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Munster Team Talk Thread - Snymans are(n't) Forever

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    #3392
    Eod100
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    Imagine.. https://twitter.com/zuroph/status/1242410485171073030?s=19


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    #3393
    Brief_Lives
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    Tyler better not get injured staying away from everyone.... Garryowen need him now...


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    #3394
    Caranica
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    Brief_Lives wrote: »
    Tyler better not get injured staying away from everyone.... Garryowen need him now...

    AIL season cancelled?


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    #3395
    Brief_Lives
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    More a commentary on how inhured he gets, walking to the kitchen...


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    #3396
    The Lost Sheep
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    Supporters club been running poll on best team of pro era
    15 Zebo
    14 Dougie
    13 Tipoki
    12 Mafi
    11 Earls
    10 ROG
    9 Stringer
    8 Axel
    7 David Wallace
    6 POM
    5 POC
    4 DOC
    3 John Hayes
    2 Fla
    1 Claw

    Bench votes still to come.


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    #3397
    Caranica
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    Worth pointing out there were no votes for 7,8 or 10. Not saying there should have been, though would have been interesting to see the vote breakdown for 8.


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    #3398
    The Lost Sheep
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    Caranica wrote: »
    Worth pointing out there were no votes for 7,8 or 10. Not saying there should have been, though would have been interesting to see the vote breakdown for 8.
    meant to add that. Would have been interesting to see that breakdown all right


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    #3399
    aloooof
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    Three Red Kings with a really nice gesture at the moment:

    https://twitter.com/threeredkings/status/1247253243559923716


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    #3400
    Buer
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    Caranica wrote: »
    Worth pointing out there were no votes for 7,8 or 10. Not saying there should have been, though would have been interesting to see the vote breakdown for 8.

    Does that mean Wallace, Foley and ROG were put into the team automatically?

    I understand that status afforded to Foley given the circumstances but, on the basis of best team of the professional era, there's absolutely a discussion to be had regarding Leamy in the 8 jersey. I expect Foley would still get the nod but the bloke who replaced him at 8 for both province and country is probably worth having in the mix. Quinlan was MOTM in the 2008 final but I recall Leamy being absolutely brilliant that day.

    Leamy was an absolute pig of a player. I'd say teams hated facing him given his aggression levels. Weird to see him in the Leinster set up these days.


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    #3401
    Panda Killa
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    Buer wrote: »
    Does that mean Wallace, Foley and ROG were put into the team automatically?

    I understand that status afforded to Foley given the circumstances but, on the basis of best team of the professional era, there's absolutely a discussion to be had regarding Leamy in the 8 jersey. I expect Foley would still get the nod but the bloke who replaced him at 8 for both province and country is probably worth having in the mix. Quinlan was MOTM in the 2008 final but I recall Leamy being absolutely brilliant that day.

    Leamy was an absolute pig of a player. I'd say teams hated facing him given his aggression levels. Weird to see him in the Leinster set up these days.

    Leamy was in the mix for six...POM win by a landslide... couldn't have him in for 3 positions


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    #3402
    Cookiemunster
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    Buer wrote: »
    Does that mean Wallace, Foley and ROG were put into the team automatically?

    I understand that status afforded to Foley given the circumstances but, on the basis of best team of the professional era, there's absolutely a discussion to be had regarding Leamy in the 8 jersey. I expect Foley would still get the nod but the bloke who replaced him at 8 for both province and country is probably worth having in the mix. Quinlan was MOTM in the 2008 final but I recall Leamy being absolutely brilliant that day.

    Leamy was an absolute pig of a player. I'd say teams hated facing him given his aggression levels. Weird to see him in the Leinster set up these days.


    In fairness it's a bit of fun twitter poll being run by the supporters club. It's not a definitive list.


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    #3403
    Caranica
    Registered Users Posts: 10,019 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Cookiemunster wrote: »
    In fairness it's a bit of fun twitter poll being run by the supporters club. It's not a definitive list.

    No definitive list would have Zebo at 15. I think there was a lot of heart over head voting.


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    #3404
    Former Former
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    Caranica wrote: »
    No definitive list would have Zebo at 15. I think there was a lot of heart over head voting.

    While Zebo isn't an all time great, I'm struggling to think of someone better. Warwick, Hurley, Crotty, Payne... All grand players but no standout. Even Christian Cullen couldn't make an impact from the Munster 15 shirt.


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    #3405
    Boscoirl
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    Scandalous that Brian Lima isnt in that team


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    #3406
    aloooof
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    Former Former wrote: »
    While Zebo isn't an all time great, I'm struggling to think of someone better. Warwick, Hurley, Crotty, Payne... All grand players but no standout. Even Christian Cullen couldn't make an impact from the Munster 15 shirt.

    Felix Jones deserves a shout too.


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    #3407
    thomond2006
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    Zebo has to be in any all time XV. With Earls and Howlett certs on the wing Zebo goes to 15 though his appearances there for Munster were rare.


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    #3408
    aloooof
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Zebo has to be in any all time XV. With Earls and Howlett certs on the wing Zebo goes to 15 though his appearances there for Munster were rare.

    Agreed, he's our top try scorer, tho Earls is getting close. I love a stat so had a quick look at Zebo's 144 total appearances:
    - 78 starts at 11
    - 48 starts at 15
    - 18 appearances off the bench


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    #3409
    Panda Killa
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    aloooof wrote: »
    Felix Jones deserves a shout too.

    "I approve of this post"


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    #3410
    phog
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    Caranica wrote: »
    No definitive list would have Zebo at 15. I think there was a lot of heart over head voting.

    or maybe the fact he's one of our top try scorers?


