Terminator: Dark Fate Spoilers from post 983

nix · 17-08-2018 6:33pm

Slydice wrote: »

Ok, let's check with the words of the rest of your post:

So then.. people can not have known and indeed have posted in the middle of our discussion.

So.. back to the test..
- as I read it, you're implying you agree that people can not have known
- but your saying that .. saying it wasn't all over the place.. so as I mention "people can not have known".. is wrong?

Yeah i said most, not all, you're obviously not in the most category.

To summarise, i was saying it was everywhere, the trailer and any promotional plugins/interviews that were done in relation to the movie, revealed that Arnie was a good guy.

And you're implying the whole time that this info was scarce, as if most people wouldnt have seen this stuff, as if nobody back then had a TV :eek:

Slydice wrote: »

When I did eventually get "The Channels", I don't remember NBC being one of them.

I saw many different versions of "The Channels" around the country, I don't remember NBC being there.

Used to be either:
- just the english bunch.. BBCs and UTV, C4
- the english bunch and some Sky but not NBC

MTV UK didn't kick off till 1997:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV_(UK_and_Ireland)

We defo had NBC, it was mostly NEWS shows on it throughout the day, but it had the interesting talks shows on it in the evenings (not that i watched many of them at that age), very rarely you might see the odd good movie on it..

And eh, we've had MTV well before 1997, i remember watching alot of Beavis and Butthead on it at a young age..

nix · 17-08-2018 6:36pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

Was it normal for cinemas back then to let 8 year olds in to see 18 rated films? Because I remembered being turned away from Barb Wire in my early teens and that was only rated 15s.

Terminator 2 was 15's, i got in to see it with my father and two brothers, in a cinema in wexford, think it was the one in Gorey... In 1991... Yeah nobody cared

Now if it was 18's and it was a movie littered with tits and gore, I'm sure there would have been an exchange of words :pac:

HandsomeBob · 17-08-2018 6:38pm

Promotional releases do nothing for me so I didn't give a crap about them releasing the first official image consisting of 3 women. It's great to have Hamilton back and Davis is an actress with so much potential so I'm just happy they're in the film.

Don't know where it leaves John Connor and Arnie but I'm fine with sitting back and letting things unfold.

Slydice · 17-08-2018 6:48pm

There's clear wire crossing here..

Slydice wrote: »

as I read it ...
- but your saying that

nix wrote: »

i was saying ...
And you're implying

Don't wanna speak for you but it looks to me we've had different experiences.
- Your memory and background gave you yours. Others had similar.
- Mine gave me mine. Others had similar.

Any agreement at all?

Slydice · 17-08-2018 6:51pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

Was it normal for cinemas back then to let 8 year olds in to see 18 rated films? Because I remembered being turned away from Barb Wire in my early teens and that was only rated 15s.

I remember definitely being worried I'd get in trouble for getting into Robocop 2!

nix · 17-08-2018 7:08pm

Slydice wrote: »

There's clear wire crossing here..

Don't wanna speak for you but it looks to me we've had different experiences.
- Your memory and background gave you yours. Most had similar.
- Mine gave me mine. some had similar.

Any agreement at all?

Fixed and you bet!

But seriously, I accept and am envious you saw the movie spoiler free. But i stand by my belief that most people wouldnt have had the same experience as you with the amount of exposure the movie got on TV/Radio/Magazines, it was everywhere..Heck i havent even touched off word of mouth :pac:

nix · 17-08-2018 7:11pm

Slydice wrote: »

I remember definitely being worried I'd get in trouble for getting into Robocop 2!

Hah yeah i did feel lucky getting into T2 at the time, and that was only 15's. Fairly certain there was a lot of standing in front of or around me so not many people would see me until we got to our seats.

I was unsuccessful getting into Demolition man in the square with my bro a few years later. Lobby boy wasnt having any of it.... Bastard :mad:

Slydice · 17-08-2018 7:12pm

nix wrote: »

Fixed and you bet!

But seriously, I accept and am envious you saw the movie spoiler free. But i stand by my belief that most people wouldnt have had the same experience as you with the amount of exposure the movie got on TV/Radio/Magazines, it was everywhere..Heck i havent even touched off word of mouth :pac:

Phew! Take it away! TF that's over!

