The Jumpers are Coming 2019/2020

IAMAMORON · 13-11-2019 4:53pm

lemush wrote: »

Couldn't back Douvan with fake money off that layoff with the way Mullins have been finishing on their first runs.

Will hack up at 13/2 after drifting all morning and Willie tells every journalist he speaks to that the horse is fine to run " but should improve for it ".

RivetingRoger · 13-11-2019 4:53pm

Where are you seeing 9/4 for Douvan tomorrow Aidan??

lemush · 13-11-2019 4:54pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Sounds too funny to be true, please post a link.

Was doing the rounds on WhatsApp couple months back, I'm still scarred.

IAMAMORON · 13-11-2019 5:03pm

lemush wrote: »

Was doing the rounds on WhatsApp couple months back, I'm still scarred.

It sounds like textbook cocaine abuse if you look at it straight on. Mix the marching powder and a rake a booze and the clothes can come off at any anytime really. I will racially abuse anything if I am naked enough. I could be pulling mooners from the roundabout outside Castleisland and giving the Gards the finger at that stage.

Poor Fella, where did it all go wrong? He was training Gold Cup winners a few years ago.

Be careful out there good people of Ireland.

RivetingRoger · 13-11-2019 5:16pm

The morning of the GC the year Coneygree won it they had Culloty on the morning line, he was sitting in a cafe eating his breakfast. A big **** off plate of beans mushrooms and toast
I knew there and then that he was a lunatic! And i was right!!

lemush · 13-11-2019 5:43pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

It sounds like textbook cocaine abuse if you look at it straight on. Mix the marching powder and a rake a booze and the clothes can come off at any anytime really. I will racially abuse anything if I am naked enough. I could be pulling mooners from the roundabout outside Castleisland and giving the Gards the finger at that stage.

Poor Fella, where did it all go wrong? He was training Gold Cup winners a few years ago.

Be careful out there good people of Ireland.

Sounds like a good night if you ask me

longshotvalue · 13-11-2019 6:21pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Where are you seeing 9/4 for Douvan tomorrow Aidan??

Gone will hill are now 15/8

RivetingRoger · 13-11-2019 8:02pm

aidankkk wrote: »

Gone will hill are now 15/8

6/4 PP

RivetingRoger · 13-11-2019 8:03pm

Shattered love money on is baffling.
Might have a bit of Listen Dear over a fence

madmoose · 13-11-2019 8:43pm

Brewinupastorm at taunton tomorrow, the 14/1 any race for cheltemham will be long gone tomorrow when he wins that.

lemush · 13-11-2019 9:04pm

madmoose wrote: »

Brewinupastorm at taunton tomorrow, the 14/1 any race for cheltemham will be long gone tomorrow when he wins that.

You'd be hoping they don't cut him considering he only has one to beat. Track won't be ideal can see him getting a tad outpaced around there but should still be too good.

BoldReason · 13-11-2019 9:31pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Shattered love money on is baffling.
Might have a bit of Listen Dear over a fence

Where you seeing money on. Bet365 are 6/4 and most others 5/4 thought it was fair enough back against her own sex to me. Granted a mares listed chase not particularly something I'd want to be having a bet in.

IAMAMORON · 13-11-2019 9:32pm

I doubt the Nicholls horse is any pushover.

BoldReason · 13-11-2019 9:38pm

Thought they were kind of dismissing the other 3 in the race in the clonmel oil. Both the front 2 have a bit to prove if you ask me. Douvan off 500 odd days and didn't really seem the type that wants 2 and a half to me. Granted if back to his best he'd win this by a fence. But that's a massive if. Monalee was pretty disappointing Last season.

You can be fairly sure Peregrine Run will run to mid 150s and its a fair level if the other 2 under perform. Also I think Tout Et Permis will come on massively for the run and I think he seems the type that would enjoy clonmel.
Not sure I'll have a bet but I think id rather bet those 2 at 8/1 +

Justin10 · 13-11-2019 10:10pm

Probably a stupid question, but why is Douvan and Peregrine run getting weight to Monalee?

BoldReason · 13-11-2019 10:25pm

There is 3lb, 5lb and 7lb penalties for grade 3 (or 3 chase wins), grade 2(or 2 grade 3s) and grade 1 winners respectively. From May 2018.

lemush · 13-11-2019 10:34pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I doubt the Nicholls horse is any pushover.

Wouldn't be surprised if he turned over Brewinupastorm around that track. Everything is in the Nicholls horse favour.

BumperD · 15-11-2019 2:00am

Tiger roll out until spring time

RivetingRoger · 15-11-2019 10:03am

Opinions please lads
Rich Ricci's big 3 back in the day
Douvan, Faugheen, Vautour
If you had to say who was best, second best, third on their day
I get that people will say "Hurdler, 2 miler, mid distance stayer etc etc, look its just to gauge opinions
if you don't like the question, ignore it.