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    #3411
    Caranica
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    phog wrote: »
    or maybe the fact he's one of our top try scorers?

    Full back isn't primarily about try scoring though. It's about defence, particularly under high balls.


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    #3412
    Brief_Lives
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    Leamy has to be in our all time back row... he was an utter animal and absolutely mental....


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    #3413
    Cookiemunster
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    Caranica wrote: »
    Full back isn't primarily about try scoring though. It's about defence, particularly under high balls.

    Again, who cares? It's a bit of fun internet poll. No need to be going into analysis mode.


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    #3414
    Buer
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    Caranica wrote: »
    Full back isn't primarily about try scoring though. It's about defence, particularly under high balls.

    I don't think Zebo had any issues under the high ball. General defence, he wasn't exceptional but he wasn't a notably poor defender either. He would be a very notable absentee if he wasn't in the team.

    I'm surprised how quickly Shaun Payne appears to have been dismissed. Incredibly committed and consistent performer for Munster.

    Jones was probably the best out and out full back though. His profile probably suffered by being purely a fullback and therefore not really getting a look in for Ireland as much as he deserved (with injury obviously playing a massive part too).


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    #3415
    Buer
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    Cookiemunster wrote: »
    Again, who cares? It's a bit of fun internet poll. No need to be going into analysis mode.

    Indeed. If someone wants to go into detail, they should go to some sort of discussion forum and even then would have to seek out a section or even a thread dedicated to Munster.


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    #3416
    Cookiemunster
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    https://twitter.com/ChampionsCup/status/1247525185927831560


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    #3417
    Cookiemunster
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    Buer wrote: »
    Indeed. If someone wants to go into detail, they should go to some sort of discussion forum and even then would have to seek out a section or even a thread dedicated to Munster.

    Well if you want to discuss something that has meaning then fair enough. But how fans vote in an internet poll?

    And nobody has forgotten about Shaun Payne. He came second to Zebo in said poll.


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    #3418
    Richie_Rich89
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    Brief_Lives wrote: »
    Leamy has to be in our all time back row... he was an utter animal and absolutely mental....

    Yeah, think he'd be ahead of Foley at 8 and O'Mahony at 6. He played pretty well in one of those tests down in NZ in 2006.

    Suppose O'Mahony captained the Lions, but he got dumped after the first test like Ben Te'o. Just too many holes in his game.


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    #3419
    Buer
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    Brief_Lives wrote: »
    Leamy has to be in our all time back row... he was an utter animal and absolutely mental....

    And in that description lies his biggest strength and greatest weakness. If he didn't have someone keeping him on his leash, he'd lose the head. In his younger days, he carried out some borderline GBH on the pitch. I think it was against Old Belvedere in the AIL when he copped a month suspension for kneeing a prone player in the face which wasn't his first suspension. He had previously missed the U21 RWC due to a suspension in the AIL also. This was the turn of the century when you'd need to do something pretty bad to cop a ban in the Celtic League let alone the AIL!

    Fortunately, with Munster and Ireland, he had guys like Foley and POC in his ear. Along with Kidney they managed to harness that aggression into fantastic performances. Even that couldn't do the trick always though! One of the funniest moments was when a referee called POC and Leamy over and, when Leamy started mouthing off, the referee asked him if he wanted to lose 10m. Leamy instantly blurted out "Yes!". I don't think I'll ever forget the expression on POC's face as the referee marched them back.


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    #3420
    Richie_Rich89
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    Buer wrote: »
    And in that description lies his biggest strength and greatest weakness. If he didn't have someone keeping him on his leash, he'd lose the head. In his younger days, he carried out some borderline GBH on the pitch. I think it was against Old Belvedere in the AIL when he copped a month suspension for kneeing a prone player in the face which wasn't his first suspension. He had previously missed the U21 RWC due to a suspension in the AIL also. This was the turn of the century when you'd need to do something pretty bad to cop a ban in the Celtic League let alone the AIL!

    Fortunately, with Munster and Ireland, he had guys like Foley and POC in his ear. Along with Kidney they managed to harness that aggression into fantastic performances. Even that couldn't do the trick always though! One of the funniest moments was when a referee called POC and Leamy over and, when Leamy started mouthing off, the referee asked him if he wanted to lose 10m. Leamy instantly blurted out "Yes!". I don't think I'll ever forget the expression on POC's face as the referee marched them back.

    I happened to be reading his wikipedia page recently. There are numerous references to him being cited or banned after "incidents" without any explanation of what these incidents were.


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    #3421
    The Lost Sheep
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    Buer wrote: »
    And in that description lies his biggest strength and greatest weakness. If he didn't have someone keeping him on his leash, he'd lose the head. In his younger days, he carried out some borderline GBH on the pitch. I think it was against Old Belvedere in the AIL when he copped a month suspension for kneeing a prone player in the face which wasn't his first suspension. He had previously missed the U21 RWC due to a suspension in the AIL also. This was the turn of the century when you'd need to do something pretty bad to cop a ban in the Celtic League let alone the AIL!

    Fortunately, with Munster and Ireland, he had guys like Foley and POC in his ear. Along with Kidney they managed to harness that aggression into fantastic performances. Even that couldn't do the trick always though! One of the funniest moments was when a referee called POC and Leamy over and, when Leamy started mouthing off, the referee asked him if he wanted to lose 10m. Leamy instantly blurted out "Yes!". I don't think I'll ever forget the expression on POC's face as the referee marched them back.
    and hasn't changed since becoming a coach from what I've seen between cashel, garryowen and elsewhere


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