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2019 AO Competition announced

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    #422
    pluggedout
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭pluggedout


    garrincha62 wrote: »
    Anyone know what the story with the latest panel? Will they go through it before pulling from the 2020 comp?

    The latest panel will be active until a new one is formed from the 2020 competition. So my guess is unless you are at the very top of the panel you won't get placed...Makes one wonder why they called Batch 3 at all.


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    #423
    Minifox
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Minifox


    pluggedout wrote: »
    The latest panel will be active until a new one is formed from the 2020 competition. So my guess is unless you are at the very top of the panel you won't get placed...Makes one wonder why they called Batch 3 at all.

    How do you know this? I mean, did someone from PAS tell you this?


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    #424
    pluggedout
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭pluggedout


    Minifox wrote: »
    How do you know this? I mean, did someone from PAS tell you this?

    Yes, PAS said that panel only active until one formed from 2020 comp...


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    #425
    theboycaoimhs 83
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭theboycaoimhs 83


    pluggedout wrote: »
    Yes, PAS said that panel only active until one formed from 2020 comp...

    That doesn't sound right. I had thought the panel lasted for much longer than that.


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    #426
    pluggedout
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭pluggedout


    theboycaoimhs 83 wrote: »
    That doesn't sound right. I had thought the panel lasted for much longer than that.

    That's what they said. It's very disappointing.


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    #427
    AngryLips
    Registered Users Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭AngryLips


    Does anyone know, if you're successful in the process and they call you to fill a vacancy, do they wait for you to serve your notice or are you given a far enough in the future and you're expected to meet that date regardless of any commitments elsewhere?


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    #428
    Minifox
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Minifox


    You are allowed to negotiate a finish date with your current employer, within reason, as far as I know.
    Does anyone know the Order of Merit that are currently at with Batch 3? I asked PAS on Friday but I'm still waiting for an answer.


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    #429
    MrsBean
    Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭MrsBean


    The ball is in your court (and also with your local HR if you are a serving civil servant) regarding a start date/release date, within reason. They would expect 3-4 weeks notice period in many places. If you were looking to delay it by a couple of months that might be a different story but worth discussing with pas to get a definitive answer.


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    #430
    rostalof
    Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭rostalof


    theboycaoimhs 83 wrote: »
    That doesn't sound right. I had thought the panel lasted for much longer than that.

    For the last number of years there's been a new AO competition every September/October. It makes sense that the panel from the previous competition is either exhausted or finished before the new panel is in place.


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    #431
    Minifox
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Minifox


    rostalof wrote: »
    For the last number of years there's been a new AO competition every September/October. It makes sense that the panel from the previous competition is either exhausted or finished before the new panel is in place.

    I really hope you're right.
    I can't think of much else at the moment. I thought once I had my OOM it was in the bag, but now I'm not at all sure anymore.


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    #432
    rostalof
    Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭rostalof


    Minifox wrote: »
    I really hope you're right.
    I can't think of much else at the moment. I thought once I had my OOM it was in the bag, but now I'm not at all sure anymore.

    I don't know if you misunderstood what I meant in my previous post. When the panel for the 2020 competition is formed, the 2019 panel is finished.

    From the embedded word document in the 'General Information' section of the AO 2020 Information Booklet,

    Appointments from panels
    At the end of the selection process a panel(s) of qualified candidates is formed from which vacancies may be filled. This panel may remain in place for up to twelve months. A panel is a list of qualified candidates ranked in order of merit from Stage 3 of the selection process. Should a vacancy arise and their place be reached, candidates undergo the final stage of the selection process. Prior to recommending any candidate for appointment to this position PAS or the employing organisation will make all such enquiries that are deemed necessary e.g. employer references, to determine the suitability of that candidate. Until all stages of the selection process have been fully completed a final determination cannot be made nor can it be deemed or inferred that such a determination has been made.

    Qualification and placement on a panel is not a guarantee of appointment to a position. Once an offer of appointment has been accepted a candidate may no longer remain on the panel.


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    #433
    Minifox
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Minifox


    Yes, I had misunderstood.
    But as someone said before, I can't see why they made a Batch 3 from 2019 weeks before a 2020 Batch will open.


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    #434
    rostalof
    Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭rostalof


    Minifox wrote: »
    Yes, I had misunderstood.
    But as someone said before, I can't see why they made a Batch 3 from 2019 weeks before a 2020 Batch will open.

