroom apartments.

http://www.dublincity.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=2467/17&theTabNo=3

Cannot envisage them improving the area.

ladykangaroo · 03-04-2017 3:42pm

Are you sure it's social housing?
While ugly like hell - to me the scheme looks more like developers' attempt to cash in on the crazy rents - at least that's my understanding of "built to rent" phrase and very vague explanation on how they are going to comply with Part V.

blue_blue · 03-04-2017 7:35pm

ladykangaroo wrote: »

Are you sure it's social housing?
While ugly like hell - to me the scheme looks more like developers' attempt to cash in on the crazy rents - at least that's my understanding of "built to rent" phrase and very vague explanation on how they are going to comply with Part V.

Definitely, especially when they look like this:

L1011 · 03-04-2017 9:17pm

DCC don't apply to DCC for planning permission; and they haven't built social blocks that ugly since the 1980s. I'm pretty certain no voluntary housing association is going to have "Capital" in their name

Are you applying woefully outdated prejudices here? Rather than doing any actual research?

blue_blue · 03-04-2017 9:48pm

L1011 wrote: »

Are you applying woefully outdated prejudices here? Rather than doing any actual research?

L1011 · 03-04-2017 10:00pm

blue_blue wrote: »

Yes?

A "residential scheme" means a residential scheme; not social housing.

There is absolutely nothing in the planning application to even hint its social housing; and everything to suggest a block to be built to rent (like Kennedy Wilson do, etc). Again - are you just applying outdated prejudices here?

Nabber · 01-10-2017 1:22pm

Just bought a house in East wall. The intention is to eventually make over to D4. Short walk to work for both of us.

East wall has changed a lot from how I remember it back 25years ago.

I told the bank the property would be a family home, they still suggested that I. A few years I could rent it an buy somewhere bigger. Some bankers never really got back to reality

subpar · 11-10-2017 3:40pm

Site close to new Facebook Building on East Road up for sale , could accommodate up to 400 apartments

From todays Irish Times

Prime Dublin Docklands development Site for €27 million
October 11, 2017 188 Views
On the instruction of Duff & Phelps, Savills is marketing a rare development land bank of over 5 acres in Dublin’s North Docklands and is guiding €27 million.
The sale is expected to attract the interest of residential & PRS (private rented sector) developers and funds, as securing a site with such scale and in such a central location is a real rarity in the Dublin land market.

This site presents a significant unconstrained street frontage onto East Road and are bordered to the north and east by existing residential enclaves. The property comprises a prominent site of approximately 2.10 ha (5.20ac). The terminus stop of the Luas Red Line service is within walking distance, delivering access to Connolly Rail Station and City Centre within 6 minutes, as is the Docklands Rail Station. The site is located close to The Point Village District Centre, a significant retail development comprising the Point Village Retail Centre, O2 Entertainment Complex and the Gibson Hotel. The proximity of these facilities to the site puts it at a significant advantage for any future development.

Under the Dublin City Development Plan 2016-2022, the subject property is zoned Objective Z14 (Strategic Development and Regeneration Areas). While there is no current planning permission pertaining to the property for future development, a feasibility study has been prepared to illustrate the development potential of the subject site, subject to planning permission. The site is envisaged as being suitable for primarily residential use, given the adjacency on three sides of existing residential use.

The feasibility study, prepared by Dublin’s leading architectural firm O’Mahony Pike illustrates the potential of the site to accommodate a scheme of approximately 400 apartments ideally suited for the Private Rental Sector subject to securing the necessary planning permission. In addition Ray Ryan of BMA Planning has also prepared a planning report on the development prospects for the site.

The property is currently occupied, however vacant possession is available by August 2018. This provides the purchaser with an opportunity to benefit from short-term income whilst seeking planning permission for a scheme of development.

According to Savills, prospective buyers will be provided with an opportunity to capitalise on an area undergoing significant change in the north docklands and also to tap into the pent up local demand for residential accommodation both to rent and purchase.

candyman · 24-04-2019 12:10pm

Nearly 15 years since I posted the original question here on this thread (I had a different handle then).

East Wall has changed alot in those years. I bought in the lighthouse apartments from the 1st phase in 2006 on the basis that yes, the area at the time, was a bit undernourished lets call it but the DAA at the time had some great plans to enrich church road and the surrounding areas and I could see a time when it became a bit like Ringsend in terms of modern development.

Saying that I never thought I would see the day when Facebook, Starbucks and East Wall could all fit in the same sentence but there you go.

While zero aspects of the original DAA plan has been implemented AFAIK, and I think even the DAA has ceased to exist (not 100% on this bit), but there has certainly been alot of development in the area and more to come I expect, the whole north quays now has the most cranes in the skyline - this is my very basic way of measuring development - so the future seems bright for this area.

For 10 years there was no tenant in the office blocks in front for example, now the EBS are there, alonside ALDI, LIDL, McDs, Starbucks, Spar etc. Spoilt for choice in terms of shops.

In terms of property prices, I'm wondering do people see further increases in property prices in the East Wall area. As context, I bought my apt in 2006 (at the height of the crazy) for 340k, in the interim, I have seen them drop as low as 180k. I'm guessing they are probably back around original prices or thereabouts now.

What are peoples thoughts on this? I know this is an open question but I just want to see what people that actually live in the area really think about property value in the area now and going forward.

