Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

BandMember · 29-07-2020 2:57pm

westsidestory wrote: »

Think we dodged a bullet when he was not given the Mayo gig, seemed bit naive defensively to put it mildly with the sheep purloiners. One thing talking the talk on the Sunday Game and the 'hot zones', a different beast on the sideline calling the shots.

Couldn't agree more! Keep him as far away as possible!! Having said that, the likelihood is pretty much zero as he'll want that clown of a brother in law with him and nobody will ever accept that. Just like last time.

seligehgit · 29-07-2020 3:32pm

BandMember wrote: »

Couldn't agree more! Keep him as far away as possible!! Having said that, the likelihood is pretty much zero as he'll want that clown of a brother in law with him and nobody will ever accept that. Just like last time.

I'd have reservations about appointing Kevin McStay but as charlie14 quite rightly mentioned he was'nt afraid to leave the Sunday Game studio and dip his head into the inter county scene.

Many have said he was handed an All Ireland with St. Brigid's with all the ground work the previous incumbent put in.Re Roscommon I am not so the talent/defensive material was there albeit they were poor defensively.You can't work miracles.

Perhaps I am giving him an overgenerous pass re same.

I firmly believe he treated very shabbily by the county board pre the joint managers appointment.

I have listened to him on podcasts as he is Mayo to his very core and like his brother in law was a wonderful servant of the green and red.

It is pretty unnecessary for you to label as fine a servant of the green and red as Liam Mc Hale a clown.

One can have issues with his ability on the line,allegedly archaic training methods.He may have upset players with some comments but...

flasher0030 · 30-07-2020 1:44pm

seligehgit wrote: »

I'd have reservations about appointing Kevin McStay but as charlie14 quite rightly mentioned he was'nt afraid to leave the Sunday Game studio and dip his head into the inter county scene.

Many have said he was handed an All Ireland with St. Brigid's with all the ground work the previous incumbent put in.Re Roscommon I am not so the talent/defensive material was there albeit they were poor defensively.You can't work miracles.

Perhaps I am giving him an overgenerous pass re same.

I firmly believe he treated very shabbily by the county board pre the joint managers appointment.

I have listened to him on podcasts as he is Mayo to his very core and like his brother in law was a wonderful servant of the green and red.

It is pretty unnecessary for you to label as fine a servant of the green and red as Liam Mc Hale a clown.

One can have issues with his ability on the line,allegedly archaic training methods.He may have upset players with some comments but...

Agreed about Liam McHale. He has been a very good contributor to Mayo footballer - as a player, and at least had the courage to go into management. Insulting them on a faceless forum is cowardly. And no basis for it.

Anyway,I think McStay would be an effective manager. Seems to have a cool head. And I think the experience that he has picked up on the Sunday Game has provided him with great insights in terms of tactics,team structures. We only see the final product of the SUnday Game - an hour or an hour and a half. But the hours that those guys spend in analysing game after game will surely have educated him on tactics. And liaising with the likes of Spillane,Brolly, Tomas O'SHea etc.

wirelessdude01 · 30-07-2020 1:49pm

flasher0030 wrote: »

Agreed about Liam McHale. He has been a very good contributor to Mayo footballer - as a player, and at least had the courage to go into management. Insulting them on a faceless forum is cowardly. And no basis for it.

Anyway,I think McStay would be an effective manager. Seems to have a cool head. And I think the experience that he has picked up on the Sunday Game has provided him with great insights in terms of tactics,team structures. We only see the final product of the SUnday Game - an hour or an hour and a half. But the hours that those guys spend in analysing game after game will surely have educated him on tactics. And liaising with the likes of Spillane,Brolly, Tomas O'SHea etc.

An effective manager? He was so naive with The Roadies. Seemed to be trying to ape Horans early spell with Mayo with regards to whatever you score, we'll score more without any defensive strategy at all.

muddle84 · 30-07-2020 3:24pm

In fairness if there wasn't some substance to what McStay had as a manager they wouldn't have gotten to a club all ireland let alone win it regardless of what the previous manager had done. But I don't think he did a great job with Roscomon, I think he was too straight and the team didn't have the physicality that they have now.

