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Diego Armando Maradona 1960 - 2020

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  • Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Das Reich


    _Brian wrote: »
    Cheats and druggies don’t do it for me.

    A sad day in Medellin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,702 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    Jimbob1977 wrote: »
    Stunning player

    The opposition were kicking lumps out of him at Mexico 86.

    He just dusted himself off and glided past them.

    While his time in Naples was a great success on the pitch, he got involved with mobsters and drug dealers. Naples was ultimately his downfall.

    Like George Best the guy was continually the target for career ending tackles for years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Don't mean to be insensitive but does this sad news warrant being the main headline on both the main evening news bulletins, just seems extraordinary with what is going on in the world but more importantly closer to home, Patricia Carrick"s Death, 2 homeless men found dead on the streets of our capital city (One just a few yards from the Dail)

    Maybe I'm wrong but WTF is going on in the crazy world.

    Possibly the greatest football player in the history of the game? Yep, it did warrant being the main headline in the news. Just because you probably aren't interested in football doesn't mean that many other people aren't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,904 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    He did.

    He once remarked that Diego Maradona wasnt a great player.

    Dunphy has talked a lot of ****e over the years but that would top everything.
    AMKC wrote: »
    He ran around a field and kicked a ball and got paid silly money for it. Fair play to him for making a life out of that but it's hardly a real job is it.

    Anyway RIP to him.


    And shouting, a load of men going around shouting!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp



    1950.jpg

    G'wan. There's only 6 of them. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭ooter


    Jimbob1977 wrote: »
    Stunning player

    The opposition were kicking lumps out of him at Mexico 86.

    82 was worse, they kicked the ****e out of him and he ended up getting a red card when he acted out in frustration.
    But he learned from it.
    Best there's ever been for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Pasteur.


    ooter wrote: »
    82 was worse, they kicked the ****e out of him and he ended up getting a red card when he acted out in frustration.
    But he learned from it.
    Best there's ever been for me.

    Did he play much in 82

    That was the famous WC with the great Brazilian team and Paulo Rossi for the Italians


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭ooter


    Yeah he played in all 5 of their games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭Sam Hain


    RIP. :(

    1950.jpg

    As iconic and amazing as that image is, it is also totally misleading.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭Me_Grapes


    Scoundrel wrote: »
    R.I.P Diego the greatest of all time and good socialist as well fitting he passed on Fidel's anniversary.

    Even more fitting is that it's the 15th anniversary of George Best's passing

    R.I.P the greatest of all time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Pasteur.


    ooter wrote: »
    Yeah he played in all 5 of their games.

    Really in 82?.

    He was too young in 78 when they won


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    I don't want to rewrite history but I was sure that match was at the end of May 1979 (that 2018 article says May 1980) when Maradona was 18.

    The Oracle that is "Ireland on the Ball", a compendium of every match played by the Republic of Ireland national team until June 1993 (A world cup qualifier against Lithuania in Vilnius, if you must know. 1-0 win for Ireland courtesy of an OG by somebody called Baltusnikas) says it was Friday May 16th 1980. Argentina won 1-0 thanks to a goal by Valencia.

    Their team comprised many of the players who had won the World Cup in 1978. Fillol, Olquin, Passarella, Tarantini, Simon, Barbas, Gallego, Maradona, Santamaria, Diaz, Valencia.

    By my calculation, Maradona would have been 19 at that time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    ooter wrote: »
    Yeah he played in all 5 of their games.

    Got the shít kicked out of him in most of them too. Especially by Gentile v Italy. Finally cracked up against Brazil and got sent off himself for some very belated retaliation.

    BTW, that picture of him facing the entire Belgian defence (actually a disintegrating free kick wall, if I recall) is taken from Argentina's opening match in World Cup 82


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,696 ✭✭✭dasdog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    ooter wrote: »
    82 was worse, they kicked the ****e out of him and he ended up getting a red card when he acted out in frustration.
    But he learned from it.
    Best there's ever been for me.
    Pasteur. wrote: »
    Did he play much in 82

    That was the famous WC with the great Brazilian team and Paulo Rossi for the Italians

    He kicked Zico in the guts.
    First round was Argentina, Belgium, El Salvador and Hungary.
    El Salvador lost 10-1 against Hungary because they just wanted to score a goal at world cup.
    It was also the world cup where West Germany and Austria played out a 0-0 farce which was the most rigged match in history as suited both of them to go to next round.