Slydice · 17-08-2018 7:14pm

nix wrote: »

Fairly certain there was a lot of standing in front of or around me so not many people would see me until we got to our seats.

This! I remember this!

EVERYONE DID THIS!

Johnmb · 17-08-2018 10:59pm

Slydice wrote: »

When I did eventually get "The Channels", I don't remember NBC being one of them.

I saw many different versions of "The Channels" around the country, I don't remember NBC being there.

Used to be either:
- just the english bunch.. BBCs and UTV, C4
- the english bunch and some Sky but not NBC

MTV UK didn't kick off till 1997:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV_(UK_and_Ireland)

It was called CNBC, but had mostly NBC talk shows in the evenings, not quite the same as the current CNBC variant.

MTV was in Ireland long before 1997. We had it almost from the start of MTV Europe broadcasting, although for the first few years it was a night time channel, coming on after one of the others finished. It was a full time channel by the early 90s at least, as it was there all through my college years.

nix · 18-08-2018 3:49am

Johnmb wrote: »

MTV was in Ireland long before 1997. We had it almost from the start of MTV Europe broadcasting, although for the first few years it was a night time channel, coming on after one of the others finished. It was a full time channel by the early 90s at least, as it was there all through my college years.

Pretty sure it was on around the clock, it just played music videos throughout the day, no presenters or people talking really. MTV just playing music, crazy right? :P

Hurrache · 20-08-2018 12:37pm

nix wrote: »

Terminator 2 was 15's, i got in to see it with my father and two brothers, in a cinema in wexford, think it was the one in Gorey... In 1991... Yeah nobody cared

I was 15 at the time of release, but even then looked very young so myself and a mate were ****ting ourselves we'd be refused entry on a sunny Saturday afternoon. It was amazing at the time, first time going to see a movie without parents and what a movie to go see.

Thargor · 20-08-2018 9:28pm

Did none of you just buy the ticket for whatever kiddie film was on and then walk into whatever screen you wanted? I thought everybody did that...

nix · 20-08-2018 10:09pm

Thargor wrote: »

Did none of you just buy the ticket for whatever kiddie film was on and then walk into whatever screen you wanted? I thought everybody did that...

That old chest nut, i done that in the later years when just with friends, but back in the day they always had people waiting at the doors to check and show people to their seats if needed, also a lot of cinemas back then were pretty small, and didnt have many screens.

Hurrache · 21-08-2018 10:27am

Thargor wrote: »

Did none of you just buy the ticket for whatever kiddie film was on and then walk into whatever screen you wanted? I thought everybody did that...

Couldn't do that back then, cinemas actually employed more than once person once you got past the ticket office and tickets were checked, and were shown to the seat, at the screen entrance.

edit: yeah, Nix just said that.

Sal Butamol · 21-08-2018 2:12pm

Watched the original last night. Still class.

Amazing how low the bar had fallen since.

mloc123 · 24-08-2018 1:21pm

Slydice wrote: »

I doubt loads of Irish people watched David Letterman back in the late 80s, 1990 and 1991.

Letterman was on Sky back then if I recall, used to be on around 11pm or so each night

Defunkd · 04-09-2018 11:31pm

Can't say i'm looking forward to this installment, or any other one unless it is about the 'future war'.
Cameron being EP does nothing for me: he gave Genisys a glowing review and it was a poor film for the most part.

The poster of the2 women and cyborg/whatever has been causing people to lose their mind and i think thy're right to be sceptical. Cameron has said he likes having female heroes/strong female leads and he can write and direct accordingly but given the current climate in Hollywood, i think it could be pandering.

pixelburp · 05-09-2018 2:25pm

It's a single photo and the only piece of media officially released for this film: any scepticism is ludicrously disportioncate against the actual information available. People losing their minds only confirms what ironically 'triggered' snowflakes internet folks are, those who'd otherwise rush to decry anything 'SJW' that might offend delicate sensibilities.