For me
1. Vautour
2. Faugheen
3. Douvan

Anyone care to hazard a go?

IAMAMORON · 15-11-2019 1:08pm

I like chasers so I would have to say Vautour.

But none of them would have touched Limestone Lad or Denman. Ever.

RivetingRoger · 15-11-2019 1:14pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I like chasers so I would have to say Vautour.

But none of them would have touched Limestone Lad or Denman. Ever.

I love Denman, so I won't pit them against each other

lemush · 17-11-2019 10:53pm

Melon going up in trip according to WP.

Slattsy · 17-11-2019 11:14pm

lemush wrote: »

Melon going up in trip according to WP.

Who've they got for the Arkle?

madmoose · 17-11-2019 11:34pm

Slattsy wrote: »

Who've they got for the Arkle?

Laurina

lemush · 17-11-2019 11:52pm

Laurina prob runs on Thursday along with Footpad who's also going up in trip. If not Thurs Laurina runs in Gowran at the weekend.

Slattsy · 17-11-2019 11:59pm

Balls deep on her so!

Motivator · 18-11-2019 1:05am

lemush wrote: »

Melon going up in trip according to WP.

This biggest hyped up dog I’ve ever seen come out of Closutton. For those that are interested they can trawl back through my posts from almost three years back when I shat all over this horse, and his reputation, from way out. He never looked like a superstar and three years later he still doesn’t look like one. I can’t have his champion hurdle second and I can guarantee he will never get close to the top level over fences. Melon is a dog of a horse and nothing will ever convince me that he isn’t.

lemush · 18-11-2019 1:13am

Motivator wrote: »

This biggest hyped up dog I’ve ever seen come out of Closutton. For those that are interested they can trawl back through my posts from almost three years back when I shat all over this horse, and his reputation, from way out. He never looked like a superstar and three years later he still doesn’t look like one. I can’t have his champion hurdle second and I can guarantee he will never get close to the top level over fences. Melon is a dog of a horse and nothing will ever convince me that he isn’t.

I've said much the same here, he's not a dog but he is a level below the top tier, 3 wins in 19 sums him up. His Irish record consists of a maiden hurdle and as bad a grade 2 as you'd ever see.

IAMAMORON · 18-11-2019 12:15pm

lemush wrote: »

I've said much the same here, he's not a dog but he is a level below the top tier, 3 wins in 19 sums him up. His Irish record consists of a maiden hurdle and as bad a grade 2 as you'd ever see.

He is essentially a touch out of his depth in grade 1 races. He is possibly a victims of his owners' ambitions maybe? I have seen plenty of decent listed hurdlers fecked around with over the years. If Melon was in another yard he could be one of their best horses.

He has probably just been campaigned poorly, but what can you do with highly rated hurdlers? He has been placed three times in Grade 1 Cheltenham hurdles, that hardly makes him a PIG or anything.

If he was in a smaller yard he could easily have won a few decent handicap hurdles at this stage, what do you do? He is just a few lengths off being a superstar, it is a tough game.

I mightn't be Closutton's biggest fan, but I genuinely hope he turns into being a super chaser for them, it could be the making of him. He has been turned out every time against the very best, he deserves a change of luck. Good luck to him and connections.

Daraa · 18-11-2019 12:32pm

In other news Annamix might get a run tomorrow.

https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/182/fairyhouse/2019-11-19/745209/

Morgans · 18-11-2019 5:03pm

Motivator wrote: »

This biggest hyped up dog I’ve ever seen come out of Closutton. For those that are interested they can trawl back through my posts from almost three years back when I shat all over this horse, and his reputation, from way out. He never looked like a superstar and three years later he still doesn’t look like one. I can’t have his champion hurdle second and I can guarantee he will never get close to the top level over fences. Melon is a dog of a horse and nothing will ever convince me that he isn’t.

Wouldnt hold much hope for him over fences but your post seemed to suggest that you were in the right to "shat all over the horse". You weren't. Those who thought three years ago that he would be good enough to place in a champion hurdle were right. While you "can't have his champion hurdle second", its in the book.

I told you he was **** if you ignore all his grade 1 performances.

Morgans · 18-11-2019 5:08pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Opinions please lads
Rich Ricci's big 3 back in the day
Douvan, Faugheen, Vautour
If you had to say who was best, second best, third on their day
I get that people will say "Hurdler, 2 miler, mid distance stayer etc etc, look its just to gauge opinions
if you don't like the question, ignore it.