    Belgium marked Maradona with 2/3 guys and kicked him.
    Italy marked him with Cluadio Gentile, one of the greatest s***bags to have every played.
    He was a great defender, but he was as dirty as hell.

    Gentile later said he should have been sent off at least 3 times in that match and that was when you got away with tackles from behind and loads of stuff the primadonas of today would shyte their pants over.

    Argentina played Italy and Brazil in the second round in a group of 3.
    Italy beat Brazil simply through soaking up their pressure and exposing them totally on the break.


    Pasteur. wrote: »
    Really in 82?.

    He was too young in 78 when they won

    Some people wanted him to be played in 78 as he was already playing top flight football in Argentina.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    dasdog wrote: »

    I was right about the photographers :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭mehico


    So sad to hear the news this evening.

    As a player in his peak he was unstoppable and though mainly known as an attacking player and playmaker he could defend brilliantly also.

    If you seen him play in the World Cup semi-final against Belgium in 1986 he was literally turning up in every part of the pitch, unstoppable.

    His vision was amazing and how many times he carved out openings for his team mates out of nowhere when surrounded by opposition players trying to take him out of it. I don't think we will ever see a complete footballer like that again.

    RIP Diego


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    A mighty magician.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,477 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Sam Hain wrote: »
    As iconic and amazing as that image is, it is also totally misleading.

    That Belgian kit though, drool


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭Sam Hain


    That Belgian kit though, drool

    A thing of beauty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭Sam Hain


    tdf7187 wrote: »
    Are you for real? Surprising he made it to 60. He was a cocaine addict. Also the best soccer player of my lifetime, but he had a lot of health issues.

    So what if he cut more lines than a disabled kid at Disneyland. He should be most remembered for his iconic performances on the pitch. A misguided genius as some may say is still a genius.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    A supporter of Palestine and leftist movements in Latin America, I can almost forgive him for running rings around England. Different class in that game, and the hand of God was just crap goalkeeping from Shilton (who's an arsehole).

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    I saw him play in Lansdowne Road.
    Not bad. RIP.

    Was I dreaming or did Eamon Dunphy say "This boy can't play"? :)
    You're right.

    He's criticised
    1. Zinedine Zidane
    2. Diego Maradona
    3. John Giles
    4. Liam Brady
    5. Michel Platini
    6. Cristiano Ronaldo.

    I don't ever recall Dunphy slagging off Maradona. I do remember him being scornful of Platini right the way through Euro 84 (which France won).

    At the end of France's first game against Denmark, which they won with a late Platini goal, he scoffed "If they're the best in Europe, I'm Jimmy Greaves"

    He defended himself in the Sunday Tribune (RIP) at the time by saying that although he couldn't deny Platini's "brilliance", that did not constitute "greatness" which he claimed was something altogether different. This was probably the start of the "good player not a great player" cliché that has stuck with Dunphy ever since.

    France's semi final against Portugal ended in a draw and went to extra time. "Now," said Dunphy triumphantly on RTE during the interval "If France are a great team, we'll find out in the next 30 minutes." Portugal duly went ahead in the first half of extra time, and we feared Dunphy might be proved right. But France scored two goals in the final 10 minutes, the last by Platini with seconds left, to progress to the final.

    Dunphy was FUMING in the post match analysis.

    Funny how well we old timers remember matches in the days before Youtube, or even video cassettes! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,080 ✭✭✭bigtimecharlie


    RIP to the greatest I've ever seen ( albeit on telly).

    86 was the first real big tournament i watched and the second goal against England is the best ever.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭Feisar


    "The hand of God!", a legit defense to a cheeky handball when we were young lads on the green.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    A supporter of Palestine and leftist movements in Latin America, I can almost forgive him for running rings around England. Different class in that game, and the hand of God was just crap goalkeeping from Shilton (who's an arsehole).

    Really was poor goalkeeping, should have flattened Maradona while punching the ball clear


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Don't mean to be insensitive but does this sad news warrant being the main headline on both the main evening news bulletins, just seems extraordinary with what is going on in the world but more importantly closer to home, Patricia Carrick"s Death, 2 homeless men found dead on the streets of our capital city (One just a few yards from the Dail)

    Maybe I'm wrong but WTF is going on in the crazy world.