Defunkd · 05-09-2018 10:12pm

pixelburp wrote: »

It's a single photo and the only piece of media officially released for this film: any scepticism is ludicrously disportioncate against the actual information available. People losing their minds only confirms what ironically 'triggered' snowflakes internet folks are, those who'd otherwise rush to decry anything 'SJW' that might offend delicate sensibilities.

What are you on about? The studio purposefully released the pic as a promo/first taste/set a tone and because people don't like the look of it, they're triggered? People can form opinons on topics based on the information available.
I'd expect such a promo for a charlie's angels film but a terminator film?! Gtfo.

pixelburp · 05-09-2018 11:36pm

Defunkd wrote: »

What are you on about? The studio purposefully released the pic as a promo/first taste/set a tone and because people don't like the look of it, they're triggered? People can form opinons on topics based on the information available.
I'd expect such a promo for a charlie's angels film but a terminator film?! Gtfo.

It's one photo. how can anyone possibly tell the tone from a single promo shot? Cmon. My reply isn't necessarily aimed at you, but the kneejerk outrage is out there and pretty ludicrous and tedious; so the cast are female, so it's clearly jumping on a trend, bif whoop. Let's wait for trailer, it's not like Terminator is a barn storming franchise being undermined by trends.

Defunkd · 08-09-2018 10:14am

pixelburp wrote: »

It's one photo. how can anyone possibly tell the tone from a single promo shot? Cmon. My reply isn't necessarily aimed at you, but the kneejerk outrage is out there and pretty ludicrous and tedious; so the cast are female, so it's clearly jumping on a trend, bif whoop. Let's wait for trailer, it's not like Terminator is a barn storming franchise being undermined by trends.

Okay, if you didn't know what the terminator franchise was about, what kind of film would you think this would be based on the promo? Who would it be aimed at?

That promo isj't a random photo - it was deliberated over and okayed. They are setting the tone already.

Hande hoche! · 08-09-2018 12:08pm

Looking at it again, seems like a promo shot for a Syfy show.

py2006 · 27-09-2018 3:34am

https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/1045061027451170817?s=20

BrookieD · 27-09-2018 9:31am

py2006 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/1045061027451170817?s=20

If that pic of the older stars is anything to go by the Arnold has a little metal peeking through his injuries...... interesting

Inviere · 27-09-2018 9:33am

BrookieD wrote: »

If that pic of the older stars is anything to go by the Arnold has a little metal peeking through his injuries...... interesting

They look like flesh wounds, not bad enough to expose metal. Similar shots in Genisys. Plus, it'd be all done in post anyway no?

BrookieD · 27-09-2018 9:37am

Inviere wrote: »

They look like flesh wounds, not bad enough to expose metal. Similar shots in Genisys. Plus, it'd be all done in post anyway no?

I looked at the larger image on twitter, defo some metal exposed on the brow

py2006 · 27-09-2018 2:15pm

That Genisys pic is just awful. Almost a comical pistake of T2

py2006 · 27-01-2019 12:31pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A2NvaN1BoU

pixelburp · 10-02-2019 5:33pm

In an interview with Cameron, he apparently revealed that the (working) title is to be Terminator: Dark Fate.

Church on Tuesday · 10-02-2019 6:26pm

pixelburp wrote: »

In an interview with Cameron, he apparently revealed that the (working) title is to be Terminator: Dark Fate.

And that it will be female centric sadly.

HandsomeBob · 10-02-2019 6:43pm

Sounds like a bad Twilight sequel tag on.

Agent Coulson · 20-03-2019 12:44pm

Official title..

Terminator: Dark Fate

November 1st release date.

Church on Tuesday · 20-03-2019 1:34pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Official title..

Terminator: Dark Fate

November 1st release date.

They missed a trick with 'Dark F8te' - Genisys shtyle.

Lithium93_ · 22-03-2019 1:46am

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Official title..

Terminator: Dark Fate

November 1st release date.

Also this from James Cameron.