For me
1. Vautour
2. Faugheen
3. Douvan

Anyone care to hazard a go?

All statements from the Mullins' camp was that Douvan was the best they have ever trained. Injuries and premature deaths make it virtually impossible to state conclusively one way or the other. Douvan probably the best, but Vautour's cheltenham wins were spectacular.

yaboya1 · 18-11-2019 6:28pm

Morgans wrote: »

All statements from the Mullins' camp was that Douvan was the best they have ever trained. Injuries and premature deaths make it virtually impossible to state conclusively one way or the other. Douvan probably the best, but Vautour's cheltenham wins were spectacular.

Yet Faugheen actually achieved the most.

Slattsy · 18-11-2019 6:37pm

Thought Tanworth was pretty impressive the other day. Tiger Roll out until Cheltenham, I wonder if there's a chance he might not make it and the 15/2 could be worth risking. Tanworth a better animal than TR faced at Cheltenham before.

Even if TR makes Cheltenham the 15/2 will still be decent IMHO.

Morgans · 18-11-2019 8:13pm

yaboya1 wrote: »

Yet Faugheen actually achieved the most.

Never really a natural hurdler but had so much talent that it didnt always matter.

famagusta · 18-11-2019 8:39pm

Slattsy wrote:

Thought Tanworth was pretty impressive the other day. Tiger Roll out until Cheltenham, I wonder if there's a chance he might not make it and the 15/2 could be worth risking. Tanworth a better animal than TR faced at Cheltenham before.

TRs issue is only small, routine op, no big deal, I'd be surprised if he didn't make it.

antietam · 18-11-2019 11:35pm

How bad is bad based on fact. results tell the truth.

BumperD · 19-11-2019 12:12am

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/supreme-novices-contender-malone-road-sidelined-for-the-season/409812

Someone mentioned Malone road out for season I think few days back confirmed here

WicklowBravee · 19-11-2019 12:51am

Got to be a chance Envoi Allen ends up in the Champion Hurdle. If he's as good as they think he is and the owner wouldn't have any fear of it. He's going chasing next year anyway so makes no difference. I wouldn't fear anything with him.

redzerdrog · 19-11-2019 9:44am

WicklowBravee wrote: »

Got to be a chance Envoi Allen ends up in the Champion Hurdle. If he's as good as they think he is and the owner wouldn't have any fear of it. He's going chasing next year anyway so makes no difference. I wouldn't fear anything with him.

I'd say there is next to zero chance of that happening

NaiveMelodies · 19-11-2019 11:27am

redzerdrog wrote: »

I'd say there is next to zero chance of that happening

Less than zero I'd say.

Slattsy · 19-11-2019 11:51am

WicklowBravee wrote: »

Got to be a chance Envoi Allen ends up in the Champion Hurdle. If he's as good as they think he is and the owner wouldn't have any fear of it. He's going chasing next year anyway so makes no difference. I wouldn't fear anything with him.

Wecome back

maximo31 · 19-11-2019 12:21pm

maximo31 wrote: »

Heard that Malone Road might be out for the season. Not sure how reliable the source is though. Envoi Allen surely shorten up for the Supreme if true. Took a little of the 14's that's available.

Confirmed?

Morgans · 19-11-2019 1:04pm

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

Less than zero I'd say.

Tom Segal gave the Envoi Allen to Champion Hurdle an airing in the latest Racing Post Cast. Unlikely but stranger things have happened. Its a very weak field at the moment.

Andrew00 · 19-11-2019 1:13pm

Will Bristol de mai win on Saturday lads

WicklowBravee · 19-11-2019 1:16pm

Slattsy wrote: »

Wecome back

Thank you, sir.

WicklowBravee · 19-11-2019 1:17pm

Things with less than zero chance of happening:

Saldier winning the Champion Hurdle.

WicklowBravee · 19-11-2019 1:18pm

Motivator wrote: »

This biggest hyped up dog I’ve ever seen come out of Closutton. For those that are interested they can trawl back through my posts from almost three years back when I shat all over this horse, and his reputation, from way out. He never looked like a superstar and three years later he still doesn’t look like one. I can’t have his champion hurdle second and I can guarantee he will never get close to the top level over fences. Melon is a dog of a horse and nothing will ever convince me that he isn’t.

Motivator, tell us how you really feel about the horse.

akelly02 · 19-11-2019 1:34pm

Andrew00 wrote: »

Will Bristol de mai win on Saturday lads

Lostintranslation to announce himself on the big stage on saturday, then goes on to win the king george .

akelly02 · 19-11-2019 1:35pm

WicklowBravee wrote: »

Things with less than zero chance of happening:

Saldier winning the Champion Hurdle.

Is this the real wickla as roger would say

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