    He touched the lives of millions in the most popular sport in the world. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭Randy Archer


    seamus wrote: »
    I always found it bizarre how much the "hand of god" incident was applauded and celebrated in the football world as an iconic goal.

    It was blatant cheating in front of a global audience and in the highest competition the sport has. It should have been vilified as a dismal failure of the officials and an alarm bell about how normalised cheating and foul play had become in the sport - anything goes so long as you can get away with it.

    The other goal he scored in that game though, that was something else.

    It was against the English. They aren’t liked by everyone. The. You had thr Falklands war just prior to that (Argies started that and their dictator was a **** so they weren’t angels) but U.K. were criticised for going to war (damned if you do and damned if you don’t)


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭Randy Archer


    _Brian wrote: »
    Another example of a fine talent fckued up by drugs.

    When i see his name two things spring to mind, hand of god (cheater) and drugs. Not the legacy he could have left but those were his choices.

    Nonsense

    What he achieved in a 5 year time frame for club and country was more than most footballers. Teams just to go out of their way to break his legs. He is a small enough lad in height and had little business being stuck in that. He didn’t bitch either

    Thierry Henry has managed to avoid his career from being tarnished by playing Gaelic football against Ireland in the play offs .

    Few care about the drugs. Most /all of them were not performance enhancers . Coke has never being considered to be a drug that improved a players ability in any way


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  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭Randy Archer


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Don't mean to be insensitive but does this sad news warrant being the main headline on both the main evening news bulletins, just seems extraordinary with what is going on in the world but more importantly closer to home, Patricia Carrick"s Death, 2 homeless men found dead on the streets of our capital city (One just a few yards from the Dail)

    Maybe I'm wrong but WTF is going on in the crazy world.

    Oh jog on !

    Diego Maradona is was one of the most important , one of the greatest footballers of the tv era . Football is a massive cultural movement and touches millions of people - more than any scripted speech from any politician

    The domestic misery has and can still be covered . Most of the homeless , you didn’t and wouldn’t give two ****s about had you past them on the street, and most of them are on the street because of their failures in life . We all saw the sob story about the homeless guy dying near Leinster House during Kenny’s reign - turned out that he had family and had offers of a home but didn’t take them

    By Monday, normal miserable stories about beggars etc will resume


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,676 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    I remember the 86 World cup final.

    We were playing in the Feile finals in Ennis that weekend, stayed with Doora Barefield.

    After the final on Sunday, our bus stopped at a hotel on the Limerick road (I cant remember the name of it)
    and we watched the World Cup final there.

    Rip Diego .... True Legend.

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭Randy Archer


    That Belgian kit though, drool

    They have a pageant for wearing some lovely kits over the decades ,home and away. You should see their iconic road cycling jersey too. Gorgeous .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    It was against the English. They aren’t liked by everyone. The. You had thr Falklands war just prior to that (Argies started that and their dictator was a **** so they weren’t angels) but U.K. were criticised for going to war (damned if you do and damned if you don’t)
    Maybe that's it. Anything I would have heard about it would have come from an Irish perspective, so there was probably considerable schaudenfraude about the goal and the Irish really enjoyed how much it irked the Brits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,477 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Peter Shilton is rightfully taking a bashing on Twitter. He seems like such a bitter old man. And he's pro Brexit!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Peter Shilton is rightfully taking a bashing on Twitter. He seems like such a bitter old man. And he's pro Brexit!

    Oh, he's horrible.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Peter Shilton is rightfully taking a bashing on Twitter. He seems like such a bitter old man. And he's pro Brexit!

    Yeah he's not a nice man at all. Peter Reid also, two very bitter people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Pasteur.


    Nonsense

    What he achieved in a 5 year time frame for club and country was more than most footballers. Teams just to go out of their way to break his legs. He is a small enough lad in height and had little business being stuck in that. He didn’t bitch either

    Thierry Henry has managed to avoid his career from being tarnished by playing Gaelic football against Ireland in the play offs .

    Few care about the drugs. Most /all of them were not performance enhancers . Coke has never being considered to be a drug that improved a players ability in any way

    Same as George Best

    He did it all at Man U, you'd swear the way some people talk he only played a few games

    The Brits blew that hand of.god goal out of all proportion to what it was, a football incident


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    I think if you took a million football fans from all over the world and asked them what was their favorite goal from the last 50 years his second against England in 86 would win easily.