Appreciate ur thoughts.

beauf · 24-04-2019 1:28pm

I think it would be interesting to do some stats on the property in the area, what type and size there are and where they are pitched, low end, high end.

risteardo · 27-04-2019 1:08pm

We bought our EW house for 320 in 2005. I think at the height of the market it was possibly worth 400 and it dropped to low 200s at the bottom. Right now, it's currently worth approx 350. I think any further increases will be very slow, and I could not imagine it going above 400 in the next 5 years.

B_ecke_r · 29-04-2019 12:11pm

the house I rent was valued @ 500k in the boom,

can't see it getting back to that but ya never know,

some changes there since the start of this thread.

lovely place to live IMO

odyssey06 · 13-06-2019 7:29pm

Interesting article in the Dublin Inquirer about the photo archive in Curtis Butchers in East Wall:
https://dublininquirer.com/2019/06/12/how-a-butcher-amassed-a-photo-archive-for-east-wall

Alicano · 17-06-2019 9:55am

beauf wrote: »

if its get bad they'll introduce resident parking only if requested by the residents. I'm sure the council would only be too happy to oblige since they want to reduce car traffic in general.

Just bumping this. As a resident. I don't want to see permit parking. I do however want to see speed bumps and some one way roads introduced to stop the constant short cutting by taxi's, trades vans.. and commuters. I live on Moy Elta and recently got a notification from TD re traffic calming. They advised the current speed limit for the road is 50kph (How on earth anyone can do that speed with two blind bends and cars either side is remarkable and unsafe). DCC will not be introducing speed bumps but will instead be making the entire area a 30Kph zone. I think this will achieve nothing as no policing in the area at all. I still have dreams of our road becoming 'one way' but may have moved on by then!

beauf · 17-06-2019 10:33am

Is speeding an issue. You don't make that clear.
Traffic has distinctly worsened in the last past year. Which is inevitable due to the all the new housing and business in the area.
Also some time limited turns, which means everything backs up now.

Alicano · 17-06-2019 11:52am

beauf wrote: »

Is speeding an issue. You don't make that clear.
Traffic has distinctly worsened in the last past year. Which is inevitable due to the all the new housing and business in the area.
Also some time limited turns, which means everything backs up now.

Yes speeding (certainly on my road I would say West road) is an issue. And I agree, traffic has worsened a great deal. The time limited turns are ignored. There is one at church road to Fairfield/Moy Elta (no -right turn) but It is not adhered to. As I mentioned nobody ever avail to enforce it and drivers know that. Same applies to double yellow lines on church road and disabled parking bays at Lidl/starbucks.
Cheers.

odyssey06 · 23-07-2019 1:15pm

Saw a sign in ALDI East Wall that they will be closed for renovations Monday 12th - Wednesday 14th August.

Re-opening Thursday 15th August.

whiskeyman · 23-07-2019 6:14pm

odyssey06 wrote: »

Saw a sign in ALDI East Wall that they will be closed for renovations Monday 12th - Wednesday 14th August.

Re-opening Thursday 15th August.

Anything new coming I wonder or just a rejig?

odyssey06 · 23-07-2019 6:23pm

whiskeyman wrote: »

Anything new coming I wonder or just a rejig?

I got the impression it was just a rejig but I must check it out when it re-opens.

blue_blue · 25-07-2019 1:32pm

Anyone know what the story is with the Petrol Station on Amiens Street? It closed yesterday with big signs thanking the customers.

Is someone else due to take it over? Being re-developed as something else? (There is speculation of a super hotel being built on that spot if the developers are able to buy Bord Failte next door). Nothing on the DCC planning system.

L1011 · 25-07-2019 6:27pm

Hotel.

Seabank undergoing restoration works now I noticed

ongarboy · 26-07-2019 10:18am

blue_blue wrote: »

Anyone know what the story is with the Petrol Station on Amiens Street? It closed yesterday with big signs thanking the customers.

Is someone else due to take it over? Being re-developed as something else? (There is speculation of a super hotel being built on that spot if the developers are able to buy Bord Failte next door). Nothing on the DCC planning system.

7 storey hotel going onto the petrol station site

https://www.independent.ie/business/commercial-property/sweeney-firm-given-green-light-for-32m-dublin-hotel-project-37886503.html

Gloomtastic! · 26-07-2019 9:12pm

whiskeyman wrote: »

Anything new coming I wonder or just a rejig?

Head out to Aldi in Coolock, they’ve had the rejig for a while. All the same products but completely different layout.

Alicano · 29-07-2019 12:14pm

L1011 wrote: »

Hotel.

Seabank undergoing restoration works now I noticed

Another hotel? Petrol stations inside the city have all but died out. It's not like they're being replaced with electric charge points.

Alicano · 29-07-2019 12:20pm

In other news, anyone know what was behind the car blaze on Fairfield ave 4am Sunday morning? Fire dept and cops down. Car was removed immediately too. DFB didn't respond to my inquiry about it.

wakka12 · 29-07-2019 2:52pm

Alicano wrote: »

Another hotel? Petrol stations inside the city have all but died out. It's not like they're being replaced with electric charge points.

Thats a good thing

Also the rumoured redevelopment of the bord failte HQ into a new super hotel(1000 rooms) is a completely different development to the one on the petrol station

L1011 · 29-07-2019 5:17pm

That petrol station closed for redevelopment just before the crash and reopened after a few years. So it was on borrowed time anyway!

candyman · 21-10-2019 9:55am

can anyone tell me exactly which building Facebook occupy in East Wall and where is it?
i think it's near the Seabank house pub but not sure which building...many thanks

East Wall, Dublin 3

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