This is a continuation of the story from TERMINATOR 1 and TERMINATOR 2. And we’re pretending the other films were a bad dream. Or an alternate timeline, which is permissible in our multiverse. This was really driven more by Tim than anybody, surprisingly, because I came in pretty agnostic about where we took it. The only thing I insisted on was that we somehow revamp it and reinvent it for the 21st century. #T2

pixelburp · 22-03-2019 9:54am

Some bloody cheek of Cameron to snark about the other films as a 'bad dream', considering he couldn't praise (for instance) Genisys highly enough - he was part of that films own promotional vids. Man's recommendations are obviously easily bought.

Wanderer78 · 22-03-2019 10:43am

I fear another butcher job

Tony EH · 22-03-2019 10:52am

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Also this from James Cameron.

This is a continuation of the story from TERMINATOR 1 and TERMINATOR 2. And we’re pretending the other films were a bad dream. Or an alternate timeline, which is permissible in our multiverse. This was really driven more by Tim than anybody, surprisingly, because I came in pretty agnostic about where we took it. The only thing I insisted on was that we somehow revamp it and reinvent it for the 21st century. #T2

:rolleyes:

So sick of these films.

Circuital · 22-03-2019 10:57am

I can't wait for it. I remain optimistic. For some reason.

RayCun · 22-03-2019 11:47am

One good film 35 years ago, a series of sequels that got steadily worse, and people are still enthusiastic about a new one?

Mr E · 22-03-2019 11:48am

Yup.

Circuital · 22-03-2019 12:16pm

RayCun wrote: »

One good film 35 years ago, a series of sequels that got steadily worse, and people are still enthusiastic about a new one?

One very good film followed by one of the best sequels of all time 28 years ago.

Yes.

If you don't rate T2 then maybe it's just not for you.

RayCun · 22-03-2019 12:18pm

http://www.michaelfuchs.org/re/index.php?story=2010-03-01

SoundsRight · 22-03-2019 12:23pm

Circuital wrote: »

One very good film followed by one of the best sequels of all time 28 years ago.

Yes.

If you don't rate T2 then maybe it's just not for you.

I used to rate T2 as better than T1, but on reflection T1 is the superior film. There's a brutality to it that is missing from the bigger budget sequels.

Circuital · 22-03-2019 12:27pm

SoundsRight wrote: »

I used to rate T2 as better than T1, but on reflection T1 is the superior film. There's a brutality to it that is missing from the bigger budget sequels.

I agree with that point. Overall though I think T2 is superior. I like how the story developed, the T-1000, the characters - particularly the direction they went with Sarah Connor, the f/x, pacing, everything. It's a masterpiece.

Wheeliebin30 · 22-03-2019 12:32pm

Circuital wrote: »

I agree with that point. Overall though I think T2 is superior. I like how the story developed, the T-1000, the characters - particularly the direction they went with Sarah Connor, the f/x, pacing, everything. It's a masterpiece.

Linda Hamilton’s performance in T2 was incredible.

To go from her character in T1 and change so much in T2 was brilliant

Wasn’t noticed as much because T2 had so many good things going on.

Dades · 22-03-2019 12:56pm

SoundsRight wrote: »

There's a brutality to it that is missing from the bigger budget sequels.

The T-1000 made up for that by upping the Terminator with guile and new tech.

It was like going from early, slow zombies to the zombies from 28 Days Later.

Tony EH · 22-03-2019 1:13pm

Circuital wrote: »

One very good film followed by one of the best sequels of all time 28 years ago.

Yes.

If you don't rate T2 then maybe it's just not for you.

T2 is a stupid movie. Dumb and loud.

Not that 'The Terminator' is going to win any Mensa positions any time soon. But, it's a far superior film.

But, while T2 is irritating, it's watchable. The sequels just get progressively worse and worse though. We're at life support now. Time to put this nonsense out of its misery.

Tony EH · 22-03-2019 1:15pm

Dades wrote: »

It was like going from early, slow zombies to the zombies from 28 Days Later.

Which was probably the worst thing ever to happen to zombie movies.

Circuital · 22-03-2019 1:19pm

Tony EH wrote: »

T2 is a stupid movie. Dumb and loud.

Just no.

It's done everything a sequel should - developed the story, the universe, the characters, introduced new ones central to the story, drawn a conclusion (to a point). But it's an action sci-fi movie so it conveys and builds all this around brilliant action scenes and cutting edge effects for its time.

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