    Everything about that goal turned him from a mere mortal into a god like figure for many.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Pasteur.


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I think if you took a million football fans from all over the world and asked them what was their favorite goal from the last 50 years his second against England in 86 would win easily.

    Everything about that goal turned him from a mere mortal into a god like figure for many.

    Didn't he drag then to the final again in 1990

    He was still very influential if i recall in 94

    He must be the greatest world cup player of all time as well as the greatest player


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    Pasteur. wrote: »
    Same as George Best

    He did it all at Man U, you'd swear the way some people talk he only played a few games

    The Brits blew that hand of.god goal out of all proportion to what it was, a football incident

    I wouldn't have George Best in Maradona's league.
    Best achieved very little in the game if you ask me - in comparison with true legends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,702 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    Peter Shilton is rightfully taking a bashing on Twitter. He seems like such a bitter old man. And he's pro Brexit!
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Yeah he's not a nice man at all. Peter Reid also, two very bitter people.

    Two bitter oul bollox's because Maradona ran rings around them in front of the world. That's why. Christ lads build a bridge....

    Remember his 2nd goal against them in WC86? He opened up England's mighty defense like it was a grown man playing against toddlers.

    This is why a lot of English don't like him.

    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭SB71


    What a legend, the world of football has lost an icon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,647 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Two bitter oul bollox's because Maradona ran rings around them in front of the world. That's why. Christ lads build a bridge....

    Remember his 2nd goal against them in WC86? He opened up England's mighty defense like it was a grown man playing against toddlers.

    This is why a lot of English don't like him.

    :pac:


    Muppets. They could've at least waited a few weeks/months before dragging that s**t up again??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    I wouldn't have George Best in Maradona's league.
    Best achieved very little in the game if you ask me - in comparison with true legends.


    Yeah I am little bemused by the sudden George Best love fest. Absolutely zero comparison in my books. Knocking in 6 goals against the mighty Northampton in a 3rd Rd FA Cup game ain't doing it for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    We all know Shilton is a twat. I mean what self respecting goalie gets outjumped by someone who is 5'4. Terry Butcher is another bitter twat.

    TBF Peter Reid has always been fair in his comments. I have never heard any bitterness from him.

    Most of the English players have no issue with the game (Linekar, Barnes and Beardsley have all said "Fair ****s for getting away with it") nd moved on. Just Shilton and Butcher are the bitter twats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    It must really burn Peter Shilton up inside everytime he's asked in an interview about the 'Hand of God' goal, and the 'great injustice' of it etc..., but then also in the same conversation will be asked about 'that' 2nd goal he conceded, which is considered one of the greatest goals in soccer.

    No one else really cares about that 'Hand of God' goal anymore other than the English, who just can't forget it... Probably the same way a lot of Irish fans won't forget Thierry Henry's handball, that cost us a chance at a penalty shootout to reach the World Cup, but 11 years 7 days 17 hours & 36 minutes on, we've largely dropped the resent we still hold for it!!.
    It happened all the time in football, and will probably continue to happen (with the exception of VAR).


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    First time In my life I've truly felt sad at the death of someone I never met. An absolute icon for 2 or 3 generations.


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭Randy Archer


    seamus wrote: »
    Maybe that's it. Anything I would have heard about it would have come from an Irish perspective, so there was probably considerable schaudenfraude about the goal and the Irish really enjoyed how much it irked the Brits.

    The really funny thing about we getting our comeuppance against the French when Henry handled the ball, was that many of the English were rather sympathetic to us .

    Bit like the Eurovision back in the day. We’d give them **** all points and Britain, often no matter how crap our entry was, were good for 3-12 points to us .lol

    But seriously though, England had a great team back then and their clubs were running rampant in Europe , even the Ipswich if this world . But their fans were scumbags when abroad and Maggie Thatcher , while a formidable Statesperson (And she transformed Blighty for good and bad ,but mostly good despite what labourites will say) , had her enemies in Europe . I don’t think it was just the Irish who took pleasure with Maradona’s antics


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭mehico


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Peter Reid also,

    There was a clip on TV of somebody pointing out that if you watch the video of Diego's second goal against England, Peter Reid was runinng about 5 yards behind him for almost the length of the famous run and could not get anywhere near catching Maradona and that it looked like Reid was just trying to get a closer view of the genius.


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