With regards to McHale, its not personal but i just don't like him. I seen him talking about his love for Mayo football in the CLG Acla's clubhouse for the Off the Ball roadshow and how confident he was that we would win and all the rest of it. That was the week before the Dublin Semi Final last year. Coincidently he was sitting a few rows below me in the hogan at the match and he walked right past me 15 minutes before the game finished on his way out. I hate to see anyone leave a match early whether we're winning or losing you should always stick with the team to the end. It just added to my dislike of him, but i hate to see anyone doing that. Don't get me wrong i loved him as a player and he is without doubt in my top ten that ever played for Mayo.

TCDStudent1 · 30-07-2020 4:41pm

muddle84 wrote: »

In fairness if there wasn't some substance to what McStay had as a manager they wouldn't have gotten to a club all ireland let alone win it regardless of what the previous manager had done. But I don't think he did a great job with Roscomon, I think he was too straight and the team didn't have the physicality that they have now.

With regards to McHale, its not personal but i just don't like him. I seen him talking about his love for Mayo football in the CLG Acla's clubhouse for the Off the Ball roadshow and how confident he was that we would win and all the rest of it. That was the week before the Dublin Semi Final last year. Coincidently he was sitting a few rows below me in the hogan at the match and he walked right past me 15 minutes before the game finished on his way out. I hate to see anyone leave a match early whether we're winning or losing you should always stick with the team to the end. It just added to my dislike of him, but i hate to see anyone doing that. Don't get me wrong i loved him as a player and he is without doubt in my top ten that ever played for Mayo.

McHale is an interesting guy. He always seem to have had an 'uneasy' relationship with Mayo supporters who never seemed to really like him. I remember reading a good piece about it ages ago - was it in the "House of Pain" book? It explored why Mayo supporters didn't take to him.

I can never understand people leaving early either. Personally, I prefer to stay 5 - 10 minutes after the end to let the crowd disperse and can leave in some comfort then.

Bunny Colvin · 30-07-2020 5:23pm

muddle84 wrote: »

In fairness if there wasn't some substance to what McStay had as a manager they wouldn't have gotten to a club all ireland let alone win it regardless of what the previous manager had done. But I don't think he did a great job with Roscomon, I think he was too straight and the team didn't have the physicality that they have now.

With regards to McHale, its not personal but i just don't like him. I seen him talking about his love for Mayo football in the CLG Acla's clubhouse for the Off the Ball roadshow and how confident he was that we would win and all the rest of it. That was the week before the Dublin Semi Final last year. Coincidently he was sitting a few rows below me in the hogan at the match and he walked right past me 15 minutes before the game finished on his way out. I hate to see anyone leave a match early whether we're winning or losing you should always stick with the team to the end. It just added to my dislike of him, but i hate to see anyone doing that. Don't get me wrong i loved him as a player and he is without doubt in my top ten that ever played for Mayo.

I left that same game with about 15 minutes to go as well. The game was done, there was a huge queue for the commuter train, staying any longer in Croke Park would have cost me at least an hour. I was up late from working a 24hr shift the night before and wanted to get the drive home done as quick as possible. Different story if the game was tight but everyone's circumstances are different, who know's what Liam's were. It seems a bit petty to hold it against him.

seligehgit · 30-07-2020 5:41pm

muddle84 wrote: »

In fairness if there wasn't some substance to what McStay had as a manager they wouldn't have gotten to a club all ireland let alone win it regardless of what the previous manager had done. But I don't think he did a great job with Roscomon, I think he was too straight and the team didn't have the physicality that they have now.

With regards to McHale, its not personal but i just don't like him. I seen him talking about his love for Mayo football in the CLG Acla's clubhouse for the Off the Ball roadshow and how confident he was that we would win and all the rest of it. That was the week before the Dublin Semi Final last year. Coincidently he was sitting a few rows below me in the hogan at the match and he walked right past me 15 minutes before the game finished on his way out. I hate to see anyone leave a match early whether we're winning or losing you should always stick with the team to the end. It just added to my dislike of him, but i hate to see anyone doing that. Don't get me wrong i loved him as a player and he is without doubt in my top ten that ever played for Mayo.

TBF that OTB roadshow was absolutely cringeworthy in it's pro Mayo bias when one considered how big of underdogs we were on the following Saturday.

I was embarrassed.Poor auld Damian Comer had to deliver the reality check that it was improbable Mayo would triumph.

Loved the PJ Loftus story.:D

https://twitter.com/offtheball/status/1159852287394758657?s=19

Agreed Liam McHale has appeared to have an uneasy relationship with the Mayo support.

I believe it was in part due to his relaxed personality and later introduction into the fold after all his basketball success.

I must read back House of Pain.

