Storm Clodagh - 29 November 2015

Tactical · 28-11-2015 11:40pm

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

I have to say im not a fan of naming storms this side of the atlantic.
But tomorrow beats all!!

Whoever decided to name tomorrow system should be fired from public service

The public got to submit names for storms in a joint venture between Met Eireann and the UK Met Office.

Out of interest, what irks you regarding the name?

Padster90s · 28-11-2015 11:41pm

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

I have to say im not a fan of naming storms this side of the atlantic.
But tomorrow beats all!!

Whoever decided to name tomorrow system should be fired from public service

I wouldn't agree with you there. The systems are named when they have the potential to cause disruption. Good chance of power outages tomorrow, sailings probably cancelled and trains will probably we running delayed in case of debris on the line. Roads moving slower with surface floods or fallen branches/trees. Fairly decent chance of disruption for people at a very busy time of year.

Oneiric 3 · 28-11-2015 11:44pm

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

I have to say im not a fan of naming storms this side of the atlantic.
But tomorrow beats all!!

Whoever decided to name tomorrow system should be fired from public service

Can't wait until we get to Storm Phil. Likely to pack a punch, and maybe a kick if you get on the wrong side of it.

Tactical · 28-11-2015 11:47pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

Can't wait until we get to Storm Phil. Likely to pack a punch, and maybe a kick if you get on the wrong side of it.

At the rate were running through the list this could be sooner rather than later

Padster90s · 28-11-2015 11:47pm

My bad JanuarySnowster! Took that post up wrong! Apologies! Clodagh is a step up from Barney!

Padster90s · 28-11-2015 11:50pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

Can't wait until we get to Storm Phil. Likely to pack a punch, and maybe a kick if you get on the wrong side of it.

Perhaps a Peggy for the next list?!
https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/article-1284021821719-0b197dd3000005dc-924713_636x391.jpg

pad199207 · 28-11-2015 11:52pm

Cant believe they normed this clump of cloud! We may aswell start naming showers now!

JCX BXC · 28-11-2015 11:56pm

Afaik Met Eireann and the Met Office have agreed to name any storm on Orange criteria or higher. The storm is to be strong enough over Ireland (Gusts of 130km/h are fairly strong) and even stronger over Scotland.

corsav6 · 29-11-2015 12:02am

Xenji wrote: »

Picking up now in Castlebar at the moment, some stray 75 km/hr plus gusts coming in.

Went up a few notches here in Newport in the last hour too.

JanuarySnowstor · 29-11-2015 12:02am

pad199207 wrote: »

Cant believe they normed this clump of cloud! We may aswell start naming showers now!

Totally agree it's a joke

maquiladora · 29-11-2015 12:13am

pad199207 wrote: »

Cant believe they normed this clump of cloud! We may aswell start naming showers now!

Well they are forecasting gusts of up to 130km/h and the criteria for naming a low is "Names will be assigned based on the potential for a disruptive event". So given the forecast gusts are at the threshold of a red warning, they have no choice other than to name it, otherwise what is the point of the system at all?

JanuarySnowstor · 29-11-2015 12:15am

maquiladora wrote: »

Well they are forecasting gusts of up to 130km/h and the criteria for naming a low is "Names will be assigned based on the potential for a disruptive event". So given the forecast gusts are at the threshold of a red warning, they have no choice other than to name it, otherwise what is the point of the system at all?

A red warning maq?
It's not even a low pressure system
It's over hyped and it shouldn't have a name imo

FWVT · 29-11-2015 12:19am

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

A red warning maq?
It's not even a low pressure system
It's over hyped and it shouldn't have a name imo

It's still only developing way out to sea. Tonight's wind is not it. It will only arrive in the early morning.

Oscar Bravo · 29-11-2015 12:20am

2300 reports Kinsale gusting 54 knots, Mace head 46 knots. other than that its a cold windy showery night....

maquiladora · 29-11-2015 12:27am

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

A red warning maq?
It's not even a low pressure system
It's over hyped and it shouldn't have a name imo

It is a low pressure system. Central pressure of 978mb seen here over Scotland.