    I'd guess you have a few months left yet. The tests for the 2020 competition were only run recently and the interviews haven't even started yet.


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    #435
    MrsBean
    Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭MrsBean


    Because they have to have a panel ready to draw staff from should vacancies arise.

    You have a few weeks yet before they form the 2020 panel, they haven't even gotten results out for stage 1 yet.

    Have you contacted pas to ask them how far away from your number they are?


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    #436
    Minifox
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Minifox


    rostalof wrote: »
    I'd guess you have a few months left yet. The tests for the 2020 competition were only run recently and the interviews haven't even started yet.

    Well, where there's life there's hope, but with my OOM as low as it is, there's not a lot of it.
    If anyone has been offered a place, I'd be grateful they let me know their approximate Order of Merit. PM me, if you don't want to reveal that info publicly. I'm in the forties.


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    #437
    Minifox
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Minifox


    MrsBean wrote: »
    Because they have to have a panel ready to draw staff from should vacancies arise.

    You have a few weeks yet before they form the 2020 panel, they haven't even gotten results out for stage 1 yet.

    Have you contacted pas to ask them how far away from your number they are?

    Yeah, I tried calling on Friday but you have to email now. No info yet.


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    #438
    MiggyB
    Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭MiggyB


    Did anyone get confirmation of the tests being received or an acknowledgement from PAS


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    #439
    Flopshot77
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭Flopshot77


    Minifox wrote: »
    Well, where there's life there's hope, but with my OOM as low as it is, there's not a lot of it.
    If anyone has been offered a place, I'd be grateful they let me know their approximate Order of Merit. PM me, if you don't want to reveal that info publicly. I'm in the forties.

    I'm in the forties too. I know they flew through the initial panel at start of the year so hopefully they get to us. Again they do interviews and all for the newest AO the earliest they could have a panel is maybe February


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    #440
    Minifox
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Minifox


    We live in hope.
    Just found out that they are due to begin contacting candidates from Batch 3 in the next week or so.
    I was hoping they had already started...


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    #441
    skittles159
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭skittles159


    This seems like good news in any case


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    #442
    HydroTendonMan
    Registered Users Posts: 186 ✭✭HydroTendonMan


    In the 2019 competition they invited the top 250 on the OOM after the testing stage to complete applications.

    Is this the usual figure?


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    #443
    PhoenixParker
    Registered Users Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    HydroTendonMan wrote: »
    In the 2019 competition they invited the top 250 on the OOM after the testing stage to complete applications.

    Is this the usual figure?

    Around that.
    It will depend on demand but it's very few.
    The specialised comps have a better overall shot.


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    #444
    BOHSBOHS
    Registered Users Posts: 710 ✭✭✭BOHSBOHS


    Theyve started calling folk off the panel for clearance


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    #445
    tricky@
    Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭tricky@


    BOHSBOHS wrote: »
    Theyve started calling folk off the panel for clearance

    Anyone here been notified they have been reached for clearance yet? I know there are a few of us in the forties from the panel on here so grateful if anyone higher than that might indicate if they have been called yet.


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    #446
    Minifox
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Minifox


    Emailed PAS and was told they've called to OOM 10 so far
    There's hope yet for the forty-somethings... not sure how much hope though.


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    #447
    tricky@
    Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭tricky@


    Minifox wrote: »
    Emailed PAS and was told they've called to OOM 10 so far
    There's hope yet for the forty-somethings... not sure how much hope though.

    Great, thanks for the update. Yeah not overly confident myself but haven’t completely ruled it out!


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    #448
    tricky@
    Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭tricky@


    15 called as of this week following the last round of interviews/presentations so slow but steady progress.
    Minifox wrote: »
    Emailed PAS and was told they've called to OOM 10 so far
    There's hope yet for the forty-somethings... not sure how much hope though.


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    #449
    Baldr
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭Baldr


    I've requested a review of my presentation results, but not sure if I will be competitively placed if my request is successful. Can anyone hazard a guess for a ballpark mark for OOM 1-30?


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    #450
    pluggedout
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭pluggedout


    They are up to 25 called as of today.


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    #451
    Minifox
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Minifox


    Still on 25 today.
    They've also started calling people to interview and presentation from 2020 competition.
    Not looking good for the forty-somethings, I fear.
    Maybe no X-Mas pud for Tiny Tim...


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