BandMember · 30-07-2020 8:54pm

flasher0030 wrote: »

Agreed about Liam McHale. He has been a very good contributor to Mayo footballer - as a player, and at least had the courage to go into management. Insulting them on a faceless forum is cowardly. And no basis for it.

Anyway,I think McStay would be an effective manager. Seems to have a cool head. And I think the experience that he has picked up on the Sunday Game has provided him with great insights in terms of tactics,team structures. We only see the final product of the SUnday Game - an hour or an hour and a half. But the hours that those guys spend in analysing game after game will surely have educated him on tactics. And liaising with the likes of Spillane,Brolly, Tomas O'SHea etc.

Did you not see any of his time in charge of Roscommon or the car crash ending in the Super 8's???

naughto · 30-07-2020 9:04pm

I was hoping macstsy would be kept on with the rossies he was doing a great job.......

PARlance · 31-07-2020 7:02pm

flasher0030 wrote: »

Agreed about Liam McHale. He has been a very good contributor to Mayo footballer - as a player, and at least had the courage to go into management. Insulting them on a faceless forum is cowardly. And no basis for it.

Anyway,I think McStay would be an effective manager. Seems to have a cool head. And I think the experience that he has picked up on the Sunday Game has provided him with great insights in terms of tactics,team structures. We only see the final product of the SUnday Game - an hour or an hour and a half. But the hours that those guys spend in analysing game after game will surely have educated him on tactics. And liaising with the likes of Spillane,Brolly, Tomas O'SHea etc.

Analysing a game after the fact requires some form of understanding but I don't know how anyone would use it as a selling point for an intercounty manager.

I think he's a very "lite" manager. Comes in, creates a buzz and confidence in players but ultimately there doesn't seem to be much substance or tactical plan behind it. I can see how he could bring immediate success to a good bunch but wouldn't expect anything long term.

As for the cool head, nearly sure he lost the head a fair bit when the purple patch with the Rossies had passed.

TCDStudent1 · 31-07-2020 9:29pm

PARlance wrote: »

Analysing a game after the fact requires some form of understanding but I don't know how anyone would use it as a selling point for an intercounty manager.

I think he's a very "lite" manager. Comes in, creates a buzz and confidence in players but ultimately there doesn't seem to be much substance or tactical plan behind it. I can see how he could bring immediate success to a good bunch but wouldn't expect anything long term.

As for the cool head, nearly sure he lost the head a fair bit when the purple patch with the Rossies had passed.

You might be referring to this:

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/gaa/11444892/kevin-mcstay-incident

Brilliant throw in fairness. Although I remember Colm Parkinson making the point that he never meant to hit the linesman as it would be impossible to pinpoint the throw as well as he did, which is probably true!

TCDStudent1 · 31-07-2020 9:32pm

Anywhere I can see the Mayo club football fixtures for this weekend?

wirelessdude01 · 31-07-2020 9:47pm

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Anywhere I can see the Mayo club football fixtures for this weekend?

The obvious place mayogaa.com

RedDevil55 · 31-07-2020 9:56pm

Attached.

Blackjack · 31-07-2020 11:50pm

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Anywhere I can see the Mayo club football fixtures for this weekend?

Some will be streamed on Facebook pages - I’m fairly sure Balla‘S game and Belmullet V Ballaghadereen will be streamed if you want to watch, and MayoGaaTV have the Tubber v Aghamore game as well as Charlestown v Mitchells Tomorrow.
They are showing Breaffy v Westport on Sunday.

Cartman78 · 01-08-2020 3:26pm

Lads...sorry in advance if I'm missing something obvious but where can you buy tickets for club games this weekend?

Hoping to pop into the Balla game this evening....have made contact with Balla and Mayo on Twitter but no reply yet..

wirelessdude01 · 01-08-2020 3:29pm

Cartman78 wrote: »

Lads...sorry in advance if I'm missing something obvious but where can you buy tickets for club games this weekend?

Hoping to pop into the Balla game this evening....have made contact with Balla and Mayo on Twitter but no reply yet..

You can't buy tickets. Guaranteed all long distributed at this stage.

Cartman78 · 01-08-2020 3:31pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

You can't buy tickets. Guaranteed all long distributed at this stage.