Criteria for a red warning is

Mean Speeds in excess of 80 km/h
Gusts Speeds in excess of 130 km/h

18Z HIRLAM shows mean winds touching 85 km/h on the northwest coast and the Met Eireann warning calls for gusts up to 130 km/h. So that is right at the threshold of the red warning criteria, even if it's only briefly and restricted to the northwest coast.

I haven't seen any hype but then again I don't follow the media for weather information so I've no idea what is being reported. But based on the official forecasts it wouldn't make any sense for it not to be named. Barney was named at a time when gusts were forecast to be up to 120 km/h.

pauldry · 29-11-2015 12:28am

Shower Jamie just has hit Castlebar with rain of up to 3mm. Shower Kerrie is due at midnight . .purple warning alert

FWVT · 29-11-2015 12:44am

The 23Z TAFs show little change from those issued at 17Z. Dublin's max gust forecast has gone up 2 knots from 50 to 52 knots, however Shannon, Cork and Knock are still unchanged on 50 knots.

Wind warnings issued for the airports:

Dublin EIDW AD WRNG 02 VALID 290630/291500 SFC WIND WSW 25-30KT MAX 40-45 BECMG 2909/2911 WSW 30-35 MAX 50-55 BECMG 2913/2915 W 20-25 MAX 35-40 FCST =

Knock EIKN AD WRNG 02 VALID 290500/291400 SFC WIND WSW 25-30KT MAX 40-45 BECMG 2907/2909 WSW 30-35 MAX 50-55 BECMG 2910/2912 W 20-25 MAX 35-40 =

Cork EICK AD WRNG 02 VALID 290500/291500 SFC WIND WSW 25-30KT MAX 40-45 BECMG 2906/2908 W 25-30 MAX 45-50 =

Shannon EINN AD WRNG 02 VALID 290230/291400 SFC WIND WSW 25-30KT MAX 40-45 BECMG 2904/2906 WSW 30-35 MAX 50-55 BECMG 2912/2914 W 20-25 MAX 35-40 FCST =

FWVT · 29-11-2015 12:51am

9-hr TAFs for the regionals:

SLIGO TAF EISG 282300Z 2900/2909 26018G30KT 9999 SCT018 BKN025 TEMPO 2900/2902 5000 -RA BKN013 BECMG 2900/2902 23013KT TEMPO 2902/2909 4000 RA BKN010 BECMG 2903/2905 22015G27KT BECMG 2905/2907 22025G40KT TEMPO 2907/2909 23030G47KT=

WATERFORD TAF EIWF 282300Z 2900/2909 27016G27KT 9999 SCT018 BKN030 BECMG 2902/2905 25020G32KT TEMPO 2903/2909 5000 -RA BKN013 BECMG 2905/2907 26025G40KT TEMPO 2907/2909 26030G45KT=

CASEMENT TAF EIME 282300Z 2900/2909 24020G33KT 9999 SCT018 BKN030 PROB30 TEMPO 2902/2904 5000 -RA BKN015 TEMPO 2904/2909 4000 RA BKN010 BECMG 2905/2907 24025G40KT BECMG 2907/2909 25028G45KT=

ninebeanrows · 29-11-2015 12:52am

My best guidance showed 57 Dub Air, 60 Casement... Forget other sites! Finner could grab the 70 if I recall, but no data to hand now!

Was showing widespread 60-70knots in northwest, obviously many 70s grid points on higher terrain

Oscar Bravo · 29-11-2015 12:55am

its five to midnight, which means its met eireann time on rte radio 1 , tonight it should be john eagleton

squarecircles · 29-11-2015 1:02am

I don't think the storm has been over hyped,it wasn't even mentioned on the main evening news.

bnt · 29-11-2015 1:04am

I was wondering whether the Jetstream was involved, and it certainly appears to be the case. At 18Z the highest wind speeds were over 150 kts and pointing at Ireland.

JCX BXC · 29-11-2015 1:10am

Transatlantic flights should be in quite early.

