The 2020 U.S. Election Irregularities.

Dohnjoe wrote: »

They are still counting the final votes, but it's a formality at this stage. There will be recounts, but we know from basic maths and election history that it's highly unlikely for a deficit of e.g. 10k votes to be flipped, and even more unlikely for that to happen across multiple states - the modern vote counting process is pretty vigorous

If you can't grasp this concept (or don't want to) go look up the betting odds for Trump winning the election right now

Its not that. Its the claim that thousands of votes were illegally cast after the day of the election when the results flipped towards Biden. If they were to be overturned then entire States would flip.

I'm not saying its true but I listened to Guilianni and that seemed to be their main line of attack.

According to Rudy the State Legislature says that ballots cannot be cast after polling closes. Sounds quite normal to us here on this side of the Pond but America's a strange place.

Have you got that Schmedlab UPS guy's recording?

DohnJoe what do you make of the late ballot claim? That thousands of ballots arrived at polling stations after polls had closed?

To be fair to Enno, the MSM and facts often are at odds with one another. A healthy dose of skepticism is not a bad thing.

King Mob wrote: »

Do you think that it's plausible that all media outlets (specifically the ones who have called the election for Biden) are involved in a conspiracy together against Trump?

Conspiracy is a very strong word but if the last 4 years are owt to go by, they sure don't like him.

Dohnjoe wrote: »

We can't rule out a baseless claim? Yes we can. It can be ruled out immediately - what can be assumed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

How do we know its baseless and how do we know there's no evidence?

Their side seem quite confident that they have collected plenty evidence. I'm sceptical myself but I won't rule it out prematurely.

Dohnjoe wrote: »

An incumbent is claiming systemic voter fraud by the opposition, but hasn't presented any credible basis for that whatsoever.

Indeed they haven't yet. But if they do?

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Yes, but not before he potentially does damage to the US democratic systems and process via his core supporters who blindly believe every claim he makes regardless of the truth.

The Courts will rule and it will be over Sir. And if it has to be the Supreme Court then so be it.

Dohnjoe wrote: »

And he made similar baseless claims that the elections were rigged prior to and during the 2016 election, repeatedly. He also engaged and failed in legal action, even after winning. That's not to mention a very long history of false claims ranging from birther conspiracies to drinking clorax to these latest shenanigans.

There is no doubt the audits, recounts and court decisions will all flow against him, the only worry is how much damage this can do when you consider his fanatical support base and how unnecessary all this glorified tantrum is.

I would say the anti Trumpers are equally fanatical if not moreso. The businesses of DC boarded up their premises on election day not out of fear of a MAGA backlash in the event of a Biden win but an ANTIFA/BLM/whatever you're having yourself backlash if Trump won.

This mail-in ballot phenomenon is unprecedented. The amount of votes that went in by post never happened anywhere near this scale before so the potential for fraud is significant. I am willing to wait a short time to see how this plays out in the courts. Hillary told Joe not to concede under any circumstances. Would he have done so? I don't know.

The real conspiracy here is the crossover between the demographic in Ireland who are insomniac, and seemingly also, fanatically enthusiastic Trump supporters (given the trends in activity on this thread). Either that or something else.

It's the same all over the world these days, democracy is a sham propped up by capitalism and with the slight transparency afforded by some areas of the Internet (and vastly censored or altered facts in most segments of it) people are up in arms about everything, rightly or, in this case, wrongfully.

King Mob wrote: »

Sorry that's a pretty blatant dodge. Please answer the question directly.

Do you believe that it is plausible that ALL media outlets are engaging in a conspiracy to commit election fraud?

A conspiracy to commit election fraud? No, of course not.

But a biased commentary? On the evidence of the last four years I don't see why they'd suddenly stop now.

That's why I wouldn't put all my eggs in that particular basket.