Ahh ok.... that's what I half suspected alright...cheers

wirelessdude01 · 01-08-2020 3:34pm

Cartman78 wrote: »

Ahh ok.... that's what I half suspected alright...cheers

Some facility through the cairde maigh eo system as well. My dad got ticket for local club that way. Then clubs allocated the rest and then up to club to distribute.

padd b1975 · 01-08-2020 3:46pm

seligehgit wrote: »

TBF that OTB roadshow was absolutely cringeworthy in it's pro Mayo bias when one considered how big of underdogs we were on the following Saturday.

I was embarrassed.Poor auld Damian Comer had to deliver the reality check that it was improbable Mayo would triumph.

Loved the PJ Loftus story.:D

https://twitter.com/offtheball/status/1159852287394758657?s=19

Agreed Liam McHale has appeared to have an uneasy relationship with the Mayo support.

I believe it was in part due to his relaxed personality and later introduction into the fold after all his basketball success.

I must read back House of Pain.

Diana died the night before we played Offaly in the SEMI final.

He's right about staying in Maynooth the night before the final though, there was uproar amongst the players regarding the quality and comfort of the accommodation.

Coillte_Bhoy · 01-08-2020 4:33pm

seligehgit wrote: »

TBF that OTB roadshow was absolutely cringeworthy in it's pro Mayo bias when one considered how big of underdogs we were on the following Saturday.

I was embarrassed.Poor auld Damian Comer had to deliver the reality check that it was improbable Mayo would triumph.

Loved the PJ Loftus story.:D

https://twitter.com/offtheball/status/1159852287394758657?s=19

Agreed Liam McHale has appeared to have an uneasy relationship with the Mayo support.

I believe it was in part due to his relaxed personality and later introduction into the fold after all his basketball success.

I must read back House of Pain.

Never noticed this at all tbh

House of Pain is a great read btw

Coillte_Bhoy · 01-08-2020 6:09pm

Anyone else having issues with Mayogaatv? Stream has just stopped totally for me

wirelessdude01 · 01-08-2020 6:13pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Anyone else having issues with Mayogaatv? Stream has just stopped totally for me

Same here. Just assumed it was the broadband here.

Coillte_Bhoy · 01-08-2020 6:14pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Same here. Just assumed it was the broadband here.

Stoppped at 1:25:38, if i refresh it goes back to the start of the game :mad:

wirelessdude01 · 01-08-2020 6:23pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Stoppped at 1:25:38, if i refresh it goes back to the start of the game :mad:

Came back after about 4 minutes.

wirelessdude01 · 01-08-2020 7:22pm

Mayo GAA TV gone again. 3rd time today.

irishgeo · 01-08-2020 10:15pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Mayo GAA TV gone again. 3rd time today.

demand exceeding supply id say.

wirelessdude01 · 01-08-2020 10:18pm

irishgeo wrote: »

demand exceeding supply id say.

Then they need to be honest with themselves and limit the number of viewers. People are getting very pi$$ed of with it and all the dropping. Victims of their own success as it's a great service when it does work but it falls over far too frequently.

irishgeo · 01-08-2020 10:23pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Then they need to be honest with themselves and limit the number of viewers. People are getting very pi$$ed of with it and all the dropping. Victims of their own success as it's a great service when it does work but it falls over far too frequently.

invest in the technology, probably not paying for enough servers.

spakman · 02-08-2020 8:47am

irishgeo wrote: »

invest in the technology, probably not paying for enough servers.

That doesn't matter a damn when the broadband is ****e

Green&Red · 02-08-2020 4:05pm

Good win for Knockmore this afternoon. Looks like we have two lads who can score heavily now. Orme was outstanding, he’s kicked on from last year. As has Dempsey.
Claremorris were poor, ended with 13

Conor Diskin does some amount of mouthing

RedDevil55 · 02-08-2020 6:52pm

Mayo GAA TV much better for the game today. Good win for Westport even if they nearly threw it away at the death. Fionn McDonagh MOTM, he just needs a bit more composure to be a top level player. Kevin Keane surprisingly good at full forward. Shame about his injury. Aidan and Seamie were good for Breaffy.

I was half looking at the Ballina game too. They'll have a big say in the championship along with Westport and Knockmore. No offence to Tubber and Mitchels, but it would be great to have a new final this year!

wirelessdude01 · 02-08-2020 6:56pm

RedDevil55 wrote: »

Mayo GAA TV much better for the game today. Good win for Westport even if they nearly threw it away at the death. Fionn McDonagh MOTM, he just needs a bit more composure to be a top level player. Kevin Keane surprisingly good at full forward. Shame about his injury. Aidan and Seamie were good for Breaffy.