Reckless Abandonment · 29-11-2015 1:15am

Don't see the point in naming a storm that's going to hit us in in 12/24 hours. A hurricane that's heading for the east coast in 3/4 days and people need warning yeah, but "storm clodagh just sent your trampoline nextdoor " what's the point.

FWVT · 29-11-2015 1:17am

Mace Head's average mean wind has been 31 knots throughout Saturday, midnight to midnight. It ranged from 27 - 43 knots. Max gust was 56 knots.

JCX BXC · 29-11-2015 1:25am

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

Don't see the point in naming a storm that's going to hit us in in 12/24 hours. A hurricane that's heading for the east coast in 3/4 days and people need warning yeah, but "storm clodagh just sent your trampoline nextdoor " what's the point.

It's often hard to pinpoint the power of a storm 3-4 days previous. You cant ask them to do something they can't do.

Remember storm Rachel? Red alert issued, schools shut, everyone well informed. Wasnt much of an event and Met Eireann got well abused for it.

squarecircles · 29-11-2015 1:26am

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

Don't see the point in naming a storm that's going to hit us in in 12/24 hours. A hurricane that's heading for the east coast in 3/4 days and people need warning yeah, but "storm clodagh just sent your trampoline nextdoor " what's the point.

Or heaven forbid,downed tree storm clodagh crushes car,that's the point. Naming the storm makes it more prominent in people's mind etc etc

Pangea · 29-11-2015 2:12am

Great idea naming them, handy for reference and being able to think back whichstorm came first just by thinking of the alphabetical order. Wind picking up here in Donegal.

marno21 · 29-11-2015 3:24am

Starting to get rough here now in North West Cork

Tactical · 29-11-2015 4:02am

http://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2015/1128/749875-weather/

maquiladora wrote: »

It is a low pressure system. Central pressure of 978mb seen here over Scotland.

I haven't seen any hype but then again I don't follow the media for weather information so I've no idea what is being reported. But based on the official forecasts it wouldn't make any sense for it not to be named. Barney was named at a time when gusts were forecast to be up to 120 km/h.

Tactical · 29-11-2015 4:06am

http://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2015/1128/749875-weather/

squarecircles wrote: »

I don't think the storm has been over hyped,it wasn't even mentioned on the evening news.

Whilst not mentioned on the 21:30 news, it has already received some press coverage with advice from a local authority.

squarecircles · 29-11-2015 4:09am

The Wind is steadily increasing here on the west coast,with the ominous moaning/creaking noises (from outside,not my bedroom btw)

Tactical · 29-11-2015 4:17am

Shower here currently (03:00) in West Limerick with wind that was strong enoigh to wake me.

Ok, I'm a little bit excited at the thought if a wind event as I love weather that's a little challenging, but generally I'd sleep next to a pneumatic drill. Maybe it's the impending wind that has me subconsciously alert.

Interesting to read the comments and discussion regarding naming storms. My own personal feeling is that if it alerts the public to be aware and it is felt that naming an impending event is a way to help achieve awareness then I'm all in favour of the action.

During Barney there were numerous trees downed blocking public roads in Co. Limerick and I witnessed a sheet of corrugated iron fly from a cow shed. If the naming idea help people be more alert whilst out then it has merit.

DOCARCH · 29-11-2015 7:21am

Not much to report in relation to Clodagh this morning, but then again, the Eagle on the sea area forecast on Radio 1 at 0600, said the storm centre is still approx. 1000km away (but will approach very quickly).

Mace Head reporting 72kmh, gusting 102kmh at 0600.

FWVT · 29-11-2015 7:32am

Mace Head live wind display. 10 m/s = 19.4 knots = 36.0 kph

FWVT · 29-11-2015 7:41am

Regional TAFS.