I was half looking at the Ballina game too. They'll have a big say in the championship along with Westport and Knockmore. No offence to Tubber and Mitchels, but it would be great to have a new final this year!

Kiltane weren't at the races at all. Back to intermediate for them this year.

Finishing with 13 points to a possible lack of discipline in Balloons that could impact their chances this year.

RedDevil55 · 02-08-2020 8:36pm

Not just basing it off today, I saw Ballina beat Breaffy last weekend too. They're strong right throughout the team between Clarke, Cafferkey, O'Hora, Mikey Murray, Treacy and Regan.

Agreed discipline will be key. O'Hora will have to watch himself no more than Cillian for Ballintubber.

seligehgit · 05-08-2020 11:51am

I did'nt see any of the action this weekend.Sounds like the stream was less than satisfactory for the Saturday games.

Any games you'd recommend watching back?

This weekend should be more opportune to watch the games live.

I saw Westport in action a few ago and Fionn was flying that evening.

White lighting · 05-08-2020 2:43pm

naughto wrote: »

I was hoping macstsy would be kept on with the rossies he was doing a great job.......

Won more silverware in his time over Roscommon than Mayo did during same period.

SomethingElse · 05-08-2020 6:21pm

White lighting wrote: »

Won more silverware in his time over Roscommon than Mayo did during same period.

Also managed to lose a crucial championship match by 22 points...

seligehgit · 05-08-2020 9:33pm

Live games on Mayo GAA TV this weekend.

On Saturday Westport v Charlestown Sarsfields @ 17.00.

On Sunday Claremorris v Ballina Stephenites @ 15.00.

Coillte_Bhoy · 06-08-2020 3:44pm

White lighting wrote: »

Won more silverware in his time over Roscommon than Mayo did during same period.

if its a choice of winning a Connacht titles and FBD leagues or being genuine contenders for the All Ireland i know which i'd rather

wirelessdude01 · 06-08-2020 10:54pm

Doesn't make for great reading.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40028594.html

seligehgit · 07-08-2020 11:40pm

Latest Mayo News Podcast.

Billy Joe meets Gavin Duffy

https://themayonews.podomatic.com/enclosure/2020-08-06T03_17_44-07_00.mp3

Barlett · 08-08-2020 2:14am

Well we’ve arrived at many a big Saturday for Mayo in the past decade, Tyrone in 2016, Donegal in 2015, even the Dubs last year, great times...you’d really miss it.

PressRun · 09-08-2020 7:04pm

Apparently Aidan O'Shea had a big game for Breaffy today?

wirelessdude01 · 09-08-2020 7:12pm

PressRun wrote: »

Apparently Aidan O'Shea had a big game for Breaffy today?

Watched it on TG4. Mattie Ruane was immense as well driving forward. Seamus and Conor also very influential at times.

seligehgit · 09-08-2020 7:26pm

I didn't see any of the action this weekend with other commitments,lack of a ticket and the wonderful weather making one less than inclined to stay indoors and view Mayo GAA TV.

Bragging rights for Breaffy with their win against the Mitchels.

Group 4 truly is the group of death.

What a finale.

Westport vs Castlebar Mitchels

The Stephenites certainly appear likely to be a real threat this year?

Garrymore can't qualify from group 1 and if it's head to head Belmullet are gone.

Otherwise they've only a mathematical chance of qualifying.

Ballintubber and Aghamore are more or less home and hosed in group 2.

Same applies in group 3 for the Stephenites and Knockmore.

Charlestown Sarsfields will need to get a win in Breaffy but it's likely to be 2 from the 3 of the others to come out of group 4.

seligehgit · 09-08-2020 7:36pm

Mitchels Breaffy was on TG4.

Up on the TG4 Player.

PressRun · 09-08-2020 8:02pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Watched it on TG4. Mattie Ruane was immense as well driving forward. Seamus and Conor also very influential at times.

Will try and watch it back later. Far too busy with the sunshine to sit in and watch football today!

seligehgit · 09-08-2020 9:04pm

Anybody see Padraig O Hora's interview with Mike Finnerty?Quality!:)

Ah Ref posted it up on Facebook courtesy of Mayo GAA TV.

https://www.facebook.com/184861092275370/posts/765599800868160/?d=null&vh=e

seligehgit · 09-08-2020 9:10pm

Group 3 is actually decided.

Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

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