DONEGAL TAF EIDL 290500Z 2906/2915 22017G28KT 9999 SCT018 BKN028 BECMG 2906/2908 23030G45KT TEMPO 2906/2910 4000 RA BKN010 TEMPO 2908/2911 23038G55KT BECMG 2910/2912 28027G43KT TEMPO 2910/2915 4000 SHRA SCT010 SCT018CB TEMPO 2912/2915 28030G48KT =

KERRY TAF EIKY 290500Z 2906/2915 25027G42KT 9999 SCT018 BKN030 TEMPO 2906/2911 25033G50KT TEMPO 2906/2914 5000 RA BKN012 BECMG 2913/2915 26017G28KT=

SLIGO TAF EISG 290500Z 2906/2915 22016G27KT 9999 SCT018 BKN028 BECMG 2906/2907 22025G42KT TEMPO 2906/2910 4000 RA BKN010 TEMPO 2907/2910 23030G47KT BECMG 2909/2911 28027G43KT TEMPO 2910/2915 5000 SHRA SCT010 SCT018CB BECMG 2913/2915 28022G38KT =

WATERFORD TAF EIWF 290500Z 2906/2915 25018G30KT 9999 SCT017 BKN030 BECMG 2906/2908 26025G42KT TEMPO 2906/2910 5000 -RA SCT008 BKN013 TEMPO 2908/2913 27032G48KT TEMPO 2910/2914 4000 RA BKN008 BECMG 2913/2915 29025G40KT=

Donegal and Sligo METAR will be interesting to watch. See them live here

http://www.dawn-it.com/met/

FWVT · 29-11-2015 8:15am

7 am.

Mace Head 37 gust 56 kts
Belmullet 36 gust 53 kts

Oscar Bravo · 29-11-2015 8:16am

Getting stormy now here in Castlebar with heavy rain and a recent lightning strike in the belmullet area

Tactical · 29-11-2015 8:18am

Typical wet and windy morning here in West Limerick so far.

Looking forward to things ramping up

maquiladora · 29-11-2015 8:33am

Strongest gusts should be confined to the northwest, sometime between around 9-11am. It should pick up rapidly and drop off very quickly.

For areas further south it'll probably be wore windy than stormy. Not as strong as Barney.

_Whimsical_ · 29-11-2015 8:54am

Very stormy in Galway city right now. The wind has just woken me up.

ZX7R · 29-11-2015 8:58am

Not looking forward to travelling to work this morning, my motorbike is the transportation I will be using.

FWVT · 29-11-2015 9:00am

maquiladora wrote: »

Strongest gusts should be confined to the northwest, sometime between around 9-11am. It should pick up rapidly and drop off very quickly.

For areas further south it'll probably be wore windy than stormy. Not as strong as Barney.

Meanwhile the 2km WRF has much lower max gusts. Seems a bit too low.

FWVT · 29-11-2015 9:12am

Mace Head 46 gust 61 kts at 8 am

maquiladora · 29-11-2015 9:19am

FWVT wrote: »

Meanwhile the 2km WRF has much lower max gusts. Seems a bit too low.

Probably because the parent model, GFS, doesn't seem to have the resolution to handle these type of small depressions very well.

vs.

maquiladora · 29-11-2015 9:30am

M4 buoy is 986 at 8am, so the depression is either a little deeper or a little further south than the ARPEGE posted above.

Tactical · 29-11-2015 9:32am

West Limerick

0830

Sustained 33km/h
Gust 47km/h
Westerly
Dry

Similar conditions to Barney in relation to wind speeds and direction. More overcast though and the ground is waterlogged with water lying in fields at lower elevations.

DOCARCH · 29-11-2015 9:44am

FWVT wrote: »

Mace Head 46 gust 61 kts at 8 am

Or...85kmh to 113kmh...in new money.

Meets criteria for orange warning for that location at least. In fact a mean speed in excess of 80kmh should actually be a red warning.

Tactical · 29-11-2015 9:46am

Somewhere in the region of 1150 premises currently without mains electricity supply.

maquiladora · 29-11-2015 9:48am

DOCARCH wrote: »

Or...85kmh to 113kmh...in new money.

Meets criteria for orange warning for that location at least. In fact a mean speed in excess of 80kmh should actually be a red warning.

Red warning requires gusts to be >130 km/h in addition to mean winds >80 km/h.

Storm Clodagh - 29 November 2015

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